Justin Bieber Speaks On American Health Care

rolling stone bieberI believe this requires discussion not because the young celebrity is publicly discussing politics, but the implications it would have on the impressionable youth of the nation and the movement towards national health care. Excerpt taken from Rolling Stone:

The Canadian-born Bieber never plans on becoming an American citizen. “You guys are evil,” he jokes. “Canada’s the best country in the world.” He adds, “We go to the doctor and we don’t need to worry about paying him, but here, your whole life, you’re broke because of medical bills. My bodyguard’s baby was premature, and now he has to pay for it. In Canada, if your baby’s premature, he stays in the hospital as long as he needs to, and then you go home.

For the rare disinfo reader who is a Bieber fan, here’s some video from the RS shoot:

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  • Ironaddict06

    Mr. Bieber, where do you think that money comes from? Instead of you complaing about your bodygurad’s premature baby, why don’t you pick up the tab? I’m sure you got paid enough for that horrible Super Bowl commerical with Ozzy. Mr. Bieber enjoy your few minutes of fame, because in 5 years you will be forgotten in the pages of history. Another Tool will take you place.

    • Simiantongue

      “Mr. Bieber, where do you think that money comes from?”

      People pay for it. Why do you ask? Are you saying people don’t have to pay for private health insurance in the US? What is the point of your question? That perhaps Beiber is under the impression that healthcare is totally free. I’d say his statement reflects a belief that it is free at the point of being provided. Not that it is without any cost.

      “Instead of you complaing about your bodygurad’s premature baby, ”

      Was he complaining about the baby? That seems to be a mischaracterization of what was actually said. Do you think it gives any sort of credibility to any argument you may have against what he says by obviously misrepresenting his view? As a spectator between the argument between Mr Bieber and yourself, I’d say that was a strike against what you are arguing for. A sure sign of weakness on your part.

      Damn you for making me take the side of Justin Bieber too.

      • Malatesting123

        I agree with your statement. I also feel curiously ill after finding JB’s statement reasonable and agreeable. I think I will get drunk and forget this whole incident.

  • Ironaddict06

    Mr. Bieber, where do you think that money comes from? Instead of you complaing about your bodygurad’s premature baby, why don’t you pick up the tab? I’m sure you got paid enough for that horrible Super Bowl commerical with Ozzy. Mr. Bieber enjoy your few minutes of fame, because in 5 years you will be forgotten in the pages of history. Another Tool will take you place.

  • Simiantongue

    “Mr. Bieber, where do you think that money comes from?”

    People pay for it. Why do you ask? Are you saying people don’t have to pay for private health insurance in the US? What is the point of your question? That perhaps Beiber is under the impression that healthcare is totally free. I’d say his statement reflects a belief that it is free at the point of being provided. Not that it is without any cost.

    “Instead of you complaing about your bodygurad’s premature baby, ”

    Was he complaining about the baby? That seems to be a mischaracterization of what was actually said. Do you think it gives any sort of credibility to any argument you may have against what he says by obviously misrepresenting his view? As a spectator between the argument between Mr Bieber and yourself, I’d say that was a strike against what you are arguing for. A sure sign of weakness on your part.

    Damn you for making me take the side of Justin Bieber too.

  • Simiantongue

    “Mr. Bieber, where do you think that money comes from?”

    People pay for it. Why do you ask? Are you saying people don’t have to pay for private health insurance in the US? What is the point of your question? That perhaps Beiber is under the impression that healthcare is totally free. I’d say his statement reflects a belief that it is free at the point of being provided. Not that it is without any cost.

    “Instead of you complaing about your bodygurad’s premature baby, ”

    Was he complaining about the baby? That seems to be a mischaracterization of what was actually said. Do you think it gives any sort of credibility to any argument you may have against what he says by obviously misrepresenting his view? As a spectator between the argument between Mr Bieber and yourself, I’d say that was a strike against what you are arguing for. A sure sign of weakness on your part.

    Damn you for making me take the side of Justin Bieber too.

  • Waxindignant

    Damn right Beeeby – although I think you’re a lego-haired waste of skin, well done for bringing up the ludicrous rip-off that is the American medical system. The whole thing is a scam; healthcare is a right for every citizen, and should not be subject to profits or market forces. But then you yanks love profit don’t you? You made your (hospital) bed, you lie in it… sickos

  • Waxindignant

    Damn right Beeeby – although I think you’re a lego-haired waste of skin, well done for bringing up the ludicrous rip-off that is the American medical system. The whole thing is a scam; healthcare is a right for every citizen, and should not be subject to profits or market forces. But then you yanks love profit don’t you? You made your (hospital) bed, you lie in it… sickos

    • quartz99

      You’d think people would be able to look at studies like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_health_care_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States and see what a problem we have in the US. We spend almost twice as much, 40% of our population has no or nearly no access to health care of any kind (I imagine that number has actually gone up since 2007 with the recession) while in Canada it’s less than 10% with regular access but everyone is covered. Their system costs less AND covers more people. AND there’s a greater average life expectancy with lower infant mortality. This is really not rocket science.

  • Honu

    I can’t stand pretty boy/candy girl bubble gum pop acts. The corporate hand in these bar lowering “musical artists” is so obvious it’s near impossible for me to like them even if they did have a good song or two. Shit music like this gets crammed down everyone’s throats without considering the merits of the music on it’s own terms while struggling talented song writers and bands continue on without public notice. For that reason I can’t even consider Justin Bieber. He’s just kind of there for me…a constant blip on my radar where I hear the ping but ignore completely. And I don’t want to consider him. So stop saying things I agree with. I already have Justin Timberlake who I reluctantly like, I don’t need another exception to the rule.

  • Honu

    I can’t stand pretty boy/candy girl bubble gum pop acts. The corporate hand in these bar lowering “musical artists” is so obvious it’s near impossible for me to like them even if they did have a good song or two. Shit music like this gets crammed down everyone’s throats without considering the merits of the music on it’s own terms while struggling talented song writers and bands continue on without public notice. For that reason I can’t even consider Justin Bieber. He’s just kind of there for me…a constant blip on my radar where I hear the ping but ignore completely. And I don’t want to consider him. So stop saying things I agree with. I already have Justin Timberlake who I reluctantly like, I don’t need another exception to the rule.

    • grooveboss

      <3

  • coffeenmorphine

    He’s got no business commenting on such things. Canada is the best place in the world, but he’s obviously never paid taxes. Because if he did, he’d know we actually do pay for doctors visits. He needs to go to school. Also, needs better handlers.

  • coffeenmorphine

    He’s got no business commenting on such things. Canada is the best place in the world, but he’s obviously never paid taxes. Because if he did, he’d know we actually do pay for doctors visits. He needs to go to school. Also, needs better handlers.

    • Butter Knife

      You sure do, but you still pay 40% less, and if USians were to see full health insurance costs on their paychecks, rather than just the tiny portion we pay out of known income, we’d probably quit pretending that Canadian taxes are so unbearable.

      Indeed, no sane employer determines pay or benefits without calculating the taxes and costs they would have to pay that don’t make it onto a W2, so the very notion that such fees and taxes exist is essentially one big lie told to every working person in the country. We have no idea how high our taxes actually are, nor our health care costs, and as such it should come as no surprise that hardly anyone is in a position to make rational decisions about those amounts. Fuck accountants, fuck tax attorneys, fuck politicians who want to tax us covertly via wage suppression, fuck insurers who don’t want us knowing how much a fundamental service costs. We need to simplify the system, because we need to discuss these numbers like adults, and that’s impossible until everyone actually knows what the numbers are.

      • quartz99

        I don’t know across the board, but for a slightly above average salary with slightly above average benefits at a normal large corporation, that number is about $40k/yr per employee. That works out to a little more than half again whatever the stated “salary” is. I’m not sure how that breaks down exactly. It includes unemployment insurance paid to the state and fees involved with administering the 401k, not just the company’s part of the health insurance plan. Sorry I can’t be more specific on the numbers; it would break my employment contract. But the general rule I’ve seen for small business owners is to assume 1.5 to 2 times the salary of the employee when planning total employee costs and deciding whether or not you can afford to hire someone new.

  • Dunzain

    My bodyguard was fed up over my bickering, and went to Cuba to join the communist party.

  • Dunzain

    My bodyguard was fed up over my bickering, and went to Cuba to join the communist party.

  • Anonymous

    You’d think people would be able to look at studies like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_health_care_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States and see what a problem we have in the US. We spend almost twice as much, 40% of our population has no or nearly no access to health care of any kind (I imagine that number has actually gone up since 2007 with the recession) while in Canada it’s less than 10% with regular access but everyone is covered. Their system costs less AND covers more people. AND there’s a greater average life expectancy with lower infant mortality. This is really not rocket science.

  • Malatesting123

    I agree with your statement. I also feel curiously ill after finding JB’s statement reasonable and agreeable. I think I will get drunk and forget this whole incident.

  • Butter Knife

    You sure do, but you still pay 40% less, and if USians were to see full health insurance costs on their paychecks, rather than just the tiny portion we pay out of known income, we’d probably quit pretending that Canadian taxes are so unbearable.

    Indeed, no sane employer determines pay or benefits without calculating the taxes and costs they would have to pay that don’t make it onto a W2, so the very notion that such fees and taxes exist is essentially one big lie told to every working person in the country. We have no idea how high our taxes actually are, nor our health care costs, and as such it should come as no surprise that hardly anyone is in a position to make rational decisions about those amounts. Fuck accountants, fuck tax attorneys, fuck politicians who want to tax us covertly via wage suppression, fuck insurers who don’t want us knowing how much a fundamental service costs. We need to simplify the system, because we need to discuss these numbers like adults, and that’s impossible until everyone actually knows what the numbers are.

  • auntikrist

    I typically disregard the utterances of infants, when it comes to opinions. Meh and Feh on this child aqnd on Rolling Stone for being so stupid about this quasi-celebrity.

  • auntikrist

    I typically disregard the utterances of infants, when it comes to opinions. Meh and Feh on this child aqnd on Rolling Stone for being so stupid about this quasi-celebrity.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    There are only two classes of people who would care about anything Bieber related:

    girls too young to have relevant opinions or even relate said opinions eloquently

    and men too old to have any interest in him other than the unspeakable.

    I should probably add a third group…media whores willing to pimp the little dork to the two groups above.

  • grooveboss

    <3

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    There are only two classes of people who would care about anything Bieber related:

    girls too young to have relevant opinions or even relate said opinions eloquently

    and men too old to have any interest in him other than the unspeakable.

    I should probably add a third group…media whores willing to pimp the little dork to the two groups above.

  • Ranandar

    Just so everyone understands…
    In the U.S.A, a single person who is not on any type of group medical will have to pay around $300 a month for questionable insurance. All I ask is to be able to join a group plan or Public Option which would make the cost more like $50-60 a month.

  • Ranandar

    Just so everyone understands…
    In the U.S.A, a single person who is not on any type of group medical will have to pay around $300 a month for questionable insurance. All I ask is to be able to join a group plan or Public Option which would make the cost more like $50-60 a month.

    • quartz99

      It’s more if you’re a woman (in spite of the fact that most don’t cover anything related to pregnancy which is the only real difference in potential costs that could justify the difference) and depending on your age and whether or not they can claim you have a pre-existing condition — and most insurance is rigged so that even normal results on a physical will come back with “high blood pressure” or “high cholesterol” or something similar, because they can charge you more that way. My bp and cholesterol are both solidly in the middle of normal according to my doctor but I’m paying extra for both because the insurance company says they’re high and make me a “risk”. It was $800/mo for just me when I was on my employer’s healthcare plan a couple years back (Just to be clear, I’m perfectly healthy and not approaching old age). Less now but only because I shopped around and got my own.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know across the board, but for a slightly above average salary with slightly above average benefits at a normal large corporation, that number is about $40k/yr per employee. That works out to a little more than half again whatever the stated “salary” is. I’m not sure how that breaks down exactly. It includes unemployment insurance paid to the state and fees involved with administering the 401k, not just the company’s part of the health insurance plan. Sorry I can’t be more specific on the numbers; it would break my employment contract. But the general rule I’ve seen for small business owners is to assume 1.5 to 2 times the salary of the employee when planning total employee costs and deciding whether or not you can afford to hire someone new.

  • Anonymous

    It’s more if you’re a woman (in spite of the fact that most don’t cover anything related to pregnancy which is the only real difference in potential costs that could justify the difference) and depending on your age and whether or not they can claim you have a pre-existing condition — and most insurance is rigged so that even normal results on a physical will come back with “high blood pressure” or “high cholesterol” or something similar, because they can charge you more that way. My bp and cholesterol are both solidly in the middle of normal according to my doctor but I’m paying extra for both because the insurance company says they’re high and make me a “risk”. It was $800/mo for just me when I was on my employer’s healthcare plan a couple years back. Less now but only because I shopped around and got my own.

  • DeepCough

    What’s this, Bieber gettin’ political now? Look, man, don’t take Lennon’s route because: 1) You ain’t got half the talent Lennon had; 2) You’re Canadian, and therefore in the American psyche, a socialist, so your comments are already rebuked; 3) To further my previous point, being a political Canadian in the U.S. will not put you at the top of the Billboard charts–it will however put you on top of the FBI’s watchlist, son.

  • DeepCough

    What’s this, Bieber gettin’ political now? Look, man, don’t take Lennon’s route because: 1) You ain’t got half the talent Lennon had; 2) You’re Canadian, and therefore in the American psyche, a socialist, so your comments are already rebuked; 3) To further my previous point, being a political Canadian in the U.S. will not put you at the top of the Billboard charts–it will however put you on top of the FBI’s watchlist, son.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QNYCOKKYVDWHJ7DM2QNGKKLHJI Ian

      did you really just compare John Lennon to Justin Beiber? wtf is wrong with you?

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  • Pmwnorton

    I don’t really understand all the Bieber hate.He’s a 16 year old kid. People really have a lot of nasty opinions about what is little more than a child. Even when people might agree with his offhand statement about healthcare they have to make it clear that they detest his music. I don’t see how its any more or less vapid than Lady Gaga or Katty Perry. Its just pop entertainment. I’m not saying pop music can’t contain substance (Madonna kind of walked the line between Art and entertainment). Clearly though, Beiber is not attempting to transcend his role as a simple entertainer, he’s just offering his opinion. Which he is entitled too, and as a child and a pop singer he’s not exactly required to come with the in-text citations. Despite his handlers attempts to make him look like a card board cut out for pre-teen lust, his is still a fully 3-d human being.

  • Pmwnorton

    I don’t really understand all the Bieber hate.He’s a 16 year old kid. People really have a lot of nasty opinions about what is little more than a child. Even when people might agree with his offhand statement about healthcare they have to make it clear that they detest his music. I don’t see how its any more or less vapid than Lady Gaga or Katty Perry. Its just pop entertainment. I’m not saying pop music can’t contain substance (Madonna kind of walked the line between Art and entertainment). Clearly though, Beiber is not attempting to transcend his role as a simple entertainer, he’s just offering his opinion. Which he is entitled too, and as a child and a pop singer he’s not exactly required to come with the in-text citations. Despite his handlers attempts to make him look like a card board cut out for pre-teen lust, his is still a fully 3-d human being.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QNYCOKKYVDWHJ7DM2QNGKKLHJI Ian

    old people cross the border into what country for cheaper medicine? definitely not the u.s. case and point

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QNYCOKKYVDWHJ7DM2QNGKKLHJI Ian

    old people cross the border into what country for cheaper medicine? definitely not the u.s. case and point

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QNYCOKKYVDWHJ7DM2QNGKKLHJI Ian

    did you really just compare John Lennon to Justin Beiber? wtf is wrong with you?

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