Film A Cop: Go To Jail

One of the classic signs of a police state: any criticism of the police or the state is a crime in itself. Police should be accountable, as should every government agency, so citizens photographing or shooting video of police actions should help to keep these public servants (yes, that’s what they are, technically) on the straight and narrow. One would like to think so, anyway… Report from ABC News::

That Anthony Graber broke the law in early March is indisputable. He raced his Honda motorcycle down Interstate 95 in Maryland at 80 mph, popping a wheelie, roaring past cars and swerving across traffic lanes.

But it wasn’t his daredevil stunt that has the 25-year-old staff sergeant for the Maryland Air National Guard facing the possibility of 16 years in prison. For that, he was issued a speeding ticket. It was the video that Graber posted on YouTube one week later — taken with his helmet camera — of a plainclothes state trooper cutting him off and drawing a gun during the traffic stop near Baltimore.

In early April, state police officers raided Graber’s parents’ home in Abingdon, Md. They confiscated his camera, computers and external hard drives. Graber was indicted for allegedly violating state wiretap laws by recording the trooper without his consent.

Arrests such as Graber’s are becoming more common along with the proliferation of portable video cameras and cell-phone recorders. Videos of alleged police misconduct have become hot items on the Internet. YouTube still features Graber’s encounter along with numerous other witness videos. “The message is clearly, ‘Don’t criticize the police,'” said David Rocah, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland who is part of Graber’s defense team. “With these charges, anyone who would even think to record the police is now justifiably in fear that they will also be criminally charged.”…

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  • E.B. Wolf

    What the hell was the reason to draw the gun on a speeder who was already stopped and showing no hint of resistance?
    The use of wiretap laws to dissuade the population from keeping the police honest is totally unjustifiable to anyone who values Freedom and Liberty as anything more than campaign slogans and corporate talking points.

  • malatesting123

    Just another stepping up of the class war. Giving the swine this type of authority is another step towards the creation of death squads in this country. Soon enough, “undesirables” will mysteriously disappear and all investigations of the police will hit a big blue wall. With the consent of industry and political leaders, the police will take this as giving them carte blanche to continue such atrocities, knowing they are fully backed by the state and the elements that support it. More and more ex soldiers, with training in how to kill civilians and frame innocent individuals, will push out any elements remaining inside police forces nationwide who might oppose such actions. Soon enough, all of America starts to look like that bridge in New Orleans. The citizenry, cowed by invented threats propagated by the media, will look away, while those too angry to ignore their growing poverty and hunger will be met with the business end of the truncheon, torture cell, and gun. Welcome to the 21st Century America.
    What am I saying?
    This could never happen here.
    Right?

    • http://www.facebook.com/victor.r.franca Victor

      scary. I hope it does not happen.

  • DeepCough

    Well, if you're interested in that article, I would suggest this one, too, for further reading.

  • tbone mendez

    people need to grow some fucking balls and stop being such ignorant pussies. Sorry if this is blunt but its the truth, no more will we sit here and cry like helpless hippies or angry anarchists we need to wake up and fight fire with fire.

    • http://www.facebook.com/victor.r.franca Victor

      its the fear of prison. If this becomes a widespread problem we should all just join the military and become spartaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Word Eater

    Damn, I need to join the police force so I can get in on this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/victor.r.franca Victor

    I think the think the only way to really video tape police brutality is to be an inconspicuous bystander, then post the video using an anonymous proxy or at the library so they don't come busting in. Plus this video is great propaganda against speeding. Who the heck will want to speed and encounter an out of control officer abusing his power pumped up on adrenaline with a loaded pistol? Not me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bulletproofheart

    Cops are the most fearful out of all of us. Their actions prove this. Especially when you are a Swiney McPigglet Pussy Bitch and you witness or uncover most of the hideous fucked up crimes and atrocities the masses ooze into the streets.
    I dont blame them, I would be scared shitless of us to…cause they know what we're capable of

  • dlosthobbit

    The message here is if you break the law and get caught, you are going to pay for it. In case you people didn't know this, it's illegal to record audio of anyone without consent! The trooper didn't do anything wrong. They put their lives on the line everyday for the very people who show absolutely no respect for the law. What would people be saying when this trooper was peeling this guy's body or the body of someone this guy ran into while driving reckless off the highway? Then it would be a different story. Everyone would be screaming why aren't they doing more to stop these motorcyclists. I for one am sick and tired of watching these motorcyclists drive so reckless on the highways. The worst part is they blatantly do this as a sign of disrespect for the law. It's time people started showing respect for Maryland State Police. The fact is if you aren't doing anything illegal, you don't have anything to worry about.

    • E.B. Wolf

      “The fact is if you aren't doing anything illegal, you don't have anything to worry about.”

      That's exactly why civilians should be able to videotape police in public.

      • dlosthobbit

        That's the reason MSP has cameras in their cars, which drivers are notified of immediately when they are stopped. The issue in this case is the audio. If he wanted to break the law he should have been smarter about it. Why isn't anyone saying anything about the issue of these motorcyclists who are out there breaking the law and putting their lives as well as the lives of other motorists at risk? Do you think for one minute this guy would have pulled over on his own? Who do you think has to notify the families when these guys kill themselves on the highway? Trust me if you knew anyone that had to do this you would think differently. I understand the whole sysytem of checks and balances and I know not all cops are not good cops, but I stand behind what I said. If this guy wasn't breaking the law he wouldn't be in this situation now.

        • tonyviner

          Maybe it's just me, but I wish more cops would die in the line of duty. Maybe then these swine would learn a thing or two about self respect and look for a decent job.

          • dlosthobbit

            Believe me your wish is granted everyday! A decent job? Are you kidding me? Do you know the annual salary of a Maryland State Trooper? Please look it up. They do not do the job they do for the pay that's for sure. You obviously have no heart. These people are human beings. They are someone's son, daughter, father, mother…
            Wishing death on people you don't even know is just evil.

          • E.B. Wolf

            Maryland State Trooper starting salary as of July 1, 2008: $40, 989.
            After 18 yrs (If they never advance beyond trooper) :$65,814.
            Add in a very generous package of vacation, sick time, personal and holidays:42-57 days/year.
            Retirement after only 22 years or 50 years of age with full pension.
            That's not even mentioning the perks, including speeding with impunity on or off duty, discounts from businesses all over town who kiss their asses, and the ability to drink and drive with a free pass from fellow cops. I've seen it happen numerous times, so don't even try to deny it happens.
            That's more money than most people make so, yea, the money is a big part of it. Most cops aren't bright or creative enough to find a more lucrative career doing anything else than what they do. But many of them do it for the POWER. Absolute, unquestionable POWER.

            The Big Lie that you and your boot-licking ilk love to spread on thick is that cop's jobs are SOOOOO dangerous, as if they're burying their own every single day. Bullshit.

            Maryland Police Killed on Duty in 2010: 1. Hector Ismael Ayala. Killed when he drove his patrol car off the road and into a tree. Learn to drive, dumb fuck.
            2. Wesley Brown. Killed by gunfire while moonlighting as private security. Greedy bastard.
            That's it. One on-duty Maryland police officer has died in 2010 because he couldn't fucking drive.
            Maybe instead of raiding Sgt. Anthony Graber's house and threatening him with 16 years in prison for posting a video, they should have paid him to teach their force the art of high-speed maneuvering. Their lone 2010 casualty might still be alive.

          • dlosthobbit

            http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2010-01-05/new

            This man was having an affair with trooper Evan's wife and he did not pull a gun on this guy, but the judge took the word of an adulterer over a trooper in good standing. This man was married and was cheating on his wife too. There was no evidence that what the man said was true.

            There are 2 issues with the video. Was it legal for the guy to videotape, both audio and visual, the trooper? The law is specific when it comes to recording audio of any person, not just police. Plain and simple, it's illegal. Was it right to charge him? It's not for us to decide. It's a legal issue which no doubt will be taken to the highest court. The second issue is if the trooper acted in accordance with the law when he got out of the car. Shipley says it was in accordance with the law. Once again a legal issue. Was it necessary for him to draw his gun when the guy was backing up? It's not for us to decide.

            All this hate of the police is extremely predjudicial. You and others on this site have made character judgements because of their occupation. I don't think that's fair. I must ask, do you know anyone in law enforcement or did you have a bad experience that has you so anti police? I don't believe anyone is saying you can't videotape police, but you can't record audio. Can you tell me where you found it illegal to videotape without audio?

            Are you aware msp took a 2% paycut last year? There was no way to furlough them like other state agencies so their pay was cut. You want to know the numbers of deaths on a national level visit the officer down memorial page. It's a lot more than you would imagine. Compared to other professions, it is very dangerous, especially if you work the highways. I'm curious if you are so anti-police what do you suggest we do to police the community? They sure as hell can't police themselves. When people are given the opportunity to do the right thing with out being given an incentive, whether it's positive or negative, the majority of people in this country will do the wrong thing. The issue I have with videotaping is it doesn't cover what led up to the incident that was videotaped. You can make an incident look amazingly different based on when you push the record and stop button.

            I appreciate the opportunity to debate these issues, but I think it's inappropriate of you to speak ill of the dead. Please understand I am not stupid and I do know for a fact there are plenty of police officers that do it for the power, but the numbers that do it for other reasons outweighs the power hungry corrupt group.

          • E.B. Wolf

            I've already visited the memorial page. That's where i got the listings for the two Maryland cops killed this year. None in the line of duty.

            92 total deaths in 2010.
            Even that small number is misleading due to the fact that they include deaths of active cops who die in incidents completely unrelated to their jobs.
            They list 2 by assault, 32 by gunfire, and 7 by vehicular assault. That's 41 total deaths NATIONWIDE due to violence or recklessness by civilians while on duty.

            To put things in better perspective.

            Cops average 16 deaths per 100k workers and draw an average salary of $51,410 nationwide. Compare with:

            Fisherman: 129/100k -$27,950
            Logger: 116/100k -$30,360
            Structural Construction Worker: 46/100k -$47,170
            Garbage Man: 37/100k -$32,790
            Roofer: 34/100k -$37,430
            Taxi/Limo Driver: 21/100k -$25,820
            CDL Truck Driver: 22/100k -$37,850

            Police have a sweet deal. They have a safer job than all the above, they make more money, and their pension and benefits packages are unparalleled. So the next time you want to praise a hero who keeps the streets safe for little money and less appreciation; salute your local garbage man. He's earned it more.

          • Bryan

            Very old post, I know… but goddamn man, you are a fucking arguementative genius. You showed the boot-licking cocksucker an arguement he couldn’t possibly combat. Stopped him in his tracks. The garbage man he claimed doesn’t fear for his life like a police officer is actually more likely to die on the job THAN the police officer. The fucking garbage man, at more risk than a cop.

            Makes me wonder if garbage men are violently assaulted by the proud owners of trash. Or if the trash itself kills them. Or if they fall off the back of the truck and crack their heads open or something.

          • tonyviner

            I am merely a product of the society which bred me.

          • E.B. Wolf

            If only. It only adds to their delusions of heroism.

        • E.B. Wolf

          You're response is so full of misrepresentations and outright falsehoods, I barely know where to start.

          1. The guy already stopped when the unmarked pulled up to him so,yes, he would and did stop on his own.
          2. The issue is not audio (there is none on this video). Maryland has stretched the wiretap law to include video recorded in public space. This is not a privacy issue. It is a blatant PR move to stop citizens from using the only effective tool available to expose cops who abuse their power. Police departments nationwide have demonstrated time and again that they defend their own no matter how blatantly wrong they are.
          3. A speeding motorcyclist on a major highway, where pedestrians are not allowed, is only putting himself at great risk of injury or death. If you where traveling in even a medium sized car and had a collision with a bike; it would be similar to hitting a large deer. He would be splattered. You would have some front-end damage. That is a main reason why motorcycle insurance is a fraction of the cost of insurance for a larger vehicle.
          4.The cameras on MSP cars can be turned off or the footage “lost” at the convenience of the MSP. They are not effective as a check on police power as they can be easily circumvented by cops.
          5. As to your multiple “what ifs”: What if a pair of Maryland troopers decide to pull your mother over, drag her out of the car, and gang fuck her with their flashlights? A concerned citizen with a cellphone video could catch them in the act and help put them in prison where they belong. But it's illegal, and therefor inadmissible in court. They walk. You'd feel differently about recording cops who act inappropriately then, wouldn't you?

          I'm not saying the guy should not have been stopped and cited for speeding. He deserved a ticket. I am saying drawing his weapon was totally unnecessary and the MSP later raiding the guy's fucking home and threatening him with a felony for posting the video is unacceptable in a society that claims to value Liberty.

          • dlosthobbit

            Okay, I'm going to dispute some of what you have said here.

            1. He didn't have a choice but to pull over at that point. Where was he going to go?
            2. There is audio. You are viewing the one where the sound has been deleted. Check on you tube and you will find the one with the audio. I understand what you are saying about the stretch in the wiretap law. In my opinion, this guy should have not posted this and given them a way to charge him further. Let's face it, the guy posted it to snub MSP. Not a smart move. He gave them the ammunition. Believe me, MSP does not defend their own when they have done something wrong. The will distance themselves quickly if the trooper is wrong. There are some very corrupt police departments, not only nationwide, but right here in Maryland. I agree 100% with that part of your statement.
            3. What happens when the car he hits swerves into another lane of traffic? That scenario is very plausible. The issue of him being splattered, leads me to who is going to clean it up?
            4. I agree with you on the issue of the MSP cars' cameras not always being on, but they don't “lose” tapes.
            5. That's a pretty sick “what if”, but I'll go with it. All you need is the “concerned citizen”, if they even exist anymore, to be the eye witness. No one in this world is going to look the other way on something like this. Even Baltimore City police take those allegations seriously.

            I can't say if drawing his weapon was necessary or not because I wasn't there, but I see your point. As for the additional charges, that's on him. If he hadn't posted it, there wouldn't be an issue. If he had a problem with it he could have handled it through the court system. Trust me, this guy isn't going to serve any time. The court system is actually tilted towards citizens, not law enforcement. Watch the news and you will see the repeat offenders becoming more violent with each arrest. Yes I realize this doesn't apply to this guy. Also, don't believe everything you read in the paper or see on video. There's always more to it than meets the eye.

          • E.B. Wolf

            1. He was stopped and nonresistant nonetheless. Are you arguing that cops have a justifiable right to approach every single traffic stop with guns drawn?
            2. You understand that the wiretap law is a stretch, but he shouldn't have posted it? Civil disobedience of unjust laws to inspire reform is responsible for not only the founding of this country, but many of the best qualities of American society.
            3. More “what ifs” about scenarios that did not happen.
            4. Why do you think the dash cams are used selectively? Yes, tapes are sometimes “misfiled.”

            http://deadspin.com/5522419/footage-of-maryland
            5. Provide even one example of a cop being convicted on the basis of a civilian's eyewitness testimony.

          • dlosthobbit

            5. MSP Trooper Evans. I'll get back to you with a link. It just happened last year. He was convicted and sentenced to 5 years mandatory on the eye witness statement of the man his wife was having an affair with.

          • dlosthobbit

            4. For arguments sake, let's just talk about MSP. They do not misfile or lose tapes. I can't possibly speak for every law enforcement agency out there in the country and I don't believe you can either. The press does a wonderful job of keeping the masses stirred up.
            1. No I do not think it is justifiable to approach every single traffic stop with guns drawn. I will say this, I couldn't be in law enforcement because I wouldn't be able to sit back and take all of the disrepect they take today.

          • E.B. Wolf

            Didn't even bother to check the link, huh?

            The press, especially local media, tiptoes around local police. They have to if they want any type of access. Which goes back to the original point of this post.

          • dlosthobbit

            Yes I did check the link and am fully aware of what happened. I told you I can't speak to the ethics of all law enforcement agencies. Yes, I admit there is corruption and cover ups everywhere but I do know what MSP does and what there reputation is. That is why I suggested to narrow down the focus to just msp. I'm also saying not all troopers are good either, as evidenced by the recent arrest of Trooper Tucker.

            Did you check my link? If so, I'd like to get credit for identifying a scenario where the citizen's word is taken over a trooper.

            Any chance you can answer my questions about why you are so anti state police and what do you expect the police to do? Society would be utter chaos without them.

            You can't always trust the press no matter which way you look at things. If you want to know the truth about things, you have to dig deeper.

            I am impressed by the amount of research you put into your responses. I appreciate it.

          • E.B. Wolf

            Yes I did check the link. It was not very detailed as to the circumstances. It mentioned the officer went to the man's home to confront him, and the guy called the police. It did not go into detail as to what happened when the police arrived.
            Also, you're statement that he didn't pull his gun on the man is unfounded.
            But to be fair, I searched for a more detailed link and came up empty. So I will give partial credit where it is due.
            B-

          • dlosthobbit

            Fortunately for you, I too am having a hard time finding a more detailed link. You're right, it's unfounded, but I believe he was telling the truth. I have given a great deal of thought to your argument about cops not having a dangerous job. My response is police are faced with a possible life threatening situation on each traffic stop they make and every call they respond to. The danger is in the possibility each time of being shot or having to shoot someone else. I know you don't like the what ifs or possibilities, but the emotional stress would be a killer. I don't think the trash man is thinking about getting killed everyday he is out collecting trash.

          • malatesting123

            “The court system is tilted toward citizens”. Wow. This has to be the most propagandistic, one sided blind bullshit ever. You should be ashamed of yourself for basing an argument on such a disgusting falsehood. Oscar Grant, Diallo, King, everyone whos ever protested anything in this country in the last 25 years, can tell you (or cant, because they are dead) that that is unmitigated, brazen bullshit of the worst kind.

          • dlosthobbit

            Really? Have you sat in a court room lately? Most of the people being tried are repeat offenders of violent crimes and they still walk out the door. It's an absolute disgrace that society has become so corrupt and people such as yourself don't even see it. Do you what the mission of law enforcement agencies is? It's not punish the people. What is your problem with msp? Do you have some personal vendetta against them?

          • malatesting123

            You have a very skewed and simplistic understanding of the nature of coercive power in our modern society. Just in case you didnt know, we have the highest per capita rate of imprisonment in the world. We lock people up every minute of the day for nonviolent offenses. And the rates of recidivism (re the failure of the system to do anything BUT punish those found guilty of criminal offenses) are ludicrously high, a continual shame on the so called justice system. And to say that the mission of law enforcement is not to punish people is just a joke. I mean, are you serious? Or does your understanding of how power works in our society end in 6th grade civics class? You are almost guaranteed to be punished by law enforcement in one way or another simply by being a shade darker than white. And that is a fact.
            And your claim that “Most of the people being tried are repeat offenders of violent crimes and they still walk out the door” is insulting. “Most”–really…Wheres your proof of this..dont bother…you have none and you and I both know it. Also, the majority of those tried in court for criminal offenses are nonviolent..ie drugs/theft etc. Once again, you resort to fear mongering to make an invalid claim seem valid. Im calling bullshit.
            Oh and by the way, the phrase is “innocent until proven guilty”, and that goes for repeat offenders as well. But clearly, you are omniscient, and thus see into the darkened hearts of these suspects, knowing fully well the extent of thier crimes as they sashay past you in the courtroom, triumphant once again in proliferating thier corruption throughout the justice system as they “walk out the door”.
            I will add that the only vendetta I have is against those who use their illegitimate power to protect the interests of the wealthy and powerful. And I am neither of those things.

          • dlosthobbit

            You have taken this to exchange to a whole new level. I will not get into an argument in reference to race. I have noticed when people lack the ability to see anyone else's point of view they pull out the race card. People who play the race card when we are not talking about race are just showing their ignorance. I say this not because what you have stated is true or false, but because you bring this issue of race into a forum that has nothing to do with race. For your information, people who are tried on drug and theft charges usually turn into repeat offenders and their crimes escalate into more serious ones. That is a known fact and the court records prove that beyond a doubt. Do you want proof? Please feel free to investigate the crime statistics in the state of Maryland.

            Talk about a simplistic view. You make it sound like all the police do is run around trying to lock people up for fun. I can assure you that is not the case and until you have walked a mile in their shoes, it's not up to you to judge. Furthermore, the court system, recividism rate, and the lack of the court system to do anything but punish people has nothing to with police.

            Let me set the record straight so I don't keep getting all this hate from people. In this case, I am only speaking on behalf of my views of the Maryland State Police and the job they do. I can not and will not speak for any other law enforcement agency. I completely see everyone's opinions and points in relation to some other law enforcement agencies. There are corrupt law enforcement agencies.

            Here's a good question for you and the others who think they have the whole story. Has anyone seen the whole videotape? Of course not because he only posted the part he wanted people to see.

    • tonyviner

      You must be a cop. Or a douchebag. Likely both, they are one and the same. Don't you people ever get tired of all the soldier sniffing and ball-sucking of cops around here?

      • dlosthobbit

        First of all, I am neither of those and I don't think it's necessary for you to be rude just because I don't agree with you. No, I don't get tired of MSP patroling the interstates to make them safer for everyone. I have a great idea. Why don't we just let everyone do whatever they want and see where that gets us? Do me favor, the next time you or your family needs help, don't call on the police. You obviously don't need them.

        • Bryan

          The police are more likely to kill you than protect you, you dipshit. Gun laws prevent people from protecting themselves the way they should. If your family needs help, shoot the motherfucker (or police officer) who’s threatening their lives.

          There was a woman who had to defend her daughter against a swarm of cops who’d come to take her away just because she refused to give her daughter damaging psychopharmaceutical medication that was making her problems worse. For taking her daughter’s health into her hands, she got oppressed by government paid thugs with guns.

          Your retarded support for the police and your constant spouting of lies, followed by changing of the subject every time bullshit is called, it proves how much of a bloody loser you are. Posting dumbshit responses in hopes of swaying people who aren’t going to fall for your bullshit, what the fuck is the point? Have all the fun in the world talking out your frequently cornholed ass, you’re about as important as a child molester.

    • Radical anti-gov

      Sorry you don't see the wrong in this. If the state can videotapep people w/o their consent, so too can you record state employees. Just imagine red light cameras being outlawed, I do not give my consent to be taped yet the states and citied do it all the time. I am not asked to give my consent to be recorded by the police when they stop me for a traffic violation, yet they all do it. What's legal about that gives me the right to tape someone that might violate MY rights.
      You should get your head out of that dark place you evidently have it in.
      Videorightsrule

    • Syntheticchildrenicbm

      Yeah, that sounds great in an ideal world, where ALL LAWS are GOOD LAWS. I personally don't believe the 16 year sentence fits the crime, and that they are trying to make an example of this guy so that other people are too afraid to record video of law enforcement abusing their power. This guy was already recording with his helmet cam when he was pulled over(presumably to impress his friends with his “awesome wheelie”) and the irrational behavior of the civilian clothed officer was just an added finale to the video. This should definitely not hold up in court in your “Ideal World”, we'll see how it plays out…

      • dlosthobbit

        I agree with you completely. The punishment doesn't fit the crime. I'll tell you how it's going to play out. This guy will not spend one minute behind bars, which I don't think he should. The positive note to this is it will give this law as it relates to technology today some much needed assessment. These types of incidents are only going to increase with the advances to technology, so let's see it play out now rather than later.

        • Robp1322

          Fuck cops, Fuck the “laws”. all I do is try and be a decent human and respect others. (except cops and government) If we were all allowed to do what we wanted, you're right maybe it would get crazy, but at least it would be a lot more fun.

    • Haystack

      On the contrary, most of the states where people are being arrested for filming the police don't even have a law explicitly forbidding it. Wiretapping? Journalists record audio/video of people all the time without gaining consent. It boils down to whether a cop making an arrest has a “reasonable expectation of privacy,” which is a question that has not been settled by the courts. Part of the reason for this is that most defendant's prefer to take a plea bargain, rather than risk a FELONY conviction by serving as a test case.

      You might not be doing anything illegal, but if you piss off cop, they can usually find something to charge you with if they're so inclined. Being innocent doesn't spare you the time and money you'll have to spend to defend yourself in court.

      I should also point out that cops themselves are frequently recording their arrests, often to protect *themselves* from liability. Perhaps they should be all be charged with felony wiretapping?

      It's not about us respecting the police. It's about the police respecting the public…you know? The public they're supposed to be answerable to?

      • dlosthobbit

        I understand what you are saying and this defendant just may be the test case. Some cops do record their arrests and my understanding is the person being arrested is being charged with a crime and as long as they are notified they are being recorded, it's legal.

        There is a lack of respect on both parties in many cases. I think many people do not respect police because they don't trust the police. Without trust, there can be no respect. It just bothers me when all cops are put into a group when I know there a lot of good cops with MSP and Baltimore County.

        Thanks for the input.

  • Chibaman

    Screw that. Keep on recording cops. This issue needs to blow up and piss more and more people off.

    What if the Rodney King beating hadn't been recorded? What if Oscar Grant's killing wasn't recorded?

  • malatesting123

    And please correct me if im wrong folks, but werent these the same porcine fellows spying on antiwar activists recently?

  • dlosthobbit

    Fortunately for you, I too am having a hard time finding a more detailed link. You’re right, it’s unfounded, but I believe he was telling the truth. I have given a great deal of thought to your argument about cops not having a dangerous job. My response is police are faced with a possible life threatening situation on each traffic stop they make and every call they respond to. The danger is in the possibility each time of being shot or having to shoot someone else. I know you don’t like the what ifs or possibilities, but the emotional stress would be a killer. I don’t think the trash man is thinking about getting killed everyday he is out collecting trash.

  • Guest

    Call your congressman. We have rights in this country, the police have nothing to fear if there doing nothing wrong. But I agree that’s a sign of a police state, your question the police you go to jail. But let me give you a heads up. The police are civil servants, they get paid the same as a teacher of an engineer.

  • Guest

    Call your congressman. We have rights in this country, the police have nothing to fear if there doing nothing wrong. But I agree that’s a sign of a police state, your question the police you go to jail. But let me give you a heads up. The police are civil servants, they get paid the same as a teacher of an engineer.

  • Bryan

    Very old post, I know… but goddamn man, you are a fucking arguementative genius. You showed the boot-licking cocksucker an arguement he couldn’t possibly combat. Stopped him in his tracks. The garbage man he claimed doesn’t fear for his life like a police officer is actually more likely to die on the job THAN the police officer. The fucking garbage man, at more risk than a cop.

    Makes me wonder if garbage men are violently assaulted by the proud owners of trash. Or if the trash itself kills them. Or if they fall off the back of the truck and crack their heads open or something.

  • Bryan

    The police are more likely to kill you than protect you, you dipshit. Gun laws prevent people from protecting themselves the way they should. If your family needs help, shoot the motherfucker (or police officer) who’s threatening their lives.

    There was a woman who had to defend her daughter against a swarm of cops who’d come to take her away just because she refused to give her daughter damaging psychopharmaceutical medication that was making her problems worse. For taking her daughter’s health into her hands, she got oppressed by government paid thugs with guns.

    Your retarded support for the police and your constant spouting of lies, followed by changing of the subject every time bullshit is called, it proves how much of a bloody loser you are. Posting dumbshit responses in hopes of swaying people who aren’t going to fall for your bullshit, what the fuck is the point? Have all the fun in the world talking out your frequently cornholed ass, you’re about as important as a child molester.

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