Welfare Drug Testing Bills Introduced in Four States

Phillip Smith reports at Stop The Drug War:

Critics of welfare drug testing cite unconstitutionality of warrantless drug testing, the cost of drug testing tens or hundreds of thousands of people, counterproductive results and mean-spiritedness in opposing legislation that would require it. But that hasn’t stopped legislators from coming back again and again.

With this year’s state legislative season barely under way, bills have been introduced in four states — Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska, and Oregon — to require drug testing for people receiving public assistance. And in a novel twist, a bill in Indiana would require unemployment recipients to declare they are not using illegal drugs and threatens them with up to three years in prison for perjury if they are found to be using them.

But while such bills may be popular with politicians of a certain stripe, they don’t find much support among professionals in the field. Groups that have lined up against such bills include the American Public Health Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the National Association of Alcoholism and Drug Abuse Counselors…

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  • Dorianj26

    Unfortunate as this seems on the face of it, I say good. Maybe this is the type ofthing that will get americans to clue into the reality of how badly they get screwed by their elected leaders in the name of the almighty buck.

  • Dorianj26

    Unfortunate as this seems on the face of it, I say good. Maybe this is the type ofthing that will get americans to clue into the reality of how badly they get screwed by their elected leaders in the name of the almighty buck.

  • samthor

    great! Let’s start with corporate welfare!
    If Walmart wants it’s annual billion dollars plus the least the CEO’s & Walton family can do is pee in a cup.

  • Anonymous

    great! Let’s start with corporate welfare!
    If Walmart wants it’s annual billion dollars plus the least the CEO’s & Walton family can do is pee in a cup.

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  • dumbsaint

    Guess what a junkie turns to when they’re desperate for a hit and have no money coming in.

  • Anonymous

    Guess what a junkie turns to when they’re desperate for a hit and have no money coming in.

  • Haystack

    It’s important that we keep drug users feeling depressed and socially marginal.

  • Haystack

    It’s important that we keep drug users feeling depressed and socially marginal.

  • Hadrian999

    I bet the labs set to do the tests love this idea

  • Hadrian999

    I bet the labs set to do the tests love this idea

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

    I think this bill is a great idea. I’ve never heard of anyone getting more than $1,000 a month in welfare money in my state and that’s on the higher end of the estimates I’ve gotten. If you’re taking in that little income, you can’t afford drugs anyway. They’re a luxury and luxuries are for people who can afford them.

    • Haystack

      So instead of giving them help, let them become homeless and desperate, and then wonder why you live in a crime-infested rat hole. Social problems aren’t solved by being sanctimonious.

      • RoscoeMG

        Oh sir, this crack you’ve supplied me with is trully decadent

        • RoscoeMG

          Sorry, that was for Ms Hurst. I shouldn’t post when stoned.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

        I’m not saying “don’t give them any help.” What I’m saying is, don’t write them a welfare check monthly which they can use for whatever they want. They should still be able to qualify for food stamps, for medical assistance, for housing assistance…but not a straightforward cash infusion.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

        YES!!  Maybe then they’ll open their eyes and see that LIFE SUCKS!!  LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT, NOT WHAT’S GIVEN TO YOU!!

    • Yodawgiherdulykpretzels

      You think money is the only way to get drugs?

      Additionally, if we’re going to start taking money away from people who spend it on things that are bad for them or society, why not do a BMI on all welfare recipients to see if they’re too fat? Tell them to shape up or loose their money because we don’t want our tax dollars going to their bypass surgery in 10-20 years. Shit, I don’t want some lard-ass eating fried bacon, Cheetos and mayonaisse sandwhiches on MY dollar. Those sorts of foods are bad for you and if you’re eating them, you don’t deserve government money.

      “They’re a luxury and luxuries are for people who can afford them. ”
      Also, this last statement wreaks of classism.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

        “This last statement wreaks of classism.”

        *rolls eyes* Oh goodness, it’s terrible of me to suggest that people shouldn’t buy non-essential items that they can’t afford. They should be encouraged to neglect necessities and/or go into debt to purchase their luxury items, right?

        The system is broken, yes, but some financial responsibility goes a long way.

      • Bonas1380

        Bypass surgery should be excluded from medicaid.

        This comment, IMO, is more reflective of those who live on public assistance had the latest HDTV with premium cable package buy cry they don’t receive enough.
        “They’re a luxury and luxuries are for people who can afford them. ”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

    I think this bill is a great idea. I’ve never heard of anyone getting more than $1,000 a month in welfare money in my state and that’s on the higher end of the estimates I’ve gotten. If you’re taking in that little income, you can’t afford drugs anyway. They’re a luxury and luxuries are for people who can afford them.

  • Haystack

    So instead of giving them help, let them become homeless and desperate, and then wonder why you live in a crime-infested rat hole. Social problems aren’t solved by being sanctimonious.

  • Melody

    Mandatory drug testing for all police officers and elected officials etc.Oh,and employees at DHHR and EDD.

  • Melody

    Mandatory drug testing for all police officers and elected officials etc.Oh,and employees at DHHR and EDD.

  • RoscoeMG

    Oh sir, this crack you’ve supplied me with is trully decadent

  • Godozo

    Define Drug….

    Watch as they tweak the rules so that Nicotine, Caffeine and Alcohol become drugs that trip the “No Soup For You” line. (Alcohol already has a precedent with SS Disability). And you have to attend humiliating classes if you want your few bucks back.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

      Caffeine being included in many kinds of food, I think it would be a little difficult to test for. But nicotine and alcohol ARE drugs, so why not test for them? And why are classes so humiliating? Do you think educating yourself is a shameful thing to do?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

      Are you that stupid, or do you work at it??  Alcohol IS a drug — you DOLT!!  Caffeine and Nicotine are drugs too!!  If you can afford to smoke and drink alcohol, you don’t need assistance!!

  • Godozo

    Define Drug….

    Watch as they tweak the rules so that Nicotine, Caffeine and Alcohol become drugs that trip the “No Soup For You” line. (Alcohol already has a precedent with SS Disability). And you have to attend humiliating classes if you want your few bucks back.

  • RoscoeMG

    Sorry, that was for Ms Hurst. I shouldn’t post when stoned.

  • jh

    I live in Rural SW Va and many families and individuals on welfare smoke their check away on crack or meth the first of the month. It is pathetic to watch money go to the drug dealers that is suppose to feed and support families. This bill is great.

  • jh

    I live in Rural SW Va and many families and individuals on welfare smoke their check away on crack or meth the first of the month. It is pathetic to watch money go to the drug dealers that is suppose to feed and support families. This bill is great.

  • Yodawgiherdulykpretzels

    You think money is the only way to get drugs?

    Additionally, if we’re going to start taking money away from people who spend it on things that are bad for them or society, why not do a BMI on all welfare recipients to see if they’re too fat? Tell them to shape up or loose their money because we don’t want our tax dollars going to their bypass surgery in 10-20 years. Shit, I don’t want some lard-ass eating fried bacon, Cheetos and mayonaisse sandwhiches on MY dollar. Those sorts of foods are bad for you and if you’re eating them, you don’t deserve government money.

    “They’re a luxury and luxuries are for people who can afford them. ”
    Also, this last statement wreaks of classism.

  • Paulapitts1963

    My personal opinion on this is: Many many people of ‘welfare’ do abuse the system. I have seen this first hand. And many persons in the DSS office make quite a difference in how they treat the needy that come into their office, this goes for Gov’t housing(HUD), GLEAMS, etc in SC. **If you are a white person in Greenwood SC don’t expect to get treated respectfully by most (not all) black social workers.** I know of one instance when I couldn’t get help after my wallet had been stolen with my bill paying money it it, but my black neighbor who had used her bill money to go to the beach the week before got her electric bill paid by a gov’t assistance program. The whole social welfare system needs to be overhauled and restructured to keep those who are abusing the system to get aid off the teat. I have struggled as a single mother to pay my bills while watching those around me in this gov’t housing community completely abuse the system, maneuvering around the rules with the competence of a ninja. It’s very angering to see myself struggling adhering to the rules and watching so many around me whom I know are making money under the table, having persons on their lease who aren’t accounted for and are bringing income into the household get all the assistance. After having seen all this I can’t say I’m against drug testing for those who are receiving public assistance… However we see int he news all the time how gov’t employees of one type or another busted for drugs or being caught in some scam and it comes out how they have abused drugs or the system to get paid when they were doing other things than working while on the tax payer clock. So, if persons on gov’t assistance have to get drug tested so should all gov’t employees,… All politicians, government employees of any type – police officers, firefighters, etc., anyone getting business or research grants, etc should also be tested, ie… anyone who is receiving tax dollars for either their paycheck, their business, government subsidies for their business (ranchers, farmers, etc), students receiving grants or government scholarships, just ANY person who’s income relies on tax dollars should have to be tested as well. The majority of gov’t employees milk the system while not doing their jobs; just need welfare assistance or go to most any gov’t office and you will see the incompetence of these employees as well as their disdain for having to help you by doing their ‘job’. So to the drug testing for welfare recipients bill I say this, lets be fair and test anyone receiving tax dollars period. And while we are at it we need to define drugs – nicotine and alcohol should be on the list of drugs too, if you can’t afford food you can’t afford booze and cigs either. The only exception to the use of these last 2 drugs should be those employed and working for the money they get…

  • Paulapitts1963

    My personal opinion on this is: Many many people of ‘welfare’ do abuse the system. I have seen this first hand. And many persons in the DSS office make quite a difference in how they treat the needy that come into their office, this goes for Gov’t housing(HUD), GLEAMS, etc in SC. **If you are a white person in Greenwood SC don’t expect to get treated respectfully by most (not all) black social workers.** I know of one instance when I couldn’t get help after my wallet had been stolen with my bill paying money it it, but my black neighbor who had used her bill money to go to the beach the week before got her electric bill paid by a gov’t assistance program. The whole social welfare system needs to be overhauled and restructured to keep those who are abusing the system to get aid off the teat. I have struggled as a single mother to pay my bills while watching those around me in this gov’t housing community completely abuse the system, maneuvering around the rules with the competence of a ninja. It’s very angering to see myself struggling adhering to the rules and watching so many around me whom I know are making money under the table, having persons on their lease who aren’t accounted for and are bringing income into the household get all the assistance. After having seen all this I can’t say I’m against drug testing for those who are receiving public assistance… However we see int he news all the time how gov’t employees of one type or another busted for drugs or being caught in some scam and it comes out how they have abused drugs or the system to get paid when they were doing other things than working while on the tax payer clock. So, if persons on gov’t assistance have to get drug tested so should all gov’t employees,… All politicians, government employees of any type – police officers, firefighters, etc., anyone getting business or research grants, etc should also be tested, ie… anyone who is receiving tax dollars for either their paycheck, their business, government subsidies for their business (ranchers, farmers, etc), students receiving grants or government scholarships, just ANY person who’s income relies on tax dollars should have to be tested as well. The majority of gov’t employees milk the system while not doing their jobs; just need welfare assistance or go to most any gov’t office and you will see the incompetence of these employees as well as their disdain for having to help you by doing their ‘job’. So to the drug testing for welfare recipients bill I say this, lets be fair and test anyone receiving tax dollars period. And while we are at it we need to define drugs – nicotine and alcohol should be on the list of drugs too, if you can’t afford food you can’t afford booze and cigs either. The only exception to the use of these last 2 drugs should be those employed and working for the money they get…

  • Crazyonealboss

    I feel if you are getting the assistance the best you can do is be able to pass a piss test….let the people who are really gonna use the system for what is there for, other than the next hit of the month…I think it should be nationwide!

  • Crazyonealboss

    I feel if you are getting the assistance the best you can do is be able to pass a piss test….let the people who are really gonna use the system for what is there for, other than the next hit of the month…I think it should be nationwide!

  • veteran

    oh cry me a fucking river. im unemployed and homeless and i dont qualify for welfare, food stamps or unemployment. they said leaving active military service was ” quitting my job “. im staying with a friend and doing maintenance on a farm for room and board, but i digress. why not put these tax leeches on drug test programs? if they are sponging tax dollars why not cover some basics? make sure they aren’t just riding the system///

  • veteran

    oh cry me a fucking river. im unemployed and homeless and i dont qualify for welfare, food stamps or unemployment. they said leaving active military service was ” quitting my job “. im staying with a friend and doing maintenance on a farm for room and board, but i digress. why not put these tax leeches on drug test programs? if they are sponging tax dollars why not cover some basics? make sure they aren’t just riding the system///

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Just another in the long line of excuses, devices, reasons etc…of how to weasel out of providing any services for anybody…ever. The end goal is always the same…by any means necessary shift govt money away from people programs that actually make a difference and back toward corporate programs…where they make no difference for anyone bu a few CEOs. There are other ways to deal with people who abuse the system…note that these have barely been tried…and even when they’ve been authorized they’ve been barely funded and understaffed…so when they fail (not if…underfunded and understaffed concepts ALWAYS fail) the usual suspects just point their fingers and say “See…I told you it wouldn’t work.”

    Its the equivalent of announcing that a runner can’t win a marathon…then cutting off their legs to make sure they don’t win…THEN laughing out loud when they fail.

    I’d like to see the opposite of these bills…I’d like to see an expansion that would put aid back in the hands of people who have already been shuffled out of the system…because a lot of hard working people can’t get any assistance at all…for a variety of reasons…but mostly for the one above (the rules have been carefully drawn to make sure that only the smallest number of completely destitute people can actually get a little aid. the rest of us are on our own.) It doesn’t have to stay that way…unless people keep buying into the lies from the people that broke the system in the first place.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Just another in the long line of excuses, devices, reasons etc…of how to weasel out of providing any services for anybody…ever. The end goal is always the same…by any means necessary shift govt money away from people programs that actually make a difference and back toward corporate programs…where they make no difference for anyone bu a few CEOs. There are other ways to deal with people who abuse the system…note that these have barely been tried…and even when they’ve been authorized they’ve been barely funded and understaffed…so when they fail (not if…underfunded and understaffed concepts ALWAYS fail) the usual suspects just point their fingers and say “See…I told you it wouldn’t work.”

    Its the equivalent of announcing that a runner can’t win a marathon…then cutting off their legs to make sure they don’t win…THEN laughing out loud when they fail.

    I’d like to see the opposite of these bills…I’d like to see an expansion that would put aid back in the hands of people who have already been shuffled out of the system…because a lot of hard working people can’t get any assistance at all…for a variety of reasons…but mostly for the one above (the rules have been carefully drawn to make sure that only the smallest number of completely destitute people can actually get a little aid. the rest of us are on our own.) It doesn’t have to stay that way…unless people keep buying into the lies from the people that broke the system in the first place.

  • EAGD

    Good luck. Most government “welfare” programs – from welfare itself to unemployment insurance – seem to be efforts by the Federal Government to placate the unfortunates in our society to the point where they are not a threat to the government. After all, hungry people are easily radicalized/politicised. This strategy of providing minimum sustenance goes back to F.D.R.’s policies, put in place at a time when he was fighting off both the far left organizers and the far right big business folks at the same time. Perhaps the Conservative Republicans strategy will be to simply imprison the poor instead.

  • EAGD

    Good luck. Most government “welfare” programs – from welfare itself to unemployment insurance – seem to be efforts by the Federal Government to placate the unfortunates in our society to the point where they are not a threat to the government. After all, hungry people are easily radicalized/politicised. This strategy of providing minimum sustenance goes back to F.D.R.’s policies, put in place at a time when he was fighting off both the far left organizers and the far right big business folks at the same time. Perhaps the Conservative Republicans strategy will be to simply imprison the poor instead.

  • Hailtothetheif

    If where going down this road then everyone on a federally funded payroll should be tested, that means military brass, politicians, anyone in the the employment of the public services sector and so on and so forth. If people are that precious about their tax payer dollars being used and abused, surely it should hold true for all people gaining government assistance. Yes that means those of you on food stamps, those getting government approved tax breaks and so on and so forth, and those who have been given tax payer funded bail out money. Or is it perfectly ok to be coked up and drugged out so long as your income is above a certain wage threshold ?
    Enquiring minds would like to know.
    Now I don’t drink, smoke or take drugs, but how much is a program of this nature going to cost to implement ?
    Who will be paying for the drug testing.
    What services will be offered to help these people who offend clean up their act some and so on and so forth.
    Quite frankly it’s all a bit of a tenuous and slippery slope if you look at the bigger picture.
    Populist governance at it’s best but where and when do we draw the line at behaviour that is damaging to ones health. Poor exercise, obesity, inadequate diet, alcohol, tobacco and so on and so forth.
    Enquiring minds would like to know.
    If this sort of legislation goes ahead I’ll be interested to see the correlating crime statistics in years to come.
    Not a pretty picture anyway you cut it.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

      The Military already has a “Zero Tolerance” policy in play…they’ve had it for more than 20 years now — why not doing a little research before opening your mouth!!

    • bm

      FYI the military does test.

  • Hailtothetheif

    If where going down this road then everyone on a federally funded payroll should be tested, that means military brass, politicians, anyone in the the employment of the public services sector and so on and so forth. If people are that precious about their tax payer dollars being used and abused, surely it should hold true for all people gaining government assistance. Yes that means those of you on food stamps, those getting government approved tax breaks and so on and so forth, and those who have been given tax payer funded bail out money. Or is it perfectly ok to be coked up and drugged out so long as your income is above a certain wage threshold ?
    Enquiring minds would like to know.
    Now I don’t drink, smoke or take drugs, but how much is a program of this nature going to cost to implement ?
    Who will be paying for the drug testing.
    What services will be offered to help these people who offend clean up their act some and so on and so forth.
    Quite frankly it’s all a bit of a tenuous and slippery slope if you look at the bigger picture.
    Populist governance at it’s best but where and when do we draw the line at behaviour that is damaging to ones health. Poor exercise, obesity, inadequate diet, alcohol, tobacco and so on and so forth.
    Enquiring minds would like to know.
    If this sort of legislation goes ahead I’ll be interested to see the correlating crime statistics in years to come.
    Not a pretty picture anyway you cut it.

  • eva

    Hooray for USA, the land of the free! It’s good that someone finally understands the importance of pushing down those who already are at the bottom of society :D

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

      Cry me a f**king river — you liberal POS!!  those on welfare doing drugs don’t deserve the help!!  chances are they’re selling drugs anyway, and don’t need the money!!

  • eva

    Hooray for USA, the land of the free! It’s good that someone finally understands the importance of pushing down those who already are at the bottom of society :D

  • 5by5

    LOL. Yeah, because what you really want to do with someone already struggling with an addiction to drugs, is also strip them of any public assistance that might get them back on their feet. Oh yeah, that’s smart.

    I wonder how many of the politicians that support this type of law (especially the ones that proscribe a 3 year sentence for even lying about doing drugs) have stock in or other financial connections via campaign donations and the like from the commercial prison industry. Gotta get ‘em new customers! This is about getting butts in the cellblock! And since we don’t have debtor’s prisons anymore, this is the next best thing, right?

    Pfft.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

      No, they’re not stripping them of anything!!  They’re denying them an avenue that they are choosing to ignore!!  F**K those that cry wolf!!

  • 5by5

    LOL. Yeah, because what you really want to do with someone already struggling with an addiction to drugs, is also strip them of any public assistance that might get them back on their feet. Oh yeah, that’s smart.

    I wonder how many of the politicians that support this type of law (especially the ones that proscribe a 3 year sentence for even lying about doing drugs) have stock in or other financial connections via campaign donations and the like from the commercial prison industry. Gotta get ‘em new customers! This is about getting butts in the cellblock! And since we don’t have debtor’s prisons anymore, this is the next best thing, right?

    Pfft.

  • justagirl

    they should do away with cash assistance all together. no drug tests needed if you receive a voucher for the necessities.

  • justagirl

    they should do away with cash assistance all together. no drug tests needed if you receive a voucher for the necessities.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

    I’m not saying “don’t give them any help.” What I’m saying is, don’t write them a welfare check monthly which they can use for whatever they want. They should still be able to qualify for food stamps, for medical assistance, for housing assistance…but not a straightforward cash infusion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

    “This last statement wreaks of classism.”

    *rolls eyes* Oh goodness, it’s terrible of me to suggest that people shouldn’t buy non-essential items that they can’t afford. They should be encouraged to neglect necessities and/or go into debt to purchase their luxury items, right?

    The system is broken, yes, but some financial responsibility goes a long way.

  • Paddym_13

    Ha the comments on here are hilarious. the evil gubment intruding in these peoples lives by drug testing them: the same fucking gubment that hands them a check every month for doing nothing.

  • Paddym_13

    Ha the comments on here are hilarious. the evil gubment intruding in these peoples lives by drug testing them: the same fucking gubment that hands them a check every month for doing nothing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C5SV3Y6GG7GRK3NBX64IXAXDGM Jessica Hurst

    Caffeine being included in many kinds of food, I think it would be a little difficult to test for. But nicotine and alcohol ARE drugs, so why not test for them? And why are classes so humiliating? Do you think educating yourself is a shameful thing to do?

  • WhiteRose

    Does anybody ask why the people are on welfare? Why they do drugs? So don’t give them any money then they will become criminals and when you ask yourself when some “random” act of crime occured it’s because of this line of idiotic thinking….. Of all the ass*oles in my life to hurt me the only one that said sorry was the crackhead that stole my purse, mind you I ran after her and got it back. I don’t see the big bankers or politicians saying sorry.

  • WhiteRose

    Does anybody ask why the people are on welfare? Why they do drugs? So don’t give them any money then they will become criminals and when you ask yourself when some “random” act of crime occured it’s because of this line of idiotic thinking….. Of all the ass*oles in my life to hurt me the only one that said sorry was the crackhead that stole my purse, mind you I ran after her and got it back. I don’t see the big bankers or politicians saying sorry.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

      Yeah, blame the politicians for creating crime!!  That’s the answer!!  Don’t blame the person who COMMITS the crime, no that’s too easy!!  They’re just a victim of society, look at how they grew up!!  I’m tired of these welfarites crying that they have life so bad — BOO F**KING HOO!!  Try working all your life, and then having the rug jerked out from underneath you…THEN finding job after job to pay for the bills….THEN you can cry to me that you have it rough.  Until then, GET OFF YOUR FAT LAZY A** AND AT LEAST TRY TO FIND WORK!!

  • Bonas1380

    Bypass surgery should be excluded from medicaid.

    This comment, IMO, is more reflective of those who live on public assistance had the latest HDTV with premium cable package buy cry they don’t receive enough.
    “They’re a luxury and luxuries are for people who can afford them. ”

  • Edmjohnson1946

    This is hogwash. Just about everybody I know is getting some kind of help. There are so few jobs out there.
    Somehow I believe that if somebody is kicked off welfare because of drugs some child is going to go hungry.
    Right now 1 out of 5 children in this country go to bed hungry as it is. Let the lawmakers take drug tests.
    But, remember, we’re supposed to be the lawmakers – Duh, I guess we forget.

  • Edmjohnson1946

    This is hogwash. Just about everybody I know is getting some kind of help. There are so few jobs out there.
    Somehow I believe that if somebody is kicked off welfare because of drugs some child is going to go hungry.
    Right now 1 out of 5 children in this country go to bed hungry as it is. Let the lawmakers take drug tests.
    But, remember, we’re supposed to be the lawmakers – Duh, I guess we forget.

  • Wllmgeyer

    FUCK YOU, YOU ASSHOLE!!!

  • Spindoctor

    I think that would be fine. I think if this law is passed it should apply to anyone getting any kind of government’s funds or assistance not just food stamps do not just target the poor but everyone. I went to school for my profession. I had to go thru a background check, be finger printed and take a drug test to get my job. To pay taxes that are used to support my family, my country and programs like public assistance, and all other state, federal and local programs. I do believe in helping the needy and the kids and helping people help themselves. If someone is mad or upset with this. My question is why you are mad. Aren’t drugs illegal? Which means you are using tax dollars to break the law. That’s very ironic!! You said you need help feeding your family, housing and some money for your family, not your weed habit or want ever is your drug of choose. Why should the people who supports the system go to work pay their bills and your bills and support your drug habit. These special interest groups and lobbyist who claims invasion of privacy, and other rights and amendments that allow Americans the right of choice are misleading people. I have a right to be reasonably sure that the people we are helping are using this money correctly and not enabling someone to abuse the system and themselves so that they never improve their situation and stay on maybe so type of assistance. And if you do not like get a job if you can pass a drug test!!!. I hope every state follows suit with this law makes good sense to those who pay the bills of others. For those who don’t like it I could care less. Maybe if some of them could got clean. They could wake up in time to go to an interview, get a job, attend a college get a education in something that really matters and pass a drug test and off assistance and now you have the right to choose what you want to do. Until then you have others making those chooses for you and as long as you are on my dime you choice does not matter. You gave that way with the choices you made. Life is tuff and we all have problems. But fixing or correcting some of what’s wrong is better than a lot of people pleasing rhetoric. If someone needs to be appeased or patronized it is the working men and women who shoulder the burden and the responsibilities of their families and others who show their appreciation by taking the money buying drugs and not taking full advantage of a good thing in a very bad time in their lives. Not all unemployed or disadvantaged people will use the money for drugs. I believe only small percentage will have a problem being tested. And mental health care groups and other groups who oppose this, I see their side. Keep these people on drugs they will never find jobs but we can care for them also with your taxes dollars. They will always have a job. You must think DAMM FOOL IS STAMPED ON MY FOREHEAD.

  • Spindoctor

    I think that would be fine. I think if this law is passed it should apply to anyone getting any kind of government’s funds or assistance not just food stamps do not just target the poor but everyone. I went to school for my profession. I had to go thru a background check, be finger printed and take a drug test to get my job. To pay taxes that are used to support my family, my country and programs like public assistance, and all other state, federal and local programs. I do believe in helping the needy and the kids and helping people help themselves. If someone is mad or upset with this. My question is why you are mad. Aren’t drugs illegal? Which means you are using tax dollars to break the law. That’s very ironic!! You said you need help feeding your family, housing and some money for your family, not your weed habit or want ever is your drug of choose. Why should the people who supports the system go to work pay their bills and your bills and support your drug habit. These special interest groups and lobbyist who claims invasion of privacy, and other rights and amendments that allow Americans the right of choice are misleading people. I have a right to be reasonably sure that the people we are helping are using this money correctly and not enabling someone to abuse the system and themselves so that they never improve their situation and stay on maybe so type of assistance. And if you do not like get a job if you can pass a drug test!!!. I hope every state follows suit with this law makes good sense to those who pay the bills of others. For those who don’t like it I could care less. Maybe if some of them could got clean. They could wake up in time to go to an interview, get a job, attend a college get a education in something that really matters and pass a drug test and off assistance and now you have the right to choose what you want to do. Until then you have others making those chooses for you and as long as you are on my dime you choice does not matter. You gave that way with the choices you made. Life is tuff and we all have problems. But fixing or correcting some of what’s wrong is better than a lot of people pleasing rhetoric. If someone needs to be appeased or patronized it is the working men and women who shoulder the burden and the responsibilities of their families and others who show their appreciation by taking the money buying drugs and not taking full advantage of a good thing in a very bad time in their lives. Not all unemployed or disadvantaged people will use the money for drugs. I believe only small percentage will have a problem being tested. And mental health care groups and other groups who oppose this, I see their side. Keep these people on drugs they will never find jobs but we can care for them also with your taxes dollars. They will always have a job. You must think DAMM FOOL IS STAMPED ON MY FOREHEAD.

  • Morey_mandy

    i think theyre trying to manage 1 problem then opening another. only the kids will suffer!!! lets see how many foster homes they can come up with!

  • Morey_mandy

    i think theyre trying to manage 1 problem then opening another. only the kids will suffer!!! lets see how many foster homes they can come up with!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

      there are plenty of couples willing to adopt foster children…in case you haven’t actually done any research of your own!!

  • thrivesurfer

    I think it’s hilarious how many people are against this. Enjoy your medical marijuana and crack babies I suppose.

  • thrivesurfer

    I think it’s hilarious how many people are against this. Enjoy your medical marijuana and crack babies I suppose.

  • thrivesurfer

    I think it’s hilarious how many people are against this. Enjoy your medical marijuana and crack babies I suppose.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

    The Military already has a “Zero Tolerance” policy in play…they’ve had it for more than 20 years now — why not doing a little research before opening your mouth!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

    Yeah, blame the politicians for creating crime!!  That’s the answer!!  Don’t blame the person who COMMITS the crime, no that’s too easy!!  They’re just a victim of society, look at how they grew up!!  I’m tired of these welfarites crying that they have life so bad — BOO F**KING HOO!!  Try working all your life, and then having the rug jerked out from underneath you…THEN finding job after job to pay for the bills….THEN you can cry to me that you have it rough.  Until then, GET OFF YOUR FAT LAZY A** AND AT LEAST TRY TO FIND WORK!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

    No, they’re not stripping them of anything!!  They’re denying them an avenue that they are choosing to ignore!!  F**K those that cry wolf!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

    YES!!  Maybe then they’ll open their eyes and see that LIFE SUCKS!!  LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT, NOT WHAT’S GIVEN TO YOU!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

    Cry me a f**king river — you liberal POS!!  those on welfare doing drugs don’t deserve the help!!  chances are they’re selling drugs anyway, and don’t need the money!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

    Are you that stupid, or do you work at it??  Alcohol IS a drug — you DOLT!!  Caffeine and Nicotine are drugs too!!  If you can afford to smoke and drink alcohol, you don’t need assistance!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A22JR6ZLJOGKFICKRLFI7GQ4MM mikey

    there are plenty of couples willing to adopt foster children…in case you haven’t actually done any research of your own!!

  • bm

    I don’t see a problem. The military is tested (when I was in at some points it was 2-4 times a year) My civilian job tested me. Anyone who works in public safety, drive for a living, healthcare etc. should be tested. If you are getting a taxpayer check you should be tested. If you don’t like it don’t accept the money.

  • bm

    I don’t see a problem. The military is tested (when I was in at some points it was 2-4 times a year) My civilian job tested me. Anyone who works in public safety, drive for a living, healthcare etc. should be tested. If you are getting a taxpayer check you should be tested. If you don’t like it don’t accept the money.

  • bm

    FYI the military does test.

  • http://www.juicyazzmarie.info JuicyAzzMarie

    Lets see drug tests on all these government employee’s!! ITS NOT BAD ENOUGH THEY STEAL OUR MONEY FROM OUR CHECKS AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET OUR BENEFITS LATER FOR YEARS UPON YEARS BUT THEY CAN ACCUSE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP OF BEING DRUG ADDICTS! BULLSPIT LIKE I SAID LETS GET ALL THE GOVERNMENT TESTED AND SEE HOW MANY PASS WITH RANDOM DRUG TESTS.  

  • http://www.juicyazzmarie.info JuicyAzzMarie

    Lets see drug tests on all these government employee’s!! ITS NOT BAD ENOUGH THEY STEAL OUR MONEY FROM OUR CHECKS AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET OUR BENEFITS LATER FOR YEARS UPON YEARS BUT THEY CAN ACCUSE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP OF BEING DRUG ADDICTS! BULLSPIT LIKE I SAID LETS GET ALL THE GOVERNMENT TESTED AND SEE HOW MANY PASS WITH RANDOM DRUG TESTS.  

  • http://www.juicyazzmarie.info JuicyAzzMarie

    this just needs to be done away with its more pointless cost that government cant afford! I mean seriously if someone is suspected of drug use then call CPS cuz most who receive do have kids! then have them tested hell I was tested because they thought my husband looked high at hospital when having my son (him being up for hours upon hours) and CPS was called on me for no reason because a nurse had an opinion! because my husband has allergies and he naturally has eyes that look kinda high!  he was my husband so I must have been doing the alleged drugs as well! its just bullshit!  tests negatory its just an abuse of power! 

  • http://www.juicyazzmarie.info JuicyAzzMarie

    this just needs to be done away with its more pointless cost that government cant afford! I mean seriously if someone is suspected of drug use then call CPS cuz most who receive do have kids!

  • Nathanielwht

    `Yea, they want to expand welfare to drug testing companies. Drug test are easy to get around, this would just be a huge waste of tax money while accomplishing nothing.

  • Nathanielwht

    `Yea, they want to expand welfare to drug testing companies. Drug test are easy to get around, this would just be a huge waste of tax money while accomplishing nothing.

  • Nathanielwht

    `Yea, they want to expand welfare to drug testing companies. Drug test are easy to get around, this would just be a huge waste of tax money while accomplishing nothing.