• http://disinfo.com ralph

    Anyone who thinks the Moon landings were faked, as Richard Hoagland has claimed, either has a tenuous grip on reality or an obscene misunderstanding of the physical sciences. I am skeptical of anything this guy says.

    • Klaatu

      Not aware he's ever said the entire landing mission was “faked.” Elements manipulated, information suppressed does not amount to claiming the entire landing was faked. Ralph the genius is “skeptical.” What a kidder.

      • http://disinfo.com ralph

        That's exactly the point, the so-called manipulated evidence he presents in such tomes as “Dark Mission” does make any sense when scrutinized. I'm not saying we have the whole story but I strongly doubt any reliable information is being presented to the public by Hoagland.

        • Hadrian999

          works on deadites too

        • EdHiero

          It makes plenty of sense. Astronauts walking among crystalline structures that somebody doesn't want them to talk about. Attempting to keep things secret is the way of the human world.

        • Klaatu

          The POINT is, you said Hoagland claimed the moon landings were faked. He never said any such thing. The point is, just because you disagree with his findings, it doesn't mean he's a “fraud.” Some of what he claims makes sense, to me, other claims no so convincing. So what? Do you think NASA's telling us the truth? Hoagland's not the one-and-ONLY authority on NASA, but he knows a helluva lot more than the rest of us put together. Give credit where credit is due.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RR3TD3HX4NLB3JADTFJPL35BGY Mark

            Hoagland is a self-promoting fraud, in spite of his education and experience. Presidents, generals, cardinals, and kings can be just as insane and delusional as anyone on the street. Just because they hold or held an important position doesn’t exclude them from being mental, or just a con artist.

    • EdHiero

      Hoagland never claimed the moon landings were faked. Because that would disprove the evidence that he claims to have of astronauts walking among crystalline structures there, so it looks like someone needs to check their facts a bit more.

    • Chris

      Hoagland not only doesn’t think the landings were faked, he insists they were real. You don’t know anything.

      Having said that, Hoagland is, nonetheless, a complete sham.

  • Ug

    Hoagland has been a longtime and crank and charlatan but for sheer entertainment value and staying power you've got to respect him. Or at least enjoy what he's bringing to people. I look at him more as a type of carnival performer. And his hairdo fits right in. The guy is actually quite bright he just has a weird almost demonic need to be in the public spotlight.

    • Klaatu

      Specifically, what do you disagree with, besides his hairdo? You seem to know very little about Richard Hoagland. In fact, you don't seem to know much about anything. Why the weird, almost demonic need to make irrelevant, personal remarks in the public spotlight about people you don't know, speaking to issues you have no interest in understanding? Is this the best Disinfo can do? Not exactly the best and the brightest, is it.

      • Drjettrink

        Sorry. I dont mean to disappoint you, or pile on, but Hoagland is a fraud. Period. I have followed his “work” for years and spent several of those wanting to believe him. But it is just impossible for a thinking person to believe or support any of the lies or manipulations that he and his “Enterprise Mission” have been a part of.

        He is the lowest of the low, unfortunately.

        • EdHiero

          You don't give a bit of evidence other than personal opinion in your post.

        • Klaatu

          Once again we have generalized snide remarks backed-up with zero specifics. What “lies.” What “manipulations.” This is a professional “disinfo” trick: Vague accusations unsupported by a single statement of fact.

      • Ug

        Who said I disagree with Hoagland's hairdo? How does one disagree with a hairdo? What comments were irrelevant? What issues do I have no interest in understanding? Please explain.

        • Klaatu

          You're the one who brought up his hair, obviously you didn't mean it as a compliment. You said he was a crank, a charlatan, and a carnival performer, without a single fact or anecdote to support what amounts to an unsolicited slam. Biased comments containing no useful information are “irrelevant.”

          You appear to have no serious interest in exopolitics, the subject of the Hoagland-Greer interview and topic of this thread — remember?

  • http://twitter.com/at2rty bremont Alfredo

    it sounds interesting however it is the question of technology, were things are not clear, as an alien ship to get here will use a different time frame, therefore its technology will not apply to us. in other words they travel differently than we do. to get from here to there they travel via a time dimension that is linear, we travel on circular time dimension. 'atom' meaning spherical. we exist on a spherical time frame. we call recurrence, a wheel for intense an jet engine turns circular. the moon goes around the sun, we exist on a spherical reasoning frame-work. they don't.
    they get here via a time related moment so when they reach planet earth they see us but they cannot contact us because of the time relation. however we can see perhaps their craft or we can have signals and symbols regarding their existence. physically they will be something like a soul, ethereal, or consciousness, non material. reason is time. it would be like you great grandfather is alive now, well he will exist but his material body would not be visible however his soul, mind or consciousness will. so they leap between the past and the future. it is the actual were they have a problem. to reason is because to get here their own time subtracts the actual. well long story until next time and it is complicated to explain and reason.

  • http://twitter.com/at2rty bremont Alfredo

    it sounds interesting however it is the question of technology, were things are not clear, as an alien ship to get here will use a different time frame, therefore its technology will not apply to us. in other words they travel differently than we do. to get from here to there they travel via a time dimension that is linear, we travel on circular time dimension. 'atom' meaning spherical. we exist on a spherical time frame. we call recurrence, a wheel for intense an jet engine turns circular. the moon goes around the sun, we exist on a spherical reasoning frame-work. they don't.
    they get here via a time related moment so when they reach planet earth they see us but they cannot contact us because of the time relation. however we can see perhaps their craft or we can have signals and symbols regarding their existence. physically they will be something like a soul, ethereal, or consciousness, non material. reason is time. it would be like you great grandfather is alive now, well he will exist but his material body would not be visible however his soul, mind or consciousness will. so they leap between the past and the future. it is the actual were they have a problem. to reason is because to get here their own time subtracts the actual. well long story until next time and it is complicated to explain and reason.

    • Klaatu

      Another four or five cups of coffee and I think you'll have it.

    • El Mutante

      Lay off the shrooms.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RR3TD3HX4NLB3JADTFJPL35BGY Mark

      I am guessing this wasn’t meant to be understood, but “groked.” Peace, my ultraterrestrial friend.

  • Klaatu

    This is as real as it gets, folks.

    • Harvey Ellis

      Hoagland’s interviews and books are well worth a read and give us a completely new perspective on our origins which are continuosuly hidden from the mainsteam. Why? Don’t know but his views although they may seem bizarre when heard for the very first time are certainly shared by a number of other authors on the many different claims he makes.  As Ghandi once evoked: “Truth is not always the majority view”.

  • dumbsaint

    I hate listening to Hoaxland waffle on the guys clearly full of shit and an unbearable egomaniac. He recently butted in to the tail end of an interview with Buzz Aldrin (the shows producers obviously quarantined him to the last 15 mins). He spent that sucking up to the guy and praising him.

    Stephen Greer is even worse. He charges people thousands of dollars to take people out into a field and signal down UFOs with a series of guided meditations and a couple of flashlights. All the while never providing video or photographic evidence of it.

    • A Bad Joke

      He charges how much? Hmmm… I do need a job.

      • Klaatu

        Yeah, like he's supposed to work for free and pay for everyone's travel expenses. Greer writes books and actually CHARGES for them, too! Not to be trusted…obviously.

    • Klaatu

      Being an egomaniac doesn't make Hoagland or Greer a “fraud” (i.e., acting with intent to deceive). Beethoven was an egomaniac, so what? How about some specifics? What has either of them knowingly “lied” about? Being “wrong” doesn't make someone a “fraud.”

  • Drjettrink

    Richard Hoagland is 100% completely full of crap. Always has been. He is a manipulative scam artist, pure and simple.

    • Laudare

      Hi,
      Please explain. More detailed information, please. I am on the fence and willing to listen to all sides.

  • Hadrian999

    could be worse, we could be hearing from Ed Dames

  • Simiantongue

    This is all true. I have seen documented footage of the ins and outs of this “War in space” on the Sci-Fi channel. You can look up these documentaries under the name “Stargate SG1″. I have seen hours and hours of this documented footage my own eyes! I watched about an hour a week and it took whole seasons. Well worth the time invested though.

  • Klaatu

    You’re the one who brought up his hair, obviously you didn’t mean it as a compliment. You said he was a crank, a charlatan, and a carnival performer, without a single fact or anecdote to support what amounts to an unsolicited slam. Biased comments containing no useful information are “irrelevant.”

    You appear to have no serious interest in exopolitics, the subject of the Hoagland-Greer interview and topic of this thread — remember?

  • G-home

    i think what he is saying is true! just look at what william cooper said that the moon was inhabited by the us,russia & ET’s he also said they were taking water to the moon, again that was confirmed by NASA recently. Hoagland was also correct about torsion physics which has been confirmed by nassim haramein.

  • G-home

    i think what he is saying is true! just look at what william cooper said that the moon was inhabited by the us,russia & ET’s he also said they were taking water to the moon, again that was confirmed by NASA recently. Hoagland was also correct about torsion physics which has been confirmed by nassim haramein.

  • Scott Florance H

    I had a vision that my great great
    grandfather was Vig Vigura the
    starfightercraft pilot. Make a half
    hour video using video graphics show the
    sea life in the alien world he visited
    all by himself the ocean life swimming
    by with video graphics that’s looks like
    video game computer art don’t show his
    face no face but some of the land dinos
    he liked one pict of his craft classical
    music no sound of voices strictly a
    documentary how he let of a nuke-blast
    that wasted 9 mountains of territory .
    His grandson my Father was Mr Olif age 8
    got stabbed 102 times by Mr Brickney and
    dumped his body by the woods. He woke up
    running through the forest weeping he
    found a locked metal box in a wooden
    tree stump then 5 inch centerpedes stung
    him over and over. There was smashing
    the lock to find a 4 inch ray gun
    experimental device in the box it was 6
    minutes of pressing 19 buttons where
    inside that ray gun. A micro universe
    that’s 50,000 light years times 92 with
    1700 plants in it. Where in a weird
    reality where they shrink people down to
    the exact copy of the country as it was
    before. I think Ima micron now compard
    to age 3 yikes! The movie Gamers shows
    some people that where xylon downloads
    from the ray gun shooting a green beam
    at a subject in goddess land like that’s
    how I came into being Im not not a robot
    droid I want to live forever, can you
    hire a phycic-cloravouyent that can see
    how to ad 50 years to my life I must
    leave to portigul or Isreal that’s my
    1st gues.

    See my blog at bebo.com/Scott F7163 or
    go to myspace.com and type in Scott
    Florance in the PEOPLE SEARCH bar yes
    pride and opportunity is all I am I hate
    my family now is Is Elizibeth Morgan
    Betty Farmeth my real mother doubt it!
    I lived with her in Bothel, kent-ballard
    Nlynwood Snohomish, Tiujuan Mexico
    Everett-S-Marysvill for 18 years How
    could I be so stupid! she is evil! (they
    have many copies and they have a plan.)

  • Scott Florance H

    I had a vision that my great great
    grandfather was Vig Vigura the
    starfightercraft pilot. Make a half
    hour video using video graphics show the
    sea life in the alien world he visited
    all by himself the ocean life swimming
    by with video graphics that’s looks like
    video game computer art don’t show his
    face no face but some of the land dinos
    he liked one pict of his craft classical
    music no sound of voices strictly a
    documentary how he let of a nuke-blast
    that wasted 9 mountains of territory .
    His grandson my Father was Mr Olif age 8
    got stabbed 102 times by Mr Brickney and
    dumped his body by the woods. He woke up
    running through the forest weeping he
    found a locked metal box in a wooden
    tree stump then 5 inch centerpedes stung
    him over and over. There was smashing
    the lock to find a 4 inch ray gun
    experimental device in the box it was 6
    minutes of pressing 19 buttons where
    inside that ray gun. A micro universe
    that’s 50,000 light years times 92 with
    1700 plants in it. Where in a weird
    reality where they shrink people down to
    the exact copy of the country as it was
    before. I think Ima micron now compard
    to age 3 yikes! The movie Gamers shows
    some people that where xylon downloads
    from the ray gun shooting a green beam
    at a subject in goddess land like that’s
    how I came into being Im not not a robot
    droid I want to live forever, can you
    hire a phycic-cloravouyent that can see
    how to ad 50 years to my life I must
    leave to portigul or Isreal that’s my
    1st gues.

    See my blog at bebo.com/Scott F7163 or
    go to myspace.com and type in Scott
    Florance in the PEOPLE SEARCH bar yes
    pride and opportunity is all I am I hate
    my family now is Is Elizibeth Morgan
    Betty Farmeth my real mother doubt it!
    I lived with her in Bothel, kent-ballard
    Nlynwood Snohomish, Tiujuan Mexico
    Everett-S-Marysvill for 18 years How
    could I be so stupid! she is evil! (they
    have many copies and they have a plan.)

  • Chris

    Hoagland not only doesn’t think the landings were faked, he insists they were real. You don’t know anything.

    Having said that, Hoagland is, nonetheless, a complete sham.

  • Numismatic2012

    Here is the question did really work for NASA?

    If so then you have to consider maybe there is some truth to some of this information.

  • Numismatic2012

    Here is the question did really work for NASA?

    If so then you have to consider maybe there is some truth to some of this information.

  • Laudare

    Hi,
    Please explain. More detailed information, please. I am on the fence and willing to listen to all sides.

  • interplanetary spacegod

    why has the video been removed on youtube?

  • interplanetary spacegod

    why has the video been removed on youtube?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RR3TD3HX4NLB3JADTFJPL35BGY Mark

    Hoagland is a self-promoting fraud, in spite of his education and experience. Presidents, generals, cardinals, and kings can be just as insane and delusional as anyone on the street. Just because they hold or held an important position doesn’t exclude them from being mental, or just a con artist.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RR3TD3HX4NLB3JADTFJPL35BGY Mark

    Hoagland is a self-promoting fraud, in spite of his education and experience. Presidents, generals, cardinals, and kings can be just as insane and delusional as anyone on the street. Just because they hold or held an important position doesn’t exclude them from being mental, or just a con artist.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RR3TD3HX4NLB3JADTFJPL35BGY Mark

    I am guessing this wasn’t meant to be understood, but “groked.” Peace, my ultraterrestrial friend.

  • Harvey Ellis

    Hoagland’s interviews and books are well worth a read and give us a completely new perspective on our origins which are continuosuly hidden from the mainsteam. Why? Don’t know but his views although they may seem bizarre when heard for the very first time are certainly shared by a number of other authors on the many different claims he makes.  As Ghandi once evoked: “Truth is not always the majority view”.

  • Richard C. Bowel Movement

    Mr. Hoagland is an asshat calibrated closely to fit into Mr. Obama’s colon.  That is the Enterprise Mission.

  • Richard C. Bowel Movement

    Mr. Hoagland is an asshat calibrated closely to fit into Mr. Obama’s colon.  That is the Enterprise Mission.