The Manifesto Of Austin, Texas Crash Pilot Andrew Joseph Stack III

UPDATE: When I initially posted this story, the pilot’s name was reported as “Joseph Andrew Stack.” I have updated his name in light of current consensus reporting.

Various new outlets are reporting that a plane intentionally crashed into an IRS building in Austin, Texas. While the details are still being uncovered, it appears that the man who owned the plane, Andrew Joseph Stack III, left an online manifesto detailing his decision.

It’s also claimed that Stack set his house on fire before crashing his plane.

Here is the reported manifesto of Joe Stack below. Draw your own conclusions.

If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.

While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

And justice? You’ve got to be kidding!

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly “holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is.

How did I get here?

My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions. In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the help of some of the “best”, high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the business), and then began to do exactly what the “big boys” were doing (except that we weren’t steeling from our congregation or lying to the government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules, exactly the way the law said it was to be done.

The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country.

That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their “freedom”… and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of them.

Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984 after making my way through engineering school and still another five years of “paying my dues”), I felt I finally had to take a chance of launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer.

On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should digress somewhat to say that I’m sure that I inherited the fascination for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very young age.

The significance of independence, however, came much later during my early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on.

In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made. I decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

Return to the early ‘80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as a ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ contract software engineer… and two years later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706.

For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section 1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers) for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report (http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml#ConferenceCommitteeReport) regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws affect technical services workers and their clients, read our discussion here (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml).

SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL – Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

(d) EXCEPTION. – This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. – The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Note:

· “another person” is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship.

· “taxpayer” is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop.

· “individual”, “employee”, or “worker” is you.

Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is saying but it’s not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover, they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years later, I still can’t believe my eyes.

During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my ‘pocket change’, and at least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did, and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration of their “freedom”. Oh, and don’t forget, for all of the time I was spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn’t bill clients.

After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren’t going to enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of course, was the intended effect.

Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle. If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering and never looked back.

Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a shit about all of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement.

Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that, ‘special’ facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive. Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not quite yet all of my retirement and savings.

By this time, I’m thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to California, I’ll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance and where damn little real engineering work is done. I’ve never experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a fuck about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.

To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that year thinking that because I didn’t have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn’t notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend over for another $10,000 helping of justice.

So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to Bill Ross, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, Ross knew all along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around.

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great” depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of shit at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956–2010)

02/18/2010

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  • Karen

    Although no one can approve of this guy's method of expression, ya gotta have compassion for his plight. A person can only lose everything so many times before starting life again becomes overwhelming.

  • radiac

    Wow. This is kind of incredible.

  • surfangel1121

    Well this guy fought a war for freedom from the bullshit system in a different way! He is right on about the lies and greed of the government and justice system, the school and medical system it's all a bull shit way to get peoples hard earned dollar, yeah some of it is actually necessary, but they've gone way too far in taking advantage of people. This is no different then all wars fought innocent people could have died just to make a point, a good point, but I do believe he went about it the wrong way. God said vengence is His I know in time real justice will be served, but not until people prove what side they are on and if they are willing to sale their souls for greed and selfishness. Its not are place to take vengence for we are incapable of seeing who deserves what. I can't look down on this guy for what he did, although it isn't the right thing, all I can do is feel sorry for him and all the other victims of the ripple effects of hate, greed, and selfishness.

    • anon

      In the future, pleas lease use the following steps before you post
      1. learn proper English (i.e. the difference between sell and sale or the proper use of are vs our)
      2. post
      3. if unable to complete steps one and two, please remove yourself from the gene pool imeadiately

      • legion

        Really, anon? “Imeadiately” is not a word. Learn to keep your damn mouth shut and your hands off the keyboard.

        • cosmo77

          WTF anon you made a post about proper english which included “pleas lease” and “imeadiately” lol what a fail.

          As for the manifesto I think it was true, honest and awesome. Well done.

      • oman28

        Also, the phrase “learn proper english” is grammaticly incorrect. It should be “learn english properly”

  • JNL13

    Wow I understand how frustrating he must have been but it was no excuse to run his plane into the IRS bldg …

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PDDVWRQVUPMKRGHURIEQVNYWHQ Sean

      the IRS existing is enough

      • archgrafix

        Every immoral war, Sean? Every crime? Most of them happened WELL before the IRS or even the U.S.were ever thought of, all of them are immoral in their genesis and most have been fomented by religious zealots, who are supposed to value life.

        • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PDDVWRQVUPMKRGHURIEQVNYWHQ Sean

          did you not read the part that read caused by the federal government?

          • archgrafix

            You're right, my apologies. It escaped me. Too much to read tonight. Thanks.

  • jonas

    didn't exactly get the numbers he was looking for

    • Hh

      I don't think he was aiming for “numbers” Just attention.

  • mrwickey

    well, I can understand his plight, at least he was sensible enough to articulate, what was criminal acts to him. At least he didn't walk in the building armed to the teeth and kill 199 people. From the reports, all the IRS folks got out. So there is some building damage…and a life lost ( were there any more?) A sensational way to commit suicide, and make a statement. But a waste, just the same.

  • jonas

    maybe he needed a bigger plane

  • Clint

    This guy is crying about losing everything… What about the people in Haiti? It just makes me sick, this guy had his own plane and a nice house in Austin, by the way not from Texas originally, Im just saying, and was probably well nourished and he has the audacity to try to kill people to make a point that he got a bad deal. Well listen its isn't the best system or government in fact its probably the worst, but none others have been tried that give so many people a path to a better life. I hope no one lost a loved one because of this cry baby a-hole.

    • Word Eater

      You realize your comparison is a logical fallacy, right?

      Really? “What about the people in Haiti?”

      Why are you posting on the Internet when you could quit your job, liquidate your savings, donate everything to the Red Cross, and move to Haiti to assist with the clean up and rebuilding? While you sit there drinking filtered tap water, there are people drinking mud and filth. As you watch TV, there are people who have to listen to solar powered radios because electricity is an unheard of luxury. As you flush your toilet, there are people who shit in a hole in the ground right next to their water supply because they don't have plumbing or access to sanitary conditions.

      Clearly you are a terrible person.

      See how easy that is?

      The two things have absolutely no relationship to each other.

  • Keith

    I couldn't have said it better myself.

  • usausausausa

    Funny how the media is already saying these are “crazy, strange rants”. How predictable of the mainstream media. Are they scared that maybe the people will wake up to what is going on in this country?

    • Andrew

      As I've been browsing the coverage and commentary I've seen him portrayed as both a right wing extremist and a left wing extremist.

  • jonas

    perhaps banking the plane slightly would have damaged more floors simultaneously

  • http://disinfo.com ralph

    The building he crashed into is called the Echelon building:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals

  • Mok

    Well, if we go by “government physics”, this building, which was hit by a plane, and burned about an hour, with fires greater than that of WTC-7, should collapse at near freefall speed into it's own footprint by the end of the day.

    • meanolemom

      couldn't have said it better myself…..I am saddened that we have let our country become such an incompassionate place, where only the greedy can come out ahead,

      “The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

      The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.”

      truth has never been stated so well, by the people, of the people, for the people……not here.

    • honu

      good comment Mok.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Venus-Summers/100000680760640 Venus Summers

      yeah I waited to see if this building would collapse …….and it didnt!

  • janvoght

    Wake Up America!

  • ThisDude

    Now if that dude were allowed cannabis, he could've gotten all that off his chest and still be alive.

    • sidneee

      Never a truer word my friend. free the weed!

      • tonyviner

        Also, weed for free.

  • Me.

    Anyone with enough patience and knowledge of the English language would certainly be able to understand all of this. I find this incredible, honestly, and know he was a very brave person to do such a thing. This is in no way crazy. This is the very definition of sane. It has always been a hope of mine, now shared, that 'the American zombies wake up and revolt', but, seemingly unfortunately, very few people are die-hard enough to be a martyr. I'll just go ahead and say that I'm fully behind everything this man has stood for, with all of the futility and meaninglessness that can come with just saying such a thing. What's that, intelligence agencies? Did I say something naughty? Are you going to knock on my door now?

  • WereScrewed

    Unfortunately we'll all have to pay taxes to compensate the IRS for the damages to their building.
    Poor guy. I feel his frustration. Prepare yourself people, this will be happening more and more.
    Especially of Osama, oops I mean Obama gets his way.

    • Anon

      Fuck that, I'm not paying for that shit. Neither should you.

      • Alex

        you have no choice bud, sorry

  • Word Eater

    For someone who started by claiming a “gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts,” he certainly said a great deal and said it well.

    If this guy isn't a patriot, I don't know who is.

  • http://www.myspace.com/santosramos fabian_ramos

    wha wha whaaat?! its a wild world, in news
    today.

  • Anon

    Friends…please, let's do all we can to keep this guy's sacrifice from going unnoticed. Spread his words. Let's try to wake the others up.

  • Anon

    Friends…please, let's do all we can to keep this guy's sacrifice from going unnoticed. Spread his words. Let's try to wake the others up.

  • rfw888

    whether you agree or disagree with this man, there is something you should be aware of, and ready for: there will be more of this. People all over the US are increasingly angry and see no hope of changing things without violence. The targets of this violence will most likely be those who support the system the people feel is oppressing them. Why do you think several Senators picked now as the time to resign? This is not a good time to work for the government, any part of it. I personally wish there was a way to change things without resorting to violence, but I'd have a hard time keeping a straight face and saying there was one. Vote? Yeah, right. the last few years have demonstrated that voting is a fraud, your vote is worthless, besides, why vote when there is no difference between the candidates? Things will only get worse, much worse, before they start getting better.

    • unbound

      The question is whether people are really ready for a revolution. Thomas Jefferson was very well aware that it takes very dramatic actions to actually effect change in any system.

      The deeper you dig, the more you realize how corrupt many of the systems have become. At the heart of it all, this nation is largely fascist in nature (true fascism…government serving the corporate interests). What corporations do is make money…period. Part of how they make that money is maintaining the corrupt system that continues to feed them. Corporations have no other purpose (sorry, the goods or services that corporations produce is *how* they make money, not what they do), so there should be no surprise that they are “heartless”.

      So, we know that the system is corrupt at its heart. We know why it's corrupt. Now…what is *your* next step?

    • anon

      not to mention, if the supreme court doesn't like the outcome of an election they will simply elect a candidate for you. That's right, your appointed representatives electing your elected representatives.

  • htown

    We live in a really shitty amusement park.

  • Monie

    You are all ridiculously crazy and whoever “identifies” with this obviously disturbed and terrible man should be ashamed of yourselves (and hopefully watched closely to make sure you don't go and do the same damn thing!) Ok, I'm a pretty laid-back kind of young woman; I'm educated; I have hippie tendencies at heart, and I generally disagree with the way our government works, but FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! Almost all of you soul-less people on here are trying to rationalize what this guy did. WHO CARES if he had crushing debt?? Who doesn't nowadays?? I certainly do, but there's no way in hell that I'm going to let it affect the way I see this amazing world…. I'm not going to stop laughing and having fun and in the end, it's just a goddamn material thing anyway, money… No matter what the hell you're going through, it's NEVER justification to take someone else's innocent life. (You know, unless you're physically defending yourself or family or something…) So what if the guy was well-spoken… no excuse for needless violence and taking away someone's mother, or brother, or friend. Crazy times we live in…

    • Name

      “No matter what the hell you're going through, it's NEVER justification to take someone else's innocent life.”

      Kindly note his plane was aimed at the IRS… not a preschool. Saying those people were just in that office because they're “just doing their jobs” smacks of Nuremburg defense, doesn't it?

      Unfortunately, Miss Carefree, freedom does not come from being “laid back” and smoking dope. Our ancestors fought a bloody war with England over taxes 1/1000th of the burden we have today. Thank God hippie chicks didn't rule in 1776.

      • Mok

        Though I do agree with what Monie has said, I have to say that I also agree with what you said, mostly.

        Your are right, about a revolutionary act, like the ones you referred to in 1776. And I am all for that. But, your part about the plane being aimed at the IRS. It was not an IRS building, it was an office building which housed a branch office for the IRS. There were other business in that building as well, and fortunately, there was not a day care in there, that some of the bigger office buildings offer. Regardless of where he aimed, and “wanted” it to go. It was a plane, not a poison dart. He was not sniping the leader and someone got in the way. He was, for all intended purposes, dropping a bomb on that building. There was no care for the others inside who were not IRS agents.

        So, I have to ask you this. Where do you draw the line if justifiable collateral damage?

        Or, is it ok for Soldiers to blow up a city block just to kill one enemy combatant? The were just doing their job.

        The revolution should be about restoring the Republic from a tyrannical charismatic dictatorship. Not a para-military coup killing anything in it's path.

        • Name

          “So, I have to ask you this. Where do you draw the line if justifiable collateral damage? Or, is it ok for Soldiers to blow up a city block just to kill one enemy combatant? The were just doing their job.”

          Collateral damage seems to be official US policy. Not only in war zones like Iraq and Afghanistan, but in their domestic thuggery as well. The case I can most easily call to mind would be Waco, but that was neither the first nor the last time innocent children died at gov't hands on our own soil.

          Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, ya know. This is not to say that collateral damage is justifiable, because it isn't. But don't cry and wring your hands over it, either.

  • JonathanDogood

    the man is a hero.

    • Waffen_SS

      He needed a bigger plane! This man is a Hero! Well done!!!

  • T. Roll

    TLDR

  • 5by5

    It's too bad this guy didn't have more compassionate people in his life to help him out, not to mention better institutional support that recognized he wasn't trying to “cheat”, therefore he shouldn't be treated like someone who was.

    When he talks about “thugs and plunderers” screwing up things in this country, he is quite simply and objectively CORRECT. And for the media to write him off as merely “some crazy lone nut” is simplistic (something else we've come to expect from that lot) and completely misses the point, which is that “there but before the grace of circumstance/God/Buddha/good friends/nice family/etc. go all of us”.

    It reminds me quite a bit of the passage written by the Unabomber which was quoted by Bill Joy in his seminal article, “Why the Future Doesn't Need Us”.

    Read here: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html

    The central observation being, “Kaczynski's actions were murderous and, in my view, criminally insane. He is clearly a Luddite, but SIMPLY SAYING THIS DOES NOT DISMISS HIS ARGUMENT; as difficult as it is for me to acknowledge, I saw some merit in the reasoning in this single passage. I FELT COMPELLED TO CONFRONT IT.”

    So we should address some of what pushed this other guy off the beam, too.

    What I think is clear right from the top, is that we have here a guy who under other circumstances might have been wound a little tight, but probably would have been the last person you'd expect to act out violently. In the Unabomber's case, we had a guy who was already fragile psychologically pushed off the edge by a CIA experiment his own psychiatrist performed on him while he was at University, that literally broke his mind by pushing emotional buttons. This combined with other events in his life, and “Voila!” you've got an otherwise intelligent man completely flipping out.

    With the intense stresses being placed on people, combined with the lack of a compassionate response or assistance (or worse, cruel and idiotic “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” arguments), while simultaneously kissing the butts of the rich and a failure to punish THEM when they screw up (indeed more often than not they're rewarded with bonuses), and providing people with no RATIONAL means to improve their situation — no pressure valve of expression that gives verifiable results — and you end up with tragedies like this.

    Sadly, the systemic gutting of all means of NON-violent redress, and well as the evisceration of financial safety nets for average people that have taken place over the last 40 years have made incidents like this more likely.

    This guy just couldn't manage the natural cognitive dissonance in his head at looking at the wealth disparities combined with the unequal treatment, and snapped.

    Nobody approves of his chosen method. Violence yields nothing but more pain. But if you're going to prevent such things (to the extent you can) you must deal with the root causes — which aren't just this dude's individual circumstances, but also is the very real inequality and lack of compassion in our society.

    We simply need to stop hurting each other. The simple kindness & generosity our mother's counseled us to have, is actually IMPORTANT for the society at large.

    We have enough for everyone's need, were it not for a few people's greed.

    • Waffen_SS

      What rubbish did you write?? This man is a Hero!! Why the puppet (Osama-Obama and the Jews behind him) didn't comment yet??????????????????

      • Austinite

        Obama didn't cause the bottom to fall out, you closed minded turd.

      • Norest

        He set fire to his house while his wife and daughter were still inside.

        • Norest

          Sorry. I got my facts mixed up. They were at a hotel that night and arrived that morning to find their home destroyed.

  • http://thefirstchurchofmutterhals.blogspot.com/ mutterhals

    This guy isn't a hero, he was just some rich asshole. Had this guy been a successful entreprenuer, he would have been the same kind of moral less suit everyone rails against. I love how a man with his own plane is being described as desperate, if only I could be so 'desperate'.

    • Waffen_SS

      Idiot! He worked his ass to buy everything he had (house, plane, business, etc). Didn't you read his message?? He is a true Hero! And the Jews are Thieves

      • http://thefirstchurchofmutterhals.blogspot.com/ mutterhals

        Muwhahahaha, I require the blood of a virgin gentile to complete my dastardly plan…

    • Defilar

      agreed

  • Anon

    Well played, Joe. Well played.

    • Pete

      If only it would make a difference… RIP

  • Joe

    This guy was clearly crazy. Can't decide if he's an anarchist or a communist, wants universal health care and social security but not to pay taxes. Anyone who identifies with this rambling is clearly f'd in the head

  • Defilar

    You spelled losing wrong…

    • loser

      so fucking what?

  • completely agree

    All i can say is the man was comletely sane and spent a lot of time writing the message. He was even ready to sacrifice his life to make his message seen. Maybe he will be remembered as a guy starting a revolt. But violence is not the answer. Even if you hate the system harming the people around you trying to live ones life is never the answer but a problem. If there´s a piece of democracy left on the country you can make the difference so copy the message above and show it to your friends.

    • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/PDDVWRQVUPMKRGHURIEQVNYWHQ Sean

      there isn't a piece of democracy left,
      corporations act like our Guardian council.
      If you aren't in the pocket of some corporation you will never see office,
      do all the grass roots organizing you want, it wont matter, money drives elections
      not ideas or good intentions.

      and on another note, if you are unwilling to use violence you will never be taken seriously

  • ShaunSheep

    Funny how the details of this posting were not discussed on main stream media outlets. Much as I dont condone what he did, I can totally understand why he felt the need to make a stand in the hope that the rest of us fools might learn an important lesson from what he has endured.

  • paddle

    You will not be forgotten. You are a martyr for the cause. I hope we all can take a lesson from this and stand up to the oppression that has been building for years. If we don't take a stand for ourselves, who will?

  • tonyviner

    I wish that I could have met this man so that I could have suggested using a bigger plane. He is absolutely right in everything that he said. What I find most amusing about this are all of the Tea Party fools that immediately identified with the man and his anti-tax rhetoric before reading the manifesto, specifically the last couple of lines.

    • Name

      Why, because only educated liberals are allowed to criticize the tax system?

      When are you dingbats going to break out of the two-party paradigm? We are ALL being fucked. If you would actually talk to a few “tea baggers” on the street, you'll find you have a lot more in common with them than you do with the talking heads who tell you to hate them. Try it.

      You think middle-class conservatives like the Wall Street shenanigans? You think they don't know the difference between corporatism, and free markets?

      Step out of lockstep for a bit; open your mind.

      • tonyviner

        I do not think that, sir. I do think, however, that these so-called “middle-class conservatives” are just a little more blind to the conditions that plague this great country. It is not hard to imagine why with guys like Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage and Karl Rove are at the helm. These people are working to keep the public blind to the immense change that is needed in an attempt to fill their pockets and the pockets of their masters. They do this through nationalistic rhetoric and poor people's religious gullibility (before you say anything, I am poor too). I am not saying that people on the left (there is a discernible difference) are not guilty of the same thing, but it is a little more apparent on the other side.

  • GoodDoktorBad

    We could all be this guy if pushed hard enough. I hope alot of people take the time to read those words and maybe a bell in their head will ring. It's sad that he felt forced by such predatory forces to take the role of martyr. The IRS is a blood sucking Vampire institution that exists to support our increasingly corrupt, private interest controlled government. The IRS is the friend of few and the true enemy of most of the citizens it was supposedly created to help serve….

  • freedomlover76

    This man is a HERO! May God bring many more like him to make a much needed change. Abolish the parsite IRS now!

  • Gregory

    Wow. I'm shocked at all the support for this loony.

    Here's the facts. This guy wasn't good at business and couldn't keep track of his tax responsibilities. He had a career, a house and a plane that he owned, etc. As many people do (apparently some of them have made comments here) they blame the government, the whites or the blacks or the gays or the liberals or the conservatives or the French or the aliens that they can only foil by wearing hats made of tinfoil…anyone except themselves.

    The truth…yeah, there's quite a bit about America that stinks and most of the rest of the world wishes they had our problems. America isn't full of people who have been done wrong by the system, but there are a lot of people unable to admit that they, as my mother used to say “messed in their own nest.” There's this sense of entitlement in America where someone somehow expects to have success if they do this or they do that. The idea that you can do anything if you just apply yourself, yadda yadda. Well, fiddlesticks, that's not reality and this waterhead didn't realize his American dream and he threw one final temper tantrum. Quite a bit that he said in his suicide note rings true. But this guy was just a loser, not a victim of a system, and he couldn't look himself in the mirror and take ownership of that. He loathed himself and tried to find someone else he hated more than him.

    This guy was a loony. He was a domestic terrorist and I hope he's spending eternity in Hell doing Satan's taxes. The idea that flying your plane into a building or sending bombs in the mail or voting Republican has anything to do with “waking people up” itself is an idea produced by a sleeping mind.

    fiat lux

    • sadfad

      He may be a little loony, and a shitty businessman but i agree, i hope to watch it burn with the greed and piss on the ashes

  • wilsonqu

    test

  • Jay Nowman

    While it is regrettable that there were probably a couple undeserving victims, the reallity is that Andrew Joseph Stack lll, died like a REAL patriot in defense of the American people. He was not delusional – he was correct. He saw “freedom” for what it was and still is – an illusion that is the result of institutional brainwashing. Schools don't teach our children that our founding fathers were terrorists, criminals and muderers – but that's what they were as far as England was concerned. They teach that there is “no taxation without representation” – but convicted felons who are not allowed to vote are still required to pay taxes. Institutions are not created to solve any problems – they are created to manage the condition efficiently, effectively and to the continued disempowerment of the governed. If apathy is the glove into which tyranny slips its hand – Andrew Stack was a spider that bit its finger. They should put his picture on a postage stamp!

  • p.gibbons

    Does’t sound like a bass players writings…his signature with a pen is not on it…wouldn’t be surprised to find Joe pumping gas in Detriot somewhere!

  • p.gibbons

    Does't sound like a bass players writings…his signature with a pen is not on it…wouldn't be surprised to find Joe pumping gas in Detriot somewhere!

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