Religion May Become Extinct In Nine Nations

chrchNot to imply a causal relationship, but the nine countries pinpointed to become religion-free are among the healthiest, happiest, and most prosperous in the world — shouldn’t God be giving them a dose of wrath as comeuppance? BBC News reports:

A study using census data from nine countries shows that religion there is set for extinction, say researchers. The result, reported at the American Physical Society meeting in Dallas, US, indicates that religion will all but die out altogether in those countries.

The team took census data stretching back as far as a century from countries in which the census queried religious affiliation: Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland.

The team’s mathematical model attempts to account for the interplay between the number of religious respondents and the social motives behind being one.

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214 Comments on "Religion May Become Extinct In Nine Nations"

  1. Hooray!

  2. JoiquimCouteau | Mar 22, 2011 at 6:27 pm |

    Hooray!

  3. Awesome

  4. Awesome

  5. Apparently some people know there is no moral standard.

  6. Apparently some people know there is no moral standard.

  7. Boooo

  8. Boooo

  9. I’ll bet it doesn’t.

  10. I’ll bet it doesn’t.

    • Communism is a religion. Socialism is a religion. Environmentalism is a religion. Democracy, Capitalism, Protectionism, Free Trade, Racism, Anti-Racism, The Big Bang. Etc. All are beliefs which propagate through groups. All requite adherents to take most of their tenents on faith, as no one person can test every assumption rigorously. At best, we test a few and assume the rest are correct. Most people defend these beliefs irrationally in the face of evidence to the contrary. Most people keep their unorthodox doubts concealed in order to get along with larger groups of believers.

      “Religion” isn’t dying out. It’s fragmenting, and the fragments overlap. We all subscribe to multiple religions every day.  The belief in God/Gods is just one of these beliefs that addresses a specific set of human spiritual needs. Some of the organizations that provide these answers may fall, but the needs (and those that service them) will live on. Because there are limits to what science (which has it’s own religious dogmas) can explain.

  11. Anonymous | Mar 22, 2011 at 11:42 pm |

    I’m fairly surprised to see Australia on the list. Sure religion isn’t all that significant down here culturally but it’s still everywhere. Immigrants from Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist countries seem to be quite religious. Hell a young coworker of mine was a bat-shit christian that would put a lot of yanks to shame. He wouldn’t let himself watch ‘Heroes’ because of a perceived Satanic message.

  12. dumbsaint | Mar 22, 2011 at 7:42 pm |

    I’m fairly surprised to see Australia on the list. Sure religion isn’t all that significant down here culturally but it’s still everywhere. Immigrants from Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist countries seem to be quite religious. Hell a young coworker of mine was a bat-shit christian that would put a lot of yanks to shame. He wouldn’t let himself watch ‘Heroes’ because of a perceived Satanic message.

    • It’s a matter of percentages. Below a certain threshold, I suppose it could be said that there aren’t enough religious people to declare that a country is primarily religious.

  13. grooveboss | Mar 22, 2011 at 11:57 pm |

    Its extinct until they start to worship me. Their new bullshit provider !!!

  14. grooveboss | Mar 22, 2011 at 7:57 pm |

    Its extinct until they start to worship me. Their new bullshit provider !!!

  15. Heathen Ledger | Mar 23, 2011 at 12:58 am |

    “God is dead.” – Nietzsche
    “Nietzsche is dead.” – God

  16. Heathen Ledger | Mar 22, 2011 at 8:58 pm |

    “God is dead.” – Nietzsche
    “Nietzsche is dead.” – God

    • Correction: Nietzsche is more alive than God is. They both exist today only as ideas, but there’s much greater reason to believe Nietzsche actually did physically exist at one time.

      • Joanarbil | Mar 31, 2011 at 11:25 pm |

        so true

      • Godsfriend | Apr 2, 2011 at 5:33 pm |

        Correction: For man to define God is to dwarf the true idea of God itself . . . Basic Ideas of Occult Wisdom . . . Michael the “man” has his physical reality to experience . . . judge and ponder . . . he will grow old and die doing so because he believes in time . . The New Man knows he “projects” this reality you refer to as “physical” . . . . creating it from the “inside” to the “outside” . . . and experiences it in the “now” . . . no place called future . . . no place called “past” . . only “now” . . . no time/ illusion . . . I love God . . I love Nietzsche . . . I love . ……. I am . . . . . now

    • justagirl | Mar 23, 2011 at 3:09 pm |

      so cometh the Superman.

      <3

    • except god never said Nietzsche is dead, because god doesn’t exist.

      • Godsfriend | Apr 2, 2011 at 8:36 pm |

        Doesn’t exist for you “Mattman” . . . . you prefer to cling to the opinion you have , to make everything as easy as possible for yourself. . Enjoy ‘time’ Mattman . . . God doesn’t know ‘time’ . . . and God hasn’t been introduced to Mattman so God doesn’t know Mattman . . . perfection . . . perfection . . love is . . I am . . now . . . I am eternal . . . I am in joy . . .

    • “Heathen Ledger is dead”– laws of nature, time, whatever … ?
      just sayin’ champ
      😉

  17. DeepCough | Mar 23, 2011 at 3:08 am |

    Agh. As always, the U.S. is behind the curve.

  18. DeepCough | Mar 22, 2011 at 11:08 pm |

    Agh. As always, the U.S. is behind the curve.

  19. Happiest countries?

    With the exception of Austrailia and the Netherlands, all of those countries are in the top 35 for suicide. Finland is 14th. That doesn’t sound happy to me.

  20. Happiest countries?

    With the exception of Austrailia and the Netherlands, all of those countries are in the top 35 for suicide. Finland is 14th. That doesn’t sound happy to me.

    • Also from the article
      “The team then applied their nonlinear dynamics model, adjusting parameters for the relative social and utilitarian merits of membership of the “non-religious” category.”

      If that isn’t another way of saying “pulling numbers out of our asses to fit the message we want to present,” I don’t know what is.

      • That’s why they compared the predictions of the model to actual observed religious observance statistical data from the countries under study. You do understand how that makes a big difference for the credibility of the model, right?

    • So … out of the top 35 suicide countries, 7 of them are losing their religion? And this means that non-religious countries are unhappy? What about the other 28 out of the top 35?

      • I have no idea what role religion plays in suicide rate, except perhaps being a deterrant. Thats not really the point I was attempting to make.

        Rather the point is that it’s odd to point to countries with an extremely high suicide rate and call them “the happiest in the world.” Happy people typically don’t off themselves.

        • How on Earth is religion a deterrent to suicide? It tells you that a better life awaits you after this one. If anything, religion should encourage suicide.

          • Good question, like I said, I have no idea, although there are several hyper-religious countries very low on the list.

            Anyway, another good question would be “Why you feel the need to derail my point?”

          • “on almost every measure of societal health, the least religious countries are
            better off than the most religious. Countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the
            Netherlands—which are the most atheistic societies on earth—consistently rate better than religious nations on measures like life expectancy, infant mortality, crime, literacy,
            GDP, child welfare, economic equality, economic competitiveness, gender equality,
            health care, investments in education, rates of university enrollment, internet access,
            environmental protection, lack of corruption, political stability, and charity to poorer
            nations, etc.”

            The Moral Landscape – Sam Harris

          • shhh– don’t let facts interfere with his delusion …

            or her– don’t mean to be sexist.

          • supervexi | Mar 23, 2011 at 4:40 am |

            “It tells you that a better life awaits you after this one. If anything, religion should encourage suicide.”

            That’s using a rather broad brush to paint the teachings of any given religion. Besides being patently in many cases, it is a misstatement for others. Lets assume a religion that does actually promise a better life-after. Most of these (if not all) include a negation of this promise for those who commit suicide. Several even promise a worse life-after as punishment for the act.

            And I would ask on what basis do you make the statement that “we know that people in Haiti are living absolutely miserable lives”? Really? Because they have a lower average standard of living than developed nations? Because they recently had a horrible natural disaster? This automatically means they are all miserable? Pretty presumptuous statement, with absolutely zero evidence presented to back it up.

    • By the way, the country which scores the lowest on suicide rates is Haiti, and yet we know that people in Haiti are living absolutely miserable lives. Egypt is also one of the best-performing countries on this metric, and they were so unhappy there that they recently overthrew their government. Perhaps there is something wrong with this entire method of determining how happy a society is.

      • Hey, to be fair, in ’09 Haitians rated themselves on Happiness. They rated in at #42, higher than any of these “Happiest” countries, although Netherlands clocked in at #43.

        With a very low suicide rate and rating themselves in the top 50 for happiness, obviously The Netherlands is doing something right.

      • grooveboss | Mar 23, 2011 at 1:24 am |

        suicide is the ultimate right.

    • In some countries, suicide is a crime. Therefore, a person would forfeit all of their assets to the state, or a good portion. If the person had kids, or wanted to leave something to someone, then they could not. That and the extra stigma attached to families with a suicide. Freer countries don’t necessarily have the same social mores and legal statutes that would make suicide even more painful.

  21. Correction: Nietzsche is more alive than God is. They both exist today only as ideas, but there’s much greater reason to believe Nietzsche actually did physically exist at one time.

  22. Also from the article
    “The team then applied their nonlinear dynamics model, adjusting parameters for the relative social and utilitarian merits of membership of the “non-religious” category.”

    If that isn’t another way of saying “pulling numbers out of our asses to fit the message we want to present,” I don’t know what is.

  23. So … out of the top 35 suicide countries, 7 of them are losing their religion? And this means that non-religious countries are unhappy? What about the other 28 out of the top 35?

  24. It’s a matter of percentages. Below a certain threshold, I suppose it could be said that there aren’t enough religious people to declare that a country is primarily religious.

  25. By the way, the country which scores the lowest on suicide rates is Haiti, and yet we know that people in Haiti are living absolutely miserable lives. Egypt is also one of the best-performing countries on this metric, and they were so unhappy there that they recently overthrew their government. Perhaps there is something wrong with this entire method of determining how happy a society is.

  26. I have no idea what role religion plays in suicide rate, except perhaps being a deterrant. Thats not really the point I was attempting to make.

    Rather the point is that it’s odd to point to countries with an extremely high suicide rate and call them “the happiest in the world.” Happy people typically don’t off themselves.

  27. Just came up with a new list of countries to relocate to 😀

  28. Just came up with a new list of countries to relocate to 😀

  29. That’s why they compared the predictions of the model to actual observed religious observance statistical data from the countries under study. You do understand how that makes a big difference for the credibility of the model, right?

  30. That’s why they compared the predictions of the model to actual observed religious observance statistical data from the countries under study. You do understand how that makes a big difference for the credibility of the model, right?

  31. Just came up with a new list of countries to relocate to 😀

    • i’m still thinking either Canada or Costa Rica– although if their economy stabilizes after telling the UK to stuff their $4Bn demand, i’d head there– the wimmin are hawt!

  32. Stripedrabbit | Mar 23, 2011 at 4:50 am |

    What did they use as their definition of “happier”?

  33. How on Earth is religion a deterrent to suicide? It tells you that a better life awaits you after this one. If anything, religion should encourage suicide.

  34. How on Earth is religion a deterrent to suicide? It tells you that a better life awaits you after this one. If anything, religion should encourage suicide.

  35. Stripedrabbit | Mar 23, 2011 at 12:50 am |

    What did they use as their definition of “happier”?

  36. Hey, to be fair, in ’09 Haitians rated themselves on Happiness. They rated in at #42, higher than any of these “Happiest” countries, although Netherlands clocked in at #43.

    With a very low suicide rate and rating themselves in the top 50 for happiness, obviously The Netherlands is doing something right.

  37. Good question, like I said, I have no idea, although there are several hyper-religious countries very low on the list.

    Anyway, another good question would be “Why you feel the need to derail my point?”

  38. grooveboss | Mar 23, 2011 at 5:23 am |

    Religion is sports,politics, labor, science, and the law everything else is mysticism and can’t be contained, controlled or explained. yet? Church was the way people were entertained back when there was no global electronic multimedia network. So people would break out of the routine of primitive life by hearing tales of a mystical being manipulating his grand creation that well might exist (in another more complex form) and socializing to study god and hopefully help each other adhere to he philosophy each sect brings . But these days people can revere and worship god by enjoying their lives and making their lives and the lives of others better by being creative, friendly, caring and free (like the sun card in the TAROT). There should be an organized central forum in town that people can attend from time to time just to make sure people come in contact and know each other, which is what church is except for the infection of these hypnotic ideas of a being that takes care of us from behind the curtains. What I get from religions are the deadly sins and the heavenly virtues either then that its just really effective literature and stage shows and last but not least mass hypnotism. Amen!

  39. grooveboss | Mar 23, 2011 at 5:23 am |

    Religion is sports,politics, labor, science, and the law everything else is mysticism and can’t be contained, controlled or explained. yet? Church was the way people were entertained back when there was no global electronic multimedia network. So people would break out of the routine of primitive life by hearing tales of a mystical being manipulating his grand creation that well might exist (in another more complex form) and socializing to study god and hopefully help each other adhere to he philosophy each sect brings . But these days people can revere and worship god by enjoying their lives and making their lives and the lives of others better by being creative, friendly, caring and free (like the sun card in the TAROT). There should be an organized central forum in town that people can attend from time to time just to make sure people come in contact and know each other, which is what church is except for the infection of these hypnotic ideas of a being that takes care of us from behind the curtains. What I get from religions are the deadly sins and the heavenly virtues either then that its just really effective literature and stage shows and last but not least mass hypnotism. Amen!

  40. grooveboss | Mar 23, 2011 at 1:23 am |

    Religion is sports,politics, labor, science, and the law everything else is mysticism and can’t be contained, controlled or explained. yet? Church was the way people were entertained back when there was no global electronic multimedia network. So people would break out of the routine of primitive life by hearing tales of a mystical being manipulating his grand creation that well might exist (in another more complex form) and socializing to study god and hopefully help each other adhere to he philosophy each sect brings . But these days people can revere and worship god by enjoying their lives and making their lives and the lives of others better by being creative, friendly, caring and free (like the sun card in the TAROT). There should be an organized central forum in town that people can attend from time to time just to make sure people come in contact and know each other, which is what church is except for the infection of these hypnotic ideas of a being that takes care of us from behind the curtains. What I get from religions are the deadly sins and the heavenly virtues either then that its just really effective literature and stage shows and last but not least mass hypnotism. Amen!

  41. grooveboss | Mar 23, 2011 at 5:24 am |

    suicide is the ultimate right.

  42. grooveboss | Mar 23, 2011 at 5:24 am |

    suicide is the ultimate right.

  43. Anonymous | Mar 23, 2011 at 6:28 am |

    in austria you have to pay taxes to the (catholic) church, so a lot of people quit the church. this (and lack of interest) was my main reason to change my official status to “without religious affiliation”: why pay for something i don’t care about?
    i think without the monetary factor a lot of people would simply not care what an official document says about their religious beliefs, with the exeption of religious holidays of course. the “drop-out rate” raises every year, mostly after a new scandal about sexual abuse in the church or its schools of which there is no shortage of.

  44. 99prozent | Mar 23, 2011 at 2:28 am |

    in austria you have to pay taxes to the (catholic) church, so a lot of people quit the church. this (and lack of interest) was my main reason to change my official status to “without religious affiliation”: why pay for something i don’t care about?
    i think without the monetary factor a lot of people would simply not care what an official document says about their religious beliefs, with the exeption of religious holidays of course. the “drop-out rate” raises every year, mostly after a new scandal about sexual abuse in the church or its schools of which there is no shortage of.

  45. Hey, don’t forget that the biblical god committed suicide for your sins. Suicide by cop (roman centurion).

  46. Hey, don’t forget that the biblical god committed suicide for your sins. Suicide by cop (roman centurion).

    • Biblical son of a fictional deity.

      It kills me that religious people can’t ever get that fact straight, it seems.

      I mean, by worshiping Jesus instead of ‘God’, wouldn’t that be considered worshiping a false idol or something along those lines?

      I don’t really know, nor do I really care; it’s just that it’s always confused me so.

      • Just to clarify (or possibly confuse further) – when Christinans talk about God, they often refer to the three “faces”; that’s where all that “the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit”-talk comes in. My interpretation is that they should all be seen as three sides to the same coin (or pyramid, I guess) but essentially the same being. Kind of nifty device since it lets you get around both the polytheistic vibes and the false idol stuff. Then again, there’s definitiely a dissonace when you’re referring to Jesus as the son of God but I guess organized religion never has been big on continuity.

  47. Anonymous | Mar 23, 2011 at 8:40 am |

    “It tells you that a better life awaits you after this one. If anything, religion should encourage suicide.”

    That’s using a rather broad brush to paint the teachings of any given religion. Besides being patently in many cases, it is a misstatement for others. Lets assume a religion that does actually promise a better life-after. Most of these (if not all) include a negation of this promise for those who commit suicide. Several even promise a worse life-after as punishment for the act.

    And I would ask on what basis do you make the statement that “we know that people in Haiti are living absolutely miserable lives”? Really? Because they have a lower average standard of living than developed nations? Because they recently had a horrible natural disaster? This automatically means they are all miserable? Pretty presumptuous statement, with absolutely zero evidence presented to back it up.

  48. Anonymous | Mar 23, 2011 at 9:25 am |

    I think that the real issue here is more of a correction in statistics based on prevailing notions of what is socially acceptable. There may be a real decline in people who honestly and personally believe in some given faith-system, but I think it is more likely that the apathetic masses who don’t really believe anything no longer feel compelled to pretend that they do.

    People who honestly and personally believe in the absence of god have rarely (especially in the past two-hundred years across the developed world) not been able to voice their dissent, one way or another.

    The real decline, I believe, is of people who only ever went to church, or synagogue, or temple, or whatever, simply because their parents did (and they only because their parents did, and so on, ad nauseum).

  49. supervexi | Mar 23, 2011 at 5:25 am |

    I think that the real issue here is more of a correction in statistics based on prevailing notions of what is socially acceptable. There may be a real decline in people who honestly and personally believe in some given faith-system, but I think it is more likely that the apathetic masses who don’t really believe anything no longer feel compelled to pretend that they do.

    People who honestly and personally believe in the absence of god have rarely (especially in the past two-hundred years across the developed world) not been able to voice their dissent, one way or another.

    The real decline, I believe, is of people who only ever went to church, or synagogue, or temple, or whatever, simply because their parents did (and they only because their parents did, and so on, ad nauseum).

    • Enigman69 | Aug 3, 2011 at 6:26 am |

      Here’s the thing. The anti-religionists, atheists, hate any religion. But they can’t prove that God does not exist so they have to belittle God to the rest of us. And when that fails, they then belittle us. So just what is it about God that scares the hell out of them anyway?

  50. samson147 | Mar 23, 2011 at 11:39 am |

    There is always a “religion” in practice no matter where you are in the world. Just because a group of people inside certain boundaries do not go to a building to worship a certain deity does not mean that they do not have a belief inside them of a higher power. I would bet in these same countries that these people celebrate Christmas, Easter, and other holidays that are related to religion. No matter how much you wish that there were parts of the world that were religion free, it isn’t going to happen. Lack of “religion” is not the same as atheism.

  51. samson147 | Mar 23, 2011 at 7:39 am |

    There is always a “religion” in practice no matter where you are in the world. Just because a group of people inside certain boundaries do not go to a building to worship a certain deity does not mean that they do not have a belief inside them of a higher power. I would bet in these same countries that these people celebrate Christmas, Easter, and other holidays that are related to religion. No matter how much you wish that there were parts of the world that were religion free, it isn’t going to happen. Lack of “religion” is not the same as atheism.

    • Jesusstolemyhubcaps | Mar 23, 2011 at 4:10 pm |

      I don’t know about the other countries but I loved in both Australia and New Zealand and they don’t celebrate Christmas. They celebrate “Boxing Day” which has nothing to do with Jesus dying for anyones sins or being resurrected three days later. Weird how that reminds me of the suns procession at that time of year…what a coinky dink!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_day

      • Robot Alien | Mar 28, 2011 at 10:37 pm |

        I think someone is having you on…….hahaha

      • Antoniomorales915 | Mar 30, 2011 at 8:52 pm |

        australia and new zealand do celebrate christmas
        christmas is to celebrate Jesus birth not to celebrate him dying for our sins

        • Wiicamper | Apr 3, 2011 at 11:00 pm |

          And here I thought christmas was to celebrate materialism. I dont know many people anymore that celebrate some imaginary timeless sky man who fathered himself to die to absolve sin that was placed on man by him.

          Everyone I know celebrates christmas by celebrating friends and family, not Jesus

          • isn’t christmas just a revisionism of pagan solstice celebrations? wasn’t historical jesus born in April– or was it May?
            maybe November … ?
            then there’s the whole vernal equinox Eostre thingy …
            and Zoroaster/ Mithra parallels, no?
            read your Joseph Campbell peoples.
            might as well invest yourself in the Star Wars mythos.

    • There doesn’t have to be any correlation between “active” spirituality/religion and the celebration of religious holidays. Our religious history has been well enough integrated into our culture and values to survive without any actual belief in any kind of deity. I’ll bet that a lot of people who celebrate Christmas religiously (pun most def intended) could care less about the Jesus side of it. I for one enjoy Christmas and even go to mass every year – that doesn’t make me less of an atheist, it just means I’m interested in my own history and happen to like nice stories about camels, men in beards and babies being born. Celebrating traditional holidays does not mean you actually believe in a higher power.

  52. Woohoo, yes, once religion goes away, I can worship Vishnu without anybody hasslin’ me.

  53. Woohoo, yes, once religion goes away, I can worship Vishnu without anybody hasslin’ me.

    • supervexi | Mar 23, 2011 at 10:30 pm |

      Because, of course, there isn’t one of the largest religions in the world that worship vishnu and ganesha. Oh wait, I forgot. Yes there is.

  54. Yeah, they’re doing pot, and lots of it. Hint hint hint.

  55. What we’re talking about is organized religion of course, you could argue there is no organized religion among, say, the Australian aborigines, yet they clearly have an understanding along those lines. It’s so integrated into their life, they don’t think of it as such, and that’s how the world used to be way back.

    What we’re seeing now is the pending end, across the world, of the organized religions that replaced in most places, the aboriginal, ancestral, traditional ways of the people before this new religion came in. Which is why it is so funny for Xians in Uhmurkah to protest the influx of Islam, due to their fears of Islam spreading and wiping out Xianity…when Xianity did the same thing to these European descendants a few centuries back. Serves ’em right. Which is why a lot of Xians are losing their minds right now. They practice a religion that they have zero connection with, that their ancestors were forced to accept, that doesn’t refer to the instruction guide any more and now we have in Uhmurkah a continuation toward Theocracy where these Xians have no problem forcing their religion on others and persecuting others for their beliefs, when the only reason there are so many of these Xians running around like cockatrices with their heads cut off in Uhmurkah is their ancestors came to the “New World” to escape religious persecution and intolerance in Europe. The Puritans didn’t apparently come to Uhmurkah to escape persecution so much as they were upset they weren’t the ones doing the persecuting themselves. Which is all proof that *G*O*D* loves irony and has the kind of sense of humor like that guy, y’know…the one in fifth grade who was the class clown and ate his own boogers and who would do anything you ask him to who is now in law enforcement…yeah, him.

    Having your own special, unique religion was all well and good when you were a small village or a city-state or a nation of a limited number of people as your ways and your gods were your own specific, ethnic, narrow interpretation of the unseen…but having a unique, opaque view of gods and symbols (same thing, essentially) and everything else that goes into trying to make sense of what science can’t make sense of in this day and age is patently silly and will soon be extinct.

    Once we all get to the point where we understand we are humans and those similarities outweigh the differences like race, gender and whether you say toe-may-to or tah-may-ter. Then we can start seeing much clearer what the human experience is all about and we won’t talk in terms of eastern vs western, good vs evil, Yahweh vs Satan, paper vs plastic, etc etc etc.

    Even today, in an era of globalization, picking and choosing which gods you want to hook your wagon to is like sampling the salad bar at Ruby Tuesday’s. Because chances are whatever religion you are now, it is not the religion of your ancestral people, so it is really of no value to you. It’s like trying to put a nine-volt battery in a vibrator that just takes AA’s…you can’t get no satisfaction.

    And that is why today, Xians who claim to really believe are just holding on to a political/cultural ideology that was grafted on to them while they totally blaspheme the god(s) (since Xianity is polytheistic) they claim to represent by trying to “take the Kingdom of Heaven by force” as Jesus warned us that they would.

    This message was brought to you by Ganesha. Who wants you to worship him. Or not. It’s okay, just have a nice day.

    Fiat lux.

  56. What we’re talking about is organized religion of course, you could argue there is no organized religion among, say, the Australian aborigines, yet they clearly have an understanding along those lines. It’s so integrated into their life, they don’t think of it as such, and that’s how the world used to be way back.

    What we’re seeing now is the pending end, across the world, of the organized religions that replaced in most places, the aboriginal, ancestral, traditional ways of the people before this new religion came in. Which is why it is so funny for Xians in Uhmurkah to protest the influx of Islam, due to their fears of Islam spreading and wiping out Xianity…when Xianity did the same thing to these European descendants a few centuries back. Serves ’em right. Which is why a lot of Xians are losing their minds right now. They practice a religion that they have zero connection with, that their ancestors were forced to accept, that doesn’t refer to the instruction guide any more and now we have in Uhmurkah a continuation toward Theocracy where these Xians have no problem forcing their religion on others and persecuting others for their beliefs, when the only reason there are so many of these Xians running around like cockatrices with their heads cut off in Uhmurkah is their ancestors came to the “New World” to escape religious persecution and intolerance in Europe. The Puritans didn’t apparently come to Uhmurkah to escape persecution so much as they were upset they weren’t the ones doing the persecuting themselves. Which is all proof that *G*O*D* loves irony and has the kind of sense of humor like that guy, y’know…the one in fifth grade who was the class clown and ate his own boogers and who would do anything you ask him to who is now in law enforcement…yeah, him.

    Having your own special, unique religion was all well and good when you were a small village or a city-state or a nation of a limited number of people as your ways and your gods were your own specific, ethnic, narrow interpretation of the unseen…but having a unique, opaque view of gods and symbols (same thing, essentially) and everything else that goes into trying to make sense of what science can’t make sense of in this day and age is patently silly and will soon be extinct.

    Once we all get to the point where we understand we are humans and those similarities outweigh the differences like race, gender and whether you say toe-may-to or tah-may-ter. Then we can start seeing much clearer what the human experience is all about and we won’t talk in terms of eastern vs western, good vs evil, Yahweh vs Satan, paper vs plastic, etc etc etc.

    Even today, in an era of globalization, picking and choosing which gods you want to hook your wagon to is like sampling the salad bar at Ruby Tuesday’s. Because chances are whatever religion you are now, it is not the religion of your ancestral people, so it is really of no value to you. It’s like trying to put a nine-volt battery in a vibrator that just takes AA’s…you can’t get no satisfaction.

    And that is why today, Xians who claim to really believe are just holding on to a political/cultural ideology that was grafted on to them while they totally blaspheme the god(s) (since Xianity is polytheistic) they claim to represent by trying to “take the Kingdom of Heaven by force” as Jesus warned us that they would.

    This message was brought to you by Ganesha. Who wants you to worship him. Or not. It’s okay, just have a nice day.

    Fiat lux.

    • “What we’re seeing now is the pending end, across the world, of the organized religion….”

      You’re extrapolating WAY too much from these nine countries. There are a couple hundred others to look at, and they aren’t all going the same way. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing is another question.

    • Ruby Tuesday’s has a salad bar?

    • Holindahed | May 14, 2011 at 5:26 pm |

      let me guess.. lol.. you’re humanist. 

  57. Wow, there’s a positive sign….

  58. Wow, there’s a positive sign….

  59. justagirl | Mar 23, 2011 at 7:09 pm |

    so cometh the Superman.

    <3

  60. Jesusstolemyhubcaps | Mar 23, 2011 at 8:10 pm |

    I don’t know about the other countries but I loved in both Australia and New Zealand and they don’t celebrate Christmas. They celebrate “Boxing Day” which has nothing to do with Jesus dying for anyones sins or being resurrected three days later. Weird how that reminds me of the suns procession at that time of year…what a coinky dink!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_day

  61. Chauvinist | Mar 23, 2011 at 8:16 pm |

    Amount of BJ’s received monthly, duh. That’s how how I define it!

  62. Strange how the actual article does not infer anything about the well-being of the residents of those countries.

  63. Strange how the actual article does not infer anything about the well-being of the residents of those countries.

  64. Bwmmiller | Mar 23, 2011 at 9:59 pm |

    Look closely now! Christianity growing rapidly on communist China. Goddammit!

  65. Bwmmiller | Mar 23, 2011 at 5:59 pm |

    Look closely now! Christianity growing rapidly on communist China. Goddammit!

  66. Anonymous | Mar 24, 2011 at 2:30 am |

    Because, of course, there isn’t one of the largest religions in the world that worship vishnu and ganesha. Oh wait, I forgot. Yes there is.

  67. NorthernRapture | Mar 24, 2011 at 2:56 am |

    Not true. The religious fanatics of third world nations are being imported to those nine nations ( and others) and they tend to have very large families “because God told them to”. We will be out-bred,just like the peaceful Neanderthals were.

  68. NorthernRapture | Mar 23, 2011 at 10:56 pm |

    Not true. The religious fanatics of third world nations are being imported to those nine nations ( and others) and they tend to have very large families “because God told them to”. We will be out-bred,just like the peaceful Neanderthals were.

  69. Atheists! Suck My Willy!

  70. Soundofthesage | Mar 26, 2011 at 2:21 pm |

    I live in Ireland and have seen no signs recently of religion becoming a thing of the past. With all the death and destruction caused in the name of religion over the last 500 years you would think that people would wise up and accept each other for who they are and not which church they attend. What really makes me laugh though is that both sides of the barricades are the same religion, Christians!! The differences in Catholacism and Protestism is minimal, so is religion the real problem or simply the excuse for violence? Then let us not forget about the cover ups by churchs when the people preaching to us about how to live life are getting away with abusing children!! Times are changing though because even a generation ago if a male member of a family had any doubts about his sexuality he was sent away to join the priesthood. Nowadays though people are more able to accept homosexuality and families no longer have to send them away to hide the dark secret. I think this plays a big part in why Priests are often reveiled as child abusers and nowadays the numbers of people entering the priesthood has dropped dramatically. Anyway even after all this let me just state that organized religion has been the biggest killer in the world’s history!!

  71. Soundofthesage | Mar 26, 2011 at 10:21 am |

    I live in Ireland and have seen no signs recently of religion becoming a thing of the past. With all the death and destruction caused in the name of religion over the last 500 years you would think that people would wise up and accept each other for who they are and not which church they attend. What really makes me laugh though is that both sides of the barricades are the same religion, Christians!! The differences in Catholacism and Protestism is minimal, so is religion the real problem or simply the excuse for violence? Then let us not forget about the cover ups by churchs when the people preaching to us about how to live life are getting away with abusing children!! Times are changing though because even a generation ago if a male member of a family had any doubts about his sexuality he was sent away to join the priesthood. Nowadays though people are more able to accept homosexuality and families no longer have to send them away to hide the dark secret. I think this plays a big part in why Priests are often reveiled as child abusers and nowadays the numbers of people entering the priesthood has dropped dramatically. Anyway even after all this let me just state that organized religion has been the biggest killer in the world’s history!!

  72. Anonymous | Mar 27, 2011 at 3:41 pm |

    Isn’t odd that none of these countries have firebombed civilians lately? Ireland has a history, but back when they were hurling petrol, religion was the excuse. Another good list might be nations that have thrown off rule by corporations, The American colonies did that in 1776 but they didn’t put enough safeguards in place to stop reinfection.
    As for the comments about suicide, I don’t think religion enters into that, people suicide because they are suicidal, but no one seems to know just what that means. Taboo subject I guess.

  73. Anonymous | Mar 27, 2011 at 3:41 pm |

    Isn’t odd that none of these countries have firebombed civilians lately? Ireland has a history, but back when they were hurling petrol, religion was the excuse. Another good list might be nations that have thrown off rule by corporations, The American colonies did that in 1776 but they didn’t put enough safeguards in place to stop reinfection.
    As for the comments about suicide, I don’t think religion enters into that, people suicide because they are suicidal, but no one seems to know just what that means. Taboo subject I guess.

  74. Isn’t odd that none of these countries have firebombed civilians lately? Ireland has a history, but back when they were hurling petrol, religion was the excuse. Another good list might be nations that have thrown off rule by corporations, The American colonies did that in 1776 but they didn’t put enough safeguards in place to stop reinfection.
    As for the comments about suicide, I don’t think religion enters into that, people suicide because they are suicidal, but no one seems to know just what that means. Taboo subject I guess.

  75. grooveboss | Mar 27, 2011 at 3:55 pm |

    I agree that it is taboo and suicide should not be spoken about in the news, but this is disinformation, nothing is true and everything is permitted.

  76. except god never said Nietzsche is dead, because god doesn’t exist.

  77. Robot Alien | Mar 29, 2011 at 2:37 am |

    I think someone is having you on…….hahaha

  78. Antoniomorales915 | Mar 31, 2011 at 12:52 am |

    australia and new zealand do celebrate christmas
    christmas is to celebrate Jesus birth not to celebrate him dying for our sins

  79. Antoniomorales915 | Mar 31, 2011 at 1:07 am |

    Canada 72% Christian
    Australia 64% Christian
    Finland 78% Christian
    Austria 76% Christian
    Ireland 86.6% Christian
    New Zealand 60% Christian
    Switzerland 82% Christian
    extinct yeah right

  80. Antoniomorales915 | Mar 31, 2011 at 1:07 am |

    Canada 72% Christian
    Australia 64% Christian
    Finland 78% Christian
    Austria 76% Christian
    Ireland 86.6% Christian
    New Zealand 60% Christian
    Switzerland 82% Christian
    extinct yeah right

  81. Antoniomorales915 | Mar 31, 2011 at 1:07 am |

    Canada 72% Christian
    Australia 64% Christian
    Finland 78% Christian
    Austria 76% Christian
    Ireland 86.6% Christian
    New Zealand 60% Christian
    Switzerland 82% Christian
    extinct yeah right

  82. Antoniomorales915 | Mar 30, 2011 at 9:07 pm |

    Canada 72% Christian
    Australia 64% Christian
    Finland 78% Christian
    Austria 76% Christian
    Ireland 86.6% Christian
    New Zealand 60% Christian
    Switzerland 82% Christian
    extinct yeah right

  83. odjrsmitty | Mar 31, 2011 at 5:02 pm |

    Now we just need nations, politicians, and money to go extinct.

  84. odjrsmitty | Mar 31, 2011 at 1:02 pm |

    Now we just need nations, politicians, and money to go extinct.

  85. A person would have to know everything there is to know in the universe to be absolutely sure that God doesn’t exist. Since no person has that knowledge, no one can honestly say with certainty that God isn’t real. Hence, atheism is an untenable position and the person who states unequivocally that God isn’t real is believing something he or she cannot prove which isn’t particularly reasonable even though they believe themselves to be the most reasonable of people.

    On the other hand, there are a number of rational, intelligent and valid evidences for the existence of God including cosmological, teleological, and axiological arguments. Check out pleaseconvinceme.com for more information.

  86. “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion.” – Robert M. Pirsig

    Very true.

    Newsblok – feeding headlines from 18 of the best alternative news sources to one simple page. Includes disinfo, abovetopsecret, counterpunch and many more

  87. “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion.” – Robert M. Pirsig

    Very true.

    Newsblok – feeding headlines from 18 of the best alternative news sources to one simple page. Includes disinfo, abovetopsecret, counterpunch and many more

  88. Joanarbil | Apr 1, 2011 at 3:25 am |

    so true

  89. brb new zealand

  90. brb new zealand

  91. Potricio | Apr 1, 2011 at 2:20 pm |

    ÂżIrlanda?. No se lo creen ni ellos. Que tonterĂ­a de noticia.

  92. ÂżIrlanda?. No se lo creen ni ellos. Que tonterĂ­a de noticia.

  93. Biblical son of a fictional deity.

    It kills me that religious people can’t ever get that fact straight, it seems.

    I mean, by worshiping Jesus instead of ‘God’, wouldn’t that be considered worshiping a false idol or something along those lines?

    I don’t really know, nor do I really care; it’s just that it’s always confused me so.

  94. Biblical son of a fictional deity.

    It kills me that religious people can’t ever get that fact straight, it seems.

    I mean, by worshiping Jesus instead of ‘God’, wouldn’t that be considered worshiping a false idol or something along those lines?

    I don’t really know, nor do I really care; it’s just that it’s always confused me so.

  95. BibleBeltAtheist | Apr 1, 2011 at 9:38 pm |

    I have been religion free since I was 13, and am now 62. Problem is, everybody in the USA is exposed to & effected by religious, dogmatic, crap just like side stream tobacco smoke. And just like nicotine addicts, religion has people harnessed to their insidious “habit” like a draft animal with blinders on with it’s nose & mouth in the feed bag gobbling up horse shit.

  96. BibleBeltAtheist | Apr 1, 2011 at 5:38 pm |

    I have been religion free since I was 13, and am now 62. Problem is, everybody in the USA is exposed to & effected by religious, dogmatic, crap just like side stream tobacco smoke. And just like nicotine addicts, religion has people harnessed to their insidious “habit” like a draft animal with blinders on with it’s nose & mouth in the feed bag gobbling up horse shit.

    • Labpup223 | Apr 10, 2011 at 11:49 pm |

      what you don’t understand is that is that God doesn’t want us to be “religious”. He only wants a relationship with us. Jesus/God never set foot in a church and spent his life helping those who were dying, poor, training others to help the hurting souls of this earth. I am sad that you have such a convoluted image of Jesus/God. You obviously never have understood who God really is. Hopefully you will decide to seek who God is and not what others have told you he is, because you obviously haven’t done this on your own.

  97. Just to clarify (or possibly confuse further) – when Christinans talk about God, they often refer to the three “faces”; that’s where all that “the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit”-talk comes in. My interpretation is that they should all be seen as three sides to the same coin (or pyramid, I guess) but essentially the same being. Kind of nifty device since it lets you get around both the polytheistic vibes and the false idol stuff. Then again, there’s definitiely a dissonace when you’re referring to Jesus as the son of God but I guess organized religion never has been big on continuity.

  98. There doesn’t have to be any correlation between “active” spirituality/religion and the celebration of religious holidays. Our religious history has been well enough integrated into our culture and values to survive without any actual belief in any kind of deity. I’ll bet that a lot of people who celebrate Christmas religiously (pun most def intended) could care less about the Jesus side of it. I for one enjoy Christmas and even go to mass every year – that doesn’t make me less of an atheist, it just means I’m interested in my own history and happen to like nice stories about camels, men in beards and babies being born. Celebrating traditional holidays does not mean you actually believe in a higher power.

  99. Godsfriend | Apr 2, 2011 at 9:33 pm |

    Correction: For man to define God is to dwarf the true idea of God itself . . . Basic Ideas of Occult Wisdom . . . Michael the “man” has his physical reality to experience . . . judge and ponder . . . he will grow old and die doing so because he believes in time . . The New Man knows he “projects” this reality you refer to as “physical” . . . . creating it from the “inside” to the “outside” . . . and experiences it in the “now” . . . no place called future . . . no place called “past” . . only “now” . . . no time/ illusion . . . I love God . . I love Nietzsche . . . I love . ……. I am . . . . . now

  100. Godsfriend | Apr 3, 2011 at 12:36 am |

    Doesn’t exist for you “Mattman” . . . . you prefer to cling to the opinion you have , to make everything as easy as possible for yourself. . Enjoy ‘time’ Mattman . . . God doesn’t know ‘time’ . . . and God hasn’t been introduced to Mattman so God doesn’t know Mattman . . . perfection . . . perfection . . love is . . I am . . now . . . I am eternal . . . I am in joy . . .

  101. ’bout damned time.

    Mankind has lived in this fantasy world long enough.

  102. ’bout damned time.

    Mankind has lived in this fantasy world long enough.

  103. In some countries, suicide is a crime. Therefore, a person would forfeit all of their assets to the state, or a good portion. If the person had kids, or wanted to leave something to someone, then they could not. That and the extra stigma attached to families with a suicide. Freer countries don’t necessarily have the same social mores and legal statutes that would make suicide even more painful.

  104. What about Belgium ……. ??

  105. DrinkyMcGee | Apr 3, 2011 at 4:46 pm |

    I’m not encouraged. There are a substantial number of people who replace their belief in an organized religion with a belief in vast conspiracy theories or aliens or trolls or whatever. It’s like there’s a bucket in the human mind specifically meant to be filled with bullshit. People free of religion are still people, and history teaches us that people kind of suck.

  106. DrinkyMcGee | Apr 3, 2011 at 12:46 pm |

    I’m not encouraged. There are a substantial number of people who replace their belief in an organized religion with a belief in vast conspiracy theories or aliens or trolls or whatever. It’s like there’s a bucket in the human mind specifically meant to be filled with bullshit. People free of religion are still people, and history teaches us that people kind of suck.

  107. Wiicamper | Apr 4, 2011 at 3:00 am |

    And here I thought christmas was to celebrate materialism. I dont know many people anymore that celebrate some imaginary timeless sky man who fathered himself to die to absolve sin that was placed on man by him.

    Everyone I know celebrates christmas by celebrating friends and family, not Jesus

  108. Lonnieblakley | Apr 4, 2011 at 4:03 am |

    Hay can I have some of whatever your smoking?

  109. “on almost every measure of societal health, the least religious countries are
    better off than the most religious. Countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and the
    Netherlands—which are the most atheistic societies on earth—consistently rate better than religious nations on measures like life expectancy, infant mortality, crime, literacy,
    GDP, child welfare, economic equality, economic competitiveness, gender equality,
    health care, investments in education, rates of university enrollment, internet access,
    environmental protection, lack of corruption, political stability, and charity to poorer
    nations, etc.”

    The Moral Landscape – Sam Harris

  110. Anonymous | Apr 5, 2011 at 9:26 am |

    God is a Vagina, hence “Jesus remember me when I come into your kingdom”

  111. “What we’re seeing now is the pending end, across the world, of the organized religion….”

    You’re extrapolating WAY too much from these nine countries. There are a couple hundred others to look at, and they aren’t all going the same way. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing is another question.

  112. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Man is nothing but solidfied energy or frozen energy. Man cannot be created or destroyed. When man dies, solidfied energy or frozen energy becomes active energy in the air, in the dirt or stored in animals’ body. God is irrelevant or unnecessary in this process.

  113. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Man is nothing but solidfied energy or frozen energy. Man cannot be created or destroyed. When man dies, solidfied energy or frozen energy becomes active energy in the air, in the dirt or stored in animals’ body. God is irrelevant or unnecessary in this process.

  114. The end of Religion, well Amen to that > It’s all good I interviewed Yahweh aka the reincarnated Jesus yes he’s alieve and well on Earth he ain’t coming down on a white horse , and he said the End of Evil is in 2012 , but we all have to do our part to fight against the corruption. anyways as you can understand he has a lot to say about whats going on , listen below , and decide for yourself.
    http://fightthe.podomatic.com/entry/2011-02-08T22_20_10-08_00

  115. The end of Religion, well Amen to that > It’s all good I interviewed Yahweh aka the reincarnated Jesus yes he’s alieve and well on Earth he ain’t coming down on a white horse , and he said the End of Evil is in 2012 , but we all have to do our part to fight against the corruption. anyways as you can understand he has a lot to say about whats going on , listen below , and decide for yourself.
    http://fightthe.podomatic.com/entry/2011-02-08T22_20_10-08_00

  116. Irelands kind of hard to believe given how the catholics and protestants were fighting over who was right about 40ish years ago..im not saying its not very different now but i’d have thought that war would of thrown the scales off just a bit

  117. Irelands kind of hard to believe given how the catholics and protestants were fighting over who was right about 40ish years ago..im not saying its not very different now but i’d have thought that war would of thrown the scales off just a bit

  118. Austria’s #3

  119. The thing is who made religion God or us? With the opinion that God does exist he’s not been on earth for the past 2000 years therefore we’ve made what religion it is today.

  120. The thing is who made religion God or us? With the opinion that God does exist he’s not been on earth for the past 2000 years therefore we’ve made what religion it is today.

  121. I’m Australian and I’m really not sure where they get the idea that Australia is religion-free. There are churches scattered about. The pope came by a few years ago. Mosques are starting to pop up. Heck, take a walk around and you’ll find a few religious ‘salesmen’.

  122. I’m Australian and I’m really not sure where they get the idea that Australia is religion-free. There are churches scattered about. The pope came by a few years ago. Mosques are starting to pop up. Heck, take a walk around and you’ll find a few religious ‘salesmen’.

  123. Yeah … there is hope after a long dark tunnel!!

  124. Yeah … there is hope after a long dark tunnel!!

  125. Its just taking its true for as politcal parties

  126. Its just taking its true for as politcal parties

  127. Its just taking its true for as politcal parties

  128. man made religion. duh. anything that is completely effed up was made by man.

  129. man made religion. duh. anything that is completely effed up was made by man.

  130. HFS,
    death by disinterest.
    ISN
    666

  131. HFS,
    death by disinterest.
    ISN
    666

  132. Labpup223 | Apr 11, 2011 at 3:49 am |

    what you don’t understand is that is that God doesn’t want us to be “religious”. He only wants a relationship with us. Jesus/God never set foot in a church and spent his life helping those who were dying, poor, training others to help the hurting souls of this earth. I am sad that you have such a convoluted image of Jesus/God. You obviously never have understood who God really is. Hopefully you will decide to seek who God is and not what others have told you he is, because you obviously haven’t done this on your own.

  133. You like to blow goat penis don’t you?

  134. YOUR a vagina! A whores vagina!

  135. You talk silly

  136. You talk silly

  137. The only church that is any worth being a part of is the Church of the Subgenius, because they offer Eternal Salvation or Triple your money back.

  138. The only church that is any worth being a part of is the Church of the Subgenius, because they offer Eternal Salvation or Triple your money back.

  139. Ruby Tuesday’s has a salad bar?

  140. “Heathen Ledger is dead”– laws of nature, time, whatever … ?
    just sayin’ champ
    😉

  141. don’t bogart — hit it and quit it yo.

  142. so god is NOT omniscient?
    i mean, if he needs a formal introduction to one of his creatures … ?

  143. i’m still thinking either Canada or Costa Rica– although if their economy stabilizes after telling the UK to stuff their $4Bn demand, i’d head there– the wimmin are hawt!

  144. i guess i missed that convo with god– glad you didn’t

    you hear a lot of voices in your head?

  145. pyramid has four sides …
    just sayin’

  146. shhh– don’t let facts interfere with his delusion …

    or her– don’t mean to be sexist.

  147. isn’t christmas just a revisionism of pagan solstice celebrations? wasn’t historical jesus born in April– or was it May?
    maybe November … ?
    then there’s the whole vernal equinox Eostre thingy …
    and Zoroaster/ Mithra parallels, no?
    read your Joseph Campbell peoples.
    might as well invest yourself in the Star Wars mythos.

  148. Manwhocouldfly | Apr 30, 2011 at 3:40 am |

    I think that spirituality is hugely important to the happiness of an individual. It’s not like the western world has done such a great job since it institutionalized science in the place of religion. . .

    . . .basically, the bottom line is that the default state for people tends to be ‘happy,’ but the default state for a domesticated human being who is in many ways subservient to the systems his / her society imposed upon them is ‘unhappy’

    People who get rid of religion in order to worship the uber-rational science don’t really fare any better than religious goons when it comes to realizing themselves an achieving self respect, confidence, control, and happiness.

    Either way, they are both myths. Science is as much of a myth as religion is- it just explains itself a helluva lot better than religion does in the material world that we live in.

    I’m wary of anybody or anything that externalizes perfection or ideals. . .

  149. Manwhocouldfly | Apr 30, 2011 at 3:40 am |

    I think that spirituality is hugely important to the happiness of an individual. It’s not like the western world has done such a great job since it institutionalized science in the place of religion. . .

    . . .basically, the bottom line is that the default state for people tends to be ‘happy,’ but the default state for a domesticated human being who is in many ways subservient to the systems his / her society imposed upon them is ‘unhappy’

    People who get rid of religion in order to worship the uber-rational science don’t really fare any better than religious goons when it comes to realizing themselves an achieving self respect, confidence, control, and happiness.

    Either way, they are both myths. Science is as much of a myth as religion is- it just explains itself a helluva lot better than religion does in the material world that we live in.

    I’m wary of anybody or anything that externalizes perfection or ideals. . .

  150. Manwhocouldfly | Apr 29, 2011 at 11:40 pm |

    I think that spirituality is hugely important to the happiness of an individual. It’s not like the western world has done such a great job since it institutionalized science in the place of religion. . .

    . . .basically, the bottom line is that the default state for people tends to be ‘happy,’ but the default state for a domesticated human being who is in many ways subservient to the systems his / her society imposed upon them is ‘unhappy’

    People who get rid of religion in order to worship the uber-rational science don’t really fare any better than religious goons when it comes to realizing themselves an achieving self respect, confidence, control, and happiness.

    Either way, they are both myths. Science is as much of a myth as religion is- it just explains itself a helluva lot better than religion does in the material world that we live in.

    I’m wary of anybody or anything that externalizes perfection or ideals. . .

  151. Aw whats the matter are we telling you not to suck dick for crack?

  152. Holindahed | May 14, 2011 at 9:26 pm |

    let me guess.. lol.. you’re humanist. 

  153. Once could just hope it disappears altogether……

  154. Once could just hope it disappears altogether……

  155. Once could just hope it disappears altogether……

  156. Anonymous | May 16, 2011 at 2:54 pm |

    Communism is a religion. Socialism is a religion. Environmentalism is a religion. Democracy, Capitalism, Protectionism, Free Trade, Racism, Anti-Racism, The Big Bang. Etc. All are beliefs which propagate through groups. All requite adherents to take most of their tenents on faith, as no one person can test every assumption rigorously. At best, we test a few and assume the rest are correct. Most people defend these beliefs irrationally in the face of evidence to the contrary. Most people keep their unorthodox doubts concealed in order to get along with larger groups of believers.

    “Religion” isn’t dying out. It’s fragmenting, and the fragments overlap. We all subscribe to multiple religions every day.  The belief in God/Gods is just one of these beliefs that addresses a specific set of human spiritual needs. Some of the organizations that provide these answers may fall, but the needs (and those that service them) will live on. Because there are limits to what science (which has it’s own religious dogmas) can explain.

  157. I think it is not show as you write.  Religion is the faith which never be extinct.
    http://couponjet.org/vistaprint-coupons-vista-print-coupon-code.htm

  158. It the bad for the human beings, because religion  is faith. If there is no religion therefor there is no faith.

    http://jabberwabble.ning.com/profiles/blogs/importance-of-business

  159. It the bad for the human beings, because religion  is faith. If there is no religion therefor there is no faith.

    http://jabberwabble.ning.com/profiles/blogs/importance-of-business

  160. Anonymous | Jul 12, 2011 at 5:22 am |

     Basically Religion has been respect in the Nine Nation and should be respect every religion.
    http://goarticles.com/article/Boost-Your-Muscular-Power/4940998/

  161. Dorianosmith | Jul 12, 2011 at 1:22 am |

     Basically Religion has been respect in the Nine Nation and should be respect every religion.
    http://goarticles.com/article/Boost-Your-Muscular-Power/4940998/

  162. Anonymous | Jul 21, 2011 at 11:35 am |

     Basically every country may be approves religion  extinct  in nine nation.
    http://evorapetsite.com

  163. Anonymous | Jul 23, 2011 at 9:16 am |

    yes religion is respect in somewhere .every religion should be   respect  in every country.
    http://forum.udnr.org/showthread.php?928-Never-miss-this-guide-when-shopping.&p=5412&viewfull=1#post5412

  164. Renardsmith | Jul 23, 2011 at 5:16 am |

    yes religion is respect in somewhere .every religion should be   respect  in every country.
    http://forum.udnr.org/showthread.php?928-Never-miss-this-guide-when-shopping.&p=5412&viewfull=1#post5412

  165. Enigman69 | Aug 3, 2011 at 10:26 am |

    Here’s the thing. The anti-religionists, atheists, hate any religion. But they can’t prove that God does not exist so they have to belittle God to the rest of us. And when that fails, they then belittle us. So just what is it about God that scares the hell out of them anyway?

  166. I’ve met religious Christians from most of these countries.  No doubt there are plenty of Jews, Muslims, and other religions too.

  167. I’ve met religious Christians from most of these countries.  No doubt there are plenty of Jews, Muslims, and other religions too.

  168. Anonymous | Aug 20, 2011 at 9:01 am |

    Basically every religion should be respect in the nine nation .firstly everyone have been the right to expression and feeling to other person.
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