Glenn Beck Sez, “The Jews Killed Jesus”

Yes, it’s another day and another piece of drivel from the mouth of Glenn Beck. This time it’s one of the bedrocks of antisemitism — that the Jews killed Jesus. How much longer until this guy overstays his welcome? Does his audience have an infinite capacity to absorb this stuff?

Here’s the story at Gawker:

Dream presidential candidate Glennifer Beck was on his television program last night talking about liberation theology and religion and stuff and he dropped some theological-historical knowledge on us: The Jews killed Jesus! Haven’t you missed that old saw?


Yeah, the “Jews killed Jesus” thing is one of the bedrock “arguments” of antisemitism and Glenn Beck, known Mormon, just up and said it on his variety hour, which is watched by millions of people who lap up his particular brand of horror water like… well, like thirsty Jews wandering in the desert. Beck was also saying some humblybumbly about liberation theology and various other things that he doesn’t really understand, but that’s not worth dignifying. What’s important is Glenn’s important religious thinking when it comes to social justice and the history of his favorite old dude:

This is kind of complex, because Jesus did identify with the victims. But Jesus wasn’t a victim, he was a conqueror. Jesus conquered death. He chose to give his life. Jesus didn’t come back from the dead and make the Jews pay for what they did. That would have been an abomination.

Glenn Beck says this with absolute authority! Because he was there, or something. Or he’s a religion genius, maybe. It’s sort of unclear. That he’s patently cherry picking from the Bible and flat-out making other things up is not something that you should worry about. Here, don’t you want to buy some gold? (You know who likes gold? JEWS.)…

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  • 5by5

    Douche.

  • Cerebralcaustic

    For Beck to claim that Jews killed Jesus is bad. But it's okay to disparage Beck as a “known Mormon”? Double-standards hardly bolster an argument.

    In fact, many Jewish sources took credit for killing Jesus, who they regarded as a blasphemous impostor. As historian Israel Shahak, a Polish Jew, wrote, “According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.” Jewish History, Jewish Religion, 1994, pp. 97.

    • E.B. Wolf

      What have you got against Mormons that you consider identifying a person as one a disparaging remark?

      • A bad joke

        Haha, now thats 'fair and balanced'

      • Myjohnsonis12incheslong

        Nothing, other than that they are batshit crazy 

    • Haystack

      Whether the statement is factual or not is not the issue–the issue is what is implicit in it.

      What if I go on TV and say “white people committed the holocaust” or “white people pillaged Africa and enslaved its people?” Saying “the Jews” killed Jesus carries the implication that people living today should be punished or looked down upon for something that might have happened 2,000 years ago.

      By any reasonable account, if Jesus existed at all, there were both Jews and gentiles responsible for his death…so, really, “we,” the human race, killed him.

    • Conniedobbs

      OOO this is late, I know, but it's to show bias. Christians (and mormons, who are entirely separate) should be used to getting slagged – after all, they've been doing it to other religions for 2000 years. Sorry, but the christian church has really got to learn how to get as good as it gave.

  • http://thefirstchurchofmutterhals.blogspot.com/ mutterhals

    I killed Jesus, and I'm a gypsy.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Also in shocking news…in ancient Rome, Romans killed Romans, in southern Africa, Africans killed Africans, in ancient Asia Asians killed Asians, and in what later became the 'New World' native peoples killed native peoples.

    Attaching symbolic value to a story about a crowd of unemployed rabble from a Jewish neighborhood in a Jewish city under Roman control is stupidity piled on stupidity.

    An equally valid claim would be that unemployed, religiously conservative death penalty advocates with time to kill are responsible for Jesus' death…with the fact that they were Jewish being irrelevant because so was everyone else in the city. Likewise the possibility that Orthodox religious leaders used their influence to arrange for Jesus's removal…because wealthy established people hate reformers who criticize them. Liberals like Jesus were essentially assassinated for challenging the system. In a way, you could say the 'Glenn Becks' of ancient Israel killed Jesus.

    But at the end of the day, its a heavily edited storybook that this is based on…putting too much faith in the written words of men who had agendas when they did the writing and editing is never smart…then or now.

  • http://www.almoststanding.blogspot.com Caron

    I got this rad mental image of like, a burned out wasteland, destroyed playgrounds, human skulls everywhere, the dilapidated husks of buildings all over the place…and Sarah Conner's voiceover being like “and then the Jews faced a new nightmare: the war against Jesus” *DUN-DUN-DUN-DUNDUN-DUN-DUN-DUN-DUNDUN*

    And then a T-800 with a beard and a robe rises out of mass of rubble and just starts shooting lasers at fleeing Jews everywhere.

    “The Jews killed Jesus…OR DID THEY?! DUN-DUN-DUN DUNDUN”

    • A bad joke

      And then did Robo-Jesus say unto them: “Hasta la vista, baby.”

  • justagirl

    god killed jesus.

  • Belcat

    What an idiot. if Jesus had not been killed, he would not have been the almighty messiah he is [in his religion]. So indeed if the Jews did kill him (and not the Romans, since they put him on the cross), then the Jews should be thanked for fulfilling the prophesy. Assuming he his who he is, he would have been killed by someone else anyway, according to prophesy. All he really proves is he's an idiot on many levels.

    • Smith

      Religion were created to divide people to concur

  • Alech

    Do these people really think that Jesus would still be around if it hadn't been for that pesky crucifixion?
    Because if a couple of nails can kill your god, he would probably have had a typical human response to disease and old age as well.

  • perniciousknid

    I found Jesus. He's in the trunk of my Cadillac.

  • DeepCough

    It's been approximately over 2,000 years: Jesus is dead, get over it already.

    • Haystack

      We just need to wait *a little longer.* He might still make good on his promise to return.

      • DeepCough

        Maybe the Rapture already happened–and everyone got LEFT BEHIND.

    • MoMo

      That is if Jesus ever existed in order to die in the first place. His “history” is mostly an article of faith.

  • Pmwnorton
  • Bryan

    Beck refers to “… what our founders called 'Natural Law' and 'Nature's God' …,” and worries that … “a perversion of God is extraordinarily dangerous.” Seems to me, Beck's the one doin' the pervertin'

    For some amazing insight into the subject, check out two books by Robert Anton Wilson that I'm fairly certain that Beck hasn't read: NATURAL LAW (Breakout Publications) and NATURE'S GOD (New Falcon).

    Wilson quotes John Adams: “The question before the human race is, whether the God of Nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles.”

    And Nietzche: “What is strong wins, that is the universal law. If only it were not so often what is stupid and evil!”

  • I'veSeenItBefore

    Until revenue is not job 1 the world will continue to get wack jobs like Glenn on the media. He brings in the bucks for Fox. I am sure that Hitler, another wack job, brought in the advertising bucks before he became Chancellor of Germany.

    • Haystack

      Beck is too wimpy to cut it as a fascist dictator, but I do think his ideology is what American fascism would look like. Right now we have the luxury of dismissing these people as wingnuts, but a major crisis, such as a large-scale economic meltdown or destruction of a major city, could provide an opportunity for someone to seize power. I would picture a lesser known figure, someone with a bit of bravado like Stanley McChrystal, taking power, while the Becks and Palins sing his praises.

      The people who watch Fox represent a declining segment of society–the white Christians who are have traditionally been privileged, but are now being threatened as minorities gain power, influence, and numbers. They see themselves as the “real” Americans being marginalized in “their own country.” In a prosperous future, power will shift peacefully, but if things get too rocky, they'll try to “take their country back” by force, and we'll have to stop them.

  • Andy

    Certainly you will all regret these comments you have made in the judgment day
    I honestly feel sorry for you
    Believe it or not, Jesus is alive and He is God
    Though the whole world is turning against Him
    I will take my stand by His side

    Blessed be His name

    • Haystack

      On Judgement Day God is going to bring up the comments I've posted on Disinfo?

      Really?

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      If he's everything you say, then he'll be happy to forgive us.

      Jesus, more than any other deity, should be aware of the faults and foibles which God has saddled man with.

      With his infinite love and grace he would understand that the paragons of Christianity that were supposed to be our wise teachers and role models have fallen pathetically short of their intended goals.

      Indeed, many who claim to be God's emissaries spread only ignorance and hate, discrediting the very spiritual values they claim to advocate.

      I think Jesus will be a little flexible judging us, given what resources we have to base our decision on.

      In fact, given the paucity of evidence for the contemporary Christian position, it may seem obvious to him that anyone who currently subscribes to that camp has ulterior motives, whereas those who have remained noncommittal have demonstrated the qualities that Jesus is truly searching for in men..

    • justagirl

      LOL! i'm sure you will.

    • Conniedobbs

      Actually, no. Jesus is alive, but he's not God, only God's pool boy. And since he and I have gone into business together, providing our cleaning services (as well as *ahem* other services as needed), it will be ME taking my stand by his side when he comes down to earth to judge mankind.

      He will be judging you based upon the ph balance of your pool, as well as its general cleanliness and presentation. Points will be added for “classy” pool toys, such as lounge chairs and a water polo net, and deducted for anything that resembles a floating turd. Only those who have pools rated a 7 or higher on the “jC Scale” will be admitted into heaven.

      PS I know some of you think this is silly or fake, but if you've ever seen the condition of the pools in heaven, you'd completely understand. They're immaculate, and God would rather send a million more plagues of locusts to earth than risk some retarded kid taking a crap in the heavenly spa. And THAT, ladies and gentleman, is why Sarah Palin's name was taken off of heaven's guestlist.

  • Oneloveinus

    I'm guessing at best right now if the world is turning anywhere, it's turning towards Jesus. The world has always been against Jesus, if it wasn't the people in his time that had him physically killed, or the fanaticals who killed his early followers, or Satan himself devising some scheme to trick everyone to be less of a “Christian.” Never has the world or a time in human history acted devotely to the principles put forth by the character of Jesus. Now that we have come to this nexus there remains only one other option.

  • MoMo

    This sort of hogwash just makes Christopher Hitchens' conclusions seem all the more valid. Religion does really poison everything. With their assaults on radical black churches, it seems like Beck is just launching another religious warfare right in front of our very eyes. The political right in this country seems deadset on doing what the political right has done in the Middle East for centuries: turn brother against brother and reduce us to feudalism and ignorance.

    • Haystack

      I disagree. I think people generally use religion to justify what they're already predisposed to do. You have people like Glen Beck, but you also have people like Martin Luther King, for whom religion meant compassion and social change. And when you take religion out, things don't necessarily get better. The French revolution and USSR were both officially atheistic, yet they managed to be every bit as terrible as any theocracy in acting upon their ideologies.

      People like Beck are hateful to start out with, and if they didn't have religion, they'd find some other reason to denounce those who are different from them.

      • Wwmuir

        You do realize that the two of you (Momo and Haystack) are in agreement, don’t you?

  • Monkeymoo

    Glenn Beck is the fattest cunt in the world. Sorry about the language but there's just no other way of putting it.

  • Synapse

    For the past 2000 years, there has been only one whom has suffered on behalf of everyone and turned their cheek in all that time despite torture and persecution, and that was the Jews. The Jews were better at being Jesus than Jesus was at being a Jew (i.e. how he was utterly insane if you read beyond the church approved sermons).

  • Neo2012

    Actually, Caiafus the high priest at that time and his father in law Annas had Yeshua killed. Caiafus held the position of high priest longer than any other priest in history 18 years, his father in law Annas was high priest prior, but was fired from that position because he was using capital punishment which had been forbidden by the Romans. Although Annas was a member of the Sanhedrin and an obvious influence on Caiafus. When Yeshua, (Jesus), very quickly had supporters growing to follow him, he was taking away the followers from Caiafus. In the year 36ad, Caiafus lost his job, that same year Pontius Pilate who was the Roman governor who found no fault with Yeshua commited suicide in Rome. This is all historical fact, not from the bible. The Jews did not kill Christ, GREEDY/POWERFUL Jews manipulated the Romans into allowing them to have Christ crucified.

    • booboo

      without that crucifixtion there would have been no savior. Christians should be thankful to the jews, who fullfilled the prophesies that gave them their messiah.

  • Akhman

    So blaming Jews for Killing Jesus is 'hateful' and “Anti-Semitic” despite the fact that many scholars and historians beleive this? However, blaming Romans is okay because……

    No wonder America is the joke of the entire world. It is full of cowards and wimps who will never say anything bad about Israel or Jews no matter how necessary- the control by AIPAC, their influence in Hollywood and Wall St, Israel's attack on Turkish boats, etc.

    But…what does one expect from the rejects of White Trash Europeans.

  • BlesedGreenFairy

    Christians of this sort miss the whole point of what was taught in the Old Testament as regards blood sacrifice. They pick & choose the scriptures about tithing and against homosexuality, but completely miss those that entail eternal redemption. It was not the priest who slaughtered the animal. It was the head of the house. Unless YOU slaughtered YOUR OWN animal to sacrifice to God, you weren’t covered by its blood. Animal blood was symbolic of the future blood of the Messiah to be shed. If Glenn Beck is denying he had anything to do with killing Jesus, he is denying that he’s covered in the blood of the lamb. Jews and Gentiles gave Jesus back and forth to each other so that they were all guilty of his demise without being totally to blame. It all happened so that EVERYONE could have a chance at redemption. I know this shit and I’m fucking agnostic! Read your damn Bible, Glenn.

  • BlesedGreenFairy

    Christians of this sort miss the whole point of what was taught in the Old Testament as regards blood sacrifice. They pick & choose the scriptures about tithing and against homosexuality, but completely miss those that entail eternal redemption. It was not the priest who slaughtered the animal. It was the head of the house. Unless YOU slaughtered YOUR OWN animal to sacrifice to God, you weren't covered by its blood. Animal blood was symbolic of the future blood of the Messiah to be shed. If Glenn Beck is denying he had anything to do with killing Jesus, he is denying that he's covered in the blood of the lamb. Jews and Gentiles gave Jesus back and forth to each other so that they were all guilty of his demise without being totally to blame. It all happened so that EVERYONE could have a chance at redemption. I know this shit and I'm fucking agnostic! Read your damn Bible, Glenn.

  • booboo

    without that crucifixtion there would have been no savior. Christians should be thankful to the jews, who fullfilled the prophesies that gave them their messiah.

  • YochananDavidNaf

    The ruling dynasty of the Herod’s were Edomites and Herod the Great, was an ldumean, http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_was_King_Herod Biography Herod the Great arose from a wealthy, influential Idumaean family. The Idumaeans, successors to the Edomites of the Hebrew Bible, settled in Idumea, formerly known as Edom, in southern Judea. When the Maccabean John Hyrcanus conquered Idumea in 130-140 BC, he required all Idumaeans to obey Jewish law or to leave; most Idumaeans thus converted to Judaism.

    King Herod identified himself as Jewish and was considered as such by his contemperies [1], although according to The Torah, he would not be considered as such.

    Edom: (red) the name Edom was given to Esau, the first-born son of Isaac and twin brother of Jacob, when he sold his birthright to the latter for a meal of lentil pottage. The country which The Most High subsequently gave to Esau was hence called “the country of Edom” and his descendants were called Edomites. Edom was called Mount Seir and Idumea also.

    Book of Jashar (Biblical ref) “Then David lamented with this lamentation over Saul and over Jonathan his son, and he told them to teach the children of Judah the Song of the Bow; indeed it is written in the Book of Jasher” (II Samuel 1:17-18). Jasher 27:1-11 says that Esau kills Nimrod and takes Adams skins which made him a mighty warrier.

    The Edomites are the descendants of Edom, i.e., Esau, according to Genesis 36:1-19. And according to Numbers 20:14-21, the Hebrews were refused permission to pass inviolate through Edom.Saul ben-Kish, anointed first king of Yisrayl, fought against the Edomites, I Samuel 14:47; “for YHVH so hated the Amalekites (descendants of Esau) that He commanded Saul to have no pity on them — not even the women and children — but to blot out the name of Amalek entirely.” And according to I Kings 11:15,16, King David defeated the Edomites;

    The Edomites became the vassals of the Assyrians, but attempted revolutions in 711 and 701 BC. And the Edomites allied themselves with Nebuchadnezzar when he destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BC, according to Psalm 137:7, which says, “Remember, O Most High, what the Edomites did on the day Jerusalem fell. ‘Tear it down,’ they cried, ‘tear it down to its foundations!’” Nebuchadnezzar ceded portions to the Edomites after the fall of Jerusalem. This fulfilled the prophecy of Jeremiah in Jeremiah 49; and explains why Jeremiah had been exhorting the Hebrews to destroy the Edomites. Lamentations 4:21, Amos 1:11,12, and Obadiah 8-10, all prophecy the destruction of Edom.

    Phoenicians ” or ” Phoinikes ” ” Phoinik-as ” Phoinike “from phoinix, “red purple”, and it also explained the use of Hebrew kn’ny for “merchant.”is the name the Greeks gave the people of KENITES. Phoenicians were Canaanites , they cannot be differentiated either ethnically or culturally , from the general people of the Canaanites. Tyre and Sidon were the most powerful of the Phoenician states in the Levant. The Dead Sea Scrolls are written using the Phoenician alphabet. In the Inscription of King Eshmunazor of Sidon, COS 2.57, 4-13, he refer to deified royal ancestors of Canaanite kings, as their Phoenicians ancestors.

    In Josephus’ book quotes from Ammonius, an ancient grammarian who said: “The Judeans were such by nature from the beginning, whilst the Idumeans were not Judeans from the beginning, but Phonecians and Syrians; by being subdued by the Judeans and compelled to be circumcised, and to unite into one nation, they were subject to the same laws and became known as Judeans.”

    Josephus, From ANTIQUITY OF THE JEWS, Book 13, Ch. 9, Par. 1, writing about 95 A.D. said:

    “Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idume (Edom) and subdued all the Idumeans (Edomites); and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would be circumcised and make use of the laws of the Judeans; they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and the rest of the Judean ways of living; at which time – - . they were hereafter no other than Judeans.”

    Herod and the “Herodians” were of Esau, and sought to destroy Yahushua.They will never accept Yahushua as the Messiah.

    * Matthew 2:1-22

    * Mark 12:13

    * Matthew 22:16

    * Mark 8:15

    In I Chronicles 2:55 , The Kenites moved into Jerusalem and were now figured with the title of ” Scribes” .

    In 1 Maccabees {2:42} {7:12, 13} The Scribes ,again , [ who where The Kenites ] , joined a party of men called ,the Zealous Assideans . The Scribes, quickly through their public realignments words , acquired a great influence over the Hebrew people ,while the Levi priesthood ,lost’s its prestige.

    Under the Asmonean rule the Sopherim ,The Scribes ,became the leaders of a new party called , ” The Pharisees ” When The Pharisees seize authority from the Levi priests, the “traditions of the elders” replace YHVH Laws. The Pharisees created the Beth Din ha-Gadol (Great Legislature) as a lawmaking,law-transmitting and law-confirming body – an institution they did not learn of from scripture.

    Esau’s decendents through rule and cruelty inacted the “teaching for doctrines the commandments of men” which Yeshua spoke of. “Pharisaic Judaism through Esau has the principal features — the synagogue, the rabbi, prayer, Torah study, and belief in the oral law, (Same is true for many “christian” and other type faiths were someone else intereprets for a week/weak (both apply) god(s). In other words. You are an idiot and this god cannot help you, but I can. You have no idea what is right or wrong and have no means of understanding, except by me. Basically utter crap according to Yeshua and Moses

  • YochananDavidNaf

    The ruling dynasty of the Herod’s were Edomites and Herod the Great, was an ldumean, http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_was_King_Herod Biography Herod the Great arose from a wealthy, influential Idumaean family. The Idumaeans, successors to the Edomites of the Hebrew Bible, settled in Idumea, formerly known as Edom, in southern Judea. When the Maccabean John Hyrcanus conquered Idumea in 130-140 BC, he required all Idumaeans to obey Jewish law or to leave; most Idumaeans thus converted to Judaism.

    King Herod identified himself as Jewish and was considered as such by his contemperies [1], although according to The Torah, he would not be considered as such.

    Edom: (red) the name Edom was given to Esau, the first-born son of Isaac and twin brother of Jacob, when he sold his birthright to the latter for a meal of lentil pottage. The country which The Most High subsequently gave to Esau was hence called “the country of Edom” and his descendants were called Edomites. Edom was called Mount Seir and Idumea also.

    Book of Jashar (Biblical ref) “Then David lamented with this lamentation over Saul and over Jonathan his son, and he told them to teach the children of Judah the Song of the Bow; indeed it is written in the Book of Jasher” (II Samuel 1:17-18). Jasher 27:1-11 says that Esau kills Nimrod and takes Adams skins which made him a mighty warrier.

    The Edomites are the descendants of Edom, i.e., Esau, according to Genesis 36:1-19. And according to Numbers 20:14-21, the Hebrews were refused permission to pass inviolate through Edom.Saul ben-Kish, anointed first king of Yisrayl, fought against the Edomites, I Samuel 14:47; “for YHVH so hated the Amalekites (descendants of Esau) that He commanded Saul to have no pity on them — not even the women and children — but to blot out the name of Amalek entirely.” And according to I Kings 11:15,16, King David defeated the Edomites;

    The Edomites became the vassals of the Assyrians, but attempted revolutions in 711 and 701 BC. And the Edomites allied themselves with Nebuchadnezzar when he destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BC, according to Psalm 137:7, which says, “Remember, O Most High, what the Edomites did on the day Jerusalem fell. ‘Tear it down,’ they cried, ‘tear it down to its foundations!’” Nebuchadnezzar ceded portions to the Edomites after the fall of Jerusalem. This fulfilled the prophecy of Jeremiah in Jeremiah 49; and explains why Jeremiah had been exhorting the Hebrews to destroy the Edomites. Lamentations 4:21, Amos 1:11,12, and Obadiah 8-10, all prophecy the destruction of Edom.

    Phoenicians ” or ” Phoinikes ” ” Phoinik-as ” Phoinike “from phoinix, “red purple”, and it also explained the use of Hebrew kn’ny for “merchant.”is the name the Greeks gave the people of KENITES. Phoenicians were Canaanites , they cannot be differentiated either ethnically or culturally , from the general people of the Canaanites. Tyre and Sidon were the most powerful of the Phoenician states in the Levant. The Dead Sea Scrolls are written using the Phoenician alphabet. In the Inscription of King Eshmunazor of Sidon, COS 2.57, 4-13, he refer to deified royal ancestors of Canaanite kings, as their Phoenicians ancestors.

    In Josephus’ book quotes from Ammonius, an ancient grammarian who said: “The Judeans were such by nature from the beginning, whilst the Idumeans were not Judeans from the beginning, but Phonecians and Syrians; by being subdued by the Judeans and compelled to be circumcised, and to unite into one nation, they were subject to the same laws and became known as Judeans.”

    Josephus, From ANTIQUITY OF THE JEWS, Book 13, Ch. 9, Par. 1, writing about 95 A.D. said:

    “Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idume (Edom) and subdued all the Idumeans (Edomites); and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would be circumcised and make use of the laws of the Judeans; they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and the rest of the Judean ways of living; at which time – - . they were hereafter no other than Judeans.”

    Herod and the “Herodians” were of Esau, and sought to destroy Yahushua.They will never accept Yahushua as the Messiah.

    * Matthew 2:1-22

    * Mark 12:13

    * Matthew 22:16

    * Mark 8:15

    In I Chronicles 2:55 , The Kenites moved into Jerusalem and were now figured with the title of ” Scribes” .

    In 1 Maccabees {2:42} {7:12, 13} The Scribes ,again , [ who where The Kenites ] , joined a party of men called ,the Zealous Assideans . The Scribes, quickly through their public realignments words , acquired a great influence over the Hebrew people ,while the Levi priesthood ,lost’s its prestige.

    Under the Asmonean rule the Sopherim ,The Scribes ,became the leaders of a new party called , ” The Pharisees ” When The Pharisees seize authority from the Levi priests, the “traditions of the elders” replace YHVH Laws. The Pharisees created the Beth Din ha-Gadol (Great Legislature) as a lawmaking,law-transmitting and law-confirming body – an institution they did not learn of from scripture.

    Esau’s decendents through rule and cruelty inacted the “teaching for doctrines the commandments of men” which Yeshua spoke of. “Pharisaic Judaism through Esau has the principal features — the synagogue, the rabbi, prayer, Torah study, and belief in the oral law, (Same is true for many “christian” and other type faiths were someone else intereprets for a week/weak (both apply) god(s). In other words. You are an idiot and this god cannot help you, but I can. You have no idea what is right or wrong and have no means of understanding, except by me. Basically utter crap according to Yeshua and Moses

  • Michael Wade

    I could’nt agree that Jesus was a conquerer any more than this. Thats why I hate Jesus Christ.

  • Michael Wade

    I could’nt agree that Jesus was a conquerer any more than this. Thats why I hate Jesus Christ.

  • Jbocadk

    Sick sick man

  • Jbocadk

    Sick sick man

  • hurr durr

    Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. matthew 19:24

    see? i can cherry pick too :P

  • hurr durr

    Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. matthew 19:24

    see? i can cherry pick too :P

  • Wwmuir

    You do realize that the two of you (Momo and Haystack) are in agreement, don’t you?

  • Myjohnsonis12incheslong

    Nothing, other than that they are batshit crazy 

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