Why Won’t Israel and the U.S. Define Borders With Palestine?

israelSeems like a reasonable demand by the Palestinians – why the reluctance from Israel and big brother U.S.? From AFP:

RAMALLAH, Palestinian Territories — The Palestinians on Wednesday called on the US administration and Israel to define borders in response to Israel’s demand for recognition as the Jewish state.

“We officially demand that the US administration and the Israeli government provide a map of the borders of the state of Israel which they want us to recognise,” senior Palestinian official Yasser Abed Rabbo told AFP.

His remarks came after the US State Department asked the Palestinians to extend a counter-proposal to Israel’s call for recognition as a “Jewish state” in exchange for a possible extension of restrictions on settlement building.

The Palestinians rejected the offer, saying recognition of Israel’s Jewish identity had no relation to the peace process. They instead demanded that the US administration set the 1967 lines as the starting point for negotiations about final borders.

“We want to know whether this (Israeli) state includes our lands and houses in the West Bank and east Jerusalem,” Abed Rabbo said, referring to Palestinian lands occupied during the 1967 Six Day War.

“If this map is based on the 1967 borders and provides for the end of the Israeli occupation over all Palestinian lands… then we recognise Israel by whatever name it applies to itself in accordance with international law,” he said, without elaborating.

“We are awaiting a response from Tel Aviv and Washington,” he added…

[continues at AFP]

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24 Comments on "Why Won’t Israel and the U.S. Define Borders With Palestine?"

  1. Hadrian999 | Oct 13, 2010 at 4:36 pm |

    no jewish state should ever be recognized by anyone,
    neither should any other state based on religion, it is a recipe
    for persecution and division.

  2. Hadrian999 | Oct 13, 2010 at 12:36 pm |

    no jewish state should ever be recognized by anyone,
    neither should any other state based on religion, it is a recipe
    for persecution and division.

    • Hunter_Rose5 | Oct 13, 2010 at 2:16 pm |

      but if that were to be the case….what would happen to countries run by muslim sharia law?? as evil as the jews are….ive yet to hear of jewish hierarchy decapitating or stoning one of their own.let alone allow women to harbor free and independent thought.

      • Islamic theocracies shouldn’t exist either; but frankly, if you don’t see Israel committing atrocities on par with their Muslim counterparts, you’re not looking hard enough.

      • Hadrian999 | Oct 13, 2010 at 4:01 pm |

        doing your murder with a fancy gadget doesn’t make it any less brutal

      • Judaic law has its own ways of killing people…only slower.

    • I often ask people what country jews come from and they inevitably reply “Israel” Wrong. Juadaism is a religion not a nationality. Jews come from all over the world.

  3. Hunter_Rose5 | Oct 13, 2010 at 6:16 pm |

    but if that were to be the case….what would happen to countries run by muslim sharia law?? as evil as the jews are….ive yet to hear of jewish hierarchy decapitating or stoning one of their own.let alone allow women to harbor free and independent thought.

  4. Islamic theocracies shouldn’t exist either; but frankly, if you don’t see Israel committing atrocities on par with their Muslim counterparts, you’re not looking hard enough.

  5. Hadrian999 | Oct 13, 2010 at 8:01 pm |

    doing your murder with a fancy gadget doesn’t make it any less brutal

  6. Because genocide isn’t enabled by entering the talks with an intention of meeting demands (or even pre-existing commitments). As long as the victims are impoverished non-whites, there is no impetus of any kind to even remotely mitigate suffering.

    It all makes more sense once you understand the color code: brown people with guns and bombs = anarchy and terrorism…white people with guns and bombs = freedom and democracy.

  7. Because genocide isn’t enabled by entering the talks with an intention of meeting demands (or even pre-existing commitments). As long as the victims are impoverished non-whites, there is no impetus of any kind to even remotely mitigate suffering.

    It all makes more sense once you understand the color code: brown people with guns and bombs = anarchy and terrorism…white people with guns and bombs = freedom and democracy.

    • Hadrian999 | Oct 13, 2010 at 5:44 pm |

      if you really want to understand the war on terror all you need to do is read 1984

    • Why can’t they bomb people with F-16’s like civilized human beings!!!

  8. Judaic law has its own ways of killing people…only slower.

  9. Hadrian999 | Oct 13, 2010 at 9:44 pm |

    if you really want to understand the war on terror all you need to do is read 1984

  10. Anonymous | Oct 13, 2010 at 11:13 pm |

    I often ask people what country jews come from and they inevitably reply “Israel” Wrong. Juadaism is a religion not a nationality. Jews come from all over the world.

  11. Because its a land grab & I would hardly consider the US as an honest broker in these negotiations! Peter

  12. Because its a land grab & I would hardly consider the US as an honest broker in these negotiations! Peter

  13. Why can’t they bomb people with F-16’s like civilized human beings!!!

  14. E.B. Wolf | Oct 14, 2010 at 3:58 am |

    Wow. 9 Hours as of this comment and no Zionist apologist trolling the thread. That has to be some kind of a record.

  15. E.B. Wolf | Oct 13, 2010 at 11:58 pm |

    Wow. 9 Hours as of this comment and no Zionist apologist trolling the thread. That has to be some kind of a record.

  16. Anonymous | Oct 15, 2010 at 12:46 am |

    While I agree with each of your statements, I think the main purpose of a “Jewish” state has to do more with identity than religion. That way, a Jewish state will be run by Jewish people for Jewish people. Non-Jews living in Israel won’t need to apply for government jobs or run for office or expect social benefits because it is a “Jewish” state. Either way, it will lead to persecution and division.

  17. While I agree with each of your statements, I think the main purpose of a “Jewish” state has to do more with identity than religion. That way, a Jewish state will be run by Jewish people for Jewish people. Non-Jews living in Israel won’t need to apply for government jobs or run for office or expect social benefits because it is a “Jewish” state. Either way, it will lead to persecution and division.

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