Charles Manson: Global Warming Prophet

Charles mansonPaul Joseph Watson says that eco-nut James Jay Lee, along with many prominent environmentalists and academics, share their eugenicist belief system with the man who many consider to be evil incarnate, at Prison Planet:

Charles Manson, the man who masterminded the brutal murders of nine people in the summer of 1969 in an effort to spark a race war in America, has adopted a new cause from his prison cell in California – he is a prophet for the global warming movement – sharing common ground with top academics, environmentalists and even the White House science czar in calling for large numbers of human beings to be exterminated in the name of saving the Earth.

A study of Manson’s belief system is an alarming exercise in understanding the roots of the modern day eugenicist movement, which is propagated via the notion that overpopulation is killing the planet and causing global warming.

The infamous “Manson family” were responsible for the barbaric slayings of actress Sharon Tate and her unborn baby, as well as Rosemary LaBianca and her husband Leno, murders that sent shock waves through America and marked a sudden and crashing halt to the “free love” hippy movement of the 60’s. Manson himself shot and wounded one man, Bernard Crowe, and directed his cult-like followers in the murders of nine other victims.

Manson masterminded the murders in a bid to precipitate a race war between whites and blacks which he dubbed “Helter Skelter,” a term he took from the Beatles song of the same name. Manson and his followers were arrested for the murders in October, November and December of 1969 and all received life sentences.

Preaching the same cause as James Jay Lee, the crazed eco-warrior who stormed a Discovery Channel building last week armed with guns and explosives, Manson continues to attract a loyal following from new members of his “family” who share the notorious killer’s obsession with the need to exterminate humans in order to save the Earth from global warming.

Manson, who still adorns a Nazi swastika tattoo on his forehead, did not glom on to the global warming bandwagon after seeing Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth, the movie that gunman Lee cited as his inspiration, he was preaching about the need to kill people in order to save the polar ice caps from melting as far back as the mid-80’s…

[continues at Prison Planet]

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  • Ironaddict06

    Yep, everyone should follow Al Gore’s directions and rid the world of CO2. You know all that CO2 that all humans expell when the breath. That same CO2 that all plants need.

    • Haystack

      …and can only absorb in limited quantities.

  • Vox Penii

    In the early 1900s, eugenics was an openly racist movement with strongest support amongst self-described “progressives.” > http://www.princeton.edu/~tleonard/papers/retrospectives.pdf < Hitler's eugenics were strongly inspired by earlier American "progressive" eugenics, e.g., the sterilization of young Carrie Buck as a feeble-minded degenerate after she gave birth out of wedlock (in truth, she'd become pregnant after being raped > http://jonjayray.tripod.com/lefteug2.html < )

    Current environmental extremists like James Jay Lee are using the Marxist Materialist Dialectic, having replaced the evil/exploitative bourgeois with humanity, and having replaced the virtuous proletariat with the environment. "The impetus of this new [Marxist/socialist] strategy, captured perfectly in the title of Rudolf Bahro’s "From Red to Green," [1984] integrated with the new emphasis on equality over need. In Marxism, humankind’s technological mastery of nature was a presupposition of socialism.

    "Marxism was a humanism in the sense of putting human values at
    the core of its value framework and assuming that the environment
    is there for human beings to use and enjoy to their own ends. But,
    egalitarian critics began to argue more forcefully, just as males’
    putting their interests highest led them to subjugate women, and
    just as whites’ putting their interests highest led them to subjugate
    all other races, humans’ putting their interests highest had led to
    the subjugation of the other species and the environment as a
    whole." Stephen Hicks, "Explaining Postmodernism" (2004)

    > http://www.stephenhicks.org/2009/11/16/the-evolution-of-socialist-strategies/ <

    • Andrew

      So environmentalists aren’t Marxists, we’re worse than Marxists.

      • gemmarama

        everybody close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears, and sing a happy song…

    • A Bad Joke

      Clap your hands if you believe!

      Yee-haw!

    • Haystack

      Stands in awe of the mental gymnastics VP performs in order to equate Hitler and racism with the liberals.

      Are the KKK Marxists, too?

    • dumbsaint

      Glenn Beck would like his chalkboard back if you’re done.

  • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

    Overpopulation is a problem. There’s no real arguing that. Advocating that idea isn’t the same thing as advocating genocide.

    • Anonymous

      Overpopulation is not a problem. The global population will peak at about 9 billion in 2050 then go into decline. Having 90% of the humans on this planet too old to work will be the problem come 2100.

      Advocating that overpopulation is a problem is exactly the same thing as advocating genocide.

      • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

        Are you a seer? How the hell do you know that overpopulation’s going to peak when medicine is likely to improve.

        I’ll grant that there are much better ways to use our resources so that the population isn’t as burdened as it is today, but – right now – overpopulation is causing havoc.

        • Anonymous

          Overpopulation is causing havoc?

          • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

            Take a look at the world – a tragedy a second. Now imagine a world where there were 1000 people. This is a hypothetical argument. I’m not advocating killing everyone, but the rate of war, child porn, rape, murder, environmental degradation, etc. etc. would go down, no?

            And I don’t quite buy this b/c it presupposes that technology is static: http://news.mongabay.com/2007/0313-population.html

            My prescription is not war but a non totalitarian utopia where people are smart enough to not buy plastic crap and money goes to education instead of defense. Given how we like killing each other and politicians opt for non-sustainability, my money’s on a war.

          • Anonymous

            I’m so sorry but your Utopia is bullshit. Bad people will enslave your happy natives. Also there is no Santa Claus. Sorry I had to break it to you like that.

            You think that human life causes “war, child porn, rape, murder, environmental degradation, etc. etc.” You’re one sick puppy and a eugenicist. No matter what way you dress it up that’s what you are.

          • Andrew

            And right there you started calling people names first.

          • Anonymous

            Eugenicist is not a pejorative term. Henry and his mate James Lee seem to revel in the concept.

          • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

            WTF, so human’s don’t cause child porn? Who does? I never said my utopia was realistic – that’s why it’s called a “utopia.” We could at least be doing something to create a more sustainable world. Given that’s my hope, I don’t know where the hell you get off calling me a eugenicist.

          • A Bad Joke

            What does child porn have to do with anything?

          • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

            Humans do bad shit. Why do I have to explain this? Apparently pointing that out makes me a “sick puppy.”

          • A Bad Joke

            I just want to know how overpopulation causes child porn.

          • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

            With a smaller population, there’d be more resources to devote to education. Less poverty. Therefore fewer societal problems. A different economic system would solve this, but depopulation would also make civilization “more manageable.” I’m just playing devil’s advocate here, for the sake of discussion.

          • Andrew

            “Sick puppy” is a pejorative term.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah that was uncalled for. He’s clearly a sensible moderate what with his “overpopulation causes child porn” and “depopulation would also make civilization ‘more manageable.’ ”

            US science Czar John Holdren would approve of such dangerous claptrap.
            http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

          • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

            Dude, what part of “devil’s advocate” don’t you understand? And you haven’t answered: wouldn’t a smaller population mean fewer problems? It’s basic math – not advocacy of eugenics. There’s nothing the least bit outlandish about that supposition – creating laws to enforce it would be shit, but this is a philosophical question. Apparently you’re not up for that kind of subtlety, as anyone who touches on this issue is obviously a dictator in waiting.

            Curious, what’s your prescription for dealing with the world’s problems?

          • Anonymous

            The “philosophical question” you pose is called eugenics. We’ve been there and done that. There was some unpleasantness to say the least.

            You claim that you’re playing devil’s advocate. Sadly your suggestions are taken very seriously by a huge number of people. Go check the comments on Huffington Post stories about James Lee. The most common line of reasoning there is that he was bang to rights about depopulation and enforced sterilization but had poor public relations skills. Top Stanford U. professor Paul R. Erhlich and US science Czar John Holdren wrote a 1,000 page book about how to surreptitiously sterilize the entire planet to save the woodland creatures or some shit.

            The UN carefully counts everyone in the world and how many children each woman bears. Those bean-counting eggheads know their stuff. We’re heading for for a population crash. Likely there’ll be half as many people alive in 2100 as there were in 2000. This would be a disaster since there’ll be 9 geriatrics for every able bodied worker.

            Overpopulation is a myth. It depends on people’s ignorance about how big the Earth is and just how much stuff there is to exploit.

            A shirking population is the greater danger but you never hear about it because there’s a eugenic agenda running the show.

          • Andrew
          • Anonymous

            Read the link I posted to the end, please, thanks. Holdren’s excuses are weak in the extreme. I have never seen a moving picture of Glenn Beck nor have I heard his voice. Why do I keep seeing his name?

            I can read and think for myself.

          • Andrew

            That is an interesting page. About two fifths of the way down it reads:

            “I actually don’t disagree with everything Holdren says. I agree with him that overpopulation is a problem, and that much of the environmental degradation that has happened is due in large part to overpopulation (mostly in the developing world). Where we disagree is in the solution. While Holdren does occasionally advocate for milder solutions elsewhere in the book, his basic premise is that the population explosion has gotten so out of control that only the most oppressive and totalitarian measures can possibly stop humanity from stripping the planet bare and causing a catastrophe beyond our imagining. Holdren has (apparently) no problem saying we should force people to not have children, by any means necessary. And that is where we part ways. I draw the line at even the hint of compulsory compliance to draconian laws about pregnancy and abortion; Holdren does not hesitate to cross that line without a second thought.”

            “My solution would be to adopt social policies that are known to lead to voluntary and non-coercive trends toward a lower birth rate: increased education for girls in poor countries, better access to (voluntarily adopted) birth control, higher standards of living. In fact, population trends since 1977 have started to level off in the crisis areas of Asia and Latin America, primarily due to better standards of living and better education, which are known to decrease population growth. These non-oppressive policies appear to be sufficient to control the population — and Holdren’s decades-long panic attack seems to be unfounded.”

            So much for your unjustified slander against Henry Baum, equating concern about overpopulation with advocating genocide. I suspect your problem is that you don’t read and think enough.

          • FergalR

            We’re agreed that there is no overpopulation crisis Andrew. What exactly is your point?

            Is it accidental – pollution – that the endocrine disruptor bisphenol-A is sprayed on the inside of food and beverage tins?

            Is it coincidental that Erhlich and Holdren rose to prominence in science after authoring such an anti-human book?

        • Andrew

          No, he’s generally correct about the population peak. The rate of increase is already slowing down due to the effects of pollution (and I don’t mean climate change, I mean toxins in food, water, and air).

          • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

            Those things could change though, couldn’t they? Who knows what environmental tech there will be in the year 2043. New technology means less pollution, means greater population. Fix one thing, you break another.

      • Andrew

        The claim that “advocating” overpopulation is a problem is “exactly” the same thing as advocating genocide is either an obvious, desperate lie or a failure of comprehension. One is alleging (not advocating) there is a problem, the other is advocating an extreme course of action. Now, one might endorse genocide as a supposed solution to overpopulation, but if overpopulation is a problem (and I’m not convinced it is) there are other solutions, such as reducing the childbirth rate through sex education, psychotherapy, and/or contraception, or improving the standard of living by reducing economic activity.

        Another “solution” would be to just let pollution run its course and decimate the population, which we are already beginning to see.

        • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

          Thank you. It’s like writing the word “murder” is the same as killing someone. It’s a hypothetical discussion. Population is an important issue – whether or not it’s a “problem” – especially if we bring peak oil into it. Bringing that up doesn’t make me Charles Manson.

  • gemmarama

    everybody close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears, and sing a happy song…

  • Andrew

    The claim that “advocating” overpopulation is a problem is “exactly” the same thing as advocating genocide is either an obvious, desperate lie or a failure of comprehension. One is alleging (not advocating) there is a problem, the other is advocating an extreme course of action. Now, one might endorse genocide as a supposed solution to overpopulation, but if overpopulation is a problem (and I’m not convinced it is) there are other solutions, such as reducing the childbirth rate through sex education, psychotherapy, and/or contraception, or improving the standard of living by reducing economic activity.

    Another “solution” would be to just let pollution run its course and decimate the population, which we are already beginning to see.

  • ET

    Alex Jones’ “Prison Planet”, eh? I like what Charles Shaw had to say about him:

    http://www.realitysandwich.com/freedom_propaganda#comment-59084

  • A Bad Joke

    What does child porn have to do with anything?

  • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

    Humans do bad shit. Why do I have to explain this? Apparently pointing that out makes me a “sick puppy.”

  • justagirl

    i hope he has someone to keep him warm in that jail cell.

  • Andrew

    That is an interesting page. About two fifths of the way down it reads:

    “I actually don’t disagree with everything Holdren says. I agree with him that overpopulation is a problem, and that much of the environmental degradation that has happened is due in large part to overpopulation (mostly in the developing world). Where we disagree is in the solution. While Holdren does occasionally advocate for milder solutions elsewhere in the book, his basic premise is that the population explosion has gotten so out of control that only the most oppressive and totalitarian measures can possibly stop humanity from stripping the planet bare and causing a catastrophe beyond our imagining. Holdren has (apparently) no problem saying we should force people to not have children, by any means necessary. And that is where we part ways. I draw the line at even the hint of compulsory compliance to draconian laws about pregnancy and abortion; Holdren does not hesitate to cross that line without a second thought.”

    “My solution would be to adopt social policies that are known to lead to voluntary and non-coercive trends toward a lower birth rate: increased education for girls in poor countries, better access to (voluntarily adopted) birth control, higher standards of living. In fact, population trends since 1977 have started to level off in the crisis areas of Asia and Latin America, primarily due to better standards of living and better education, which are known to decrease population growth. These non-oppressive policies appear to be sufficient to control the population — and Holdren’s decades-long panic attack seems to be unfounded.”

    So much for your unjustified slander against Henry Baum, equating concern about overpopulation with advocating genocide. I suspect your problem is that you don’t read and think enough.

  • Anonymous

    We’re agreed that there is no overpopulation crisis Andrew. What exactly is your point?

    Is it accidental – pollution – that the endocrine disruptor bisphenol-A is sprayed on the inside of food and beverage tins?

    Is it coincidental that Erhlich and Holdren rose to prominence in science after authoring such an anti-human book?

  • Shanti Ritam

    I recommend the youtube video “The Great Warming Swindle! It is a video made for all the scientists who are scilensed by mainstream science and media.

  • Shanti Ritam

    I recommend the youtube video “The Great Warming Swindle! It is a video made for all the scientists who are scilensed by mainstream science and media.

  • ET
  • Anonymous

    Glenn Beck would like his chalkboard back if you’re done.

  • Anonymous

    Getting any information from Paul Joseph Watson is like seeking financial advice from a homeless child.

  • $4251815

    Getting any information from Paul Joseph Watson is like seeking financial advice from a homeless child.

  • anon

    Imagine a world where: as soon as a boy hits puberty, he goes to the doctor and gives multiple sperm samples which are put on ice and then gets a vasectomy. No more unwanted pregnancies, no more abortion (except, of course, in extreme cases when the mother’s life might be at risk), no fear of overpopulation, no fear of lack of natural resources, etc. A world where kids are not forced into becoming parents before they are fully ready to take on all of the responsibilities that come with such a burden. If and when you decided you would like to become a parent, you apply for a parental license: take a parenting course, be able to afford your child, etc. Very similar to the same hoops that prospective adopters must face. Once the parental license is obtained, you can either have a vasovasostomy (a reverse vasectomy) or you can simply use some of the sperm which has been on ice. And I wonder why my friends call me The Dictator…LOL :)

  • anon

    Imagine a world where: as soon as a boy hits puberty, he goes to the doctor and gives multiple sperm samples which are put on ice and then gets a vasectomy. No more unwanted pregnancies, no more abortion (except, of course, in extreme cases when the mother’s life might be at risk), no fear of overpopulation, no fear of lack of natural resources, etc. A world where kids are not forced into becoming parents before they are fully ready to take on all of the responsibilities that come with such a burden. If and when you decided you would like to become a parent, you apply for a parental license: take a parenting course, be able to afford your child, etc. Very similar to the same hoops that prospective adopters must face. Once the parental license is obtained, you can either have a vasovasostomy (a reverse vasectomy) or you can simply use some of the sperm which has been on ice. And I wonder why my friends call me The Dictator…LOL :)

  • Oneiric Imperium

    All the way alive!

  • Oneiric Imperium

    All the way alive!

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