Rand Paul: End ‘Welfare’ to Israel

Photo: Gage Skidmore (CC)

Photo: Gage Skidmore (CC)

Jennifer Epstein writes in the Politico:

“There are always problems in our nation’s capital that are more important than party affiliation, and I will always believe that,” Paul said. “It’s not necessarily tea party versus Republican Party, but I would say that if you ask me what’s more important — tackling our nation’s deficit, our nation’s debt problems or being a Republican — I would say tackling the debt.”

Paul also defended his calls to end aid to Israel, saying they’re just part of his bigger efforts at fiscal responsibility. “I’m not singling out Israel. I support Israel. I want to be known as a friend of Israel, but not with money you don’t have,” he said. “We can’t just borrow from our kids’ future and give it to countries, even if they are our friends.”

And, he said, giving money to the country is especially unwise considering Israel’s relative wealth. “I think they’re an important ally, but I also think that their per capita income is greater than probably three-fourths of the rest of the world,” he said. “Should we be giving free money or welfare to a wealthy nation? I don’t think so.”

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  • Hadrian999

    the aid to israel is just a back channel method of giving money to the american defense industry 75% of military aid to israel has to be spent in the usa, who is that money really aiding? Talking about cutting back money to the defense industry……good luck not ending up in a landfill or a torched car

  • Hadrian999

    the aid to israel is just a back channel method of giving money to the american defense industry 75% of military aid to israel has to be spent in the usa, who is that money really aiding? Talking about cutting back money to the defense industry……good luck not ending up in a landfill or a torched car

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    You don’t have to be a Wagner-listening, Nazi-antique collecting, closet anti-Semite to look at the numbers and call bullshit on throwing money at a country that has no need for it. America is broke…flinging piles of loot in every direction at once is idiotic…doubly so when its being flung at countries that aren’t financially crushed at the moment.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    You don’t have to be a Wagner-listening, Nazi-antique collecting, closet anti-Semite to look at the numbers and call bullshit on throwing money at a country that has no need for it. America is broke…flinging piles of loot in every direction at once is idiotic…doubly so when its being flung at countries that aren’t financially crushed at the moment.

  • Haystack

    A more compelling argument, in my mind, is that Israel isn’t going to make peace with the Palestinians while they can take unconditional US support for granted.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      Compelling to you…or I…or to anyone sane with priorities beyond the frantically partisan…

      …but for the diehard pro-Israel crowd…moral and ethical considerations are naive, passe and irrelevant. When addressing people like these…talk about hard fiscal reality…its a language they speak and understand. If you mention anything else…they just snort, scoff and toddle away. They understand carrots and sticks…the same way other borderline retarded farm animals do. It may seem crass…but when you’re dealing with people who, realistically, are actually that crass, it can be effective.

  • Haystack

    A more compelling argument, in my mind, is that Israel isn’t going to make peace with the Palestinians while they can take unconditional US support for granted.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Compelling to you…or I…or to anyone sane with priorities beyond the frantically partisan…

    …but for the diehard pro-Israel crowd…moral and ethical considerations are naive, passe and irrelevant. When addressing people like these…talk about hard fiscal reality…its a language they speak and understand. If you mention anything else…they just snort, scoff and toddle away. They understand carrots and sticks…the same way other borderline retarded farm animals do. It may seem crass…but when you’re dealing with people who, realistically, are actually that crass, it can be effective.

  • hunter349

    I may not agree with Rand Paul or the Tea Party on many issues (especially when they say that we shouldn’t provide for those who are most hurt by the system, healthcare comes to mind) but I do like to see a politician stick to their beliefs when they want to do something (cut spending in their case).

    I think Hadrian is completely correct about back channel spending on the aid issue also. Of all the money we pledged to Hati after the earthquake over 90% went to American companies and around 40% never left the country. It was spent on ad campaigns and “consulting” firms.

  • Anonymous

    I may not agree with Rand Paul or the Tea Party on many issues (especially when they say that we shouldn’t provide for those who are most hurt by the system, healthcare comes to mind) but I do like to see a politician stick to their beliefs when they want to do something (cut spending in their case).

    I think Hadrian is completely correct about back channel spending on the aid issue also. Of all the money we pledged to Hati after the earthquake over 90% went to American companies and around 40% never left the country. It was spent on ad campaigns and “consulting” firms.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UQFTKAFTLDZJ2PFFGQINTQK4ZY Sasha K

    I didn’t even have to read the article. I just read the name “Rand Paul” and stopped there. Everyone knows he’s a kook. Get back to Kentucky, you’re just a damn teabagging redneck.

    • Hypnos1

      Congratulations! You just reinforced your one-sided narrative. +2 internets

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UQFTKAFTLDZJ2PFFGQINTQK4ZY Sasha K

    I didn’t even have to read the article. I just read the name “Rand Paul” and stopped there. Everyone knows he’s a kook. Get back to Kentucky, you’re just a damn teabagging redneck.

  • Hypnos1

    Congratulations! You just reinforced your one-sided narrative. +2 internets

  • Simiantongue

    The major problem in establishing both the United States and Israel as nations was what to do with the indigenous people. Same solution. Kill ‘em. Without legality. Without mercy. Though a prerequisite in the dogma of capitalist societies is that it must be done profitably. Profitability is supposed to be perceived as progress in that dogma. This is often used as the underlying rationality of why it must be this way, at least, as a convenient psychological compartmentalization for those doing it, or for those who have had it done for them.

    • Yazi

      There is absolutely no relation between what the U.S. did to the native people, and the Jews’ situation in Israel.

      We’ve been saying “Next year in Jerusalem” for 2000 years. We are the natives. We weren’t in Europe because we wanted to be, we were there because the Romans forced us out.

      • Hadrian999

        did you read exodus at all?

  • Simiantongue

    The major problem in establishing both the United States and Israel as nations was what to do with the indigenous people. Same solution. Kill ‘em. Without legality. Without mercy. Though a prerequisite in the dogma of capitalist societies is that it must be done profitably. Profitability is supposed to be perceived as progress in that dogma. This is often used as the underlying rationality of why it must be this way, at least, as a convenient psychological compartmentalization for those doing it, or for those who have had it done for them.

  • Simiantongue

    The major problem in establishing both the United States and Israel as nations was what to do with the indigenous people. Same solution. Kill ‘em. Without legality. Without mercy. Though a prerequisite in the dogma of capitalist societies is that it must be done profitably. Profitability is supposed to be perceived as progress in that dogma. This is often used as the underlying rationality of why it must be this way, at least, as a convenient psychological compartmentalization for those doing it, or for those who have had it done for them.

  • Yazi

    There is absolutely no relation between what the U.S. did to the native people, and the Jews’ situation in Israel.

    We’ve been saying “Next year in Jerusalem” for 2000 years. We are the natives. We weren’t in Europe because we wanted to be, we were there because the Romans forced us out.

  • Yazi

    There is absolutely no relation between what the U.S. did to the native people, and the Jews’ situation in Israel.

    We’ve been saying “Next year in Jerusalem” for 2000 years. We are the natives. We weren’t in Europe because we wanted to be, we were there because the Romans forced us out.

  • Yazi

    There is absolutely no relation between what the U.S. did to the native people, and the Jews’ situation in Israel.

    We’ve been saying “Next year in Jerusalem” for 2000 years. We are the natives. We weren’t in Europe because we wanted to be, we were there because the Romans forced us out.

  • Hadrian999

    did you read exodus at all?

  • David Frost

    I absolutely despise Rand Paul and all of his incredibly stupid ideas. This is his new brain dead idea that is pretty equal to all the other “Libertarian” views of his. Like getting rid of the Department Of Education, the National Endowment for the Arts, the Americans With Disabilities Act, and laws that keep business from racially discriminating against African Americans…Another politician out to please daddy at the expense of the rest of the nation.

  • David Frost

    I absolutely despise Rand Paul and all of his incredibly stupid ideas. This is his new brain dead idea that is pretty equal to all the other “Libertarian” views of his. Like getting rid of the Department Of Education, the National Endowment for the Arts, the Americans With Disabilities Act, and laws that keep business from racially discriminating against African Americans…Another politician out to please daddy at the expense of the rest of the nation.

    • Hadrian999

      what do you see the benefits to Americans of military aid to israel?
      I see a few americans in the arms business benefiting but not a large number.

      • David Frost

        Actually thats a religious issue, in my case. I believe that the the end of time happens shortly after the world gangs up on Israel.

        Aside from that I read an overview of his budget proposal. It includes ending; the national endowment for the arts, the food stamps program, the department of energy, the department of housing and urban development, the consumer product safety commission, the corporation for public broadcasting, and most of the department of education as well. Thats why even the GOP thinks he is retarded right now.

  • Hadrian999

    what do you see the benefits to Americans of military aid to israel?
    I see a few americans in the arms business benefiting but not a large number.

  • Laws456

    I told people that while Rand’s domestic policies are sometimes scary, on foreign issues, he’s a rightie that Democrats can work with and he shows it here with an argument that’s very logical.

  • Anonymous

    I told people that while Rand’s domestic policies are sometimes scary, on foreign issues, he’s a rightie that Democrats can work with and he shows it here with an argument that’s very logical.

  • David Frost

    Actually thats a religious issue, in my case. I believe that the the end of time happens shortly after the world gangs up on Israel.

    Aside from that I read an overview of his budget proposal. It includes ending; the national endowment for the arts, the food stamps program, the department of energy, the department of housing and urban development, the consumer product safety commission, the corporation for public broadcasting, and most of the department of education as well. Thats why even the GOP thinks he is retarded right now.

  • Anonymous

    Why do the Nuck Futz bags are the only ones that get in the media are the only ones that actually talk about stuff that could help, like Nader talking about expanding use of “Charter Revokal” against big/corrupt/law breaking corporations…? Prolly answered my own question there.

  • greengestalt

    Why do the Nuck Futz bags are the only ones that get in the media are the only ones that actually talk about stuff that could help, like Nader talking about expanding use of “Charter Revokal” against big/corrupt/law breaking corporations…? Prolly answered my own question there.

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