Obama Quietly Rolls Back Miranda Rights

Miranda warningEvan Perez reporting for the Wall Street Journal:

New rules allow investigators to hold domestic-terror suspects longer than others without giving them a Miranda warning, significantly expanding exceptions to the instructions that have governed the handling of criminal suspects for more than four decades.

The move is one of the Obama administration’s most significant revisions to rules governing the investigation of terror suspects in the U.S. And it potentially opens a new political tussle over national security policy, as the administration marks another step back from pre-election criticism of unorthodox counterterror methods.

Once again, the threat of terrorism has given the executive branch carte blanche to roll back rights. Miranda rights, which required law officers to make you aware of your “right to remain silent”, were ubiquitous until 9/11. Today, Miranda warnings are archaic, filled with holes that make national security a higher priority than a person’s knowledge of their constitutional rights…

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19 Responses to Obama Quietly Rolls Back Miranda Rights

  1. Voidthought March 24, 2011 at 7:35 pm #

    Bill Hicks is rolling over in his grave…

  2. Voidthought March 24, 2011 at 3:35 pm #

    Bill Hicks is rolling over in his grave…

  3. Phobosunderground March 24, 2011 at 11:48 pm #

    Can anyone else see what is just starting?

  4. Phobosunderground March 24, 2011 at 7:48 pm #

    Can anyone else see what is just starting?

    • Haystack March 24, 2011 at 10:16 pm #

      From a mile away. The fact that they can get away with being so obvious about it is what makes it so frustrating.

  5. Hunter Coch March 25, 2011 at 12:30 am #

    Obama = Bush

  6. Hunter Coch March 24, 2011 at 8:30 pm #

    Obama = Bush

    • Ironaddict06 March 25, 2011 at 12:21 pm #

      No that can’t be. This must be some type of right wing or left wing PSYOP.
      Personally I love reading articles like this. As an American it’s sad to see America dying right in front of your eyes. I’d like to see BHO get re-elected in 2012. BHO needs to go all the way to the Left, not only free Medical care for everyone, free Dental and Eye care. Continue to condemn Christianity and promote the Virtues and Culture of Islasm. Build a Mosque in every city, and require every student in America to learn about the Islamic culture. Open the boarders in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California. Last but not Least-ALL branches of the U.S. Military will be required to have a certain % of Blacks, Hispanics, Women, Gays, Lesbians, Muslims, etc..that represent the American population. The Joint Chiefs of Staff will be required to have atleast 2 people of each representing group.

  7. Haystack March 25, 2011 at 2:16 am #

    From a mile away. The fact that they can get away with being so obvious about it is what makes it so frustrating.

  8. Haystack March 25, 2011 at 2:16 am #

    From a mile away. The fact that they can get away with being so obvious about it is what makes it so frustrating.

  9. Marklar Kronkite March 25, 2011 at 4:48 am #

    Just goes to show you need to know your rights and excercise them without the need for some armed thug to remind you of them. NEVER talk to a police officer as it can be used against you in a court of law but can never be used FOR you in a court of law. Saying NOTHING is always the smart thing to do even if you are innocent of any wrong doing.

  10. Marklar_Prime March 25, 2011 at 12:48 am #

    Just goes to show you need to know your rights and excercise them without the need for some armed thug to remind you of them. NEVER talk to a police officer as it can be used against you in a court of law but can never be used FOR you in a court of law. Saying NOTHING is always the smart thing to do even if you are innocent of any wrong doing.

  11. 5by5 March 25, 2011 at 12:24 pm #

    Here’s my question — was the Wall St Journal just not paying attention, or are they intentionally lying? Because these changes to Miranda were instituted under the Bush Administration.

    And proof that Republicans are behind this is the fact that you’ve got the McCarthy of Muslims, Republican Rep Peter King being totally excited about this prospect.

    As for the “Obama” Justice Department, that’s a bit of a misnomer. During BushCo., they violated the hiring practices that have been honored by both parties for literally decades, and put partisan political operatives into non-partisan positions (partisans swap out with each new administration – the non-partisan bureaucratic positions stick around across administrations, so this was basically a way for the Shrub to install a Red Cell inside future administrations). That’s what that whole Alberto “Torquemada” Gonzales hearing thing revealed while they were investigating the U.S. Attorney scandal. They were hiring law enforcement people according to their hard-rightwing views, and the person in charge of hiring was a “graduate” of Pat Robertson’s crazy religious “university”, who would ask them questions like, “Do you believe in evolution?” to vet them. She also believed that one took an oath to serve Bush, not an oath to serve the Constitution. So a lot of the crap you see over and JD is the fallout from that BS.

    ALL THAT SAID, where the criticism of Obama IS correct, is that he shouldn’t just be letting this idiocy continue, and yet, he is. Which pisses me off as a Liberal, as much as it pisses off any Libertarian.

  12. 5by5 March 25, 2011 at 8:24 am #

    Here’s my question — was the Wall St Journal just not paying attention, or are they intentionally lying? Because these changes to Miranda were instituted under the Bush Administration.

    And proof that Republicans are behind this is the fact that you’ve got the McCarthy of Muslims, Republican Rep Peter King being totally excited about this prospect.

    As for the “Obama” Justice Department, that’s a bit of a misnomer. During BushCo., they violated the hiring practices that have been honored by both parties for literally decades, and put partisan political operatives into non-partisan positions (partisans swap out with each new administration – the non-partisan bureaucratic positions stick around across administrations, so this was basically a way for the Shrub to install a Red Cell inside future administrations). That’s what that whole Alberto “Torquemada” Gonzales hearing thing revealed while they were investigating the U.S. Attorney scandal. They were hiring law enforcement people according to their hard-rightwing views, and the person in charge of hiring was a “graduate” of Pat Robertson’s crazy religious “university”, who would ask them questions like, “Do you believe in evolution?” to vet them. She also believed that one took an oath to serve Bush, not an oath to serve the Constitution. So a lot of the crap you see over and JD is the fallout from that BS.

    ALL THAT SAID, where the criticism of Obama IS correct, is that he shouldn’t just be letting this idiocy continue, and yet, he is. Which pisses me off as a Liberal, as much as it pisses off any Libertarian.

  13. Ironaddict06 March 25, 2011 at 4:21 pm #

    No that can’t be. This must be some type of right wing or left wing PSYOP.
    Personally I love reading articles like this. As an American it’s sad to see America dying right in front of your eyes. I’d like to see BHO get re-elected in 2012. BHO needs to go all the way to the Left, not only free Medical care for everyone, free Dental and Eye care. Continue to condemn Christianity and promote the Virtues and Culture of Islasm. Build a Mosque in every city, and require every student in America to learn about the Islamic culture. Open the boarders in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California. Last but not Least-ALL branches of the U.S. Military will be required to have a certain % of Blacks, Hispanics, Women, Gays, Lesbians, Muslims, etc..that represent the American population. The Joint Chiefs of Staff will be required to have atleast 2 people of each representing group.

  14. VoxMagi March 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm #

    Obama is just adding the icing to the shit cake thats been cooking for nearly 35 years. The line between ‘terrorist’ and ‘anybody who annoys us’ has been blurring for decades, one notch at a time. He’s just the steward at the moment…and he’s been as irrelevant and complicit as the last half dozen asshats before him. It was another generations fight to grant these rights to people…they didn’t come for free. Now its going to be our generations fight to get them back…although we may have to wait until the ‘Boomers’ (read that as another word for suckers) die off before we can generate any real momentum.

  15. VoxMagi March 25, 2011 at 6:52 pm #

    Obama is just adding the icing to the shit cake thats been cooking for nearly 35 years. The line between ‘terrorist’ and ‘anybody who annoys us’ has been blurring for decades, one notch at a time. He’s just the steward at the moment…and he’s been as irrelevant and complicit as the last half dozen asshats before him. It was another generations fight to grant these rights to people…they didn’t come for free. Now its going to be our generations fight to get them back…although we may have to wait until the ‘Boomers’ (read that as another word for suckers) die off before we can generate any real momentum.

  16. Bud Bundy March 25, 2011 at 10:54 pm #

    This is what we get for electing Tzeentch.

  17. Bud Bundy March 25, 2011 at 6:54 pm #

    This is what we get for electing Tzeentch.

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