• honu

    I respect these young guys. They did a decent job of presenting their point of view and calling out ABC news but they did get a bit emotional at times which lost them some ground. I don't share their opinion that Bush or anyone in the American government is behind 9/11. I only believe what the evidence I've read tells me and that is, the WTC towers were a controlled demolition….absolutely. Beyond that I have no idea who might truly behind it or how it happened. I think that's the 9/11 truthers biggest problem. They over reach with the facts they've collected. I've seen no evidence of who is behind it.

  • Kakulja

    Very intense. Thanks for posting this. It's really great behind the scenes look at the disinformation campaign currently under way.

  • Sanger

    BRAVO!

  • 5by5

    Here's what I like about it.

    The filmmakers ask a centrally important question to the corporate media guy. Namely, “Why are you interviewing us about what we think, rather than going out and investigating the actual EVIDENCE.”

    And the best that ABC hack can come up to justify his claim of the MSM doing “hundreds of stories” is a single long-discredited Popular Mechanics article edited by Benjamin Chertoff (the cousin of Bush Administration Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff – gee, no conflict of interest there), as proof of the media's efforts at “investigative journalism”.

    Please.

    They spent more effort on Lacey Peterson or OJ than they have on critically examining the discrepancies in the government's conspiracy theory.

    Instead the entertainment news media (I wouldn't characterize it as “journalism”), owned by defense contractors who've profited tremendously from the wars, try to reduce the entire thing down to a fluff piece about the personalities involved, rather than examining the data like the discrepancies between the Flt 77 black box flight recorder (which presumably has no political agenda whatsoever), and the account of the Flt 77 in the 9/11 Commission Report.

    Not to mention that basically zero ink or air time has been expended on the fact that the Senior Legal Counsel for the 9/11 Commission Report, John Farmer, says that the report itself is a lie, and that other Commissioners agree with him.

    Instead such an explosive story is relegated to small, local press outlets that next to nobody's ever heard of, like Oregon's Salem News:

    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/september112

    One primary way to prove that a major cover-up is taking place is simply the corporate media's aggressive LACK of interest in a news item that important and ground-breaking.

    And it's certainly not the ONLY example.

    If it's not relegated to local press, critical revelations are shunted off to the wilds of the few Liberal media outlets that still exist – most of them community supported by listeners like those who patron Pacifica Radio's KPFK. I'm talking explosive stories that cast doubt on the overall validity of the data in the report, such as an analysis by “Democracy Now!”, that found that more than 1/4 of the “evidence” for the government's conspiracy theory contained in the 9/11 Commission Report was obtained via torture — a method of interrogation specifically DESIGNED TO ILLICIT FALSE TESTIMONY FOR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES.

    Link: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/7/the_9_11_c

    I also like how the one dude throws the patriot card right back in the reporter's face, by basically pointing out, “Hey douche, I served in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I've got actual skin in this, so don't try to portray me as anti-American simply for asking pertinent questions about the most game-changing event of the new millennium.”

    That's one I'm sick of too. The contention that if you ask these hard questions, some how you're against your country. No bitch, I'm asking these questions because I want to PRESERVE American ideals “against all enemies foreign AND domestic.” People like me (on both sides of the political aisle I might add) want answers to these questions because we want ALL those responsible held accountable and brought to the bar of justice.

    THAT is the American way.

  • GoodDoktorBad

    I can't help but draw a dotted line to the scene in the movie “Fight Club” (1999) where all those buildings fall into themselves, demolishion style. I make no claims to a connection, but the film certainly had an oddly phrophetic ring to it, being made before 9/11.
    But the film also illustrates how buildings fall when professionally demolished. Straight down, so as not to cause peripheral damage.
    I think these guys in the film did a good job of not getting flustered and answered the questions articulatly. ABC did ask loaded questions, but they held there ground well. One for the good guys. Wheeeeee!
    There is nothing unreasonable about questioning how those events have been “explained” officially.

  • 5by5

    The other question the ABC guy asks that really chaps my ass is that, “Some people see you as a lunatic fringe movement.”

    Really? WHICH people? Who in particular are our accusers? What's THEIR agenda?

    That's a total Faux Nooze question – I though you worked for ABC, sport.

    That sort of non-question, just a “provocative accusation” sort of thing that no one can actually answer to, but that serves the purpose of planting the mere notion that you “might be” in the audience's mind?

    LAME Wicked, wicked lame.

  • 5by5

    And the end was precious too.

    ABC Guy: “I'll let you do your job, you let me do mine.”
    Loose Change Guy: “Because you're NOT doing your job!”

    These kids made this fracking movie precisely BECAUSE the corporate media doesn't do any actual investigative journalism anymore.

    And I'm not just saying that in reference to this event either. If it wasn't broadly true, then Project Censored wouldn't have as much material as they do YEARLY about what the corporate media fails to cover that is of critical importance to the American people.

    • ebwolf

      Unfortunately, ABC guy was doing his job. Discredit any information that poses a threat to the narrative of U.S. Inc. If they can't successfully attack the message, they'll attack the messenger.

  • caphillprof

    This alleged ABC reporter is a real piece of work. More like a CIA operative.

    • ebwolf

      They prefer the term “multi-tasker.”

  • goy with a brain

    The MSM is “mainstream” Jew disinfo.

    These “loose screws” snot-nose punks are “alternative” Jew disinfo.

    So therefore NEITHER PARTY is forthcoming with 9-11's sole item of any real interest: Jews obviously did it. Qui bono, baby, qui bono?

    But, since this site is itself another Jew disinfo front, you already knew all that didn't you?

    • GoodDoktorBad

      What the hell are you talking about? Explain yourself rationally, if you can. If your (Dis)info has any merit this is the place to find people who will at least listen to your rantings.
      Again I ask, what are you saying exactly? Perhaps I might even agree with you, at least in part. Then again, perhaps not……

  • Anonymous

    What the hell are you talking about? Explain yourself rationally, if you can. If your (Dis)info has any merit this is the place to find people who will at least listen to your rantings.
    Again I ask, what are you saying exactly? Perhaps I might even agree with you, at least in part. Then again, perhaps not……

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