Everyone’s a Skeptic — About Other Religions… Merry Swik, Discordians!

The following article “Everyone’s a Skeptic — About Other Religions” is written by James A. Haught, one of over 40 articles in the Disinformation anthology, Everything You Know About God Is Wrong: The Disinformation Guide to Religion, edited by Russ Kick.

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RedPillBluePillReligion is an extremely touchy topic. Church members often become angry if anyone questions their supernatural dogmas. (Bertrand Russell said this is because they subconsciously sense that their beliefs are irrational.) So I try to avoid confrontations that can hurt feelings. Nearly everyone wants to be courteous.

But sometimes disputes can’t be avoided. If you think the spirit realm is imaginary, and if honesty makes you say so, you may find yourself under attack. It has happened to many doubters: Thomas Jefferson was called a “howling atheist.” Leo Tolstoy was labeled an “impious infidel.”

Well, if you wind up in a debate, my advice is: Try to be polite. Don’t let tempers flare, if you can help it. Appeal to your accuser’s intelligence.

I’ve hatched some questions you may find useful. They’re designed to show that church members, even the most ardent worshipers, are skeptics, too — because they doubt every magical system except their own. If a churchman berates you, perhaps you could reply like this:

You’re an unbeliever, just like me. You doubt many sacred dogmas. Let me show you:

  • Millions of Hindus pray over statues of Shiva’s penis. Do you think there’s an invisible Shiva who wants his penis prayed over — or are you a skeptic?
  • Mormons say that Jesus came to America after his resurrection. Do you agree — or are you a doubter?
  • Santería worshipers sacrifice dogs, goats, chickens, etc., and toss their bodies into waterways. Do you think Santería gods want animals killed — or are you skeptical?
  • Muslim suicide bombers who blow themselves up are taught that “martyrs” instantly go to a paradise full of lovely female houri nymphs. Do you think the bombers now are in heaven with houri — or are you a doubter?
  • Unification Church members think that Jesus visited Rev. Sun Myung Moon and told him to convert all people as “Moonies.” Do you believe this sacred tenet of the Unification Church?
  • Jehovah’s Witnesses say that, any day now, exactly 144,000 of them will be physically lifted to heaven, where they will reign with Jesus Christ. Do you believe this solemn teaching of their church?
  • Aztecs skinned maidens and cut out human hearts for a feathered serpent-god. What’s your stand on invisible, feathered serpents? Aha! — just as I suspected, you don’t believe.
  • Catholics are taught that the Communion wafer and wine magically become the actual, literal body and blood of Jesus during chants and bell-ringing. Do you believe in the “real presence” — or are you a disbeliever?
  • Faith-healer Ernest Angley says he has the power, described in the Bible, to “discern spirits,” which enables him to see demons inside sick people and to see angels hovering at his revivals. Do you believe this religious assertion?
  • The Bible says that people who work on the Sabbath must be killed: “Whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death” (Exodus 31:15). Should we execute Sunday-workers — or do you doubt this scripture?
  • At a golden temple in West Virginia, saffron-robed worshipers think they’ll become one with Lord Krishna if they chant “Hare Krishna” enough. Do you agree — or do you doubt it?
  • Members of the Heaven’s Gate commune said they could “shed their containers” (i.e., their bodies) and be transported to a UFO behind the Hale-Bopp comet. Do you think they’re now on that UFO — or are you a skeptic?
  • During the witch hunts, inquisitor priests tortured thousands of women into confessing that they blighted crops, had sex with Satan, etc. — then executed them for it. Do you think the Church was right to enforce the Bible’s command, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” (Exodus 22:18) — or do you doubt this scripture?
  • Members of Spiritualist churches say they talk with the dead during their worship services. Do you think they actually communicate with spirits of deceased people?
  • Millions of American Pentecostals spout “the unknown tongue,” a spontaneous outpouring of sounds. They say it’s the Holy Ghost, the third part of the Trinity, speaking through them. Do you believe this sacred tenet of many Americans?
  • Scientologists say each human has something akin to a soul, which is a “Thetan” that came from another planet. Do you believe their doctrine — or doubt it?
  • Ancient Greeks thought a multitude of gods lived on Mt. Olympus — and some of today’s New Agers think invisible Lemurians live inside Mt. Shasta. What’s your position on mountain gods — belief or disbelief?
  • In the mountains of West Virginia, some people obey Christ’s farewell command that true believers “shall take up serpents” (Mark 16:18). They pick up rattlesnakes at church services. Do you believe this scripture, or not?
  • India’s Thugs thought the many-armed goddess Kali wanted them to strangle human sacrifices. Do you think there’s an invisible goddess who wants people strangled — or are you a disbeliever?
  • Tibet’s Buddhists say that when an old Lama dies, his spirit enters a baby boy who’s just being born somewhere. So they remain leaderless for a dozen years or more, then they find a boy who seems to have knowledge of the old Lama’s private life, and they anoint the boy as the new Lama (actually the old Lama in a new body). Do you think that dying Lamas fly into new babies, or not?
  • In China in the mid-1800s, a Christian convert said God appeared to him, told him he was Jesus’ younger brother, and commanded him to “destroy demons.” He raised an army of believers who waged the Taiping Rebellion that killed as many as 20 million people. Do you think he was Christ’s brother — or do you doubt it?

Etc., etc. You get the picture.

ReligiousSymbolsI’ll bet there isn’t a church member anywhere who doesn’t think that all those supernatural beliefs are goofy — except for the one he believes.

You see, by going through a laundry list of theologies, I think you can establish that the average Christian doubts 99 percent of the world’s holy dogmas. But the 1 percent he believes is really no different than the rest. It’s a system of miraculous claims without any reliable evidence to support it.

So, if we can show people that some sacred “truths” are nutty, maybe subconscious logic will seep through, and they’ll realize that if some magical beliefs are irrational, all may be.

This progression is rather like a scene in the poignant Peter de Vries novel The Blood of the Lamb. A gushy woman compliments a Jew because “your people” reduced the many gods of polytheism to just one god. The man dourly replies: “Which is just a step from the truth.”

Meanwhile, it’s encouraging to realize that almost everyone in the world is a skeptic — at least about other people’s religion.

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Read this article and many others in the Disinformation anthology Everything You Know About God Is Wrong: The Disinformation Guide to Religion, edited by Russ Kick, available on Amazon and in all good bookstores.

About The Author — James A. Haught, in his own words: “I’m an old newspaper editor who has spent half a century chronicling social struggles and cultural tides. Personally, I’ve waged a long crusade for rational, scientific thinking as an antidote for harmful supernaturalism. I’ve written five books and many magazine articles against religion, astrology, mysticism, psychic claims, cults, ‘New Agery,’ fundamentalism, and other magical beliefs.”

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  • radiac

    Wow, great list. Especially for the holidays.

  • Zuuah

    These things are all real, I'm not a skeptic of any of this, as this article reports, people actually do this stuff!

  • Sean

    “Jehovah’s Witnesses say that, any day now, exactly 144,000 of them will be physically lifted to heaven, where they will reign with Jesus Christ. Do you believe this solemn teaching of their church? “
    You are misinformed; something not unusual these days when people get so much of their information 3rd hand from other misinformed people. Jehovah's Witnesses teach that very few of the number mentioned mentioned at Revelation 14:1 are left on earth. The total number collected “from all nations and tribes and tongues” have been selected since the time of the apostles.Their purpose is to rule over the earth with Christ as part of the Kingdom government which he told us all to pray for. They would hardly be physically raised, as you suggest, since they could not exist physically outside our atmosphere. In answer to your final question, Yes, I do belive THIS (not the misinformation) because I have the authority of Gods word to back it up. If God cared enough for his creation to send his son to earth, he would not abandon us to confusing philosophies of men. To benefit, we must stick closely to Jesus teaching. As he said at John 4:23, “true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him”. Sadly, most people are afraid of the truth and simply prefer philosophies that suit THEM, not GOD.

    • tabby_flanks

      Sean, your little rant is as nutty or nuttier than all the nuttiness in the article. have fun.

    • NotBuyingIt

      Sean, you are clearly brainwashed. Or maybe you aren't and what you said is satyrical… In any case, if you think that by clarifying the layperson's misunderstandings of the intricacies and inner workings of the cult to which you subscribe, you will somehow sway the longstanding opinion that you and your ilk are all nuts, you are wrong. You and the rest of your “recruiters” may find poor, hopeless souls whose eyes are just begging for you to pull your wool over it, but FYI: No one who has the presence of mind to doubt the existence of God and bothers to read this article is going to buy your particular brand of crazy.

      P.s. Saying things like, “because I have the authority of Gods word to back it up” only makes you look like a complete and total fool. Do you really expect anyone to believe you had a conversation with God where both parties were contributing and he gave insignifigant, imperfect YOU his word when the rest of the God-fearing and God-doubting world is waiting for a confimation of their faith or lack thereof?

      • Tuna Ghost

        For what it's worth, EVERYONE has doubted the existence of God at one time or another, whether they admit it or not. It's a part of growing up, especially if you grew up in a rather religious enviroment.

        Also, labeling mainstream religions as “cults” saps the meaning from the word and weakens it for when you actually need to recognize something as a cult. Jehova's Witnesses do not belong to a cult. Depending on your terminology, Scientology may be a cult and the People's Temple (think Jonestown) certainly was, but you can't call modern mainstream religions “cults” without weakening and re-branding the word in a way that is not useful to anyone.

      • Sean

        Well, it never takes people long to get insulting. When people have so little knowledge of God's Word, THE BIBLE, of course they cannot judge for themselves the truthfulness of what HE says. Little me doesn't have to say anything. He did not share it with me alone but it is there for everyone to benefit from. I quoted two specific references as authority which you and others prefer to sidestep, in lieu of ridicule. History is bound to repeat itself and that is why Jesus foretold that ignorant ridicule would accompany the preaching of “the good News of the Kingdom”. Ridicule and insults hardly disprove anything. It may make you feel better, especially if others feel emboldened to join in but I have cited GOD's own written word not my own. Perhaps your time would be better spent investigating that. If you were familiar with God's Word at all you would know that they also accused Jesus of promoting a cult and upsetting the status quo. It didn't stop HIM from telling the truth though.

    • Tuna Ghost

      So Sean, where do you stand on the doctrine of other Churches? Are Catholics just crazy for thinking that the sacrament is literally the flesh and blood of Christ? Are the practioners of Santeria (which is actually ostensibly a Christian religion, it doesn't have its own “gods”) just nutty for thinking spirits want blood spilled?

      Where do you stand on the idea that EVERYONE thinks their half of a half of a percent of the population that agrees with them is right and the remaining majority is wrong? If EVERYONE thinks that, what are the odds, really, that you've got the inside dope? More importantly, are you capable of seeing the humor in the fact that so many people say “I've got the true gospel, the rest of you are wrong”? Are you able to understand why skeptics have a hard time taking anyone who insists that they've got the real story seriously?

      • Sean

        Well, first of all, I'm not sure what you mean by “the doctrine of other churches”. And since we imitate Jesus in “spirit and truth”, I would not call Catholics (I assume you mean Roman Catholics) or anyone else “crazy”. Perhaps if I was a fantical cult follower, you would expect me to. Rather, if you refer to my initial comment, I quoted John 4:23, which are Jesus words, not mine. He stated that God is looking for sincere people to worship him in truth. I guess I could spend a lot of time entertaining endless questions (ie: Santeria) that really are not very thoughtful and do not relate in the least to the references I've already posted but I guess then I'd be accused of a rant. You see, it's not my intention to attract followers after myself. Sincere people are attracted to truth and to God. I'm merely pointing out that there is truth in this world and those who value it will pursue it. It will require an unselfish determination to examine the evidence of an intelligent creator who had a purpose in his creation and has not abandoned it. It involves a willingness to pursue the “wisdom from above”, rather than to simply take the road of least resistence and compromise.
        Jehovah's Witnesses, for example, long ago abandonded the pagan celebrations of Easter and Christmas. I'm ridiculed every year for that becuase we are different as Christianst. But we are also right! We abstain, not because we're fanatical or don't enjoy a good time but it is because God forbids any participation in false worship to man-made Gods. The sun and moon did not make themselves. They have no intelligence or purpose other than what was created in them and they do not deserve our devotion. At the same time those who direct their efforts to false worship fail to see the truth. Everyone knows that the roots of these celebrations have nothing to do with Christ (they were already celebrated 100's of years before Christ and only exist because of compromise in the first place) but since they are not worshipping in spirit and truth, they simply don't care. I just don't see the point of going along with the crowd when we all know better. It's not that complicated!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1049244457 facebook-1049244457

          Sean, my friend… let's play a game: quick-zoom into Africa, let's say in Niger, to a small village far from cities, where people have never actually heard about this chap Jesus (do you think that was his actual name? do you think he spoke English? just checking). They live their lives, sometimes quite happily, sometimes sadly, just as you or me or anyone in this world. What's their status? Are they doomed just by not falling into the coverage area of the marketing machine of the “Church of Jesus” or “Jehovah's Witnesses” not covering their particular area for evangelization? So… thy are f****d I guess, and isn't that a failure of God? or Jesus? Not reaching that area? Let's quick-swap to Japan. A person finds real and intense sacrality in Zen practices, not actually worshipping anything or anyone but actually realizing the mystery of existence and consciousness, and develops an intense love towards every action in his/her life and anyone in this world, even animals and all forms of life, including you and me. Is he a poor blind man? I would put my chips to him and not you, because he actually intensifies life and love, while you tell me that you pity him. I don't believe what you say, because you love to talk and divide. “God is the only truth”, “MY book is the only truth”. Do you think that all the relativities in this universe that connected you to that collection of reinterpreted and retranslated scriptures makes you special? Oh well, but you are! You, me and everyone, but not thanks to “the bible” or Jesus or Jehovah! Do you think that “GOD” magically connected to some chaps and dictated his book in the current form (in English, for example?)??? Do you have any idea of all the relativities that come into place in a translation? I do, I'm a translator, and even in current-time languages, a perfect translation is impossible. Can you imagine the intricacies that come into play when translating ancient languages? You don't? Have you made any attempt to discover the (all too human) origin of the word JEHOVAH? It was a local warring god of some small villages in the middle East, did you know that? Did you know that “the Bible” is an arbitrary selection of some of the hundreds of gospels and holy books present after the time of Jesus? Did you know it wasn't defined as it is now accepted until the Synod of Hippo in AD 393? Why 393? So if I lived between 200-250 AD in Central America, I was left behind by God? And… if aliens come in a spaceship tomorrow without any knowledge of this Jesus chap (jeesh, maybe they don't even have NAMES as such but rather a combination of movements and alterations of the magnetic fields of their bodies!!), would all of them be doomed too? Oh my, but YOU know the key, and that is in a telepathic connection between GOD and some people in the middle East. And did you know that some chaps also in the middle East considered JEHOWAH to be an “evil and crazy god” who is actually something like the son of the True God but didn't know about his real nature, and made a mess with his creation, where we supposedly are trapped now? That actually makes more sense, if looking at the world. These chaps even say that a female-like spirit they call Sophia, and the Christ also, emanations from the true god, are trying to get humans out of the crazyness instilled by this Jehowah character. I don't know man, I don't tend to believe in what you say and find much more “religious” the Zen attitude or some other more benevolent proposals. The fanatics of the “letter” and books tend to go crazy labelling everything which eventually, thanks to other crazy people, end up killing and smashing, “for God's sake”.

          I respect the symbolic and psychological process expressed by religion, in fact I think it is really essential in human life, but fanatism to texts and local ethnical relativities, hmmmm, I don't know.

        • chaostar

          Sean, my friend… let's play a game: quick-zoom into Africa, let's say in Niger, to a small village far from cities, where people have never actually heard about this chap Jesus (do you think that was his actual name? do you think he spoke English? just checking). They live their lives, sometimes quite happily, sometimes sadly, just as you or me or anyone in this world. What's their status? Are they doomed just by not falling into the coverage area of the marketing machine of the “Church of Jesus” or “Jehovah's Witnesses” not covering their particular area for evangelization? So… thy are f****d I guess, and isn't that a failure of God? or Jesus? Not reaching that area? Let's quick-swap to Japan. A person finds real and intense sacrality in Zen practices, not actually worshipping anything or anyone but actually realizing the mystery of existence and consciousness, and develops an intense love towards every action in his/her life and anyone in this world, even animals and all forms of life, including you and me. Is he a poor blind man? I would put my chips to him and not you, because he actually intensifies life and love, while you tell me that you pity him. I don't believe what you say, because you love to talk and divide. “God is the only truth”, “MY book is the only truth”. Do you think that all the relativities in this universe that connected you to that collection of reinterpreted and retranslated scriptures makes you special? Oh well, but you are! You, me and everyone, but not thanks to “the bible” or Jesus or Jehovah! Do you think that “GOD” magically connected to some chaps and dictated his book in the current form (in English, for example?)??? Do you have any idea of all the relativities that come into place in a translation? I do, I'm a translator, and even in current-time languages, a perfect translation is impossible. Can you imagine the intricacies that come into play when translating ancient languages? You don't? Have you made any attempt to discover the (all too human) origin of the word JEHOVAH? It was a local warring god of some small villages in the middle East, did you know that? Did you know that “the Bible” is an arbitrary selection of some of the hundreds of gospels and holy books present after the time of Jesus? Did you know it wasn't defined as it is now accepted until the Synod of Hippo in AD 393? Why 393? So if I lived between 200-250 AD in Central America, I was left behind by God? And… if aliens come in a spaceship tomorrow without any knowledge of this Jesus chap (jeesh, maybe they don't even have NAMES as such but rather a combination of movements and alterations of the magnetic fields of their bodies!!), would all of them be doomed too? Oh my, but YOU know the key, and that is in a telepathic connection between GOD and some people in the middle East. And did you know that some chaps also in the middle East considered JEHOWAH to be an “evil and crazy god” who is actually something like the son of the True God but didn't know about his real nature, and made a mess with his creation, where we supposedly are trapped now? That actually makes more sense, if looking at the world. These chaps even say that a female-like spirit they call Sophia, and the Christ also, emanations from the true god, are trying to get humans out of the crazyness instilled by this Jehowah character. I don't know man, I don't tend to believe in what you say and find much more “religious” the Zen attitude or some other more benevolent proposals. The fanatics of the “letter” and books tend to go crazy labelling everything which eventually, thanks to other crazy people, end up killing and smashing, “for God's sake”.

          I respect the symbolic and psychological process expressed by religion, in fact I think it is really essential in human life, but fanatism to texts and local ethnical relativities, hmmmm, I don't know.

          • Sean

            “in Niger, to a small village far from cities, where people have never actually heard about this chap Jesus”

            FYI – Jehovah's Witnesses have increased by 6% during the last year in Niger, due to their sincere, self-sacrificing efforts. Regarding the languages they speak, the list of official Niger language includes French, Arabic, Hausa, Fulfulde, Gourmanchema, Manga Kanuri, Tamajaq and Zarma. But the total count of recognized languages in Niger is 21. Different sections of people in different regions of Niger speak in their own respective languages. I hope that answers your question but I think you could have done your own research, if you were sincere.

            “Jesus (do you think that was his actual name? do you think he spoke English?”

            Yes, Jesus was his name (in English) but why do you ask? He was God's son; that is the important thing. In the common Greek of his day, his name was I·e·sous′. It means “Jehovah is salvation”. BTW, you ask a lot of questions but I don't see the point. When I answer questions, out of respect for you and others, no one even acknowledges them or responds to them. ie: “Did he speak English?” If you did a little research, you would know that English did not come into use until many centuries after Jesus (his English name). FYI, we do not HAVE to speak for Jesus to hear. He can understand “the language of angels” which is unspoken. My name is Gaelic, for example. It means “gift from God”. It is written and pronounced differently in every langauage but regardless of the pronunciation (which can change dramatically) the meaning never changes. My name was given to me by my father. Jesus name was given to him by his father, Jehovah.

            “I would put my chips to him”.

            I don't know what that means.

            “the marketing machine of the “Church of Jesus” or “Jehovah's Witnesses” …..don't know who you mean by “the Church of Christ” but I know Jehovah's Witnesses have no marketing “machine”. Why would they? They have nothing to gain. Those, for example who went to Niger, to teach them about Jehovah, made great sacrifices to do so, My feeling is that this is the first of many insulting and vulgar comments you make becuase you are not sincere. Jesus ignored such pointless comments because he had better things to do. Sincere people could see the futility of fools who only wished to waste Jesus time. He ignored them, for the most part, becuase they did not deserve an answer. He could read their hearts and knew that.

            “thy are f****d I guess, and isn't that a failure of God? or Jesus?”

            Perhaps you still speak olde english. I must apologise that despite my advanced age, I do not understand your dialect. Perhaps you should speak to God, who can read hearts.

            “I respect the symbolic and psychological process expressed by religion, in fact I think it is really essential in human life, but fanatism to texts and local ethnical relativities, hmmmm, I don't know.”

            Again, I don't know what fanatism is. But my concluding thought is that if people who comment on this site can't even proof-read their own comments or respond to that of others who have taken the time to do so in a thoughtful and respectful way, they must not have anything better to offer, only ridicule, therefore, I leave you with the words of Jesus brother Jude (Jude 18) “In the last time there will be ridiculers, proceeding according to their own desires for ungodly things.”

            If you truly are my friend, as you claim to be, you will not insult me or your creator or invite us to play games but give some thoughtful and respectful consideration to how and why you came to exist on this beautiful planet. I thank God and his son for what they have done for me and that impels me to read HIS word which describes a happy, positive and confident expectation for the future of sincere people. I will no longer be responding to mocking or insulting questions on this site. God's Word (Genesis to Revelation) is sufficient, so if you have issues with HIM, I will leave it to him to answer you.

            Your friend, Sean.

        • Tuna Ghost

          My questions aren't “endless”, there's really only one question and it pertains to the article that this comments feature is for. God's word and will has been re-interpreted a number of times and has come to have a lot of different meanings for a lot of different people. And I don't mean just the dogmatic metaphysical beliefs or minutia of doctrine, but the actual, literal words written down in the first few centuries CE.

          As such, there is a wide variety of Christian faiths, many of which believe that their tradition is literally the only way to everlasting life after death. I'm asking you, friend, what you believe in regard to this. Does one faith actually have the only key to salvation? Is getting to paradise as easy as simply confessing with your mouth that Christ is the Lord and believing in your heart that he was raised on the third day, like Paul said? Does the nitty gritty bits and pieces of doctrine come into play as well? Is a different metaphysical interpretation of the Trinity grounds for eternal damnation? These may all seem like several questions, friend, but it's really only one question.

  • chopped liver

    “The Bible says that people who work on the Sabbath must be killed: “Whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death” (Exodus 31:15). Should we execute Sunday-workers — or do you doubt this scripture?”

    That's the Old Testament. Don't think that applys, or we would be “Eye for an Eying” each others eyes out, riding camels, and stoning whores in the public market.

    Even a righteous man sins 7 times a day. You missed the point being legalistic.

    The New Testament:

    Jesus said ” Beware of the Sadducees and Pharisees.”

    Those who are so religious they miss the point and those who have no faith and miss the point.

    • Sol Invictus

      Ah, but the old testament DOES count. Jesus himself said that “he was not come to change my father's laws, but to enforce them.” This means that ALL the old laws still apply, no matter how sick and evil they are (selling your children into slavery, killing a disobedient son, making bread mixed with cow or human filth to offer Him, and many more unclean demands which anyone can find. (bibletrash.com)
      What point IS there in following a god who fully intends to destroy 99.9 percent of his own creation, admits he is the source of all evils in this world, and “Is weary of repenting”. I have nothing further to say but this: why do you despise, shun, and incarcerate humans that act like schizophrenic control-freaks with entitlement issues and psychotic rages, and yet worship the same in a god?

      Merry chrismahannakwanzzikkah.

  • PersonMcPerson

    I find it interesting when people say they have experienced something they cannot explain. As soon as they portray it that way, someone either calls them a liar or stupid. No doubt, if I experience something, no explainations, I will believe it. Believe it when I see it. I have experienced things of the unexplained nature. But I would never expect anybody to believe me unless they had the same experience.

  • http://thebirdofatlantis.blogspot.com/ Sangeetha Delampady

    Maybe I can categorize myself as a skeptic (even towards my ex-religion). I believe what Leo Tolstoy had to say about religion.
    That was an interesting list of dogmas… I find most of em irrational too.
    But then when it comes to a part of this: “The Bible says that people who work on the Sabbath must be killed: “Whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death” (Exodus 31:15). Should we execute Sunday-workers — or do you doubt this scripture?”
    I think a part of this is more rational of em all. I mean, if you take it in a different way, well having a holiday once a week refreshes, and recharges a person and re-energizes him. The person gets time to relax after a whole week of hard work and then on Monday, he can work in a more efficient way. When there is an increase in efficiency, he can contribute more and concentrate more on what he's doing. But then killing all the Sunday workers is totally irrational. I don't believe that part of it.

  • alrighty

    ignorance…
    twisted enough to create more ignorance:/

  • Connie Hudson

    Is there anything spiritual or extrasensory that we humans can agree on ? What about the thoughts, gut feelings, and emotions of Thomas Jefferson and Leo Tolstoy ?

    Thankfully Rene Descarte got us started in 1637 with a method of discourse that was based wholly on the five senses. At least then humanity could have a beginning point whereby they could test their ideas and verify their agreements or disagreements.

    Now that we have come far enough that the outcomes of our experiments take on a seeming life of their own and can not always be explained in terms of the sensory, why doesn't humanity develop a way of testing knowledge that includes both the sensory and the extrasensory?

    How about we move forward into agreement, instead of backwards into continued bashing of each other? How about we come up with a new inclusive philosophical language of life and a renewed spiritual view of ourselves and our universe?

  • Katelyn

    “The Bible says that people who work on the Sabbath must be killed: “Whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death” (Exodus 31:15). Should we execute Sunday-workers — or do you doubt this scripture?”
    “During the witch hunts, inquisitor priests tortured thousands of women into confessing that they blighted crops, had sex with Satan, etc. — then executed them for it. Do you think the Church was right to enforce the Bible’s command, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” (Exodus 22:18) — or do you doubt this scripture”

    You do realize that later in the Bible, the New Testament, it says that most all of the laws from the old testament are null and void aside from the Ten Commandments?
    Jesus also commanded the people to ‘Love the Sinner, hate the sin.’ Thus, the story of how Jesus saved the prostitute from being stoned. Most of the laws in the old testament are not to be taken seriously anymore. That’s why there was a new testament.
    I don’t know anything about the other religions, but before you start bring up points like that with Christianity, you might want to look into it a bit more.

  • Katelyn

    “The Bible says that people who work on the Sabbath must be killed: “Whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death” (Exodus 31:15). Should we execute Sunday-workers — or do you doubt this scripture?”
    “During the witch hunts, inquisitor priests tortured thousands of women into confessing that they blighted crops, had sex with Satan, etc. — then executed them for it. Do you think the Church was right to enforce the Bible’s command, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” (Exodus 22:18) — or do you doubt this scripture”

    You do realize that later in the Bible, the New Testament, it says that most all of the laws from the old testament are null and void aside from the Ten Commandments?
    Jesus also commanded the people to 'Love the Sinner, hate the sin.' Thus, the story of how Jesus saved the prostitute from being stoned. Most of the laws in the old testament are not to be taken seriously anymore. That's why there was a new testament.
    I don't know anything about the other religions, but before you start bring up points like that with Christianity, you might want to look into it a bit more.

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