School Enlists All Ninth Grade Freshmen In JROTC

USMCJROTCFrom The Sun News in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina:

Welcome to high school. Now drop and give me 50.

The entire freshman class at Carvers Bay High School has been automatically enrolled in the Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps, a military-sponsored program that trains high school students in military discipline and concepts. Principal Richard Neal, a Navy veteran, said the school’s Marine Corps JROTC class is fulfilling the student’s physical education requirement and is part of the school’s Ninth Grade Academy.

But Charles Holloway, the parent of a freshman student at Carvers Bay, said he did not want his son in that program and when he asked that his son be taken out, his son was put in a class by himself. Holloway said he feels his son was being punished for not wanting to take part in that class…

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20 Comments on "School Enlists All Ninth Grade Freshmen In JROTC"

  1. Originalseeker | Aug 25, 2010 at 9:03 am |

    Myrtle Beach is in South Carolina

  2. What an incomplete, alarmist story. There's hardly any information here, and what information exists is incomplete.

    The headline says “Freshmen”, plural, are automatically enrolled in JROTC. But the body of the story reports that only a single student objected. And when he objected, the student was put in a class “by himself” … what's that mean, precisely? Was it a temporary “holding” class until they sorted out his schedule? Was it detention? Was the student placed in the class by mistake?

    Compulsory education has many flaws (indoctrinating students with pervasive leftist sentiments such as environmentalism and global warming not the least among them), but incomplete news stories hardly help.

  3. Militarism is collectivism.

  4. No one is being enlisted in the Army automatically. It's not the ROTC, it's a “military-sponsored program that trains high school students in military discipline and concepts.” To put it in a better light: What difference does it make if you have PE taught by an Ex-Marine or a currently enlisted one? Plus paid for by the army is a big deal in some schools who might otherwise cut PE entirely.

    This guy is a whiner. His kid will most likely only benefit from the discipline they're going to give him instead of the hippy suburban entitlement attitude he probably has more than enough of. Drop and learn your iphone and daddy's money are a privilege, not a right, how about that?

    • Gemmarama | Aug 25, 2010 at 5:24 pm |

      personally i wouldn't want my kid taught “discipline” (or fear, or conformism, or blind obedience, or violence for that matter) by some brainwashed OCD psycho with a diploma in killing babies either. but maybe that's just me…

      citing the fact that the army pays for it as some kind of plus point is like saying it's okay for macdonalds to take over school cafeterias if they're subsidised.

      i'm not sure where in the article it states that the parents are “suburban hippies” or that the kid is a brat. i think folk from all walks of life may object to the miltarisation of their offspring.

      apologies to those of you in the forces. the fact that you are posting on this site and not out bullying and insiduously recruiting school-aged children for combat obviously exempts you from the brutal stereotype above.

      • A Bad Joke | Aug 25, 2010 at 6:43 pm |

        I've never killed a baby in either Iraq tour.

        • Good for you. You followed the rules of engagement and made no mistake in that regard.

        • Gemmarama | Aug 26, 2010 at 6:22 am |

          i believe you. but with the civilian death toll currently conservatively estimated at 100,000, a significant number of your collegues did.

      • Tuna Ghost | Aug 26, 2010 at 7:28 pm |

        actually I just read this site for giggles inbetween my baby-stomping and soul-crushing duties as a Marine.

    • Synapse: “This guy is a whiner.”

      This guy has a right to not have his kid indoctrinated with a bunch of military bullshit prior to the age of consent.

      • There isn't any evidence of indoctrination unless you contest that their mere presence is indoctrinating (and then you might as well pull your kid out of school in fear that any teacher has a military background). I've learned from plenty of teachers who I didn't at all agree with politically, that doesn't mean that a, say, republican teacher means I'm going to join the GOP tomorrow. Neither does a college class with a political bent (as much as I disagree) mean I'm going to join whatever politics they like. People will make their own decisions about the military, even if they learn some of the military's ideas. Be more open minded.

        This parent, however, simply “wanted nothing to do with anything related to the military.” He didn't care about any benefit his kid would receive, and no article indicates the kid has any actual problem with the class or content. His kid would (at worst) be made to read Sun Tzu's the Art of War, do a paper about it, and made to do some push ups (as opposed to regular PE which is still push ups).

  5. South Carolina huh…combine dwindling budgets with local USMC fervor and small wonder a principal with a service record wouldn't see any harm in letting the military design and manage their PE program instead of doing it themselves like they ought to.

    Of course most parents go along with it…its their kids problem…not theirs. When the concept of 'mandatory volunteerism' came to town here…there were almost no objections from parents…despite the fact that the primary drive of the program was transform every graduating class into a free workforce for various local groups while holding their diploma hostage until service was completed. Again…it was the kids problem to deal with…not the parents…so objections were almost non-existent.My complaint them was that nothing has more power to erode a sense of obligation to your community than abusing teens as forced labor under duress. The sense that they've paid their dues kicks in when they finish and they lose any desire to help again after having been exploited.

    The end point is that most parents don't object…unless a low grade shows up and blemishes their childs record. The subtlety of too much exposure to militarism at age 14 isn't on most parents list of worries…but it should be.

    Soda companies, clothing companies and more have been slipping their products and ads into schools and characterizing it as 'helping out'…with the real goal being to make a lasting impression that serves them later…and this is no different…and no less wrong.

    • VoxMagi: “Nothing has more power to erode a sense of obligation to your community than abusing teens as forced labor under duress.”


  6. Tuna Ghost | Aug 27, 2010 at 12:28 am |

    actually I just read this site for giggles inbetween my baby-stomping and soul-crushing duties as a Marine.

  7. That’s pretty bogus!

  8. That’s pretty bogus!

  9. That’s pretty bogus!

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