Tea Party Plutocrat Lets The Mask of “Libertarianism” Slip

Tea Party Nation President Judson Phillips has suggested that only property owners be allowed to vote. What’s next, workhouses, child labor, or indentured servitude?

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  • Anonymous

    Kudos to you, Herr German, for bringing this to my attention.

    My only fear is that polysyllabic words like “pro-per-ty” might throw off the Tea Bag audience which would most benefit from this post.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Kudos to you, Herr German, for bringing this to my attention.

    My only fear is that polysyllabic words like “pro-per-ty” might throw off the Tea Bag audience which would most benefit from this post.

    • Hadrian999

      do you think it is attempt to disenfranchise large numbers of urban voters?

      • Liam_McGonagle

        You know, I’m not sure.

        To be honest I’ve never run the #’s for urban/suburban vs. rural homeownership, but I’m sure there are a few surprises there that would violate what I think is generally assumed to be a higher percentage of ‘property ownership’ out in the woods–however you define it. Certainly the mere fact of population density suggests that property values are likely to be relatively higher in urban areas.

        I’m fairly certain that people who would do best out of this deal actually live primarily in the city, and have the cash to splash about for summer homes and the like, and would therefore qualify. Since the intent seems to be to politically reinforce their already outsized economic power, I’m sure these assholes would like to include stock holdings as well as real estate.

      • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

        Hell…when has it ever been about anything else? Most of the GOP strategy hasn’t been about gaining anyones votes…its been about holding their hardcore base and preventing anyone else from showing up or being counted. They figured out awhile ago that you can’t champion frothing racists, bash Hispanics, slander the gays and crap on everyone making less than 100K a year and still win elections…unless you prevent the other side from making a showing at the polls. Lucky thing for them they have their own 24/7 TV network.

        • Liam_McGonagle

          Say, that’s true, idn’t it? They could never implement a “property test” without a detailed inventory of what everyone owned. Apart from the HUGE bureaucracy necessary to administer it, it sounds to me like nothing more than a stealth initiative to develop a detailed list to tax you against! I knew it! That damn sneaky gubmint’!

          I’m lodging a protest with my senator immediately!

  • Hadrian999

    perfect blend of the funny and frightening

  • Hadrian999

    perfect blend of the funny and frightening

  • Hadrian999

    do you think it is attempt to disenfranchise large numbers of urban voters?

  • Anonymous

    It matters not who gets to vote when the large majority of candidates are millionaires.

  • Tchoutoye

    It matters not who gets to vote when the large majority of candidates are millionaires.

  • Anonymous

    You know, I’m not sure.

    To be honest I’ve never run the #’s for urban/suburban vs. rural homeownership, but I’m sure there are a few surprises there that would violate what I think is generally assumed to be a higher percentage of ‘property ownership’ out in the woods–however you define it. Certainly the mere fact of population density suggests that property values are likely to be relatively higher in urban areas.

    I’m fairly certain that people who would do best out of this deal actually live primarily in the city, and have the cash to splash about for summer homes and the like, and would therefore qualify. Since the intent seems to be to politically reinforce their already outsized economic power, I’m sure these assholes would like to include stock holdings as well as real estate.

  • Haystack

    The leader of the “Tea Party” calls for taxation without representation.

    The “party of fiscal responsibility” pushes through $700 billion in deficit spending to extend tax cuts to the super rich.

    Obama is a “Socialist” because he gives public money to banks and auto manufacturers.

    Everything in American politics is ass backwards.

  • Haystack

    The leader of the “Tea Party” calls for taxation without representation.

    The “party of fiscal responsibility” pushes through $700 billion in deficit spending to extend tax cuts to the super rich.

    Obama is a “Socialist” because he gives public money to banks and auto manufacturers.

    Everything in American politics is ass backwards.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IQWEDG6PFI5Y64PGEBKYDSIDY Mark

      New flash: making 250K a year ain’t “super-rich” unless you’re in Bumblefuck, North Dakota. Try owning a house and raising two kids on that in a major city. Can you do it – probably. Do you have enough extra cash for a private island? No.

      Also – government ownership of the means of manufacturing is indeed a socialist principle. If you’ve ever ridden in a Russian Lada or are brave enough to fly in a Tupolev 154 you will see how well that works. Perhaps the temporary government ownership of GM, Citigroup, and the rest was a trial run for the real thing.

      • Liam_McGonagle

        Wow. You have a hard time budgeting $250k a year? I hope to dear God no one’s paying you to work as a financial manager.

        ‘Cause over 98% had to manage (somehow!) with less than $250k AGI in 2009. In fact, $250k is just about 427% of the AGI of the median filer in 2009.

        But you know how it is. Poor folk just have to learn to make due. Maybe they buy their Beluga Caviar on Super-Coupon Tuesdays, when they double their value at the local boutique grocery.

        Get a clue.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IQWEDG6PFI5Y64PGEBKYDSIDY Mark

          “Poor folk just have to learn to make due. Maybe they buy their Beluga Caviar on Super-Coupon Tuesdays, when they double their value at the local boutique grocery”

          Nah, they just go to Whole Foods with their taxpayer handouts:

          http://tinyurl.com/28bwm4s

          I hear the Japanese Eggplant is to die for!

          • Liam_McGonagle

            LOL. I’ll have to take your word for it on the Japanese Eggplant. I’m more a steak and potatoes guy myself.

            But just imagine–if a project dweller can buy Japanese Eggplant on their paltry little stipend– imagine what the elite filers can buy with the $70,656 per year they’ve EACH stolen from the Treasury since 1965 (i.e., $478 BILLION aggregate).

            http://dystopiadiaries.blogspot.com/2010/12/whats-difference-between-greatest.html

            (Table 2)

            Damn, Mark, I wouldn’t have believed it possible if I hadn’t seen it before my own eyes, but you just keep getting stupider and stupider.

      • Haystack

        I hate to break it to you, but most people I know would consider it a luxury to own a house in a high-end real estate market and be able to afford a family on top of that. You might as well complain that you’re having trouble making payments on your gold-plated yacht. Borrowing money to subsidize your lifestyle means an additional tax burden on the rest of the country in the form of rising interest on the national debt. Maybe you think think about spending less, like the rest of us?

        So far I haven’t noticed the government planning GM’s new truck line, but I will be required to buy health insurance from a private company. If Obama is plotting socialism, it’s curious that Wall Street so enthusiastically funded his presidential campaign, and have supplied so many of his financial advisors.

        Having been a member of the Socialist Workers Party, I have a pretty good sense of what Socialism is, and I don’t see it anywhere in Obama’s agenda…and it’s a real shame. People should give what they are able and receive what they need.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Crazier still…how narrowly would they define property ownership? Would you hold a lease on a place and still vote…or would you even be out of the loop until you paid off the house and had no mortgage? Its a can of worms that shouldn’t be opened…because the world has already been there…and worked damn hard to get away from that benighted place. There should be no applause for feudalisms leftovers…and the idea of people who call themselves patriots embracing this swill is a caricature of politics as usual.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Crazier still…how narrowly would they define property ownership? Would you hold a lease on a place and still vote…or would you even be out of the loop until you paid off the house and had no mortgage? Its a can of worms that shouldn’t be opened…because the world has already been there…and worked damn hard to get away from that benighted place. There should be no applause for feudalisms leftovers…and the idea of people who call themselves patriots embracing this swill is a caricature of politics as usual.

    • Hadrian999

      it would be a very good way to keep liberal urban centers largely out of play.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IQWEDG6PFI5Y64PGEBKYDSIDY Mark

    New flash: making 250K a year ain’t “super-rich” unless you’re in Bumblefuck, North Dakota. Try owning a house and raising two kids on that in a major city. Can you do it – probably. Do you have enough extra cash for a private island? No.

    Also – government ownership of the means of manufacturing is indeed a socialist principle. If you’ve ever ridden in a Russian Lada or are brave enough to fly in a Tupolev 154 you will see how well that works. Perhaps the temporary government ownership of GM, Citigroup, and the rest was a trial run for the real thing.

  • chinagreenelvis

    Pat Buchannan makes a good statement and answers the question as thoroughly and as fully as he can, and all these jerks want is YES OR NO WHAT YES OR NO FUCK YOU IT’S TV WE’RE ALL STUPID OUR VIEWERS ARE STUPID YOUR ANSWERS ARE TOO COMPLEX

  • chinagreenelvis

    Pat Buchannan makes a good statement and answers the question as thoroughly and as fully as he can, and all these jerks want is YES OR NO WHAT YES OR NO FUCK YOU IT’S TV WE’RE ALL STUPID OUR VIEWERS ARE STUPID YOUR ANSWERS ARE TOO COMPLEX

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Hell…when has it ever been about anything else? Most of the GOP strategy hasn’t been about gaining anyones votes…its been about holding their hardcore base and preventing anyone else from showing up or being counted. They figured out awhile ago that you can’t champion frothing racists, bash Hispanics, slander the gays and crap on everyone making less than 100K a year and still win elections…unless you prevent the other side from making a showing at the polls. Lucky thing for them they have their own 24/7 TV network.

  • fanny adams

    but how many of you are willing (like your forefathers)to fight for your freedom back,no-one is listening to anyones plight…..or are to frightened of their own employment future to say,under these circumstances only violence and evil can prevail!

  • fanny adams

    but how many of you are willing (like your forefathers)to fight for your freedom back,no-one is listening to anyones plight…..or are to frightened of their own employment future to say,under these circumstances only violence and evil can prevail!

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Wow. You have a hard time budgeting $250k a year? I hope to dear God no one’s paying you to work as a financial manager.

    ‘Cause over 98% had to manage (somehow!) with less than $250k AGI in 2009. In fact, $250k is just about 427% of the AGI of the median filer in 2009.

    But you know how it is. Poor folk just have to learn to make due. Maybe they buy their Beluga Caviar on Super-Coupon Tuesdays, when they double their value at the local boutique grocery.

    Get a clue.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Say, that’s true, idn’t it? They could never implement a “property test” without a detailed inventory of what everyone owned. Apart from the HUGE bureaucracy necessary to administer it, it sounds to me like nothing more than a stealth initiative to develop a detailed list to tax you against! I knew it! That damn sneaky gubmint’!

    I’m lodging a protest with my senator immediately!

  • Hadrian999

    it would be a very good way to keep liberal urban centers largely out of play.

  • Wes

    He uh … didn’t suggest anything. Way to go Matthews. I think the people veiwing this little video greatly outnumbers the actual veiwers of this waste of tv space.

  • Wes

    He uh … didn’t suggest anything. Way to go Matthews. I think the people veiwing this little video greatly outnumbers the actual veiwers of this waste of tv space.

  • Haystack

    I hate to break it to you, but most people I know would consider it a luxury to own a house in a high-end real estate market and be able to afford a family on top of that. You might as well complain that you’re having trouble making payments on your gold-plated yacht. Borrowing money to subsidize your lifestyle means an additional tax burden on the rest of the country in the form of rising interest on the national debt. Maybe you think think about spending less, like the rest of us?

    So far I haven’t noticed the government planning GM’s new truck line, but I will be required to buy health insurance from a private company. If Obama is plotting socialism, it’s curious that Wall Street so enthusiastically funded his presidential campaign, and have supplied so many of his financial advisors.

    Having been a member of the Socialist Workers Party, I have a pretty good sense of what Socialism is, and I don’t see it anywhere in Obama’s agenda…and it’s a real shame. People should give what they are able and receive what they need.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IQWEDG6PFI5Y64PGEBKYDSIDY Mark

    “Poor folk just have to learn to make due. Maybe they buy their Beluga Caviar on Super-Coupon Tuesdays, when they double their value at the local boutique grocery”

    Nah, they just go to Whole Foods with their taxpayer handouts:

    http://tinyurl.com/28bwm4s

    I hear the Japanese Eggplant is to die for!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7IQWEDG6PFI5Y64PGEBKYDSIDY Mark

    “Poor folk just have to learn to make due. Maybe they buy their Beluga Caviar on Super-Coupon Tuesdays, when they double their value at the local boutique grocery”

    Nah, they just go to Whole Foods with their taxpayer handouts:

    http://tinyurl.com/28bwm4s

    I hear the Japanese Eggplant is to die for!

  • Anonymous

    LOL. I’ll have to take your word for it on the Japanese Eggplant. I’m more a steak and potatoes guy myself.

    But just imagine–if a project dweller can buy Japanese Eggplant on their paltry little stipend– imagine what the elite filers can buy with the $70,656 per year they’ve EACH stolen from the Treasury since 1965 (i.e., $478 BILLION aggregate).

    http://dystopiadiaries.blogspot.com/2010/12/whats-difference-between-greatest.html

    (Table 2)

    Damn, Mark, I wouldn’t have believed it possible if I hadn’t seen it before my own eyes, but you just keep getting stupider and stupider.

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