Outrage Over South Korea’s Mass Live Burial Of Pigs

By JacobSloan on March 24, 2011 in News 98

Factory farming practices are always bloody and cruel, but this seems to go above and beyond. Following an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease, since December South Korea has killed 20% of its domestic livestock — 3 million animals have been exterminated, mostly pigs, who are being buried alive by the thousands in gigantic pits. The practice is traumatizing workers (who hear the pigs’ screams in their sleep) and provoking outrage around the world. Video footage is difficult to sit through:

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Voidthought

If these people who harvest livestock wouldn’t cut corners to save money and deal with the overwhelming amounts of pig shit and piss then this wouldn’t news. The reason this shit is going down is because people just want to make more money and spend the least amount they can in the process which means compromising various elements of the process. Dealing with the excrement of these animals and treating them with some goddamn respect and humility would go a long way in healing our own deep seated pathology that is ever-present AROUND THE GLOBE! After all we do eat the animals, they don’t willingly subject themselves to humans; so a little respect is the least we could do for their sacrifice.
Voidthought

If these people who harvest livestock wouldn’t cut corners to save money and deal with the overwhelming amounts of pig shit and piss then this wouldn’t news. The reason this shit is going down is because people just want to make more money and spend the least amount they can in the process which means compromising various elements of the process. Dealing with the excrement of these animals and treating them with some goddamn respect and humility would go a long way in healing our own deep seated pathology that is ever-present AROUND THE GLOBE! After all we do eat the animals, they don’t willingly subject themselves to humans; so a little respect is the least we could do for their sacrifice.
- http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken
  
  That doesn’t make for much of an explanation to me, being as how if you were truly motivated by profits then you would do everything in your power to prevent having to literally waste 3 million pigs… that’s a lot of money being thrown away and sanitation is a meager price comparatively speaking.
  Perhaps you would find a more sinister culprit to blame if you didn’t end your analysis before you began; perhaps the blame rests on lack of education or a misunderstanding, like you clearly have, of how businesses most effectively operate.
  
  It seems to me that all societies go through this ‘phase’ in their growth of industry, where they first try to cut corners and see how far they can go (and tightening your belt is hardly a bad idea; it saves resources that would be better suited for other purposes) and they learn their limits only by making mistakes.
  
  Hopefully they will learn from this and grow as an industry. That video sucked to watch and I definitely wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that operation, and I’m sure there’s a ton of people in South Korea that are working so that they never have to do that again.
  
  And to the people who are fuming at the farmers and calling to have them killed and maimed as well, what the hell do you expect them to do? Honestly, I could think of a few better solutions than this but either way a bunch of animals were / are going to die senselessly; they really don’t have the resources to dedicate to dressing each one in a suit and giving it a casket burial so the best you can hope for is for this to never happen again.
  
  At least put your pitch forks away and start thinking of some real solutions.
  - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith
    
    The pigs were gonna die anyway; but instead of using a seperate slaughtering facility to kill them, they dug a hole in the ground.
    That is sick.
    And that is what they could afford to do, apparently, having lost so much money on the pigs. Isn’t CO2 gas more humane?
    Lying in a pit getting slowly crushed to death for hours by your friends and family while those underneath you turn into blood and shit, is perhaps a higher price to pay for their disposal.
  - Voidthought
    
    You are missing the point.. I wasn’t simply leaning towards the ‘animal rights’ side to justify the incompetence of these people. You attack my knowledge of the situation which I admit is lacking but I think was thought out, because I don’t believe I ever concluded that my response what the only reason. If you ask me, I agree with Plato that knowledge is merely recollection. Shamans know more on how to live than most people in the Western world, and they are supposedly a “primitive people”. Hopefully they will learn, how to take better care of keeping their livestocks environment clean so disease doesnt flourish.
    If there is a more sinister motive then point it out dude! The owners of this world have stifled progress in many countries around the world yet we call them “underdeveloped”. India had a more advanced textile industry in the 1800s than Britian, but Britian invaded and destroyed that industry and made the Indians serve their interest. Africa was a RICH country of resources and ecology yet it was destabilized because the owners of the world wanted control. The Native Americans had the most advanced form of Democracy the world has seen yet they were annihilated and demonized because the elites didn’t have control over them. And you can see similar situations occuring even today with Gaddafi now being demonized even though he used the wealth from his oil industry to cut taxes on food creating the highest standard of living on the whole continent; started foresting areas of his country, explored a watershed that was recently discovered; and the destabilization in the 80s of Yugoslavia, which had a prosperous economy and high standard of living. Yet the powers that be wanted to make sure no one runs astray from their grip of control…. how’s that for a more sinister reason!!!!!
    If you think that video sucked to watch go watch the documentary Earthlings which details our use of animals, in every aspect, food, clothing, entertainment, etc.
    Here is a fact: A for-profit corporation is bound by law to maxmize profits for their shareholders and managers, regardless of its impact on society, environment, et cetera. “and tightening your belt is hardly a bad idea; it saves resources that would be better suited for other purposes” – Really? You tell me now who has the uneducated opinion… and why even tell me that? The article explains that these pigs got foot and mouth disease. Do you know why these things happen??!?!? That is not a NATURAL OCCURRENCE…. Just like cancer isn’t a NATURAL OCCURRENCE…. I’m glad you pointed out my supposed ignorance because it helps me reconfirm things that I’ve been learning. And I know I’ve been rambling..
    - Konkolli
      
      After reading your reply to Ken I realized something you may have overlooked. . . The actual video. Did you actually watch it all the way through. I hope not. I wish I hadn’t. I see where your reply was eyeopening for me when it comes to the way gaddafi has become an enemy#1 according to the media and Obama. I was very suspicious about the intentions of the UN and the presidents swift decision to go protect the democratic way of life.or whatever human injustices were going on in someone elses country. I don’t know much about politics (obviously I’m sure) but all I could think was what do they have over there that Obama wants. Therehad to be some kind of diversion going on here. Thank you for bringing some light on that for me. But when it comes to the obscene way they went about destroying those infected pigs I truly believe that money was not the issue. But perhaps an excuse to show the world how a pig can truly make man unclean and impure by touching or eating pork. more like pure EVIL. It really was not the way I ever would expect a human being to treat another living animal.Beyond cruel. And absolutely not necessary to go about it in that way. not to mention the heavy machinery that tediously and wasting gas ,prolonging the sheer torture of these creatures. A fall off a cliff or even a drowning is still a thousand times more humane than what these unsympathetic workers pulled. I really was heartbreaking. It was as if they were blaming the pigs for causing the loss of profit.well I guess some people really take their business failures to heart.(as if they have one) sorry for rambling also. just upset.
      - Voidthought
        
        If you look at the way these pigs and other animals are being processed for food in our meat-loving culture you would see the neglect for clean environments for these animals. If a nation harvests billions of land animals a year, imagine the excrement those land animals produce AND in such a concentrated area… you can only imagine the results of this.
    - http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken
      
      “A for-profit corporation is bound by law to maxmize profits for their shareholders and managers, regardless of its impact on society, environment, et cetera”
      
      And who provides that profit?
      
      People who want them to have it. Money isn’t evil. Assuming you aren’t a thief or call yourself a government, ie: you didn’t steal it, then you earned that wealth by producing something of value. It doesn’t just fall from the sky by doing evil things. It’s not some useless, wasteful concept that exists solely to oppress poor people and animals. By using currency you create an ecosystem that most effectively utilizes the collective resources of our world according to the collective wants and needs of the economic actors. The more value you bring to the world then the more say you have in how the worlds resources should be utilized. Of course thieves and thugs distort this and cause global problems that make it hard to analyze the real cause of our symptoms, but blaming things like “these people want to make PROFIT!” is down-right ignorant. What do you suggest? That people don’t have incentive to profit? You do realize that when your incentive is to profit (whether you put more value on being nice to pigs or on efficiency is personal, and in reality everything has SOME value to it that is calculated into what you do) then you are working to utilize our limited, finite resources in the best way possible and bring as much value to the people you interact with as you can, right?
      
      You should start with reading about the broken window fallacy. Then read about how money works and why it exists. A GREAT staring point is a book by Murray Rothbard called “Case Against the Fed”. It’s a small book no bigger than most short stories and the first few chapters are all you really need to read about monetary theory. A great topic in general to study is Praxeology; it’s the study of human interaction and incentives. All people work on incentives and risk / reward; it’s a law of economics that you can’t avoid any more than you can avoid laws of physics (unless someone really does invent a perpetual energy source and learns alchemy).
      
      It will seriously help you to develop a better understanding of how these things work and why people do the things they do so that you can more effectively produce a solution, instead of ranting on some webforum about EVIL PROFITZ and such. You’re dead on about imperialism and statists being one of the biggest banes of mankind, but you can’t blame the problems they create on other things and ignore possible solutions to THAT problem.
      - Voidthought
        
        I’m not trying to gain a better understand of how this insane system works, I know the basics of the monetary system. There is a new form of slavery and it is economic and it is manufactured. So if your argument is solely on the basis of what’s right for economic law and profit then you may have a deep form of neurosis! I dont see this system working nor has it ever worked on the basis of competition or profit based “incentive”. The reason we have so many mental aberrations is because of this deranged form of thinking we have about how we are suppose to interact with the world!! The problem lies in economics and if you dont see the proof, drive to a poor part of your city and start talking to people! There is a stratification in this country and it isn’t as simply is telling poor or bum people to get up off their ass and try to do something about themselves. The system IS DESIGNED for bums and poor people, how can you not see this?? The only way our current money-market, economic system could benefit everyone is if wealth was evenly distributed. The reason this is such a condemned ideology(socialism) is because the way people’s minds are fixed about how people are and that is the way that the elitist stay in power!!!!! DUH! WINNING! In Indian tribes, every member of the tribe would have to benefit the community but they were all valued as individuals; everyone had a say in the matters at hand. And that is the very construct of a democratic society, not a socialist one. We are on the road we are on because of the way the system is currently operating, which is in the interest of the elite. This idea of profit you have is so far gone and frankly backwards and yet we have the nerve to call ourselves enlightened and intelligent. And you said something about corporations providing a service? I am pretty sure that it is the people performing or setting up the service, which happen to be economically well below the wealthy “big wigs”, that are providing the service, therefore the CEOs NEVER have produced anything. You may say well its their fault for not thinking of that idea… and if that’s the case then damn we really are lost aren’t we? Perhaps we need to step back from rationalism and take a hint from our spiritual side, our innerworld… that is if you still possess one. We are so spiritually deprived that we have seen an influx of eastern and primitive traditions seeping into our way of life because people can’t seem to find any ACTUAL spirituality. The material world is not all there is and to be honest not only is it devoid of long lasting meaning, it seems like that’s all people care about. The people of this earth have been transformed from producers to consumers, where you are measured by the amount of wealth you have acquired, how ruthlessly you can get to a position of power and all the like. I value something much more eternal, much more useful in life and that is the internal realm of man. The inner world where you develop as a sentient being to become a better people and by the end of it all, will have loved every moment. If your world is that of profit, competition and dominance over other things then you will never find a truly happy place, but a manufactured one of your own creation and you will destroy other forms of life in the process. If you haven’t noticed our blight on this planet is increasingly becoming unstable because we have maliciously abused ourselves, other Earthlings and the planet itself trying to selfishly find some truth in our existence. I believe we already have found this but have lost it in our ignorance of our ancestors. I’m sure if we were to ask our ancestors for advice, they would advise us to love and not give us insider trading tips….
        
        In closing, we need a new system to interact with the world and capitalism, domineering and competition(etc.) are all catalysts for malignant behavior.
      - http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken
        
        “The only way our current money-market, economic system could benefit everyone is if wealth was evenly distributed.”
        
        +1 internet point for ignoring historical precedent.
        
        After that: tldnr.
      - Voidthought
        
        Ignoring historical precedent.. I was using that to justify that our way of dealing with this planet and our species is highly inefficient and effectively destructive and wasteful. Thanks for arguing your point, I always enjoy a good debate… but I’m always right so… too bad for you. =)
      - http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken
        
        You really didn’t debate anything, just wrote some nonsensical crap that you just admitted has no real basis in reality and then made a bunch of more extravagant claims. Kinda disappointing, but I guess I shouldn’t expect much more than that from someone named ‘void thought’. You didn’t even reference a single point I made; it’s like you have a massive rant from a failed college course that you copypasta onto websites for kicks…
        
        That’s not how you argue your case dude; you gotta make a point and then justify it, not just claim victory and then proceed to preach to the ignorant masses who are all so enthralled by your profundity.
        
        It also would really help your case to use paragraphs…
  - Tuna Ghost
    
    That doesn’t make for much of an explanation to me, being as how if you were truly motivated by profits then you would do everything in your power to prevent having to literally waste 3 million pigs… that’s a lot of money being thrown away and sanitation is a meager price comparatively speaking.
    
    You’d think that, but Korean farmers get huge subsidies from the goverment. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the farmers forced to terminate their livestock are recompensated.
    
    This whole Hoof and Mouth bullshit is getting on my nerves, this live burial thing has happened before in the year and a half since I’ve bee here. Festivals are closed because people are worried cars make carry the disease into new towns and shit like that, it’s a huge goddam hassle.
Sickened

This is fucking disgusting, those farmers in control need be be burried in there with the pigs for such a waist and disgrace. At the very least make sure they get some foot and mouth in their ass.
C_cottingham

This is so hideous,how can they do that!? That is a very sad,sad method to rid themselves of those animals. I Hope this is stopped.
C_cottingham

This is so hideous,how can they do that!? That is a very sad,sad method to rid themselves of those animals. I Hope this is stopped.
- Konkolli
  
  I’ll bet the fuel for the bull dozer cost about twice as much as cyanide or carbon monoxide would have.This is just about the most awful video I think I have ever witnessed in my life. I cannot believe these workers lack of empathy for the suffering of another living being. They disturb me. They certainly did not have to slaughter these animals so atrociously. I think they are just horrible. I’m so sorry for the whole situation,I’ll have this burned in my brain haunting me for the rest of theday or maybe forever. I Hope this is stopped also.
  - Anarchy Pony
    
    Actually, many of the workers reported having psychological breakdowns and nightmares. Hearing the screams forever in their sleep.
  - Tuna Ghost
    
    well, its the cheapest way to both terminate the pigs and keep the carcasses from spreading the disease. Horrible, but as cost effective as wasting tons and tons of product can be.
http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken

That doesn’t make for much of an explanation to me, being as how if you were truly motivated by profits then you would do everything in your power to prevent having to literally waste 3 million pigs… that’s a lot of money being thrown away and sanitation is a meager price comparatively speaking.
Perhaps you would find a more sinister culprit to blame if you didn’t end your analysis before you began; perhaps the blame rests on lack of education or a misunderstanding, like you clearly have, of how businesses most effectively operate.

It seems to me that all societies go through this ‘phase’ in their growth of industry, where they first try to cut corners and see how far they can go (and tightening your belt is hardly a bad idea; it saves resources that would be better suited for other purposes) and they learn their limits only by making mistakes.

Hopefully they will learn from this and grow as an industry. That video sucked to watch and I definitely wouldn’t want to be anywhere near that operation, and I’m sure there’s a ton of people in South Korea that are working so that they never have to do that again.

And to the people who are fuming at the farmers and calling to have them killed and maimed as well, what the hell do you expect them to do? Honestly, I could think of a few better solutions than this but either way a bunch of animals were / are going to die senselessly; they really don’t have the resources to dedicate to dressing each one in a suit and giving it a casket burial so the best you can hope for is for this to never happen again.

At least put your pitch forks away and start thinking of some real solutions.
Dave26027

Buried alive? I understand the need to exterminate with the threat of a highly dangerous, contagous disease but it couldn’t have been done any cheaper and in such a disturbing manner.
Dave26027

Buried alive? I understand the need to exterminate with the threat of a highly dangerous, contagous disease but it couldn’t have been done any cheaper and in such a disturbing manner.
irishpotatogun

why does bacon taste so good
irishpotatogun

why does bacon taste so good
- Robert Plant-killer
  
  Its the bittersweet taste of the infernal noose tightening around your soul…
  - Voidthought
    
    LOL!! Oh I love it!
Corrie

This problem is NOT just in Korea or any ocverseas country it goes on on North America as well. I myself have fought pig “farms” from growing larger and making countys enforce their own bylaws regarding the practices of said “farming” that isn’t even farming anymore. Its manufacturing.Thats why all these diseases are so prevalent. Thats why antibiotics are bought by the drum Up the road from us they ground up diseased dead pigs (at least thet killed them first) and fed them to healthy sows saying it would make them immune to the diseas in question and after we sold out our property (at full disclosure, it still sold)and moved away because we couldn’t stand the smell(Before you say anything we come from a farm background and these ARE not traditional farms) all the diseased hogs were moved into one barn to “contain” the illness and the barn inadvertantly started on fire in the early hours of the morning by a welding spark and burned to the ground with all the LIVE hogs inside screaming for their lives. The area smelled like burning ham and bacon for weeks and the volunteer fire department stayed on scene for 2 weeks to put out the fires from the hog fat. Believe it or not the insurance company paid this claim believeing the diseased hogs were all in one barn,the fire was an accident. The farm went into recievership 1 month later. This particular video is extremely distressing as the animals are shown alive, I have experienced this, it is as sickening as you believe. For god sake, kill them first, they are living breathing animals.
Corrie

This problem is NOT just in Korea or any ocverseas country it goes on on North America as well. I myself have fought pig “farms” from growing larger and making countys enforce their own bylaws regarding the practices of said “farming” that isn’t even farming anymore. Its manufacturing.Thats why all these diseases are so prevalent. Thats why antibiotics are bought by the drum Up the road from us they ground up diseased dead pigs (at least thet killed them first) and fed them to healthy sows saying it would make them immune to the diseas in question and after we sold out our property (at full disclosure, it still sold)and moved away because we couldn’t stand the smell(Before you say anything we come from a farm background and these ARE not traditional farms) all the diseased hogs were moved into one barn to “contain” the illness and the barn inadvertantly started on fire in the early hours of the morning by a welding spark and burned to the ground with all the LIVE hogs inside screaming for their lives. The area smelled like burning ham and bacon for weeks and the volunteer fire department stayed on scene for 2 weeks to put out the fires from the hog fat. Believe it or not the insurance company paid this claim believeing the diseased hogs were all in one barn,the fire was an accident. The farm went into recievership 1 month later. This particular video is extremely distressing as the animals are shown alive, I have experienced this, it is as sickening as you believe. For god sake, kill them first, they are living breathing animals.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith
  
  Unbelievable; it’s really the wild west everywhere these days: lawlessness abounds, and a few good people stand-up for justice.
- Konkolli
  
  Are you still involved with fighting against these so called “farmers” ? I’m curious for more info on how one would go about preventing these kind of crimes against humanity or humaneness. And by the way . Way to go!! I’m glad someone is actually proactive about this poisoning of humankind.
Robert Plant-killer

Its the bittersweet taste of the infernal noose tightening around your soul…
Anonymous

Pig meat doesn’t taste good. No meat tastes good to most humans, try eating some raw and you’ll see. What tastes good are the glycation products formed by cooking the meat, and the flavorants (salt, oil, et cetera) we add to it.
JoiquimCouteau

Pig meat doesn’t taste good. No meat tastes good to most humans, try eating some raw and you’ll see. What tastes good are the glycation products formed by cooking the meat, and the flavorants (salt, oil, et cetera) we add to it.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=580380351 Potter Dee
  
  raw beef and lamb are delicious.
- Paul Boillot
  
  Mmmmm bacon.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith

We are pure fucking evil, and don’t even know it.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith

We are pure fucking evil, and don’t even know it.
- Anarchy Pony
  
  Evil doesn’t exist. And know that WE aren’t. Civilization created the institutions in which such circumstances arise. Humanity is locking itself inside its own prison.
  Burn the cities.
  Cut the power.
  Some day, we’ll be free.
  To be free as our ancestors were long, long ago.
- CrystalRaye
  
  No, we know it. Big businesses just don’t care.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith

And all is darkness here; no god can see this without reproachment; i say again here is proof that we can create evil.
No problem is too big that it cannot be solved by man, in turn; but we should seek it’s resolution, rather than fall by the wayside mired in shame, confirming weakness.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith

And all is darkness here; no god can see this without reproachment; i say again here is proof that we can create evil.
No problem is too big that it cannot be solved by man, in turn; but we should seek it’s resolution, rather than fall by the wayside mired in shame, confirming weakness.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith

The pigs were gonna die anyway; but instead of using a seperate slaughtering facility to kill them, they dug a hole in the ground.
That is sick.
And that is what they could afford to do, apparently, having lost so much money on the pigs. Isn’t CO2 gas more humane?
Lying in a pit getting slowly crushed to death for hours by your friends and family while those underneath you turn into blood and shit, is perhaps a higher price to pay for their disposal.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=811780393 Angelus Smith

Unbelievable; it’s really the wild west everywhere these days: lawlessness abounds, and a few good people stand-up for justice.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=580380351 Potter Dee

raw beef and lamb are delicious.
Tcypull1992

im going to be sick…
Tcypull1992

im going to be sick…
Brentskinner5

This is horrible. Anyone with a heart deplores this kind of treatment of animals. I just find it ironic that those who decry this kind of treatment the most tend to point to capitalism as necessarily the culprit, because what he have in this video is evidence of the worst example of such treatment, and it takes place in a state that rejects every tenet of capitalism. I’m just saying. Does that mean capitalism has nothing to do with it? Well, is that really the best question to ask about all this?
- Andrew
  
  This happened in South Korea, not North Korea.
Brentskinner5

This is horrible. Anyone with a heart deplores this kind of treatment of animals. I just find it ironic that those who decry this kind of treatment the most tend to point to capitalism as necessarily the culprit, because what he have in this video is evidence of the worst example of such treatment, and it takes place in a state that rejects every tenet of capitalism. I’m just saying. Does that mean capitalism has nothing to do with it? Well, is that really the best question to ask about all this?
Andrew

This happened in South Korea, not North Korea.
Voidthought

You are missing the point.. I wasn’t simply leaning towards the ‘animal rights’ side to justify the incompetence of these people. You attack my knowledge of the situation which I admit is lacking but I think was thought out, because I don’t believe I ever concluded that my response what the only reason. If you ask me, I agree with Plato that knowledge is merely recollection. Shamans know more on how to live than most people in the Western world, and they are supposedly a “primitive people”. Hopefully they will learn, how to take better care of keeping their livestocks environment clean so disease doesnt flourish.
If there is a more sinister motive then point it out dude! The owners of this world have stifled progress in many countries around the world yet we call them “underdeveloped”. India had a more advanced textile industry in the 1800s than Britian, but Britian invaded and destroyed that industry and made the Indians serve their interest. Africa was a RICH country of resources and ecology yet it was destabilized because the owners of the world wanted control. The Native Americans had the most advanced form of Democracy the world has seen yet they were annihilated and demonized because the elites didn’t have control over them. And you can see similar situations occuring even today with Gaddafi now being demonized even though he used the wealth from his oil industry to cut taxes on food creating the highest standard of living on the whole continent; started foresting areas of his country, explored a watershed that was recently discovered; and the destabilization in the 80s of Yugoslavia, which had a prosperous economy and high standard of living. Yet the powers that be wanted to make sure no one runs astray from their grip of control…. how’s that for a more sinister reason!!!!!
If you think that video sucked to watch go watch the documentary Earthlings which details our use of animals, in every aspect, food, clothing, entertainment, etc.
Here is a fact: A for-profit corporation is bound by law to maxmize profits for their shareholders and managers, regardless of its impact on society, environment, et cetera. “and tightening your belt is hardly a bad idea; it saves resources that would be better suited for other purposes” – Really? You tell me now who has the uneducated opinion… and why even tell me that? The article explains that these pigs got foot and mouth disease. Do you know why these things happen??!?!? That is not a NATURAL OCCURRENCE…. Just like cancer isn’t a NATURAL OCCURRENCE…. I’m glad you pointed out my supposed ignorance because it helps me reconfirm things that I’ve been learning. And I know I’ve been rambling..
Voidthought

LOL!! Oh I love it!
Eltigabii

well, that was HORRIBLE to watch… I just ate a few strips of bacon too, I feel like throwing up and never eating pork again. The best thing to do is do not support greedy meat packing companies who overcrowd their facilities and make their animals walk in shit all day long. Perdue, Tyson, etc… not everyone can afford to buy organic chicken, beef, or pork, but your money is your vote on change.
Eltigabii

well, that was HORRIBLE to watch… I just ate a few strips of bacon too, I feel like throwing up and never eating pork again. The best thing to do is do not support greedy meat packing companies who overcrowd their facilities and make their animals walk in shit all day long. Perdue, Tyson, etc… not everyone can afford to buy organic chicken, beef, or pork, but your money is your vote on change.
Paul Boillot

Mmmmm bacon.
Diogo

they already lost a lot of money with these animals.
if it’s a epidemy, then, it’s easy to decide.
would you kill these animals or let them infect your children?
these diseases are not easy, it can kill a whole lot of people.
you’re saying its cruel, but the government won’t give them money to kill properly, so they have to do what they can
- Konkolli
  
  I feel that money may not have been the explanation for the deliberately malicious tortured end of the infected animals.how much money do you think it cost in fuel to tediously try to shove these hogs into the container? It was as if it was a sport. I know for a fact pigs can be led wherever without much coaxing. The use of the heavy equipment was inefficient and I’m sure the gas that was wasted while the operator was having maneuvre practice was not cheaper than the gas to euthanize these suddenly expendable and now unprofitable livestock. I’m so disturbed, . . I can’t even make any sense. Yes I know these animals DID have to be destroyed, but why so cruelly?
Diogo

they already lost a lot of money with these animals.
if it’s a epidemy, then, it’s easy to decide.
would you kill these animals or let them infect your children?
these diseases are not easy, it can kill a whole lot of people.
you’re saying its cruel, but the government won’t give them money to kill properly, so they have to do what they can
NnI_InN

Things like this, convince me that the human race is evil
NnI_InN

Things like this, convince me that the human race is evil
- Anarchy Pony
  
  No, just civilization.
  - Andrew
    
    Civilization’s evil is the fault of the human race just as Adam and Eve’s imperfections are the fault of God.
Alexandra Grey

I understand the need to prevent an epidemic but the method is unacceptable. There is no excuse for not putting the animals down in a humane fashion. Burying anyone or anything alive is cruel and fucked up. The only reason its being done this way is to save the few seconds it would take to kill the pigs before burying them.
Alexandra Grey

I understand the need to prevent an epidemic but the method is unacceptable. There is no excuse for not putting the animals down in a humane fashion. Burying anyone or anything alive is cruel and fucked up. The only reason its being done this way is to save the few seconds it would take to kill the pigs before burying them.
Konkolli

I’ll bet the fuel for the bull dozer cost about twice as much as cyanide or carbon monoxide would have.This is just about the most awful video I think I have ever witnessed in my life. I cannot believe these workers lack of empathy for the suffering of another living being. They disturb me. They certainly did not have to slaughter these animals so atrociously. I think they are just horrible. I’m so sorry for the whole situation,I’ll have this burned in my brain haunting me for the rest of theday or maybe forever. I Hope this is stopped also.
Konkolli

I feel that money may not have been the explanation for the deliberately malicious tortured end of the infected animals.how much money do you think it cost in fuel to tediously try to shove these hogs into the container? It was as if it was a sport. I know for a fact pigs can be led wherever without much coaxing. The use of the heavy equipment was inefficient and I’m sure the gas that was wasted while the operator was having maneuvre practice was not cheaper than the gas to euthanize these suddenly expendable and now unprofitable livestock. I’m so disturbed, . . I can’t even make any sense. Yes I know these animals DID have to be destroyed, but why so cruelly?
Konkolli

I feel that money may not have been the explanation for the deliberately malicious tortured end of the infected animals.how much money do you think it cost in fuel to tediously try to shove these hogs into the container? It was as if it was a sport. I know for a fact pigs can be led wherever without much coaxing. The use of the heavy equipment was inefficient and I’m sure the gas that was wasted while the operator was having maneuvre practice was not cheaper than the gas to euthanize these suddenly expendable and now unprofitable livestock. I’m so disturbed, . . I can’t even make any sense. Yes I know these animals DID have to be destroyed, but why so cruelly?
Sirsnarfalot

fucking par for the course for Korea
Sirsnarfalot

fucking par for the course for Korea
- Tuna Ghost
  
  If you’re ever in the country, stay the fuck out of the zoos. Its absolutely heart-breaking
Konkolli

After reading your reply to Ken I realized something you may have overlooked. . . The actual video. Did you actually watch it all the way through. I hope not. I wish I hadn’t. I see where your reply was eyeopening for me when it comes to the way gaddafi has become an enemy#1 according to the media and Obama. I was very suspicious about the intentions of the UN and the presidents swift decision to go protect the democratic way of life.or whatever human injustices were going on in someone elses country. I don’t know much about politics (obviously I’m sure) but all I could think was what do they have over there that Obama wants. Therehad to be some kind of diversion going on here. Thank you for bringing some light on that for me. But when it comes to the obscene way they went about destroying those infected pigs I truly believe that money was not the issue. But perhaps an excuse to show the world how a pig can truly make man unclean and impure by touching or eating pork. more like pure EVIL. It really was not the way I ever would expect a human being to treat another living animal.Beyond cruel. And absolutely not necessary to go about it in that way. not to mention the heavy machinery that tediously and wasting gas ,prolonging the sheer torture of these creatures. A fall off a cliff or even a drowning is still a thousand times more humane than what these unsympathetic workers pulled. I really was heartbreaking. It was as if they were blaming the pigs for causing the loss of profit.well I guess some people really take their business failures to heart.(as if they have one) sorry for rambling also. just upset.
Konkolli

Are you still involved with fighting against these so called “farmers” ? I’m curious for more info on how one would go about preventing these kind of crimes against humanity or humaneness. And by the way . Way to go!! I’m glad someone is actually proactive about this poisoning of humankind.
http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken

“A for-profit corporation is bound by law to maxmize profits for their shareholders and managers, regardless of its impact on society, environment, et cetera”

And who provides that profit?

People who want them to have it. Money isn’t evil. Assuming you aren’t a thief or call yourself a government, ie: you didn’t steal it, then you earned that wealth by producing something of value. It doesn’t just fall from the sky by doing evil things. It’s not some useless, wasteful concept that exists solely to oppress poor people and animals. By using currency you create an ecosystem that most effectively utilizes the collective resources of our world according to the collective wants and needs of the economic actors. The more value you bring to the world then the more say you have in how the worlds resources should be utilized. Of course thieves and thugs distort this and cause global problems that make it hard to analyze the real cause of our symptoms, but blaming things like “these people want to make PROFIT!” is down-right ignorant. What do you suggest? That people don’t have incentive to profit? You do realize that when your incentive is to profit (whether you put more value on being nice to pigs or on efficiency is personal, and in reality everything has SOME value to it that is calculated into what you do) then you are working to utilize our limited, finite resources in the best way possible and bring as much value to the people you interact with as you can, right?

You should start with reading about the broken window fallacy. Then read about how money works and why it exists. A GREAT staring point is a book by Murray Rothbard called “Case Against the Fed”. It’s a small book no bigger than most short stories and the first few chapters are all you really need to read about monetary theory. A great topic in general to study is Praxeology; it’s the study of human interaction and incentives. All people work on incentives and risk / reward; it’s a law of economics that you can’t avoid any more than you can avoid laws of physics (unless someone really does invent a perpetual energy source and learns alchemy).

It will seriously help you to develop a better understanding of how these things work and why people do the things they do so that you can more effectively produce a solution, instead of ranting on some webforum about EVIL PROFITZ and such. You’re dead on about imperialism and statists being one of the biggest banes of mankind, but you can’t blame the problems they create on other things and ignore possible solutions to THAT problem.
Bestie Malone

I really hate when people try to justify killing an animal because it is old or has a disease. You wouldn’t kill your friend because he has a disease. You wouldn’t have your grandma put down because she’s so old she’s nearly blind.

This is the same thing, but on a much more disgusting level. If you’re going to needlessly kill millions of pigs at least do it in a relatively humane way. Put yourself in their position. How would you like to be crammed into a hole with a bunch of people you barely know and slowly dying from a combination of being crushed and suffocating? Most people would be terrified of being put in that situation, so why put other living creatures in that situation? I don’t understand how people can treat animals so inhumanely without thinking about if they were in that situation.

I’m not even a vegetarian, but I find the majority of the meat industry disgusting in the way they treat their animals.
Bestie Malone

I really hate when people try to justify killing an animal because it is old or has a disease. You wouldn’t kill your friend because he has a disease. You wouldn’t have your grandma put down because she’s so old she’s nearly blind.

This is the same thing, but on a much more disgusting level. If you’re going to needlessly kill millions of pigs at least do it in a relatively humane way. Put yourself in their position. How would you like to be crammed into a hole with a bunch of people you barely know and slowly dying from a combination of being crushed and suffocating? Most people would be terrified of being put in that situation, so why put other living creatures in that situation? I don’t understand how people can treat animals so inhumanely without thinking about if they were in that situation.

I’m not even a vegetarian, but I find the majority of the meat industry disgusting in the way they treat their animals.
Voidthought

I’m not trying to gain a better understand of how this insane system works, I know the basics of the monetary system. There is a new form of slavery and it is economic and it is manufactured. So if your argument is solely on the basis of what’s right for economic law and profit then you may have a deep form of neurosis! I dont see this system working nor has it ever worked on the basis of competition or profit based “incentive”. The reason we have so many mental aberrations is because of this deranged form of thinking we have about how we are suppose to interact with the world!! The problem lies in economics and if you dont see the proof, drive to a poor part of your city and start talking to people! There is a stratification in this country and it isn’t as simply is telling poor or bum people to get up off their ass and try to do something about themselves. The system IS DESIGNED for bums and poor people, how can you not see this?? The only way our current money-market, economic system could benefit everyone is if wealth was evenly distributed. The reason this is such a condemned ideology(socialism) is because the way people’s minds are fixed about how people are and that is the way that the elitist stay in power!!!!! DUH! WINNING! In Indian tribes, every member of the tribe would have to benefit the community but they were all valued as individuals; everyone had a say in the matters at hand. And that is the very construct of a democratic society, not a socialist one. We are on the road we are on because of the way the system is currently operating, which is in the interest of the elite. This idea of profit you have is so far gone and frankly backwards and yet we have the nerve to call ourselves enlightened and intelligent. And you said something about corporations providing a service? I am pretty sure that it is the people performing or setting up the service, which happen to be economically well below the wealthy “big wigs”, that are providing the service, therefore the CEOs NEVER have produced anything. You may say well its their fault for not thinking of that idea… and if that’s the case then damn we really are lost aren’t we? Perhaps we need to step back from rationalism and take a hint from our spiritual side, our innerworld… that is if you still possess one. We are so spiritually deprived that we have seen an influx of eastern and primitive traditions seeping into our way of life because people can’t seem to find any ACTUAL spirituality. The material world is not all there is and to be honest not only is it devoid of long lasting meaning, it seems like that’s all people care about. The people of this earth have been transformed from producers to consumers, where you are measured by the amount of wealth you have acquired, how ruthlessly you can get to a position of power and all the like. I value something much more eternal, much more useful in life and that is the internal realm of man. The inner world where you develop as a sentient being to become a better people and by the end of it all, will have loved every moment. If your world is that of profit, competition and dominance over other things then you will never find a truly happy place, but a manufactured one of your own creation and you will destroy other forms of life in the process. If you haven’t noticed our blight on this planet is increasingly becoming unstable because we have maliciously abused ourselves, other Earthlings and the planet itself trying to selfishly find some truth in our existence. I believe we already have found this but have lost it in our ignorance of our ancestors. I’m sure if we were to ask our ancestors for advice, they would advise us to love and not give us insider trading tips….

In closing, we need a new system to interact with the world and capitalism, domineering and competition(etc.) are all catalysts for malignant behavior.
Voidthought

If you look at the way these pigs and other animals are being processed for food in our meat-loving culture you would see the neglect for clean environments for these animals. If a nation harvests billions of land animals a year, imagine the excrement those land animals produce AND in such a concentrated area… you can only imagine the results of this.
http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken

“The only way our current money-market, economic system could benefit everyone is if wealth was evenly distributed.”

+1 internet point for ignoring historical precedent.

After that: tldnr.
Voidthought

Ignoring historical precedent.. I was using that to justify that our way of dealing with this planet and our species is highly inefficient and effectively destructive and wasteful. Thanks for arguing your point, I always enjoy a good debate… but I’m always right so… too bad for you. =)
Incredulous

No, just civilization.
Incredulous

No, just civilization.
Incredulous

Actually, many of the workers reported having psychological breakdowns and nightmares. Hearing the screams forever in their sleep.
Incredulous

Actually, many of the workers reported having psychological breakdowns and nightmares. Hearing the screams forever in their sleep.
Incredulous

Evil doesn’t exist. And know that WE aren’t. Civilization created the institutions in which such circumstances arise. Humanity is locking itself inside its own prison.
Burn the cities.
Cut the power.
Some day, we’ll be free.
To be free as our ancestors were long, long ago.
Andrew

Civilization’s evil is the fault of the human race just as Adam and Eve’s imperfections are the fault of God.
http://twitter.com/xrazorwirex Ken

You really didn’t debate anything, just wrote some nonsensical crap that you just admitted has no real basis in reality and then made a bunch of more extravagant claims. Kinda disappointing, but I guess I shouldn’t expect much more than that from someone named ‘void thought’. You didn’t even reference a single point I made; it’s like you have a massive rant from a failed college course that you copypasta onto websites for kicks…

That’s not how you argue your case dude; you gotta make a point and then justify it, not just claim victory and then proceed to preach to the ignorant masses who are all so enthralled by your profundity.

It also would really help your case to use paragraphs…
Tuna Ghost

That doesn’t make for much of an explanation to me, being as how if you were truly motivated by profits then you would do everything in your power to prevent having to literally waste 3 million pigs… that’s a lot of money being thrown away and sanitation is a meager price comparatively speaking.

You’d think that, but Korean farmers get huge subsidies from the goverment. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the farmers forced to terminate their livestock are recompensated.

This whole Hoof and Mouth bullshit is getting on my nerves, this live burial thing has happened before in the year and a half since I’ve bee here. Festivals are closed because people are worried cars make carry the disease into new towns and shit like that, it’s a huge goddam hassle.
Tuna Ghost

well, its the cheapest way to both terminate the pigs and keep the carcasses from spreading the disease. Horrible, but as cost effective as wasting tons and tons of product can be.
Tuna Ghost

If you’re ever in the country, stay the fuck out of the zoos. Its absolutely heart-breaking
minium

not cool at all
minium

not cool at all
CrystalRaye

Why the FUCK aren’t they shooting them first and putting them down humanely? SK needs to come down off their “holy-than-thou” pedastal when they allow shit like this to go on in their country.
CrystalRaye

Why the FUCK aren’t they shooting them first and putting them down humanely? SK needs to come down off their “holy-than-thou” pedastal when they allow shit like this to go on in their country.
CrystalRaye

No, we know it. Big businesses just don’t care.
Exarach

Its like a fucking pig holocaust. That is wrong
Exarach

Its like a fucking pig holocaust. That is wrong
Navysealteam7

Ken = Moron
Rockwhatugot

I’m watching this video at work, in horror already. Didnt think I could feel any worse for these poor pigs until I paused it so my computer could catch up. 3:17 and I believe my world just changed.