Murdering People Who Disagree With You

The 10:10 organisation — heavily funded by big industry — just released and then promptly withdrew — a “funny” mini-film featuring the murder of schoolchildren who disagree with their wacky beliefs:

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  • dumbsaint

    Thanks Fergal, that was pretty awesome.

    Reminds me of more great brit humour:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NShPoOohY0

    • FergalR

      Indeed, the joke was funny when it was original and not part of governmental/industrial backed social movement (EDIT: and didn’t involve children). I was a big fan of Blackadder myself. Pity.

      • dumbsaint

        I thought the kids blowing up was pretty funny.(EDIT: I want one of those buzzers for my next flight). Politically unwise maybe but I’m sure the kids had a blast filming it (hurr). It’s not real you know. Perhaps the ‘big industry’ on the other side of the fence should get one of their funded organizations to produce a video about how we can all get along.

        • FergalR

          “Perhaps the ‘big industry’ on the other side of the fence”

          There is no big industry on the other side of the fence.

          • dumbsaint

            I guess you only have mom and pop operations like, oh, ExxonMobil. right?

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/01/exxon-mobil-climate-change-sceptics-funding

          • FergalR

            Wow, hundred of thousand of pounds eh?

            How’s about the $100million ExxonMobil is giving to Stanford to promote the confidence trick:
            http://gcep.stanford.edu/about/sponsors.html

          • dumbsaint
          • FergalR

            Right and all of Exxon’s lobbying money made the EPA declare CO2 a pollutant?Open your eyes.

            “Then there’s these guys:”
            Even if that were not just made up it would still be less than what Exxon gave to support the confidence trick.

          • dumbsaint

            Where’s my buzzer?

          • FergalR

            Good luck finding it. I wouldn’t count on you telling your arse from your elbow.

          • FergalR

            Oh, wait, I get it, dumbsaint. Exxon are giving two orders of magnitude more cash to their opponents as some sort of double-limited hangout-multiple bluff. You should link a donate button to pay for extra layers on your tinfoil hat.

          • dumbsaint

            You clearly don’t get much. Providing funding for research of new technologies is not the same thing as providing funding for political lobby.

            Exxon has had extremely messy public relations over this issue. If you seriously trying to position Exxon on the side of environmentalists that’s nothing short of mental.

          • FergalR

            Yeah. They explained the retrograde motion of the planets around the geocentric universe by discovering endless celestial spheres.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Fergal, that was pretty awesome.

    Reminds me of more great brit humour:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NShPoOohY0

  • Anonymous

    Indeed, the joke was funny when it was original and not part of governmental/industrial backed social movement (EDIT: and didn’t involve children). I was a big fan of Blackadder myself. Pity.

  • Anonymous

    I thought the kids blowing up was pretty funny.(EDIT: I want one of those buzzers for my next flight). Politically unwise maybe but I’m sure the kids had a blast filming it (hurr). It’s not real you know. Perhaps the ‘big industry’ on the other side of the fence should get one of their funded organizations to produce a video about how we can all get along.

  • Anonymous

    “Perhaps the ‘big industry’ on the other side of the fence”

    There is no big industry on the other side of the fence.

  • Anonymous

    I guess you only have mom and pop operations like, oh, ExxonMobil. right?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/01/exxon-mobil-climate-change-sceptics-funding

  • Anonymous

    Wow, hundred of thousand of pounds eh?

    How’s about the $100million ExxonMobil is giving to Stanford to promote the confidence trick:
    http://gcep.stanford.edu/about/sponsors.html

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Oh, wait, I get it, dumbsaint. Exxon are giving two orders of magnitude more cash to their opponents as some sort of double-limited hangout-multiple bluff. You should link a donate button to pay for extra layers on your tinfoil hat.

  • Anonymous

    Right and all of Exxon’s lobbying money made the EPA declare CO2 a pollutant?Open your eyes.

    “Then there’s these guys:”
    Even if that were not just made up it would still be less than what Exxon gave to support the confidence trick.

  • Anonymous

    You clearly don’t get much. Providing funding for research of new technologies is not the same thing as providing funding for political lobby.

    Exxon has had extremely messy public relations over this issue. If you seriously trying to position Exxon on the side of environmentalists that’s nothing short of mental.

  • Anonymous

    Where’s my buzzer?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah. They explained the retrograde motion of the planets around the geocentric universe by discovering endless celestial spheres.

  • Anonymous

    Good luck finding it. I wouldn’t count on you telling your arse from your elbow.

  • http://twitter.com/thegoodhuman David Quilty

    Not about murdering people; it’s about what happens if no one does anything. Yes, it’s tasteless and way too over the top, but that’s the message – not “murder” if you dont agree.

    Would also love to know what the “big industry” is that you claim funded it. Links we can check out?

    • FergalR

      Pressing a button that makes peoples’ heads explode isn’t murder?

      Your second sentence makes no sense, please clarify.

      10:10’s sponsors: http://www.1010global.org/uk/partners

      • dumbsaint

        lol. Sony.

        • FergalR

          Eaga the renewable energy company. The British taxpayer is spending £100 Billion on windmills.

          lol

          • gemmarama

            to be fair, they are putting those windmills all over the western isles, where i am now, and where it is currently blowing a force ten gale. and this is an average day.

            wind power doesn’t seem so silly up here.

          • FergalR

            Windmills don’t generate power in a force ten gale.

          • gemmarama

            i didn’t say they do. the winds change in seconds here. it’s now calmed down to a breezy 16kmph and i can see the ten wind turbines up at dunvegan spinning merrily from my window.

          • FergalR

            Right, my apologies, you said a force ten gale was an average day.

            Those turbines are about 17% efficient. Half what the industry claimed.

            http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/news/Windfarms-only-giving-half-power.6426015.jp

          • gemmarama

            unfortunately they’re not perfect. they’re also backed up by generators for when it’s not windy. some people up here think tidal power is the answer as, well, the tide always comes in, but the environmental implications to marine life are considerable… wish someone would just hurry up with that perpetual motion machine.

          • meta-skeptic

            don’t beg anybody’s pardon, you need better reading comprehension. it reads “…currently blowing a force ten gale. and this is an average day.” as opposed to “…currently blowing a force ten gale and this is average.”

          • FergalR

            My reading comprehension is just fine. You should begin sentences with capital letters.

            That goes for you and your sock-puppet. *rolls eyes*

          • gemmarama

            capital letters a tool of capitalist oppression. i too have abandoned them entirely.

            plus i’m lazy.

          • http://twitter.com/TonyNeilsen Tony Neilsen

            I agReE witH yOu gemmarama – using caps is a total waste of time for chit chat and comments (unless one wants to denote importance or something like that. As in God or Jesus or Mercedes Benz or Janis Joplin.

          • 5by5

            To be technically correct, one TYPE of windmill design has to actually slow the amount of spinning done by the blades due to the role vibration plays on the structure, but other, newer designs (like DNA turbines) handle much more powerful winds better, from more directions (especially useful on inner city rooftops) with virtually no issues with vibration. As with everything else, the technology gets better with time.

            And had we continued to fund research at the proper levels, we’d no doubt be even further ahead, but one of Bush’s first acts after he stole office was to cut alternative energy research funding by 50%. Because he’s a moron and an oil energy shill, with an oil industry shill puppetmaster in DICK Cheney. Now THAT’s doing the bidding of big industry…. indeed those two are big industry’s bitches.

          • FergalR

            Show me one type of windmill that generates power in a force ten gale. Other than the power to tear itself apart if the brakes fail.

            It’s depressing that you’ve been brainwashed into thinking that Bush is any different from Clinton or Obama. They’re all playing on the same team.

            How do you like 10:10’s awesome video?

      • FergalR

        3 days later:

        They did have corporate sponsors, I swear ;)

    • 5years

      Wrong. In the clip, the teacher very deliberately pushes a button, which kills the children. It’s not about “what happens if no one does anything”, as it is not natural consequences portrayed in the video. “You disagree, we’ll murder you” is clearly the message.

  • http://twitter.com/thegoodhuman David Quilty

    Not about murdering people; it’s about what happens if no one does anything. Yes, it’s tasteless and way too over the top, but that’s the message – not “murder” if you dont agree.

    Would also love to know what the “big industry” is that you claim funded it. Links we can check out?

  • Anonymous

    Pressing a button that makes peoples’ heads explode isn’t murder?

    Your second sentence makes no sense, please clarify.

    10:10’s sponsors: http://www.1010global.org/uk/partners

  • Anonymous

    lol. Sony.

  • Anonymous

    Eaga the renewable energy company. The British taxpayer is spending £100 Billion on windmills.

    lol

  • Andrew

    Don’t knock the idea. If you had a button like that you could get rid of all the corporate CEOs peddling the AGW lie!

  • Andrew

    Don’t knock the idea. If you had a button like that you could get rid of all the corporate CEOs peddling the AGW lie!

  • gemmarama

    to be fair, they are putting those windmills all over the western isles, where i am now, and where it is currently blowing a force ten gale. and this is an average day.

    wind power doesn’t seem so silly up here.

  • gemmarama

    this. is. just. bizarre.

  • gemmarama

    this. is. just. bizarre.

    • Sylvan

      Not really a response but I am short on time and don’t seem to see the post spot. Like that you are commenting on things YOU can see as opposed to things shown to us onscreen.

      Anyway I think the ice age is coming to an end and the earth is returning to a more normal temperature. I also think this normal temperature is not at all good for humans. AND I agree with the posters who advocate an end to pollution, toxic waste dumping and the sludge and red toxic mud flowing into some very interesting places, the e-coli filtering into the water table, the garbage dump being built underground in Simcoe County Ontario Canada which will contaminate a vast reservoir of very pure water in a huge aquifer, etc. etc.etc. Exxon Valdez, BP, chemical waste, the white foam in the great lakes and in the rivers which feed them, the children with cancer. Chernobyl. and all the rest. Now…when I tire of this computer or need to get rid of my old shoes or wish to dispose of my waste or that of my animals I am going to compound the problem. When I buy a bottle of vitamins I am compounding the problem. When I buy toys for the less fortunate at christmas they must be new and in the vast amount of packaging. So – I compound the problem further. Global warming makes no sense. Pollution is the issue at hand. The planet is going to get hotter. Colder would be preferable as we deal better with that. The heating is being accelerated but not caused by humans and their herds. We can deal with it but it will not be fun.

  • oman28

    Not offensive – but not really funny either.

    10:10 ? I’ll stick to 4:20

  • Anonymous

    Not offensive – but not really funny either.

    10:10 ? I’ll stick to 4:20

  • Sun

    kind of reminds me of Islam on the issue of religion

    • http://twitter.com/TonyNeilsen Tony Neilsen

      Bingo! That’s exactly what the Koran dictates – kill those who won’t convert!

      • Sylvan

        Nope. Roman Catholics. Check out the Huguenot massacres in France.

  • Sun

    kind of reminds me of Islam on the issue of religion

  • Anonymous

    Windmills don’t generate power in a force ten gale.

  • gemmarama

    i didn’t say they do. the winds change in seconds here. it’s now calmed down to a breezy 16kmph and i can see the ten wind turbines up at dunvegan spinning merrily from my window.

  • Anonymous

    Right, my apologies, you said a force ten gale was an average day.

    Those turbines are about 17% efficient. Half what the industry claimed.

    http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/news/Windfarms-only-giving-half-power.6426015.jp

  • gemmarama

    unfortunately they’re not perfect. they’re also backed up by generators for when it’s not windy. some people up here think tidal power is the answer as, well, the tide always comes in, but the environmental implications to marine life are considerable… wish someone would just hurry up with that perpetual motion machine.

  • meta-skeptic

    don’t beg anybody’s pardon, you need better reading comprehension. it reads “…currently blowing a force ten gale. and this is an average day.” as opposed to “…currently blowing a force ten gale and this is average.”

  • Anonymous

    My reading comprehension is just fine. You should begin sentences with capital letters.

    That goes for you and your sock-puppet. *rolls eyes*

  • Nano Thermite

    Wow… This is what happens when your pseudoscience isn’t fooling anyone anymore.
    You have to resort to insinuate torture and dismemberment for the non-believers.

    Also the entire assumption that Co2 beyond 350 ppm is a danger zone is entirely fabricated.
    We have had pre-industrial concentrations of Co2 well beyond 350 ppm since the mid 19th century.

    -Nano

    • Nano Thermite

      resort to insinuating I mean ;)

    • 5by5

      No sugar, the “pseudoscience” is what you believe. I’m looking at research from reputable climatologists from over 120 countries who all show their data pointing in the same direction — man-made catastrophic climate change. But then you’re the type who probably doesn’t “believe” in the science of evolutionary change either. Here’s the thing — it doesn’t require your belief. It’s a fact whether you believe it or not.

  • Nano Thermite

    Wow… This is what happens when your pseudoscience isn’t fooling anyone anymore.
    You have to resort to insinuate torture and dismemberment for the non-believers.

    Also the entire assumption that Co2 beyond 350 ppm is a danger zone is entirely fabricated.
    We have had pre-industrial concentrations of Co2 well beyond 350 ppm since the mid 19th century.

    -Nano

  • Nano Thermite

    resort to insinuating I mean ;)

  • Paulmurphy216

    Who ON EARTH thought that was a good idea? Its not even funny and actually works against what they’re trying to say….

    • Andrew

      Maybe 10:10 is a false flag operation, which would explain its funding.

  • Paulmurphy216

    Who ON EARTH thought that was a good idea? Its not even funny and actually works against what they’re trying to say….

  • Andrew

    Maybe 10:10 is a false flag operation, which would explain its funding.

  • gemmarama

    capital letters a tool of capitalist oppression. i too have abandoned them entirely.

    plus i’m lazy.

  • http://twitter.com/TonyNeilsen Tony Neilsen

    when are people going to wake up that climate change is a lie – this carbon buzz word is nothing more than a push to impose a global tax on people to fund the NWO…

    • 5by5

      The hottest day on record here in L.A. has probably put them to sleep — or more accurately, into heat stroke. Seriously, pick up a science book for a change of pace. Then you’ll sound less like an idiot.

  • http://twitter.com/TonyNeilsen Tony Neilsen

    when are people going to wake up that climate change is a lie – this carbon buzz word is nothing more than a push to impose a global tax on people to fund the NWO…

  • http://twitter.com/TonyNeilsen Tony Neilsen

    I agReE witH yOu gemmarama – using caps is a total waste of time for chit chat and comments (unless one wants to denote importance or something like that. As in God or Jesus or Mercedes Benz or Janis Joplin.

  • http://twitter.com/TonyNeilsen Tony Neilsen

    Bingo! That’s exactly what the Koran dictates – kill those who won’t convert!

  • Anonymous

    To be technically correct, one TYPE of windmill design has to actually slow the amount of spinning done by the blades due to the role vibration plays on the structure, but other, newer designs (like DNA turbines) handle much more powerful winds better, from more directions (especially useful on inner city rooftops) with virtually no issues with vibration. As with everything else, the technology gets better with time.

    And had we continued to fund research at the proper levels, we’d no doubt be even further ahead, but one of Bush’s first acts after he stole office was to cut alternative energy research funding by 50%. Because he’s a moron and an oil energy shill, with an oil industry shill puppetmaster in DICK Cheney. Now THAT’s doing the bidding of big industry…. indeed those two are big industry’s bitches.

  • Anonymous

    The hottest day on record here in L.A. has probably put them to sleep — or more accurately, into heat stroke. Seriously, pick up a science book for a change of pace. Then you’ll sound less like an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    No sugar, the “pseudoscience” is what you believe. I’m looking at research from reputable climatologists from over 120 countries who all show their data pointing in the same direction — man-made catastrophic climate change. But then you’re the type who probably doesn’t “believe” in the science of evolutionary change either. Here’s the thing — it doesn’t require your belief. It’s a fact whether you believe it or not.

  • Anonymous

    Show me one type of windmill that generates power in a force ten gale. Other than the power to tear itself apart if the brakes fail.

    It’s depressing that you’ve been brainwashed into thinking that Bush is any different from Clinton or Obama. They’re all playing on the same team.

    How do you like 10:10’s awesome video?

  • Anonymous

    The hottest day ever after the coldest Summer in decades? You poor thing. It’s call La Nina. That’s part of a natural cycle though so probably redacted from most of your science books. You haven’t got a clue.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/las-summer-ends-with-a-chill-it-was-the-coldest-in-decades.html

  • 5years

    Wrong. In the clip, the teacher very deliberately pushes a button, which kills the children. It’s not about “what happens if no one does anything”, as it is not natural consequences portrayed in the video. “You disagree, we’ll murder you” is clearly the message.

  • Anonymous

    3 days later:

    They did have corporate sponsors, I swear ;)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JR6QMHI5D3L6Z4JJBSAKO4KJBE brock

    20 years from now, when people are dieing by the millions in resource wars, someone will come across this video and say “oh, I get it now.” Or at least that’s the point I think they’re trying to make: this stuff is serious and people are going to die.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JR6QMHI5D3L6Z4JJBSAKO4KJBE brock

    20 years from now, when people are dieing by the millions in resource wars, someone will come across this video and say “oh, I get it now.” Or at least that’s the point I think they’re trying to make: this stuff is serious and people are going to die.

  • gemmarama

    people are already dying in “resource wars”.

    iraq? afghanistan?

  • Anonymous

    5 years from now, when people are dieing by the millions in resource wars and everyone realises global warming was a scam to tax everyone, everyone will laugh at this video and say “thank fuck those brainwashed pseudointellectuals shot themselves in the foot.”

  • Hoofa22

    Iraq was arguably a resource motivated war; Afghanistan was to disrupt a growing network of ever more capable militants — while its execution has been flawed, let’s not re-write the history books in regards to its motivation just yet.

  • Hoofa22

    Actually the point of the video is to lampoon those seen as fringe liberals who ordain those not concerned and or involved with fighting climate change as evil/corrupt/etc, so the point is a litte different than your interpretation. Very subtle propaganda is the most effective, no?

  • gemmarama
  • And3w

    Oh christ, get a sense of humour will you, it is supposed to be a funny, light-hearted wake up call to people who believe in doing nothing to prevent that ‘wacky’ belief held by many, many people including thew vast majority of scientists qualified to comment on climate change.
    personally, even as a Brit, I don’t find it very funny, but it is well within the bounds of normal for British comedy.
    I am not sure quite how well FergallR is qualified in commenting either on the humour (not being a Brit) or on the ‘wacky’ belief that we ar doing bad things to our planets climate (not being a climate change, or even an Earth Sciences scientist. Until he is I shall treat what he says much as I treat this film – funny but in no way something to take any notice of in a serious discussion.

    • guest51

      First of all who cares if you’re Brit it has nothing to with this wanker of a video. Did I use the slang wanker right?

      This propaganda is a big business con job on the people that only big business can talk intelligently about our climate. What does big business have to gain if we all just shut our mouths and let the big business dictate the debate?

      Your BP Oil messed up the Gulf of Mexico and wanted the people of the United States to pay for the cleanup. That is the big business solution to all debates. They take all the profits and we pay for all the cleanup.

      So while you are doing your sex with big business which in my opinion is disgusting, the rest of us would like to say this video is bullocks. Did I get that slang right?

      • gemmarama

        your use of “wanker” is wholly incorrect.

        so what if BP is a british company? are you trying to say an american corporation has never done anything wrong? they’re a multinational, it doesn’t matter where they were founded, they’re scum.

        “doing your sex with big business”? is english your first language?

        a bullock is a male bovine.

        wanker (correct usage).

        • guest51

          Thank you for the lesson. One question, “the last line in your post, is that supposed to apply to you?”

          Please don’t pretend that I knew British slang, if I did I wouldn’t be asking if I was correct or not.

          In reply to your question, “is english is my first language?”, I wasn’t taught the King’s English, if that is what you are getting at. My apologies for not being proper. It’s just that I thought it would mislead people as to what class I belong to if I said something like, “Kissing big Business arse”, or is “ass” your cup of tea?

          Your defense of BP is astonishing, bravo, “So what if BP is a british company?” I’m speechless.

          But hey let’s bury the hatchet. I’m on your side. I’m with you on they’re all scum. If you want to make me a joke go for it, I’m big enough to laugh at myself. P.S. I really do not know British slang and I’m sincere about that.

          • gemmarama

            i’d suggest that if you don’t understand how to use a certain vocabulary, you go with something more familiar to you? that way, far from being “proper”, you might just make some sense.why are you so concerned with class? all i was “getting at” is that your phrasing is somewhat bizarre.i don’t know how exactly you’re interpreting me calling them “scum” as a “defence” of BP… all i was saying is that it doesn’t really help anyone blaming the country of its origin for a company’s sins. the folk who run BP have about as much in common with the average british person as the people in charge of exxon mobil have with the general US population. these people are evil; their nationality is irrelevant.

  • And3w

    Oh christ, get a sense of humour will you, it is supposed to be a funny, light-hearted wake up call to people who believe in doing nothing to prevent that ‘wacky’ belief held by many, many people including thew vast majority of scientists qualified to comment on climate change.
    personally, even as a Brit, I don’t find it very funny, but it is well within the bounds of normal for British comedy.
    I am not sure quite how well FergallR is qualified in commenting either on the humour (not being a Brit) or on the ‘wacky’ belief that we ar doing bad things to our planets climate (not being a climate change, or even an Earth Sciences scientist. Until he is I shall treat what he says much as I treat this film – funny but in no way something to take any notice of in a serious discussion.

  • Tor

    Absolutely is the best thing I’ve ever seen.

  • Tor

    Absolutely is the best thing I’ve ever seen.

  • guest51

    First of all who cares if you’re Brit it has nothing to with this wanker of a video. Did I use the slang wanker right?

    This propaganda is a big business con job on the people that only big business can talk intelligently about our climate. What does big business have to gain if we all just shut our mouths and let the big business dictate the debate?

    Your BP Oil messed up the Gulf of Mexico and wanted the people of the United States to pay for the cleanup. That is the big business solution to all debates. They take all the profits and we pay for all the cleanup.

    So while you are doing your sex with big business which in my opinion is disgusting, the rest of us would like to say this video is bullocks. Did I get that slang right?

  • gemmarama

    your use of “wanker” is wholly incorrect.

    so what if BP is a british company? are you trying to say an american corporation has never done anything wrong? they’re a multinational, it doesn’t matter where they were founded, they’re scum.

    “doing your sex with big business”? is english your first language?

    a bullock is a male bovine.

    wanker (correct usage).

  • guest51

    Thank you for the lesson. One question, “the last line in your post, is that supposed to apply to you?”

    Please don’t pretend that I knew British slang, if I did I wouldn’t be asking if I was correct or not.

    In reply to your question, “is english is my first language?”, I wasn’t taught the King’s English, if that is what you are getting at. My apologies for not being proper. It’s just that I thought it would mislead people as to what class I belong to if I said something like, “Kissing big Business arse”, or is “ass” your cup of tea?

    Your defense of BP is astonishing, bravo, “So what if BP is a british company?” I’m speechless.

    But hey let’s bury the hatchet. I’m on your side. I’m with you on they’re all scum. If you want to make me a joke go for it, I’m big enough to laugh at myself. P.S. I really do not know British slang and I’m sincere about that.

  • Timothy

    I love that, I really wish that it ran on American television!!

    Timothy

    :o)

  • Timothy

    I love that, I really wish that it ran on American television!!

    Timothy

    :o)

  • Lucifer

    What And3w said, it was a fun knee joke people, fuck why are you taking small things so serious anyway, you’re just going to die, and taking it seriously will just stress you out and kill yourself faster.
    They have known for more than 50 years the patterns of heating and cooling and also CO2 levels. You know, once upon a time most of the world was CO2, plants use it then give out oxygen, that’s why 20% of our air is oxygen today, YAY. Lighten the fuck up, oh, and grow frontal lobes people.

  • Lucifer

    What And3w said, it was a fun knee joke people, fuck why are you taking small things so serious anyway, you’re just going to die, and taking it seriously will just stress you out and kill yourself faster.
    They have known for more than 50 years the patterns of heating and cooling and also CO2 levels. You know, once upon a time most of the world was CO2, plants use it then give out oxygen, that’s why 20% of our air is oxygen today, YAY. Lighten the fuck up, oh, and grow frontal lobes people.

  • droo

    The Climate Change debate is just another plot to generate hate and make people stupider. Should we pollute the environment? No. Is simple carbon going to cause the world to fucking end? No. We are fucking made of carbon. The real issue is TOXIC WASTE and POLLUTION in the water and air. Remember when we fucking cared about THAT issue? Stop taking one of these two “Sides” you are presented with on this pseudo issue. Same thing as the evolution debate, the abortion debate etc. There are rational ways to think about these things which do not include taking a “Side”. BTW, the monty python skit was funny, but this video shows how fucked Britain is in terms of social psychology and stigma.

  • droo

    The Climate Change debate is just another plot to generate hate and make people stupider. Should we pollute the environment? No. Is simple carbon going to cause the world to fucking end? No. We are fucking made of carbon. The real issue is TOXIC WASTE and POLLUTION in the water and air. Remember when we fucking cared about THAT issue? Stop taking one of these two “Sides” you are presented with on this pseudo issue. Same thing as the evolution debate, the abortion debate etc. There are rational ways to think about these things which do not include taking a “Side”. BTW, the monty python skit was funny, but this video shows how fucked Britain is in terms of social psychology and stigma.

  • adasfsa

    FergalR, you’re either the biggest troll, or the dumbest person I’ve seen online, both of which is saying alot

  • samthor

    seems a little over the top.
    especially since all i can think about are people who are dying from cancer and disease brought on by industrial waste dumped into the environment.
    maybe climate change is false…. but it doesn’t mean you get to dump mercury into my water supply.

  • Anonymous

    seems a little over the top.
    especially since all i can think about are people who are dying from cancer and disease brought on by industrial waste dumped into the environment.
    maybe climate change is false…. but it doesn’t mean you get to dump mercury into my water supply.

  • Sylvan

    Not really a response but I am short on time and don’t seem to see the post spot. Like that you are commenting on things YOU can see as opposed to things shown to us onscreen.

    Anyway I think the ice age is coming to an end and the earth is returning to a more normal temperature. I also think this normal temperature is not at all good for humans. AND I agree with the posters who advocate an end to pollution, toxic waste dumping and the sludge and red toxic mud flowing into some very interesting places, the e-coli filtering into the water table, the garbage dump being built underground in Simcoe County Ontario Canada which will contaminate a vast reservoir of very pure water in a huge aquifer, etc. etc.etc. Exxon Valdez, BP, chemical waste, the white foam in the great lakes and in the rivers which feed them, the children with cancer. Chernobyl. and all the rest. Now…when I tire of this computer or need to get rid of my old shoes or wish to dispose of my waste or that of my animals I am going to compound the problem. When I buy a bottle of vitamins I am compounding the problem. When I buy toys for the less fortunate at christmas they must be new and in the vast amount of packaging. So – I compound the problem further. Global warming makes no sense. Pollution is the issue at hand. The planet is going to get hotter. Colder would be preferable as we deal better with that. The heating is being accelerated but not caused by humans and their herds. We can deal with it but it will not be fun.

  • Sylvan

    Nope. Roman Catholics. Check out the Huguenot massacres in France.

  • gemmarama

    i’d suggest that if you don’t understand how to use a certain vocabulary, you go with something more familiar to you? that way, far from being “proper”, you might just make some sense.why are you so concerned with class? all i was “getting at” is that your phrasing is somewhat bizarre.i don’t know how exactly you’re interpreting me calling them “scum” as a “defence” of BP… all i was saying is that it doesn’t really help anyone blaming the country of its origin for a company’s sins. the folk who run BP have about as much in common with the average british person as the people in charge of exxon mobil have with the general US population. these people are evil; their nationality is irrelevant.

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