Racism Row Over DC’s Muslim Superhero

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From Comics Alliance:

“Another day, another racist freakout over non-white superheroes. But unlike the hilariously dishonest racism we saw when the Council of Conservative Citizens called for a boycott of Marvel’s Thor movie on account of a mythical Norse god’s depiction as a black man, a recent round of conservative attacks on Nightrunner — DC’s Muslim Batman of Paris — are prejudicial in a more insidious way. While the CCC put forth a laughably tenuous justification for their outrage, it was with respect to one specific character in one specific context. The argument against Nightrunner, led by conservative blogger Warner Todd Huston, is based on the bigoted belief that a Muslim superhero is by definition an exercise in deceitful political correctness, and that Muslims are natively evil.

Introduced in this month’s Detective Comics Annual #12 and Batman Annual #28, Nightrunner is a 22-year-old Algerian Muslim who’s lived in Paris his entire life (it seems reasonable to assume he was born in France, but at the very least he was raised there). Born Billai Asseiah, the character is uncommonly adept at the highly YouTubeable gymnastic form known as parkour. That and Asseiah’s sense of justice make him an ideal recruit for Bruce Wayne’s new Batman, Inc. initiative, whereby he franchises Batmen to cities all over the world.”

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  • Hadrian999

    right wingers love to get upset about comics anytime the hero isn’t an ultra nationalist white male.
    a few years ago they were upset that captain america wasn’t used as pro war propaganda and instead contrasted the ethics that made the country strong with today’s win at any cost corporate driven corruption.

  • Hadrian999

    right wingers love to get upset about comics anytime the hero isn’t an ultra nationalist white male.
    a few years ago they were upset that captain america wasn’t used as pro war propaganda and instead contrasted the ethics that made the country strong with today’s win at any cost corporate driven corruption.

  • 5by5

    Christian religious wackjobs = worried about cartoons.
    Muslim religious wackjobs = worried about cartoons.

    Seriously, these people need a hobby. I recommend macrame.

  • 5by5

    Christian religious wackjobs = worried about cartoons.
    Muslim religious wackjobs = worried about cartoons.

    Seriously, these people need a hobby. I recommend macrame.

    • http://twitter.com/BasculeTheFule Sean Gibbins

      “Seriously, these people need a hobby. I recommend macrame.”

      Or alternatively chainsaw juggling. With nitroglycerin. And blindfolds.

  • Anonymous

    Muslims being innately evil would have made for awesome superheros in the 1990s. There’s a pretty good chance Todd Macfarlane has already released ‘Muslim Spawn’ action figures.

  • dumbsaint

    Muslims being innately evil would have made for awesome superheros in the 1990s. There’s a pretty good chance Todd Macfarlane has already released ‘Muslim Spawn’ action figures.

    • not as dumb

      Actually Todd’s on record as not believing in God, so he probably wouldn’t be as gullible as you are to be condemning an entire group of people as evil. U should drop the “saint” in your name.

  • Sgt Sludge

    If you read the article, he blames Muslims for political unrest in France. Assuming that to be the case, he then argues that making a Muslim French superhero is an insidious distortion of current events. The word “evil” does not appear in the article, and he explicitly states that the idea of a Muslim superhero is not explicitly wrong. He seems to have a problem with the context that this character operates within.

    I cannot vouch for the accuracy of any of his arguments, or if he is actually biased against those of Muslim faith and is merely masking it with the wording of the article. Regardless of your opinion on any of those matters, it would be nice if we could summarize the article correctly.

  • Sgt Sludge

    If you read the article, he blames Muslims for political unrest in France. Assuming that to be the case, he then argues that making a Muslim French superhero is an insidious distortion of current events. The word “evil” does not appear in the article, and he explicitly states that the idea of a Muslim superhero is not explicitly wrong. He seems to have a problem with the context that this character operates within.

    I cannot vouch for the accuracy of any of his arguments, or if he is actually biased against those of Muslim faith and is merely masking it with the wording of the article. Regardless of your opinion on any of those matters, it would be nice if we could summarize the article correctly.

  • JoJoDancer

    People do freak out over the damnedest things. Black Jesus was a huge deal, but he made it, so now we have Black Jesus. So the freak out was in vain.

    So I wonder what would happen if I produced a play with a whiteman cast as Martin Luther King, Jr. Or an Asian Che Guevara. I’ll bet multiculturalists would rush to my defense and protect my rights to express such stories regardless of the skin tones.

  • JoJoDancer

    People do freak out over the damnedest things. Black Jesus was a huge deal, but he made it, so now we have Black Jesus. So the freak out was in vain.

    So I wonder what would happen if I produced a play with a whiteman cast as Martin Luther King, Jr. Or an Asian Che Guevara. I’ll bet multiculturalists would rush to my defense and protect my rights to express such stories regardless of the skin tones.

    • Tuna Ghost

      If Jesus did in fact exist, then he was most certainly closer to black than white, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Also, seeing as how the character is a new one and not simply recasting Bruce Wayne as a french muslim, I don’t know why you’re bringing in MLK or Che Guevara into it.

      Just like anti-racism laws are not there to protect the ethnic majority, I doubt the multiculturalism push is there to help white people either.

      • JoJoDancer

        Sorry to be unclear. I was thinking more of the brief reference to black Thor than the main story about the Muslim hero.

        But just to keep the record straight, Jesus was most likely a swarthy Semite, not afro-black. Black Jesus is as artificially constructed as White Jesus.

        I only brought it up because the people who press for racial protection in the name of “fair play” clearly choose favorite races to protect. I mentioned those two examples flippantly, but also to point out the double standard one always confronts on the issue of race: People rally around Black Jesus and Black Thor–both historically false but emotionally satisfying–but we all know that a white MLK would bring down the wrath of Black Jesus faster than you could say “Christian-Newsom.”

        If multiculturalism is not there to protect the ethnic majority, explain to me why federal affirmative action policies still exist in places like Memphis, New Orleans, and Detroit. National minorities are an overwhelming local majority there, yet the benefits and protections still apply. That’s not “fair,” that’s favortism.

        White, brown, or black: hypersensitive, self-serving chest-thumpers are a dime a dozen. If you are going to mock the CCC for being ridiculous, then let’s hear the outcry against the Nation of Islam, or the NAACP for that matter. Same animal, different color. It’s not about fairness, it’s about favorites–on both sides of the racial divide.

        • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

          There is no black Thor…just a black Heimdall. The controversy is because Heimdall (according to the Council of Conservative Citizens aka Lonely Nutters With Lots Of Time) should be played by a white man because the Norse Gods, being of Scandinavian origin, deserve a melanin deprived representative when filmed….because otherwise there will be rains of frogs and blood, hordes of locusts, cats and dogs living together…end of the world type stuff.

          • JoJoDancer

            Duly noted. Personally, I prefer my Norse gods to be a sickly, zombie-like grey.

            It’s true, everybody’s afraid these days–desperately, pitifully afraid. Black man gonna get me. White man gonna get me. Gay man gonna get me. Government gonna get me. Aliens gonna get me. Devil gonna get me. Comic book character gonna get me!!

            If there’s nothing to fear but fear itself, we should all be horrified at the ridiculous amount of fear pulsing through the planet.

          • Tuna Ghost

            Well I personally have a tendency to imagine gods resembling the vast majority of their worshippers in general appearance, but anthropomorphizing is rarely a way to gain an accurate image of something. Heimdall was called “Heimdall the White” in some texts, and this has led people to think of Heimdall being some ultra-white fella–but really, in a nation where EVERYONE is super-white, I can’t imagine people naming their gods “So-and-so the White (Skinned)”. I always figured it was like “Gandalf the White”, referencing his purity or hair or garments or whatever.

          • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

            lol. True…but its Hollywood…I endure their casting choices with an annoyed shrug rather than read more into them than is necessary. After all…they couldn’t get Constantine right…a middle aged blond British ex-punk/sorcerer became Keanu Reeves…so as far as Thor goes, we’re pretty much lucky the cast is even human…it could have just as easily been done with CGI anthropomorphic monkeys on rollerskates.

        • Tuna Ghost

          If multiculturalism is not there to protect the ethnic majority, explain to me why federal affirmative action policies still exist in places like Memphis, New Orleans, and Detroit. National minorities are an overwhelming local majority there, yet the benefits and protections still apply. That’s not “fair,” that’s favortism.

          Because its a federal program and the nation is still predominantly white, and run by a system that is still heavily in favor of being white. I’m not saying affirmative action in these places is still a good idea, but I’m not sure the state has the power to get rid of it, or if they want to. Speaking as someone who lived in Detroit, the people in Detroit don’t always have a lot of job options outside the city. A Detroit address on a job application still carries quite a bit of baggage with it in employer’s minds. Public education there is in the shitter, a third of the population lives below the poverty line, old mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was a goddam crook, etc. etc.

          White, brown, or black: hypersensitive, self-serving chest-thumpers are a dime a dozen. If you are going to mock the CCC for being ridiculous, then let’s hear the outcry against the Nation of Islam, or the NAACP for that matter. Same animal, different color. It’s not about fairness, it’s about favorites–on both sides of the racial divide.

          We’ve been hearing the outcry for quite some time now. You can bet Islamic people in the US have been hearing the outcry since 9/11, and the NAACP since its inception. The reason the anti-racism laws don’t protect all races equally is because the the power is not held in this country by all races equally. Not even close. White people don’t need protection from or by anti-racism laws, because pretty much everything else is set up in favor of white people.

          • JoJoDancer

            “White people don’t need protection from or by anti-racism laws, because pretty much everything else is sut up in favor of white people.”

            Do you mean suburban, middle-to-upper class white people? Because if that’s what you mean, I might be inclined to agree with you. Otherwise, let me tell you as someone who comes from the sticks, you’re better off with a Detroit address on your application. Or any social introductions. Or in the environment of higher education.

          • Tuna Ghost

            Well white entitlement covers all classes of white people, the rest is class entitlement (also a problem in this country). Statistics show that given a certain income, black people are still stopped and/or arrested far more often by police than white individuals of the same income level.

            One is tempted to claim “I get stopped by the cops all the time despite being white, it’s because I look poor and wear urban-style clothes!” While I won’t deny someone’s firsthand experience, the point is that they are exhibiting signs associated with minorities (in the minds of authority figures, here meaning policemen), i.e. poor and urban clothing. The negative association with that status and that clothing style are still coming from negative associations regarding race. I mean, the phrase “white trash” is essentially “white people acting like (insert ethnic slur here)”.

            The comment about black people from Detroit being better off in regard to employment or education opportunities than white people from the sticks is argued against very vehemently by activists. Judging from my own experience, and by employment and education statistics in the state of Michigan, I agree with them completely.

          • JoJoDancer

            I must respectfully disagree. The existence of an overarching force-field of “white entitlement” is a secular myth–a conceptual remnant of a by-gone era of Jim Crow laws (nearly fifty years ago.) Racial entitlement varies from locale to locale, from institution to institution. There are specific areas and specific institutions which prefer whites over all other races, but there is no all-protecting American/Western umbrella under which all whites can stand, and there are plenty of areas and institutions that reserve entitlement for non-whites–arguably out of proportion to demographics.

            The fact that whites are practically the only race that does not clamor for special entitlement isn’t a result of an overwhelming “white entitlement” so much as the fact that whites are basically prohibited from even speaking of their own racial identity unless it is to claim collective guilt–though the Tea Party is quickly becoming the de facto voice of white belly-aching.

            In regards to the second statement, I agree that black people are stopped and arrested more often. I would also remind you that black people are responsible for crime more often than white people–exponentially so. You could argue that the disproportionate crime statistics are the result of desperate acts by individuals disenfranchised by white entitlement, but then you would basically excuse the crimes and justify the fact of disproportionate police response.

            Personally, I understand the tremendous unfairness of innocent blacks being hassled by the police. Living in black majority cities, I have narrowly avoided getting shot for the simple fact that I am a white target in the “wrong neighborhood” on a number of occasions. My “white entitlement” wasn’t potent enough to save me from tribal territorialism–an instinct that trumps all constructs such as “social justice.”

          • dirty johnny

            “The fact that whites are practically the only race that does not clamor for special entitlement isn’t a result of an overwhelming “white entitlement” so much as the fact that whites are basically prohibited from even speaking of their own racial identity unless it is to claim collective guilt…”

            Wow. Why are white people so picked upon? Most be the darkies ganging up on us again. This burden does grow heavy with the years… Silenced like Helen Keller. Like we had a yen for ball-gags. It’s a goddamn shame. It’s almost as if every major officially recognized and protected information conduit in this global culture wasn’t owned and operated by white people. When I think victim, I think of a White American. There he is- standing on stolen land, driving a Nazi car, wearing slave cotton and slurping down plantation java… oppressed to the point his spine might snap.

            If it is taboo to talk about whiteness or Euro-descended racial identity then you have the same institutions to blame who suppressed the many “mud races”. It certainly isn’t BET’s vast influence or those pesky brown folks.

            “I agree that black people are stopped and arrested more often. I would also remind you that black people are responsible for crime more often than white people–exponentially so.”

            Clearly, black people commit more crimes. How do we know? We arrest them more often — exponentially so… Why do we arrest them more often? Because they commit more crimes. How do we know? Because we arrest them more…

          • JoJoDancer

            Did you write this from a comfortable chair, in a climate-controlled environment, with a full belly, generally safe from physical assault? If so, who is the victim that you are now indebted to?

            And do you really believe that all races commit crimes in equal proportions, that the crime statistics are just the creation of unfair police profiling and a white supremacist justice system?

            I left my final response below, but I will certainly come back to read your response.

          • dirty johnny

            I strive for an honest and hard look at my own historical location. The luxuries my child and I enjoy are not neutral or innocent. They are, as most American luxuries are, dripping blood on our shag carpets. The desirable position is not one of purity and righteousness. Few of us are pure enough to afford righteousness. The desirable position, from my perspective, is one in which you have the patience, dilligence and willingness to investigate one’s own historical position and potential ethical/political power.

            Americans by definition have substantial political influence, yet the “powers that be” have effectively convinced this population that they are impotent. The poorest among us has significant wealth when viewed from an international perspective. Even our reprehensible overconsumption means that a politically-based shift in personal buying choices carries disproportionate weight. In my view the missing piece of conciousness is not “white guilt”, but rather a deepening awareness of our historical location combined with the immence potency of the average American.

            I’m not out to claim the position of superiority or innocence you accuse me of. I make daily decisions with an eye on the often hidden political meaning of said decision. I generally buy used and/or local. I try to minimize my energy consumption. I clearly don’t do enough as I’m the owner of a car. I’m also not the white guy singing “Why’s everybody always picking on me…”

            There are vast problems with the race dialogue in this country. Let’s keep in mind they are not all the fault of minorities. These dialogues are monopolized by the same white power structure that tosses black folks the “WB” as if it were a real sign of representation. You’ve got the whole, “well i got beat up by a Jewish kid in school” approach to race. Yeah, no shit, but it’s still a holocaust… Blacks, Mexicans and Asians aren’t the ones obstructing a real discussion of white identity, the primarily white elite are. My theory is that you can’t discuss whiteness because it will quickly fragment into specific Euro-identities and they need it to be the non-existant presumed American normality. If you say American, you implicitly mean a white middle class male, although even white middle class males with 2.5 kids don’t match the profile. It’s a fantasy, but it’s a fantasy that significant numbers of people identify with and feel protective of even though it does nothing for them.

            I don’t believe the races commit crimes in equal proportions. I never said I did. I am saying that you can’t even get close to an accurate look at this issue, though. There is so much systemic racism in the criminal justice system that these statistics are useless. The powdered cocaine vs. crack cocaine issue is an obvious example of a racially differentiated stance. It’s not a matter of “white supremacy” or a conspiracy against anybody. There is no conspiracy. It’s simply the self-reinforcing presence of a half-millenium of racism and oppression. It doesn’t take an investigative journalist to spot it. The black community has little accumulated wealth. The black community got CIA crack under it’s Christmas tree in the 80′s. The black community gets longer sentence for the same crimes. The black community gets pulled over more often, searched more often and sentenced more often. The criminal justice system is at war with the American poor, and more specifically, the brown poor. So, in this sense, yes, crime statistics ARE a product of profiling and a racially differentiated justice system. That should be no big surprise. But, it’s no conspiracy, it’s just the continuation of history. It is exactly the result of what has been.

            I’m gonna give your final response some consideration before I put my thoughts down. This has been an interesting discussion and I’m getting ready for a trip tomorrow. I don’t want to be too glib this time…

          • Tuna Ghost

            There is no conspiracy. It’s simply the self-reinforcing presence of a half-millenium of racism and oppression. It doesn’t take an investigative journalist to spot it. The black community has little accumulated wealth. The black community got CIA crack under it’s Christmas tree in the 80′s. The black community gets longer sentence for the same crimes. The black community gets pulled over more often, searched more often and sentenced more often. The criminal justice system is at war with the American poor, and more specifically, the brown poor. So, in this sense, yes, crime statistics ARE a product of profiling and a racially differentiated justice system.

            Very quickly, because someone keeps making all my points for me: yes, this.

          • JoJoDancer

            Well put. Perhaps we do not disagree on as many things as I would have imagined.

          • Tuna Ghost

            Dirty Johnny beat me to it, but regarding these points:

            There are specific areas and specific institutions which prefer whites over all other races, but there is no all-protecting American/Western umbrella under which all whites can stand, and there are plenty of areas and institutions that reserve entitlement for non-whites–arguably out of proportion to demographics.

            These specific institutions that prefer whites to non-whites are the US government and the US military and the US corporate culture and the vast majority of the US media. Throw in property management and real estate as well. Combined, they are largely responsible for the culture in US. The US was literally built with the notion of whites being superior to other races. That fact hasn’t just magically disappeared, and neither have those institutions that were responsible for it nor the institutions kept afloat because of it.

            The fact that whites are practically the only race that does not clamor for special entitlement isn’t a result of an overwhelming “white entitlement” so much as the fact that whites are basically prohibited from even speaking of their own racial identity unless it is to claim collective guilt…

            White racial identity is proclaimed constantly on television, in movies, in almost every aspect of American culture. This is why the notion of entitlement is so hard to grasp–it’s everywhere, so it’s invisible to those benefitting from it.

            I would also remind you that black people are responsible for crime more often than white people–exponentially so.

            My counter-argument would run along the lines of: well, black people are arrested far more often for doing the same things whites do. I know anecdotal evidence is next to worthless in an online forum, but as a former substance abuser with more than a few run-ins with the law, I can speak on this from experience.

          • JoJoDancer

            For neatness’ sake, I left your response below, after dirty johnny’s lengthy missive.

          • that1guy

            “a by-gone era of Jim Crow laws (nearly fifty years ago.)”
            50 years is not nearly as long as you’d like to think.
            You can still meet white people who were present at lynchings in the 50s or who rioted over desegregation. 7 years ago, we still had Strom Thurmond in the senate.

          • Butter Knife

            White people who are treated poorly because of their habits or address can adopt new habits or move, either might be a challenge, but those are entirely changeable class markers.

            A black person who is treated poorly because of their skin color cannot change that. They could try developing new habits or moving, and many do, but there is substantial evidence suggesting that doing so only slightly improves the situation and they will still be treated poorly because of their skin color.

            Does that clear it up for you at all?

          • that1guy

            “The reason the anti-racism laws don’t protect all races equally”

            Some do. Depends on the law. Hate crimes legislation has been effectively used to prosecute bias-motivated crimes against white people, which seems fair enough to me.

        • diry johnny

          “It’s not about fairness, it’s about favorites–on both sides of the racial divide.” This statement is an important undercurrent in the racial dialogue within the United States.

          So many of these discussions rage on and die out without much familiarity with the perspectives of brown(er) folks. Their perspectives and philosophies are replaced with homogenized “official representatives” and the complexities of situational diversity are never approached. What you wind up with is a sort of corrupt union boss monopolizing a population’s “otherness”; using their “people” as lever, often for political ends which fail to “trickle down” said people. I’m sure you can all think of plenty of examples… On the other end you have white people of all stripes lumped into one category, resenting one another’s company and spitting mad at the self-elected representatives of “other” races. But at least a portion of this big compulsory squaredance is trying to be fair and considered, and they wind up posting well-thought-out comments on threads like this, detailing the “unfairness” of the race dialogue in response to the corrupt “race bosses” and the narrative they weave in the major media. The unfortunate thing is that this entire discussion neatly bypasses brown people.

          For the record, I don’t have a strong opinion about affirmative action.

          Memphis, New Orleans and Detroit have affirmative action policies because majorities don’t matter. Racism manifests in different forms and the cultural/social/personal form isn’t really the issue, structural racism is the issue. It’s not a matter of micro-level personal decisions, it’s the overarching difference in the numbers. The boss that overtly dislikes black people is not making the difference. Corporate America adopting a culture of professionalism excluding any outward expression of blackness is the problem. The racist cop isn’t the problem, the fact that black people are more likely to have run-ins with all cops is the problem.

          It isn’t about fairness. It never has been. Your reference point is a story. It wasn’t about fairness when genocide was happening. It wasn’t about fairness when people took their rights back. It wasn’t about fairness when some bueracrats crafted affirmative action or negotiated with unions in order to pacify the angry public. It’s always been about power.
          Fairness is a story, like democracy, free markets and the “level playing field”. We tell these stories as if our history made a different sort of sense than it really does. There is a sense to the story of competing powers, but we avoid seeing it and saying it. It is too difficult and painstaking for peoples to reach any real treaty in this world.

          “White people” want to say, after all this time, “My bad. It’s all good, though. I won’t hold your color against you any more. I know you’ve been deprived of self-knowledge, raped, educated for the purposes of the master culture, robbed of your wealth and left for dead; but we’re going to call it even. The Swiss get to keep the Jewish gold, America pays no reparations, the Vatican keeps the spoils of every crime since the Nazerene… But, if we say it’s even, it’s even. Our cultures and institutions are built on the interest earned off of your stolen sweat and breath, but it’s fair now. We’ll even fight the badly-written, beuracratic remedies to this history that fall flaccid, all in the name of fairness. ”

          It’s not about fairness, because it’s not about choice. You talk about it like our choices were all we had to live with, and we had absolute authority to create the world and absolute responsibility for it’s state. The reality is, we live with history as a parent and an uninvited guest. Affirmative action is probably broken, ineffective and unfair, but it is a concretized exertion of power. Be honest about the many powers exerting in the opposite direction and you cannot be nearly so indignant about the so-called “unfairness” of it all. It isn’t about fairness. It never has been. Your reference point is a story.

          • JoJoDancer

            To the Tuna Ghost’s claim that the US government, US military, and US corporate culture exclusively prefer whites to non-whites, I would say that to the extent that race is a factor, these monoliths gather a certain type of white person: creative but conformist, ambitious but subservient, permeable to ideals but materialistic enough to depend on the wealth that holds one to a specific course.

            I would point to Barack Obama, Colin Powell, and Jay-Z, respectively, as three examples of black people who are clearly a part of the three monoliths you mention. While they are exceptions rather than the rule, you would either have to propose a conspiracy in which they are simply token blacks put into place to appease the masses–thus negating their accomplishments–or else you have to admit that the doors of power are open to anyone of any color willing and able to toe the party line. This has not always been so, but it certainly seems to be the case today.

            It is not a race issue so much as a class issue. If white privilege exists, can I please get my voucher?

            We have digressed way off the original topic of black Batmen, but I am completely out of my element on the topic of comic book characters–thus my off-base references. I stirred this up with my white MLK remark, and I still say that if inverting the race of Nordic gods does not come off as disrespectful, you should be able to live with other such inversions. If skin tones are sacred, then all skin tones are sacred–even white.

            Personally, I can live with any racial inversion. In fact, I can live with anything not pushed into my face.

            On the subject of race, I realize that I tread on sensitive territory and will not launch into a more detailed thesis on the subject than what is presented here. As stimulating as this has been, I will end by saying this:

            No race is inherently guilty and none inherently innocent–no matter what the sins of one’s ancestors were or the sins that one has suffered. We are born to varying degrees of privilege and deprivation, and while it is certainly noble to want to change the world, it is far more realistic to change yourself.

            Left-wing propaganda would have you believe that as a white person you oppress the less fortunate by the very air that you breathe, that because people of another generation who looked like you perpetrated evil, you are now somehow responsible. Well then, are Mexicans then culpable for Aztec atrocities? Are blacks then tainted by the evils of the black West Africans who sold their ancestors into slavery?

            Nonsense. You are responsible for nothing more than yourself and your actions. And if there are complex karmic tendrils that tie each of us to the sins of our fathers (or someone else’s fathers-of-the-same-continent), then I don’t imagine that heavily funded government policies or indignant sign-waving will smooth out those wrinkles of injustice.

            I give everyone an equal chance. I give to the poor when the poor can’t help themselves. I pay my taxes. I even recycle and ride my bicycle, for God’s sake. I don’t owe anyone outside my family and friends anything.

            Does this make me a malevolent cog in the system?

            If I misread you, Tuna and Dirty, if you are not pointing an accusing finger at me, a lower-class born Southern boy who works his ass off to make ends meet, telling me that I am somehow part of a white elite power structure, in fact, claiming that I am responsible for their evil machinations by my very whiteness, then I apologize for my vehement defense. My bad, dog.

            Peace out.

          • Butter Knife

            If the real measure is “how well does this person conform to the expectation”, with at least some acceptance of the fact that nobody will conform to absolutely (because doing so is frankly impossible), and one of the points of expected conformity is “look like everyone else’, then we can fairly easily surmise that being a minority might not disqualify an individual from gaining access to power, but it will be a clear obstacle to doing so.

            The difference must simply be made up elsewhere: GWB could be a recovered alcoholic and coke-head without ever really having to discuss either issue as president, BHO barely got away with admitting that he had smoked pot a couple of times, and is forced to routinely defend his (past?) tobacco smoking… if he even behaved in ways comparable to his own vice president, he likely couldn’t have a career in national politics; Hillary Clinton can be a woman with a troubled marital past and (somewhat laughable) rumors of homosexuality floating about for decades, Colin Powell, not so much; Eminem can get away with recording songs about murdering his ex-wife and ongoing long-term abuse of serious narcotics, Jay-Z is roundly criticized for using the word “bitch” and acknowledging the existence of drugs and drug users.

            Their achievements are no less valid, but they come with serious requirements of personal unimpeachabity that are substantially less rigorous for their white colleagues.

    • Brett

      “protect my rights to express such stories regardless of the skin tones” … you said it. they have a right to have a muslim algerian parkour hero, especially because that is obviously part of who is buying their comics

  • Tuna Ghost

    If Jesus did in fact exist, then he was most certainly closer to black than white, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Also, seeing as how the character is a new one and not simply recasting Bruce Wayne as a french muslim, I don’t know why you’re bringing in MLK or Che Guevara into it.

    Just like anti-racism laws are not there to protect the ethnic majority, I doubt the multiculturalism push is there to help white people either.

  • HagbardCeline

    I’m sure a big name comic based around a hero that just happened to be a recent immigrant from Mexico would cause riots in affluent subdivisions all across this benighted land.

  • HagbardCeline

    I’m sure a big name comic based around a hero that just happened to be a recent immigrant from Mexico would cause riots in affluent subdivisions all across this benighted land.

  • JoJoDancer

    Sorry to be unclear. I was thinking more of the brief reference to black Thor than the main story about the Muslim hero.

    But just to keep the record straight, Jesus was most likely a swarthy Semite, not afro-black. Black Jesus is as artificially constructed as White Jesus.

    I only brought it up because the people who press for racial protection in the name of “fair play” clearly choose favorite races to protect. I mentioned those two examples flippantly, but also to point out the double standard one always confronts on the issue of race: People rally around Black Jesus and Black Thor–both historically false but emotionally satisfying–but we all know that a white MLK would bring down the wrath of Black Jesus faster than you could say “Christian-Newsom.”

    If multiculturalism is not there to protect the ethnic majority, explain to me why federal affirmative action policies still exist in places like Memphis, New Orleans, and Detroit. National minorities are an overwhelming local majority there, yet the benefits and protections still apply. That’s not “fair,” that’s favortism.

    White, brown, or black: hypersensitive, self-serving chest-thumpers are a dime a dozen. If you are going to mock the CCC for being ridiculous, then let’s hear the outcry against the Nation of Islam, or the NAACP for that matter. Same animal, different color. It’s not about fairness, it’s about favorites–on both sides of the racial divide.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    There is no black Thor…just a black Heimdall. The controversy is because Heimdall (according to the Council of Conservative Citizens aka Lonely Nutters With Lots Of Time) should be played by a white man because the Norse Gods, being of Scandinavian origin, deserve a melanin deprived representative when filmed….because otherwise there will be rains of frogs and blood, hordes of locusts, cats and dogs living together…end of the world type stuff.

  • JoJoDancer

    Duly noted. Personally, I prefer my Norse gods to be a sickly, zombie-like grey.

    It’s true, everybody’s afraid these days–desperately, pitifully afraid. Black man gonna get me. White man gonna get me. Gay man gonna get me. Government gonna get me. Aliens gonna get me. Devil gonna get me. Comic book character gonna get me!!

    If there’s nothing to fear but fear itself, we should all be horrified at the ridiculous amount of fear pulsing through the planet.

  • Tuna Ghost

    If multiculturalism is not there to protect the ethnic majority, explain to me why federal affirmative action policies still exist in places like Memphis, New Orleans, and Detroit. National minorities are an overwhelming local majority there, yet the benefits and protections still apply. That’s not “fair,” that’s favortism.

    Because its a federal program and the nation is still predominantly white, and run by a system that is still heavily in favor of being white. I’m not saying affirmative action in these places is still a good idea, but I’m not sure the state has the power to get rid of it, or if they want to. Speaking as someone who lived in Detroit, the people in Detroit don’t always have a lot of job options outside the city. A Detroit address on a job application still carries quite a bit of baggage with it in employer’s minds. Public education there is in the shitter, a third of the population lives below the poverty line, old mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was a goddam crook, etc. etc.

    White, brown, or black: hypersensitive, self-serving chest-thumpers are a dime a dozen. If you are going to mock the CCC for being ridiculous, then let’s hear the outcry against the Nation of Islam, or the NAACP for that matter. Same animal, different color. It’s not about fairness, it’s about favorites–on both sides of the racial divide.

    We’ve been hearing the outcry for quite some time now. You can bet Islamic people in the US have been hearing the outcry since 9/11, and the NAACP since its inception. The reason the anti-racism laws don’t protect all races equally is because the the power is not held in this country by all races equally. Not even close. White people don’t need protection from or by anti-racism laws, because pretty much everything else is set up in favor of white people.

  • Matix

    Anyone remember Spawn? A black man that was a contract killer, gets murdered, comes back in order to prepare the way to lead Satan’s Army. Great Story, Great Series on HBO imo. I’m betting that got more attention from Christians then this did, and in the end, did it really hurt anyone? If it did, I’m guessing only those that seek to control everything and can’t remain open minded, just my two cents.

  • Matix

    Anyone remember Spawn? A black man that was a contract killer, gets murdered, comes back in order to prepare the way to lead Satan’s Army. Great Story, Great Series on HBO imo. I’m betting that got more attention from Christians then this did, and in the end, did it really hurt anyone? If it did, I’m guessing only those that seek to control everything and can’t remain open minded, just my two cents.

  • Tuna Ghost

    Well I personally have a tendency to imagine gods resembling the vast majority of their worshippers in general appearance, but anthropomorphizing is rarely a way to gain an accurate image of something. Heimdall was called “Heimdall the White” in some texts, and this has led people to think of Heimdall being some ultra-white fella–but really, in a nation where EVERYONE is super-white, I can’t imagine people naming their gods “So-and-so the White (Skinned)”. I always figured it was like “Gandalf the White”, referencing his purity or hair or garments or whatever.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    lol. True…but its Hollywood…I endure their casting choices with an annoyed shrug rather than read more into them than is necessary. After all…they couldn’t get Constantine right…a middle aged blond British ex-punk/sorcerer became Keanu Reeves…so as far as Thor goes, we’re pretty much lucky the cast is even human…it could have just as easily been done with CGI anthropomorphic monkeys on rollerskates.

  • JoJoDancer

    “White people don’t need protection from or by anti-racism laws, because pretty much everything else is sut up in favor of white people.”

    Do you mean suburban, middle-to-upper class white people? Because if that’s what you mean, I might be inclined to agree with you. Otherwise, let me tell you as someone who comes from the sticks, you’re better off with a Detroit address on your application. Or any social introductions. Or in the environment of higher education.

  • Tuna Ghost

    Well white entitlement covers all classes of white people, the rest is class entitlement (also a problem in this country). Statistics show that given a certain income, black people are still stopped and/or arrested far more often by police than white individuals of the same income level.

    One is tempted to claim “I get stopped by the cops all the time despite being white, it’s because I look poor and wear urban-style clothes!” While I won’t deny someone’s firsthand experience, the point is that they are exhibiting signs associated with minorities (in the minds of authority figures, here meaning policemen), i.e. poor and urban clothing. The negative association with that status and that clothing style are still coming from negative associations regarding race. I mean, the phrase “white trash” is essentially “white people acting like (insert ethnic slur here)”.

    The comment about black people from Detroit being better off in regard to employment or education opportunities than white people from the sticks is argued against very vehemently by activists. Judging from my own experience, and by employment and education statistics in the state of Michigan, I agree with them completely.

  • JoJoDancer

    I must respectfully disagree. The existence of an overarching force-field of “white entitlement” is a secular myth–a conceptual remnant of a by-gone era of Jim Crow laws (nearly fifty years ago.) Racial entitlement varies from locale to locale, from institution to institution. There are specific areas and specific institutions which prefer whites over all other races, but there is no all-protecting American/Western umbrella under which all whites can stand, and there are plenty of areas and institutions that reserve entitlement for non-whites–arguably out of proportion to demographics.

    The fact that whites are practically the only race that does not clamor for special entitlement isn’t a result of an overwhelming “white entitlement” so much as the fact that whites are basically prohibited from even speaking of their own racial identity unless it is to claim collective guilt–though the Tea Party is quickly becoming the de facto voice of white belly-aching.

    In regards to the second statement, I agree that black people are stopped and arrested more often. I would also remind you that black people are responsible for crime more often than white people–exponentially so. You could argue that the disproportionate crime statistics are the result of desperate acts by individuals disenfranchised by white entitlement, but then you would basically excuse the crimes and justify the fact of disproportionate police response.

    Personally, I understand the tremendous unfairness of innocent blacks being hassled by the police. Living in black majority cities, I have narrowly avoided getting shot for the simple fact that I am a white target in the “wrong neighborhood” on a number of occasions. My “white entitlement” wasn’t potent enough to save me from tribal territorialism–an instinct that trumps all constructs such as “social justice.”

  • Gregory

    Yeah, thet’s right, boys…string that French/Muslum, darkie enemy of Uhmurkah up…then we’re goin’ after any udder non-white superhero, fer sure. Haters of freedom an’ democracy, alla them.

    Uhm, excuse me, what about the most blatant of non-white, illegal alien of superheroes, aren’t you going to protest and lynch him?

    Hell, son, shore! Just point me to ‘im!

    Well, he lives in Metropolis and wears a red cape with a big S on it.

    Uhm, er…

  • Gregory

    Yeah, thet’s right, boys…string that French/Muslum, darkie enemy of Uhmurkah up…then we’re goin’ after any udder non-white superhero, fer sure. Haters of freedom an’ democracy, alla them.

    Uhm, excuse me, what about the most blatant of non-white, illegal alien of superheroes, aren’t you going to protest and lynch him?

    Hell, son, shore! Just point me to ‘im!

    Well, he lives in Metropolis and wears a red cape with a big S on it.

    Uhm, er…

  • diry johnny

    “It’s not about fairness, it’s about favorites–on both sides of the racial divide.” This statement is an important undercurrent in the racial dialogue within the United States.

    So many of these discussions rage on and die out without much familiarity with the perspectives of brown(er) folks. Their perspectives and philosophies are replaced with homogenized “official representatives” and the complexities of situational diversity are never approached. What you wind up with is a sort of corrupt union boss monopolizing a population’s “otherness”; using their “people” as lever, often for political ends which fail to “trickle down” said people. I’m sure you can all think of plenty of examples… On the other end you have white people of all stripes lumped into one category, resenting one another’s company and spitting mad at the self-elected representatives of “other” races. But at least a portion of this big compulsory squaredance is trying to be fair and considered, and they wind up posting well-thought-out comments on threads like this, detailing the “unfairness” of the race dialogue in response to the corrupt “race bosses” and the narrative they weave in the major media. The unfortunate thing is that this entire discussion neatly bypasses brown people.

    For the record, I don’t have a strong opinion about affirmative action.

    Memphis, New Orleans and Detroit have affirmative action policies because majorities don’t matter. Racism manifests in different forms and the cultural/social/personal form isn’t really the issue, structural racism is the issue. It’s not a matter of micro-level personal decisions, it’s the overarching difference in the numbers. The boss that overtly dislikes black people is not making the difference. Corporate America adopting a culture of professionalism excluding any outward expression of blackness is the problem. The racist cop isn’t the problem, the fact that black people are more likely to have run-ins with all cops is the problem.

    It isn’t about fairness. It never has been. Your reference point is a story. It wasn’t about fairness when genocide was happening. It wasn’t about fairness when people took their rights back. It wasn’t about fairness when some bueracrats crafted affirmative action or negotiated with unions in order to pacify the angry public. It’s always been about power.
    Fairness is a story, like democracy, free markets and the “level playing field”. We tell these stories as if our history made a different sort of sense than it really does. There is a sense to the story of competing powers, but we avoid seeing it and saying it. It is too difficult and painstaking for peoples to reach any real treaty in this world.

    “White people” want to say, after all this time, “My bad. It’s all good, though. I won’t hold your color against you any more. I know you’ve been deprived of self-knowledge, raped, educated for the purposes of the master culture, robbed of your wealth and left for dead; but we’re going to call it even. The Swiss get to keep the Jewish gold, America pays no reparations, the Vatican keeps the spoils of every crime since the Nazerene… But, if we say it’s even, it’s even. Our cultures and institutions are built on the interest earned off of your stolen sweat and breath, but it’s fair now. We’ll even fight the badly-written, beuracratic remedies to this history that fall flaccid, all in the name of fairness. ”

    It’s not about fairness, because it’s not about choice. You talk about it like our choices were all we had to live with, and we had absolute authority to create the world and absolute responsibility for it’s state. The reality is, we live with history as a parent and an uninvited guest. Affirmative action is probably broken, ineffective and unfair, but it is a concretized exertion of power. Be honest about the many powers exerting in the opposite direction and you cannot be nearly so indignant about the so-called “unfairness” of it all. It isn’t about fairness. It never has been. Your reference point is a story.

  • dirty johnny

    “The fact that whites are practically the only race that does not clamor for special entitlement isn’t a result of an overwhelming “white entitlement” so much as the fact that whites are basically prohibited from even speaking of their own racial identity unless it is to claim collective guilt…”

    Wow. Why are white people so picked upon? Most be the darkies ganging up on us again. This burden does grow heavy with the years… Silenced like Helen Keller. Like we had a yen for ball-gags. It’s a goddamn shame. It’s almost as if every major officially recognized and protected information conduit in this global culture wasn’t owned and operated by white people. When I think victim, I think of a White American. There he is- standing on stolen land, driving a Nazi car, wearing slave cotton and slurping down plantation java… oppressed to the point his spine might snap.

    If it is taboo to talk about whiteness or Euro-descended racial identity then you have the same institutions to blame who suppressed the many “mud races”. It certainly isn’t BET’s vast influence or those pesky brown folks.

    “I agree that black people are stopped and arrested more often. I would also remind you that black people are responsible for crime more often than white people–exponentially so.”

    Clearly, black people commit more crimes. How do we know? We arrest them more often — exponentially so… Why do we arrest them more often? Because they commit more crimes. How do we know? Because we arrest them more…

  • Tuna Ghost

    Dirty Johnny beat me to it, but regarding these points:

    There are specific areas and specific institutions which prefer whites over all other races, but there is no all-protecting American/Western umbrella under which all whites can stand, and there are plenty of areas and institutions that reserve entitlement for non-whites–arguably out of proportion to demographics.

    These specific institutions that prefer whites to non-whites are the US government and the US military and the US corporate culture and the vast majority of the US media. Throw in property management and real estate as well. Combined, they are largely responsible for the culture in US. The US was literally built with the notion of whites being superior to other races. That fact hasn’t just magically disappeared, and neither have those institutions that were responsible for it nor the institutions kept afloat because of it.

    The fact that whites are practically the only race that does not clamor for special entitlement isn’t a result of an overwhelming “white entitlement” so much as the fact that whites are basically prohibited from even speaking of their own racial identity unless it is to claim collective guilt…

    White racial identity is proclaimed constantly on television, in movies, in almost every aspect of American culture. This is why the notion of entitlement is so hard to grasp–it’s everywhere, so it’s invisible to those benefitting from it.

    I would also remind you that black people are responsible for crime more often than white people–exponentially so.

    My counter-argument would run along the lines of: well, black people are arrested far more often for doing the same things whites do. I know anecdotal evidence is next to worthless in an online forum, but as a former substance abuser with more than a few run-ins with the law, I can speak on this from experience.

  • JoJoDancer

    To the Tuna Ghost’s claim that the US government, US military, and US corporate culture exclusively prefer whites to non-whites, I would say that to the extent that race is a factor, these monoliths gather a certain type of white person: creative but conformist, ambitious but subservient, permeable to ideals but materialistic enough to depend on the wealth that holds one to a specific course.

    I would point to Barack Obama, Colin Powell, and Jay-Z, respectively, as three examples of black people who are clearly a part of the three monoliths you mention. While they are exceptions rather than the rule, you would either have to propose a conspiracy in which they are simply token blacks put into place to appease the masses–thus negating their accomplishments–or else you have to admit that the doors of power are open to anyone of any color willing and able to toe the party line. This has not always been so, but it certainly seems to be the case today.

    It is not a race issue so much as a class issue. If white privilege exists, can I please get my voucher?

    We have digressed way off the original topic of black Batmen, but I am completely out of my element on the topic of comic book characters–thus my off-base references. I stirred this up with my white MLK remark, and I still say that if inverting the race of Nordic gods does not come off as disrespectful, you should be able to live with other such inversions. If skin tones are sacred, then all skin tones are sacred–even white.

    Personally, I can live with any racial inversion. In fact, I can live with anything not pushed into my face.

    On the subject of race, I realize that I tread on sensitive territory and will not launch into a more detailed thesis on the subject than what is presented here. As stimulating as this has been, I will end by saying this:

    No race is inherently guilty and none inherently innocent–no matter what the sins of one’s ancestors were or the sins that one has suffered. We are born to varying degrees of privilege and deprivation, and while it is certainly noble to want to change the world, it is far more realistic to change yourself.

    Left-wing propaganda would have you believe that as a white person you oppress the less fortunate by the very air that you breathe, that because people of another generation who looked like you perpetrated evil, you are now somehow responsible. Well then, are Mexicans then culpable for Aztec atrocities? Are blacks then tainted by the evils of the black West Africans who sold their ancestors into slavery?

    Nonsense. You are responsible for nothing more than yourself and your actions. And if there are complex karmic tendrils that tie each of us to the sins of our fathers (or someone else’s fathers-of-the-same-continent), then I don’t imagine that heavily funded government policies or indignant sign-waving will smooth out those wrinkles of injustice.

    I give everyone an equal chance. I give to the poor when the poor can’t help themselves. I pay my taxes. I even recycle and ride my bicycle, for God’s sake. I don’t owe anyone outside my family and friends anything.

    Does this make me a malevolent cog in the system?

    If I misread you, Tuna and Dirty, if you are not pointing an accusing finger at me, a lower-class born Southern boy who works his ass off to make ends meet, telling me that I am somehow part of a white elite power structure, in fact, claiming that I am responsible for their evil machinations by my very whiteness, then I apologize for my vehement defense. My bad, dog.

    Peace out.

  • JoJoDancer

    For neatness’ sake, I left your response below, after dirty johnny’s lengthy missive.

  • JoJoDancer

    Did you write this from a comfortable chair, in a climate-controlled environment, with a full belly, generally safe from physical assault? If so, who is the victim that you are now indebted to?

    And do you really believe that all races commit crimes in equal proportions, that the crime statistics are just the creation of unfair police profiling and a white supremacist justice system?

    I left my final response below, but I will certainly come back to read your response.

  • dirty johnny

    I strive for an honest and hard look at my own historical location. The luxuries my child and I enjoy are not neutral or innocent. They are, as most American luxuries are, dripping blood on our shag carpets. The desirable position is not one of purity and righteousness. Few of us are pure enough to afford righteousness. The desirable position, from my perspective, is one in which you have the patience, dilligence and willingness to investigate one’s own historical position and potential ethical/political power.

    Americans by definition have substantial political influence, yet the “powers that be” have effectively convinced this population that they are impotent. The poorest among us has significant wealth when viewed from an international perspective. Even our reprehensible overconsumption means that a politically-based shift in personal buying choices carries disproportionate weight. In my view the missing piece of conciousness is not “white guilt”, but rather a deepening awareness of our historical location combined with the immence potency of the average American.

    I’m not out to claim the position of superiority or innocence you accuse me of. I make daily decisions with an eye on the often hidden political meaning of said decision. I generally buy used and/or local. I try to minimize my energy consumption. I clearly don’t do enough as I’m the owner of a car. I’m also not the white guy singing “Why’s everybody always picking on me…”

    There are vast problems with the race dialogue in this country. Let’s keep in mind they are not all the fault of minorities. These dialogues are monopolized by the same white power structure that tosses black folks the “WB” as if it were a real sign of representation. You’ve got the whole, “well i got beat up by a Jewish kid in school” approach to race. Yeah, no shit, but it’s still a holocaust… Blacks, Mexicans and Asians aren’t the ones obstructing a real discussion of white identity, the primarily white elite are. My theory is that you can’t discuss whiteness because it will quickly fragment into specific Euro-identities and they need it to be the non-existant presumed American normality. If you say American, you implicitly mean a white middle class male, although even white middle class males with 2.5 kids don’t match the profile. It’s a fantasy, but it’s a fantasy that significant numbers of people identify with and feel protective of even though it does nothing for them.

    I don’t believe the races commit crimes in equal proportions. I never said I did. I am saying that you can’t even get close to an accurate look at this issue, though. There is so much systemic racism in the criminal justice system that these statistics are useless. The powdered cocaine vs. crack cocaine issue is an obvious example of a racially differentiated stance. It’s not a matter of “white supremacy” or a conspiracy against anybody. There is no conspiracy. It’s simply the self-reinforcing presence of a half-millenium of racism and oppression. It doesn’t take an investigative journalist to spot it. The black community has little accumulated wealth. The black community got CIA crack under it’s Christmas tree in the 80′s. The black community gets longer sentence for the same crimes. The black community gets pulled over more often, searched more often and sentenced more often. The criminal justice system is at war with the American poor, and more specifically, the brown poor. So, in this sense, yes, crime statistics ARE a product of profiling and a racially differentiated justice system. That should be no big surprise. But, it’s no conspiracy, it’s just the continuation of history. It is exactly the result of what has been.

    I’m gonna give your final response some consideration before I put my thoughts down. This has been an interesting discussion and I’m getting ready for a trip tomorrow. I don’t want to be too glib this time…

  • Tuna Ghost

    There is no conspiracy. It’s simply the self-reinforcing presence of a half-millenium of racism and oppression. It doesn’t take an investigative journalist to spot it. The black community has little accumulated wealth. The black community got CIA crack under it’s Christmas tree in the 80′s. The black community gets longer sentence for the same crimes. The black community gets pulled over more often, searched more often and sentenced more often. The criminal justice system is at war with the American poor, and more specifically, the brown poor. So, in this sense, yes, crime statistics ARE a product of profiling and a racially differentiated justice system.

    Very quickly, because someone keeps making all my points for me: yes, this.

  • JoJoDancer

    Well put. Perhaps we do not disagree on as many things as I would have imagined.

  • Addjian
  • Butter Knife

    White people who are treated poorly because of their habits or address can adopt new habits or move, either might be a challenge, but those are entirely changeable class markers.

    A black person who is treated poorly because of their skin color cannot change that. They could try developing new habits or moving, and many do, but there is substantial evidence suggesting that doing so only slightly improves the situation and they will still be treated poorly because of their skin color.

    Does that clear it up for you at all?

  • Butter Knife

    If the real measure is “how well does this person conform to the expectation”, with at least some acceptance of the fact that nobody will conform to absolutely (because doing so is frankly impossible), and one of the points of expected conformity is “look like everyone else’, then we can fairly easily surmise that being a minority might not disqualify an individual from gaining access to power, but it will be a clear obstacle to doing so.

    The difference must simply be made up elsewhere: GWB could be a recovered alcoholic and coke-head without ever really having to discuss either issue as president, BHO barely got away with admitting that he had smoked pot a couple of times, and is forced to routinely defend his (past?) tobacco smoking… if he even behaved in ways comparable to his own vice president, he likely couldn’t have a career in national politics; Hillary Clinton can be a woman with a troubled marital past and (somewhat laughable) rumors of homosexuality floating about for decades, Colin Powell, not so much; Eminem can get away with recording songs about murdering his ex-wife and ongoing long-term abuse of serious narcotics, Jay-Z is roundly criticized for using the word “bitch” and acknowledging the existence of drugs and drug users.

    Their achievements are no less valid, but they come with serious requirements of personal unimpeachabity that are substantially less rigorous for their white colleagues.

  • http://twitter.com/BasculeTheFule Sean Gibbins

    “Seriously, these people need a hobby. I recommend macrame.”

    Or alternatively chainsaw juggling. With nitroglycerin. And blindfolds.

  • that1guy

    “The reason the anti-racism laws don’t protect all races equally”

    Some do. Depends on the law. Hate crimes legislation has been effectively used to prosecute bias-motivated crimes against white people, which seems fair enough to me.

  • that1guy

    “a by-gone era of Jim Crow laws (nearly fifty years ago.)”
    50 years is not nearly as long as you’d like to think.
    You can still meet white people who were present at lynchings in the 50s or who rioted over desegregation. 7 years ago, we still had Strom Thurmond in the senate.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JLYGLJU2CDH65IM5MNBYOQ6OMU toddw

    oh jesus. Everybody needs to have their own superhero, lol. i have an idea, why dont the muslins figure out their own way to entertain themselves instead of riding the backs of the americans.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JLYGLJU2CDH65IM5MNBYOQ6OMU toddw

    oh jesus. Everybody needs to have their own superhero, lol. i have an idea, why dont the muslins figure out their own way to entertain themselves instead of riding the backs of the americans.

  • Brett

    “protect my rights to express such stories regardless of the skin tones” … you said it. they have a right to have a muslim algerian parkour hero, especially because that is obviously part of who is buying their comics

  • not as dumb

    Actually Todd’s on record as not believing in God, so he probably wouldn’t be as gullible as you are to be condemning an entire group of people as evil. U should drop the “saint” in your name.

  • bob

    Smoke and mirrors.  Distract the public with bullshit issues so they don’t have the time or strength to deal with the real issues.

  • bob

    Smoke and mirrors.  Distract the public with bullshit issues so they don’t have the time or strength to deal with the real issues.