Oliver Stone Infuriates The Jewish Media

Stone at the 66th Venice International Film Festival, 2009When will the media learn that certain moviemakers are habitual gadflies who can’t resist winding up journalists with some timely, controversial statements that will afford them way more publicity than the craziest Hollywood marketing budget could dream of? Oliver Stone, whose 10-hour television documentary “A Secret History of America” will air this year on Showtime, chose the British Sunday Times to launch his latest assault. The Times is a Murdoch rag that’s placed its content behind a pay wall. The National Post grabbed this excerpt:

The 10-part documentary [which Stone is planning] will address Stalin and Hitler “in context”, he says. “Hitler was a Frankenstein but there was also a Dr Frankenstein. German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support.”

He also seeks to put his atrocities in proportion: “Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30m.”

Why such a focus on the Holocaust then? “The Jewish domination of the media,” he says. “There’s a major lobby in the United States. They are hard workers. They stay on top of every comment, the most powerful lobby in Washington. Israel has f***** up United States foreign policy for years.”

Just to ensure wide coverage, Stone made sure to push a couple of other hot button issues, as reported by MSNBC:

If that weren’t enough, Stone also defended Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whom he met recently.

“Iran isn’t necessarily the good guy,” he said in the Times interview. “But we don’t know the full story.” Stone said U.S. policy toward Iran was “horrible.” (In 2007, Ahmadinejad rejected a proposal by the Oscar-winning director to make a film about him, calling Stone part of the “Great Satan” — America.)

Stone also praised Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez — subject of his “South of the Border” documentary — as “a brave, blunt, earthy [man].”

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  • Hadrian999

    let no one question the blank check.

  • 5by5

    Actually, it's a specific type of Jewish lobby, namely AIPAC, which advocates hard-line conservatism that even most Israelis don't buy into, but the lobby is so powerful that there is actually more complex discussion and varied views hashed out in Israel, than there is here. Jewish Liberals and peace activists who wish to advance the peace process basically NEVER get a say in the American media.

    Stone, like every other man, is correct about some things, and incorrect about others. Ahmadinejad is actually a douche, but he doesn't have the power that Washington conservatives who love to whip up panic would have you believe. And Chavez actually IS a good guy who has done a lot more to help his country than the last several hundred years worth of American-backed leaders in that country have.

    And Russia did suffer obscene amounts of lost life in the war. Lives no less valuable than the Jewish lives that were lost. Or the homosexuals who died in those same camps right alongside the Jews.

    So there you have it. Not everything is cut and dry. Most of life is about nuance and complexity. Which is unfortunate in a sound-bite driven media.

    • Hadrian999

      i used to be a chavez fan but he sounds like he has taken a running leap off the deep end lately.

      • George Wachinton's Ghost

        That certainly is how he has been framed in western MSM. I bet he sounds much different in full reality then in easily manipulated sound bytes.

        • Hadrian999

          i 'd like to see a long version about the thing with bolivars bones that doesnt sound crazy

      • Your Mom

        I'm glad you're seeing the light, but the sad truth is that Chavez was always in the deep end. It only seems like he's taken a leap lately because, well, because history has a way of repeating itself.

        Marxist/socialist/communist rhetoric can sound truly appealing … but the only way to implement Marxist ideology is by force, because Marxism doesn't care about individual rights. Your rights, my rights, don't matter in Marxism. The ideology matters, and Marxist True Believers will use violence, oppression, censorship and murder to support their ideology. It's happened in each and every Marxist nation, from Soviet Russia to Maoist China to Chavez's Venezuela.

        Despite the claims of its devotees, violence is built into Marxism: ““We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.” Karl Marx (1849)

        • Hadrian999

          the problem is no form of government can exist without violence,
          capitalism has just as much blood on it's hands as communism does
          the capitalists are just better at perception management.

        • tonyviner

          You gotta do what you gotta do.

          • tonyviner

            Furthermore, why is it that when it comes to socialism people are so intent on staying stuck in the past? Sure, it is important to remember where things have gone wrong and take the necessary steps to avoid repeating them. The end result of what I envision socialism to be is a lot better for the world and the people in it than what seems to be coming under capitalism. People have a hard time sharing and taking care of one another, it gets in the way of watching football and making fun of retarded people, which is the world we are currently in, and that is my watered-down, PG version of it. It then is easy to understand why this form of living (I don't really say government in regards to this because the plan is that it will become irrelevant) is seen as unattainable, violent and just plain wrong. It is because the moneyed interests that are currently strangling the life out of our planet would have no place in it, unless of course they wanted to pick up a rake and join us in the fields, otherwise fuck 'em.

    • Your Mom

      “Chavez actually IS a good guy who has done a lot more to help his country than the last several hundred years worth of American-backed leaders in that country have.”

      ???

      Chavez is a devotee of Leon-Let's-Kill-Everyone-Trotsky, who helped plan the Red Terror of the early 1920s:

      “As for us, we were never concerned with the Kantian-priestly and vegetarian-Quaker prattle about the ‘sacredness of human life.’” Leon Trotsky, “Terrorism and Communism: A Reply to Karl Kautsky” (1920)

  • Laffer

    glenbek is an asshole

  • Hadrian999

    i never really cared for his movies but he is a master at working the media

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  • Stealthought

    “Specific type of Jewish lobby”….????? LOLOOLOLOLOLO!!!

    Most Jews support their government actions and policies, that is why they still in power…

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  • Your Mom

    So when Glenn Beck makes “anti-Semitic” comments, he's a bad boy.

    But when Oliver Stone “infuriates the Jewish media,” he's a good boy.

    WTF?

    I guess it's okay to criticize Jews or Israel if you're doing so from a distinctly leftist perspective, and defending dictators like Chavez in the same breath…

    • Hadrian999

      insulting jews and insulting israel isn't the same thing.
      israel wants everyone to think questioning them is religious bigotry.
      it's a good scam but one I hope more people start to see through.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      I hate to break it to you, but if we treated all rogue nuclear states, with corrupt propaganda media, a police state that beats and arrests its journalists and protesters, illegally occupying land in violation of dozens of UN Resolutions, known to employ assassination, bombings and more world wide,…exactly the same as any other nation who did these things…

      Israel would be on the same list as N. Korea and Iran…or after the attack on the USS Liberty, a smoking crater with a half life of several million years.

      There's a difference between anti-Semitism…the belief that race or racial characteristics impact a human beings worth…and disagreeing with the government or media machinery surrounding the nation of Israel. People mixing the two…mostly because of AIPAC's lobbying to blur the line between political disagreement and racism…happens so often as to boggle the mind.

      I excuse nothing…from any nation…I just wish that people weren't so easily gulled into giving one nation a “get out of jail free” pass for any crime they commit. It isn't healthy, or sane, and much of Israel's worst conduct is probably, in part, America's fault…because we've facilitated their ability to get away with blatant international crimes. Take that blanket protection away and they might play nice with the other kids in the sandbox.

  • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

    Our relationship to Israel is dangerous, but this sentiment is profoundly stupid:

    He also seeks to put his atrocities in proportion: “Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30m.”

    Saying the Holocaust is “not as bad” as whatever happened to someone else is misguided and undermines those who suffered. I don't like what Israel is up to these days, but the Holocaust was a fucking nightmare.

  • guest51

    The Jews which are all white honkeys would like this world to believe that the original Jewish tribes that were around 3000 years ago were all white honkeys. Any idiot would know that the original Jewish tribes would be of the Arabic race.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    AIPAC and its subsidiaries…the entire American mainstream media…will be upset over anything that doesn't pass the Kosher litmus test. Manufactured shock and fake outrage are old hat. Where most of us differ from Stone is that we wouldn't give so much credence to Ahmadinejad or Chavez (since anyone executing media clampdowns ALWAYS fails my litmus test) at least he's out front and using his influence to get attention to the dirty side of American politics. The little inconsistencies that our MSM gloss over and forget about when they're busy delivering their state sponsored propaganda. Small wonder they're ready to pounce his ass over historical fact.

    No one likes to remember that major industrialists here and abroad LOVED the Nazi's…including Henry Ford and Prescott Bush…right up until the war was thoroughly underway and men in dark suits came to talk with them about whether or not they'd like a grey bar hotel stay. Pity most other people don't get such consideration…but apparently millions of dollars actually can reduce your risk of being tortured until you confess until it down to merely apologizing about the misunderstanding and getting on with the rest of your day.

    Stone may drop the ball here and there…but at least he's out there playing the game on the side of open coverage instead of propaganda.

  • Lord Elgin

    Well it seems totally normal that Stone says that. The fact is that america is in reality a slave nation to Israel, the real masters of America are the Jews and so why should they care about the russians who died, what matters to them is that everybody feels horrible for them and their holocaust not for all the soldiers who died, be them americans, russians, french, english,… and the fact Iran doesn't really like Israel make it also clear why the media (aka the jews) like to demonize Iran…

    • Haystack

      You're an idiot.

  • tonyviner

    I usually like Oliver Stone's work, but I have a hard time believing that anything worth knowing is gonna just be on TV all willy nilly.

  • Anonymous

    Furthermore, why is it that when it comes to socialism people are so intent on staying stuck in the past? Sure, it is important to remember where things have gone wrong and take the necessary steps to avoid repeating them. The end result of what I envision socialism to be is a lot better for the world and the people in it than what seems to be coming under capitalism. People have a hard time sharing and taking care of one another, it gets in the way of watching football and making fun of retarded people, which is the world we are currently in, and that is my watered-down, PG version of it. It then is easy to understand why this form of living (I don’t really say government in regards to this because the plan is that it will become irrelevant) is seen as unattainable, violent and just plain wrong. It is because the moneyed interests that are currently strangling the life out of our planet would have no place in it, unless of course they wanted to pick up a rake and join us in the fields, otherwise fuck ‘em.

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