Climate Change Lies Exposed

It’s certainly quite a sea change in media coverage of climate change issues in the UK! From the Daily Express:

The world’s leading climate change body has been accused of losing credibility after a damning report into its research practices.

A high-level inquiry into the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found there was “little evidence” for its claims about global warming.

It also said the panel had emphasised the negative impacts of climate change and made “substantive findings” based on little proof.

The review by the InterAcademy Council (IAC) was launched after the IPCC’s hugely embarrassing 2007 benchmark climate change report, which contained exaggerated and false claims that Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2035.

The panel was forced to admit its key claim in support of global warming was lifted from a 1999 magazine article. The report was based on an interview with a little-known Indian scientist who has since said his views were “speculation” and not backed by research.

Independent climate scientist Peter Taylor said last night: “The IPCC’s credibility has been deeply dented and something has to be done. It can’t just be a matter of adjusting the practices. They have got to look at what are the consequences of having got it wrong in terms of what the public think is going on. Admitting that it needs to reform means something has gone wrong and they really do need to look at the science.”

Climate change sceptic David Holland, who challenged leading climate change scientists at the University of East Anglia to disclose their research, said: “The panel is definitely not fit for purpose. What the IAC has said is substantial changes need to be made.”

The IAC, which comprises the world’s top science academies including the UK’s Royal Society, made recommendations to the IPCC to “enhance its credibility and independence” after the Himalayan glaciers report, which severely damaged the reputation of climate science.

It condemned the panel – set up by the UN to ensure world leaders had the best scientific advice on climate change – for its “slow and inadequate response” after the damaging errors emerged.

Among the blunders in the 2007 report were claims that 55 per cent of the Netherlands was below sea level when the figure is 26 per cent.

It also claimed that water supplies for between 75 million and 250 million people in Africa will be at risk by 2020 due to climate change, but the real range is between 90 and 220 million.

The claim that glaciers would melt by 2035 was also rejected…

[continues in the Daily Express]

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  • 5by5

    David Holland? The founder and Grand Dragon of the Southern White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan is a climate science “skeptic”?

    Oh no, wrong Dave Holland, LOL.

    You would be referring to the whiny electrical engineer, who isn't a climate scientist at all. The guy who “uncovered” the fact that REAL climate scientists reacted with disdain at his blitherings in their emails to each other. That guy.

    You'll also note that no one is saying that Global Climate change is not happening, or that it is not being greatly exacerbated by man-made influence.

    My personal sense is, let's not wait and see “if” the Himalayan glaciers melt in 10 years as opposed to 50, thereby denying roughly 4 billion people access to fresh water. Let's take a stab at minimizing the impact of what's coming now. Because once they melt, it's kinda too late to go to those billions of people who are dying of thirst, “Oops. My bad. Guess we were wrong about this, just like we were wrong about that whole WMD thing…..”

    One conservative fuck-up will only cost you a country in the middle east and $10 trillion out of the U.S. Treasury. The other will cost perhaps the survival of civilization as we know it, and potentially life on the planet.

    With stakes that high, I'll go with the precautionary principle, thanks.

    • Vox Penii

      “My personal sense is, let's not wait and see “if” [...] Let's take a stab at minimizing the impact of what's coming now. “

      Why is this argument is valid when applied to global warming, but invalid when applied to, say, Islamic terrorists or Weapons of Mass Destruction?

      • Andrew

        Because the precautions regarding possible climate changes involve reduction in the uses of chemicals that are toxic, while the precautions regarding Islamofascism and possible WMDs involve killing innocent civilians.

      • connie dobbs

        It’s valid in both cases. Unfortunately, diplomacy doesn’t work on greenhouse gasses. We even tried to give them some government grants and they just said “Whoooooooosh”. That’s air for “bite me”.

        And in any case, we know that it doesn’t work for terrorism because we tried it and 9 years later things aren’t any better, mostly because the western imperialistic behavior that drives islamic extremism only serves to make them angrier. Greenhouse gasses aren’t whiny bitches like terrorists, they’re easier to handle.

      • Word Eater

        The argument is invalid in both cases.

        However, changes do need to be made regarding the chemicals we pump into the earth, water, and sky. We are killing ourselves slowly with poisons of our own design.

        Using the spectre of global warming to drum up funding and support is underhanded, but it’s the only way to get peoples’ attention.

        The ends justify the means.

      • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry Baum

        Jeezis, I don’t know. Maybe the difference between helping the environment and going to war. Subtle difference.

      • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

        Actually…everyone agrees that something should be done for all of the above…

        …the key difference is that with WMD and terrorism…one side in favor of shitting their pants with fear and torching all civil liberties as a cure…and the other side is prepared to actually treat the causes instead of the symptoms.

        “Doing something” doesn’t necessarily have to mean making futile, counter productive choices…unless you’re a neo-con who is vested in the problem and uninterested in actual solutions.

    • Antonio

      There is global warming, but it is not man-made. There is absoilutely nothing we can do about it. Nature will do what it does always, notwithstanding our actions. And as for the loss of billions of lives, that too is inevitable. We are not that powerful.

  • Vox Penii

    If scientists are distorting data about global warming, I know what's to blame:

    global warming.

    let's add “global warming hysteria” to the long list of items that various experts have blamed on global warming:

    John Brignell

    Got a problem? Blame global warming!

    From allergies to maple syrup shortages to yellow fever: apparently every contemporary ill is caused by climate change.

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    ‘It’s all them atom bombs what’s doing it.’ That is what the old dears used to say in the event of unusual weather when I was growing up in the back streets of Tottenham in north London. There is something deep in the human psyche that requires a cause to be identified for every effect. Presumably this has an evolutionary advantage: man the toolmaker was able to turn abstract concepts, such as consequence and purpose, to his benefit.

    Mind you, even in those far off innocent days they did not fly into a panic, as now, over a mild October. They just enjoyed it. They even had a term for it – Indian Summer. What a fine example of ratchet reporting we have seen in recent weeks, with almost every British newspaper showing horror pictures of… late flowering gardens. Yet they studiously ignored the fact that this has been the year without a spring, when the tree blossom was a month late (see these pictures from my website, Numberwatch, as illustration).

    That instinct has been a gift for the shamans of each age, ours no less than those that went before. Now carbon, the very stuff of life, has been cast in the role of original sin and its dioxide, absolutely essential to the existence of life on earth, condemned as a pollutant. Just as deviation from the strictures of the gods resulted in calamities such as floods and earthquakes in the past, so our new godless religion decrees that every disaster and minor discomfort arises from our engagement in industry, progress and the pursuit of well-being.

    When I began to compile the complete list of things caused by global warming (see below), I was only too aware of the facile dismissal that was casually levelled at my complete list of things that give you cancer: ‘He made it all up!’ So, I only included things for which I could provide a link. That list of over three hundred items is still growing daily, thanks to the efforts of number watchers around the world, and contains some remarkable and delightfully contradictory examples. A new raft of entries has now come in from the Stern Report. These include notably an increase in gender inequalities with men migrating and women subject to impoverishment, forced marriage, labour exploitation, trafficking and natural disasters. You could not make that up – it is beyond satire.

    What is not a cause for jocularity is the evidence that all this provides for putrefaction in the groves of academe: for most of these excesses emanate from university departments, and are by people rejoicing in the debased title of professor. Not only does it illustrate the pathetic race to grovel before the priesthood of political correctness, who have seized control of research funding all over the world, it also reveals a loss of that sense of proportion that was once the backbone of experimental science.

    The telling phrase ‘lost in the noise’ has simply got lost in the noise. Only a quarter of a century ago, if anyone had claimed that a temperature change of 0.6 degrees Celsius would cause such a drastic change in precipitation that it would in turn trigger earthquakes, it would have been met with universal howls of derision. Now it is just par for the course and any derision would be censored by editors of newspapers and even, heaven help us, scientific journals.

    What is it about humanity that provokes this addiction to scaremongering? In the seventies, when the scare was global cooling, there was still a residue of that scepticism that was the legacy of British philosophers. From the Bacons, through the likes of Locke, Hume and Russell, to the magnificent climax of Popper’s statement of the principle of falsifiability, the scientific method was painfully established, only to be abandoned in a few short decades. The method was essentially sceptical, as Thomas Huxley put it:

    The improver of natural knowledge absolutely refuses to acknowledge authority, as such. For him, scepticism is the highest of duties; blind faith the one unpardonable sin.

    All gone, alas!

    John Brignell is author of Numberwatch.

    A complete list of things caused by global warming:

    (Each list item is linked to a news story. However, this list has been compiled over a period of time, so some links may no longer work.)

    Agricultural land increase, Africa devastated, African aid threatened, air pressure changes, Alaska reshaped, allergies increase, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), ancient forests dramatically changed, Antarctic grass flourishes, anxiety, algal blooms, Arctic bogs melt, Asthma, atmospheric defiance, atmospheric circulation modified, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, bananas destroyed, bananas grow, bet for $10,000, better beer, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billions of deaths, bird distributions change, birds return early, blackbirds stop singing, blizzards, blue mussels return, boredom, Britain Siberian, British gardens change, bubonic plague, budget increases, building season extension, bushfires, business opportunities, business risks, butterflies move north, cardiac arrest, caterpillar biomass shift, challenges and opportunities, Cholera, civil unrest, cloud increase, cloud stripping, cod go south, cold climate creatures survive, cold spells (Australia), computer models, conferences, coral bleaching, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink , cold spells, cost of trillions, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cyclones (Australia), damages equivalent to $200 billion, Dengue hemorrhagic fever, dermatitis, desert advance, desert life threatened, desert retreat, destruction of the environment, diarrhoea, disappearance of coastal cities, diseases move north, Dolomites collapse, drought, drowning people, ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, early spring, earlier pollen season, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth dying, Earth even hotter, Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down, Earth spinning out of control, Earth to explode, earth upside down, Earth wobbling, earthquakes, El Niño intensification, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing, evolution accelerating, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (human, civilisation, logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod, ladybirds, bats, pandas, pikas, polar bears, pigmy possums, gorillas, koalas, walrus, whales, frogs, toads, turtles, orang-utan, elephants, tigers, plants, salmon, trout, wild flowers, woodlice, penguins, a million species, half of all animal and plant species, less, not polar bears), experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, famine, farmers go under, figurehead sacked, fish catches drop, fish catches rise, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, floods, Florida economic decline, food poisoning, food prices rise, food security threat (SA), footpath erosion, forest decline, forest expansion, frosts, fungi invasion, Garden of Eden wilts, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, glacial retreat, glacial growth, glacier wrapped, global cooling, global dimming, glowing clouds, Gore omnipresence, grandstanding, grasslands wetter, Great Barrier Reef 95% dead, Great Lakes drop, greening of the North, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, hazardous waste sites breached, heat waves, hibernation ends too soon, hibernation ends too late, high court debates, human fertility reduced, human health improvement, human health risk, hurricanes, hydropower problems, hyperthermia deaths, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, inclement weather, infrastructure failure (Canada), Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing, industry threatened, infectious diseases, insurance premium rises, invasion of midges, island disappears, islands sinking, itchier poison ivy, jellyfish explosion, Kew Gardens taxed, krill decline, lake and stream productivity decline, landslides, landslides of ice at 140 mph, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful, lawyers’ income increased (surprise, surprise!), lightning related insurance claims, little response in the atmosphere, Lyme disease, Malaria, malnutrition, Maple syrup shortage, marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, marine dead zone, Meaching (end of the world), megacryometeors, Melanoma, methane emissions from plants, methane burps, melting permafrost, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration, migration difficult (birds), microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly, more bad air days, more research needed, mountain (Everest) shrinking, mountains break up, mountains taller, mudslides, next ice age, Nile delta damaged, no effect in India, nuclear plants bloom, oaks move north, ocean acidification, outdoor hockey threatened, oyster diseases, ozone loss, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise, Pacific dead zone, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, phenology shifts, plankton blooms, plankton destabilised, plankton loss, plant viruses, plants march north, polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears drowning, polar bears starve, polar tours scrapped, psychosocial disturbances, railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainfall reduction, refugees, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, rice yields crash, rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war, rivers raised, rivers dry up, rockfalls, rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert, Ross river disease, salinity reduction, salinity increase, Salmonella, salmon stronger, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, sex change, sharks booming, shrinking ponds, ski resorts threatened, slow death, smog, snowfall increase, snowfall reduction, societal collapse, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, spiders invade Scotland, squid population explosion, squirrels reproduce earlier, spectacular orchids, stormwater drains stressed, taxes, tectonic plate movement, terrorism, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tourism increase, trade winds weakened, tree beetle attacks, tree foliage increase (UK), tree growth slowed, trees could return to Antarctic, trees less colourful, trees more colourful, tropics expansion, tropopause raised, tsunamis, turtles lay earlier, UK Katrina, Venice flooded, volcanic eruptions, walrus pups orphaned, war, wars over water, water bills double, water supply unreliability, water scarcity (20% of increase), water stress, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weeds, Western aid cancelled out, West Nile fever, whales move north, wheat yields crushed in Australia, white Christmas dream ends, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, wine – harm to Australian industry, wine industry damage (California), wine industry disaster (US), wine – more English, wine -German boon, wine – no more French , winters in Britain colder, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less, workers laid off, World bankruptcy, World in crisis, Yellow fever

    http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/ar

  • Durrrrrr

    And of course, this is tagged under climate “denial”, one of the filthy neocons favorite words to degrade anyone that doesn’t obey/believe something with no factual evidence. Thanks Disinfo, once again, you show us your strange anthropogenic global warming conspiracy theory beliefs. Go suck Al Gores nuts, or we will be underwater in 3 years. Bet you believe that too. Ha, this website has gone to shit.

    • connie dobbs

      LOL@ u.

  • Ajsilver42

    Glacial melting will increase in speed, so the 15ft per year that we are not seeing melt the Himalayas may in fact come to pass. As we lose the large amount of white surface area on the face of the planet, we also lose that areas ability to deflect sunlight. If the sunlight is not broken-down through other processes then it has a better chance of leaving the atmosphere. Sunlight that has engaged in (inherently) entropic reactions (turning into heat) will have it’s energy put into radiation that lacks the energetic capability to escape the earth. This is one of the reasons that climate changes in the past have displayed cascading effects (among other reasons).

    I agree that no one has in fact been able to deny that climate change is happening, due to massive misuse of resources, at the very least. Global warming may take more data to conclude statistically, but the amount of pollutants in the water which are leading to endochrine disruptions in fish and ourselves needs to be addressed. (chemical castration, as the Nazis had envisioned solving the Jewish problem in Germany at one point).

    It is a shame that the good name of so many environmentalists can be so easily tarnished in the public mind because of the liberties taken by a few.

  • APR

    The biggest driver of climate change is the sun-spot cycle, which was longer than usual this time. Now we have a record number of sunspots, lousy weather all over the world and more people are affected. Our memories are very short. The sun spot cycle is about 11 years, plus or minus. Also, (according to the article) we’ve only been keeping accurate records since about 1880, which is like 5 minutes ago in geological terms.

    I will agree that the anthropogenic climate change conspiracy theory is useful for getting people to stop the wasteful practice of using fossil fuels, but the bureaucrats are using it as another excuse to collect taxes – carbon taxes. What a load.

    • connie dobbs

      You’re right, there should be no carbon tax. Fossil fuels should be banned immediately.

      • APR

        Good luck with that. Actually, the technology exists right now. Oil is obsolete, but tell that to those with billions of dollars in oil infrastructure and investments, not to mention the military-industrial complex, which makes a fortune selling arms to those that produce, protect and consume the awful stuff.

        My dad got two patents on the following process in the 1970’s and now the Israelis have figured out the full cycle: http://wis-wander.weizmann.ac.il/site/en/weizman.asp?pi=371&doc_id=5517 . The idea is that all you need is water, sunlight, a catalyst and a way to collect the resulting hydrogen. It’s a “clean” burning fuel for conventional combustion engines or fuel cells. My father estimated, using mid-1970’s demand figures, that there is enough sunlight falling on a 144 mile by 144 mile square to power the entire USA using this process.

        • Belcat

          Assuming this is even correct, we are using far more resources now than we were in the 1970’s… so the calculation would need to be redone, and as always, consideration for how much land would be left for food, etc, would need to be made too.

          People have been searching for efficient ways of producing hydrogen and nothing good has yet to come up, so I would assuming this process isn’t efficient, or isn’t doable in a practical way (much like there are solar panels that are twice as efficient as the current ones, but they require such rare minerals, they aren’t worth it anywhere except in space or on calculator solar cells which are tiny). It is possible to make hydrogen from solar cells for example, but that process has some losses, and batteries have less losses. (Although, it would be easier to store lots of hydrogen than battery electricity – at this time…)

  • connie dobbs

    LOL@ u.

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes you just have to admit that you are incorrect or that you have been bamboozled. This discussion should not end but it would make more sense to focus on the obvious environmental problems, like coal burning for example, or gas fracking, and let the theoretical problems sort themselves out over time.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      Amen to that. The disconnect is mostly about whether ‘global warming’ is man made and carbon based…we’d have already made a lot of progress on reducing serious pollution if the the entire debate hadn’t been neatly sidelined into this shit.

    • Belcat

      I believe the conservative movement likes the focus to be on global warming, then they can avoid real issues, like oil spills, and other pollution…

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Amen to that. The disconnect is mostly about whether ‘global warming’ is man made and carbon based…we’d have already made a lot of progress on reducing serious pollution if the the entire debate hadn’t been neatly sidelined into this shit.

  • malatesting123

    Oh yes. Some fundamentals please.
    1)Carbon in the atmosphere doesnt cause the atmosphere to warm
    2)Humans are producing carbon at the lowest levels in history.
    3)What Carbon does go into the atmosphere a)leaks into space b) leaks into the 5th dimension c) is eaten by birds
    4) Global Warming is a conspiracy by Capitalist funded scientists to destroy capitalism
    5)The Earth and its atmosphere are static, as proven by the fossil record.
    6)Obviously, just because the data doesnt support temp increases via increased sun activity doesnt mean it isnt happening.
    7) All scientists are infallible, and those that arent were never scientists to begin with.
    Im so sick of these communist pc losers and their so-called science. Come and pry this carbon out of my cold dead hands.

    • Oknotko

      *Puts on Tinfoil hat*

    • Drewski

      malatesting — That was either very funny and 100% inaccurate or supremely stupid and 100% inaccurate

  • Twawki

    Ah well when they fabricate a warming world while people are freezing to death they are not only dumb but gonna get caught out sooner rather than later

  • emperorreagan

    Funny that the IAC report basically says that the panel was engaged in inappropriate advocacy and was overstepping good science in making some claims without proper supporting evidence/peer reviewed studies/etc. The report also says that overall, the panel has been successful and doesn’t challenge either climate change or that there is a human contribution to climate change.

    The primary point the report makes is that the IPCC should be reformed. Here’s a better discussion of the report: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/08/reforming-the-ipcc/62334/

    It’s not really a sea of change in media coverage. The bias in how this is being reported is the same as any other climate change issue. The Daily Express is a right-wing rag prone to denial of climate change, so their take on the IAC report really isn’t a surprise.

  • Linkamathingy

    temperature leads carbon dioxide, not the other way around. Prof. John Cristy Lead Author IPCC(a political organization) is not part of the consensus he hears about concerning humans causing catastrophic effects with carbon dioxide. 75% of greenhouse gas is water vapor, .054% is CO2. Volcanoes put out more than humans do. Al Gore is a crackhead pseudo scientist and Bill Clinton a cokehead drug runner. I think that covers it.

    • Drewski

      Past temperature rises may have preceded CO2, however, that in no way deflects from the fact that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and captures heat at wavelengths that H2O doesn’t . IPCC is an organization of 192 countries of every political stripe. Man produced CO2 puts out more in 3 days than all the world’s volcanoes (on land and undersea) put out in a year — and it is increasing.

      Now who is the crackhead?

  • Linkamathingy

    temperature leads carbon dioxide, not the other way around. Prof. John Cristy Lead Author IPCC(a political organization) is not part of the consensus he hears about concerning humans causing catastrophic effects with carbon dioxide. 75% of greenhouse gas is water vapor, .054% is CO2. Volcanoes put out more than humans do. Al Gore is a crackhead pseudo scientist and Bill Clinton a cokehead drug runner. I think that covers it.

  • Linkamathingy

    precautionary principle has so many drawbacks that people never talk about. like limiting the development of the third world by telling them they can only use expensive alternative energies. Fuck cap and trade

  • Gregory

    This is hilarious. Thanks, disinformation for posting this as it needs to be revealed. Of course the reality is that pointing out that a few people in the scientific community do not have any clothes, climate change at least partially due to human activity is a naked fact.

    “Fairness” in the media today is the journalistic equivalent of an Abbot and Costello routine. Watch any cable new show and the “news” is a brief blurp about the issue then they bring out two people most usually from the far side of the arguments and they yell at each other for a few minutes.

    Today on Faux News, have gray aliens visited our planet…on the left, leading scientist in the field Professor Roger Q Dungbeetle and on the right, Horace Goatboinker. Prof Dungbeetle, has ET come to your home?

    Oh no, Melissa…oh, by the way, I loved you in “MILFs in Michigan” before you got into journalism…there is no substantial evidence whatsoever that there are any such things as extraterrestials or evidence of UFOs, etc. There is only the belief in them, as folks believe in Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster or that Michael Jackson never diddled with those kids.

    Mr Goatboinker, how do you resp…

    WELL MELISSA, AND YOU MOST WERE AWESOME IN “BLONDES IN BONDAGE IN BIRMINGHAM” BEFORE YOU GOT INTO CABLE NEWS, I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN BEAMED UP BY ALIENS THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THE ONES IN “CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE NAUGHTY KIND” AND THEY FUCKED ME IN MY GALLBLADDER AND NOW I CARRY SEVERAL GREY ALIEN FETUSES IN A POCKET BETWEEN MY NAVEL AND MY SMALL INTESTINES.

    Well, thanks for that, Horace and nice tinfoil hat you have there, Prof Dungbeetle do you

    I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT YOU THINK “BLONDES IN BONDAGE IN BIRMINGHAM” WAS BETTER THAN “MILFs IN MICHIGAN,” IF ANYTHING MELISSA’S BEST WORK WAS IN “GANGBANGING SARAH PALIN IN A BLACK PRISON” WHICH IS WHAT BROUGHT HER ATTENTION TO FAUX NEWS IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT GETTING BACK TO THE…

    THIS IS JUST LIKE YOU LIBERAL DREAMY EYED-INTELLECTUALS GETTING OFF ON “GANG BANGING SARAH PALIN” I GUESS YOU LIKE “WHO’S NAILING PALIN?” AND “GLENN BECK AND THE BUTTBURGLERS” AS WELL!

    Now wait a minutes gentlemen…

    NO I DID NOT CARE FOR “WHO’S NAILING PALIN” BECAUSE MELISSA HERE WAS NOT IN THAT MOVIE BUT I DID LIKE “ORAL ABUSE FOR OBAMA” IN WHICH MELISSA FORCES A DILDO DOWN A BOUND BLACK MAN WHO LOOKED LIKE…

    I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU LIKED ME IN “ORAL ABUSE,” SURELY YOU AGREE THAT

    etc etc etc

  • Oknotko

    *Puts on Tinfoil hat*

  • Belcat

    Assuming this is even correct, we are using far more resources now than we were in the 1970’s… so the calculation would need to be redone, and as always, consideration for how much land would be left for food, etc, would need to be made too.

    People have been searching for efficient ways of producing hydrogen and nothing good has yet to come up, so I would assuming this process isn’t efficient, or isn’t doable in a practical way (much like there are solar panels that are twice as efficient as the current ones, but they require such rare minerals, they aren’t worth it anywhere except in space or on calculator solar cells which are tiny). It is possible to make hydrogen from solar cells for example, but that process has some losses, and batteries have less losses. (Although, it would be easier to store lots of hydrogen than battery electricity – at this time…)

  • Belcat

    I believe the conservative movement likes the focus to be on global warming, then they can avoid real issues, like oil spills, and other pollution…

  • Zota

    “It also claimed that water supplies for between 75 million and 250 million people in Africa will be at risk by 2020 due to climate change, but the real range is between 90 and 220 million.”

    So the report says that at minimum, 15 million MORE Africans are at risk due to climate change.
    Sadly, this is the exact opposite of disproving climate change.

    On a related note – the title “disinformation” used to be a little more self-reflexive. Buthis is pretty straightforward one-dimensional disinformation.

  • Zota

    “It also claimed that water supplies for between 75 million and 250 million people in Africa will be at risk by 2020 due to climate change, but the real range is between 90 and 220 million.”

    So the report says that at minimum, 15 million MORE Africans are at risk due to climate change.
    Sadly, this is the exact opposite of disproving climate change.

    On a related note – the title “disinformation” used to be a little more self-reflexive. Buthis is pretty straightforward one-dimensional disinformation.

  • Drewski

    malatesting — That was either very funny and 100% inaccurate or supremely stupid and 100% inaccurate

  • Drewski

    Past temperature rises may have preceded CO2, however, that in no way deflects from the fact that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and captures heat at wavelengths that H2O doesn’t . IPCC is an organization of 192 countries of every political stripe. Man produced CO2 puts out more in 3 days than all the world’s volcanoes (on land and undersea) put out in a year — and it is increasing.

    Now who is the crackhead?

  • Goatomatic5000

    ok, well, lets say that man made global warming is total bullshit. can you tell me the same about pollution in general? no? well, then we still can not continue to go about our merry way of pumping the by-products of “better living through chemistry” out into the world just because the producers of said by-products dont want to let the cost of being accountable for their mess take away from the profit margin.

  • Goatomatic5000

    ok, well, lets say that man made global warming is total bullshit. can you tell me the same about pollution in general? no? well, then we still can not continue to go about our merry way of pumping the by-products of “better living through chemistry” out into the world just because the producers of said by-products dont want to let the cost of being accountable for their mess take away from the profit margin.

  • misiu_mp

    “Among the blunders in the 2007 report were claims that 55 per cent of the Netherlands was below sea level when the figure is 26 per cent.”

    See Duchpeople, there is no reason to worry – only 26% of your country will be flooded. No biggie!

  • misiu_mp

    “Among the blunders in the 2007 report were claims that 55 per cent of the Netherlands was below sea level when the figure is 26 per cent.”

    See Duchpeople, there is no reason to worry – only 26% of your country will be flooded. No biggie!

  • Rags123

    Julia Gillard and Bob (Idiot) Brown are killing Australia with this bullshit Carbon Dioxide tax.Lies, lies, lies and more bullshit Global warming.

  • Rags123

    Julia Gillard and Bob (Idiot) Brown are killing Australia with this bullshit Carbon Dioxide tax.Lies, lies, lies and more bullshit Global warming.

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