Why Our Soldiers Are Falling Apart

soldiers110214_2_250New York Magazine delves into the tidal wave of returning soldiers tormented by severe psychological problems and outfitted with cocktail-like regimens of drugs for sleeping, stress, psychosis, and muscle relaxation. Contributing factors include everything from the nature of insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan to Facebook to the failings of modern medicine:

The nature of this conflict is also quite unusual. As in Vietnam, the enemy blends in with civilians, rendering everyone a potential threat; but unlike in Vietnam, this war is fought in cities as much as in the hinterlands, which means soldiers are never allowed to mentally decompress.

There’s no front in this war, and no rear either, which means there’s no place to go where the mortar rounds aren’t. “I was up at Walter Reed the other day,” Chiarelli tells me on the airplane, “and I ran into a young kid who lost both his legs, wayyyyyy up. I asked him, ‘How did it happen?’ You know what he said?” He pauses, looks at me intently. He’s big and barrel-chested, with crow’s feet so pronounced they look like they’ve been stamped into his temples with a fork. “He said, ‘Sir, I was standing in line at the PX to get shaving cream, and a 120-millimeter mortar came in and took off both my legs.’ ”

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  • Anonymous

    These guys are not ‘my’ soldiers. There is no conscription. These guys are imperial mercenaries. People say there is an ‘economic’ conscription going on – and that’s true, but I still say that one should prefer homelessness and unemployment to the prospect of risking limb and brain to slaughter innocent civilians in an occupied country. I don’t see why we should ‘support out troops’.

    On the other hand, the troops are human beings and it is disheartening to see them wilt. More imperialist troops die to suicide than die to combat. The reasons for this are manifold: drug addiction to both legal and illegal drugs is one problem. War, revolting by nature, leads to depression. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, anti-depressant do not work and in the long run exacerbate one’s condition. The cure to shellshock is the honorable discharge with a pension. You can’t cure existential sickness with the Prozac poison. Add to this the understandable soldierly tendency toward self-medication through painkillers (H) and alcohol, and you take a promenade down Terminal Alley.

    A less-understood aspect of the problem is the psychologically destructive character of the modern military instruction. There is a great book on this subject: Grossman’s “On Killing”. Turns out that contrary to what history implies, humans don’t like killing. Apparently most soldiers in WWII shot in the air! The brass realized this and redesigned boot camp to produce murderous automata. Think “Full Metal Jacket”. They also played with the language. Consider the following great bit by Carlin: http://namtab29.blogspot.com/2008/06/george-carlin-shell-shock.html
    So the military exerts itself to turn impressionable young men, forcefully infantilized through school, often at least nominally Christian, into robotic assassins. Obviously the unfortunate stooges pay a dear mental price for their training.

    We also have bullying. I suspect the army is like gym class with steroids and bullets. Christian psychosis runs rampant with its inveterate intolerance. In the old days armies had a retainer of whores. Maybe they still do today? Because otherwise you have a bunch of buff horny young gentlemen who are not supposed to touch their female comrades-in-arms, fraternize with the enemy, or turn homo. It’s a madhouse out there.

    Then you have depleted uranium and other battlefield pleasures. Infant mortality and rates of mutation are rampant in the irradiated zones of Iraq and Serbia. The subhuman swine at the Rand Corporation tell us that : “No evidence is documented in the literature of cancer or any other negative health effect related to the radiation received from exposure to depleted or natural uranium, whether inhaled or ingested, even at very high doses.” Oh, really?

    Plus there is the sheer vileness of occupational duty. A Red Army soldat in 1942 had it bad enough, but at least he was fighting for everything dear – even if he was a Ukranian or a Georgean. What’s an Alabaman redneck, screwed by the oligarchy for untold generations, have to fight for in Iraq? It’s ridiculous. Nowadays with the Internet and the anti-war movement many soldiers are waking up to their awful position.

    I say end the war and sue Obama, Bush and the other lizards for war crimes. No more support our troops! No more President Obama! It’s Barrack Obama the Notorious War Criminal, and Bring Back the Troops.

  • hucksawyer

    These guys are not ‘my’ soldiers. There is no conscription. These guys are imperial mercenaries. People say there is an ‘economic’ conscription going on – and that’s true, but I still say that one should prefer homelessness and unemployment to the prospect of risking limb and brain to slaughter innocent civilians in an occupied country. I don’t see why we should ‘support out troops’.

    On the other hand, the troops are human beings and it is disheartening to see them wilt. More imperialist troops die to suicide than die to combat. The reasons for this are manifold: drug addiction to both legal and illegal drugs is one problem. War, revolting by nature, leads to depression. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, anti-depressant do not work and in the long run exacerbate one’s condition. The cure to shellshock is the honorable discharge with a pension. You can’t cure existential sickness with the Prozac poison. Add to this the understandable soldierly tendency toward self-medication through painkillers (H) and alcohol, and you take a promenade down Terminal Alley.

    A less-understood aspect of the problem is the psychologically destructive character of the modern military instruction. There is a great book on this subject: Grossman’s “On Killing”. Turns out that contrary to what history implies, humans don’t like killing. Apparently most soldiers in WWII shot in the air! The brass realized this and redesigned boot camp to produce murderous automata. Think “Full Metal Jacket”. They also played with the language. Consider the following great bit by Carlin: http://namtab29.blogspot.com/2008/06/george-carlin-shell-shock.html
    So the military exerts itself to turn impressionable young men, forcefully infantilized through school, often at least nominally Christian, into robotic assassins. Obviously the unfortunate stooges pay a dear mental price for their training.

    We also have bullying. I suspect the army is like gym class with steroids and bullets. Christian psychosis runs rampant with its inveterate intolerance. In the old days armies had a retainer of whores. Maybe they still do today? Because otherwise you have a bunch of buff horny young gentlemen who are not supposed to touch their female comrades-in-arms, fraternize with the enemy, or turn homo. It’s a madhouse out there.

    Then you have depleted uranium and other battlefield pleasures. Infant mortality and rates of mutation are rampant in the irradiated zones of Iraq and Serbia. The subhuman swine at the Rand Corporation tell us that : “No evidence is documented in the literature of cancer or any other negative health effect related to the radiation received from exposure to depleted or natural uranium, whether inhaled or ingested, even at very high doses.” Oh, really?

    Plus there is the sheer vileness of occupational duty. A Red Army soldat in 1942 had it bad enough, but at least he was fighting for everything dear – even if he was a Ukranian or a Georgean. What’s an Alabaman redneck, screwed by the oligarchy for untold generations, have to fight for in Iraq? It’s ridiculous. Nowadays with the Internet and the anti-war movement many soldiers are waking up to their awful position.

    I say end the war and sue Obama, Bush and the other lizards for war crimes. No more support our troops! No more President Obama! It’s Barrack Obama the Notorious War Criminal, and Bring Back the Troops.

    • MoralDrift

      Many people misguidedly believe in the mission, don’t fault them for being ignorant. In addition, the economic draft is a real thing, at least there is the appearance of dignity in military service vs. the service industry. I myself, am a reservist, and I regret my decision every day, made solely on economic and educational grounds. I’ve been opposed to the wars from the start, but seeing as none of us ever got off our asses and started an anti-war movement, the war will go on if you are there or not and if you have student loans coming due, what do you do?

      Blaming the soldier is absolutely the wrong tactic. No doubt, no apologies. It is the policy and policy makers that deserve blame. If people stopped enlisting then they would institute the draft, the only way to stop the war machine is for average people, citizens and soldiers alike, to organize a movement in opposition to imperialism. Stop throwing stones at soldiers and fight at their side against our common enemy.

      • hucksawyer

        You make a good point… I feel the soldiers deserve pity rather than hatred. When I say “Don’t support the troops”, I don’t mean that we should hate them… Though it is tempting. But it really churns up my insides, man, the idea of going out there to Iraq and slaughtering those people. Protecting civilians my ass. Are the troops protecting the civilians from the predator drones and the amphetamine-loaded pilots who blow up weddings? Before America destroyed it, Iraq was a developed secular country. Now it’s a hell-hole.

        Obviously the real blame lies with the elite… But that doesn’t absolve the troops. We have the Nuremberg precedent, at which the Americans said that following criminal orders is criminal. Economic pressure is no excuse… Instead of joining the army and organizing against war – a paradoxical situation – why not organize for debt moratorium and lower tuitions in the first place…

        But I see where you come from… You make good points. When I try to put myself in your place, I get sick, because I don’t know what I would have done in your boots. It’s stuff like this drives a man to drink. Regards to you, man.

  • Payrollpinky

    You sir are a fucking jack ass and should be thrown in some field of iraq some where and slain. I’ve lost many many friends over there. There is obviously many reasons this war should end and stop sending our people over there. PTSD is serious enough to have to deal with than having to deal with fucking cassholes as yourself. You probably have no idea what PTSD really does to a person and the fucking horrible choices one has to make while over there. Soldiers are there to protect the innocent and sometime the innocent will die. Let put you in a field where a little boy is running at you with an RPG and lets see your fucking decision making process on that chief. You want fucking peace asshole, prepare for war! This is above and beyond where your head could ever reach. The world is not nor will it ever be perfect. Weather the reasons for our government being over there is for money,oil or whatever the fuck doesnt make my friend a bad person. He is there because he believes he should help the innocent and protect our country and the friends of mine that died while over there, were doing nothing but protecting the inncoent. Do NOT put the government in his mouth like he knows he there to just fucking kill people and make America money. Wrong, you despise me and I hope you never meet me or any of my soldier buddies in a dark alley.

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  • http://twitter.com/HFGBSS B. Wonder

    I can understand if people decided to get up and join when 911 happened. but not anymore. if you just joined, or if you keep going back, and are still oblivious to whats happening, then that sucks for you. they get depressed because they realize that they dont want to be there. They dont fight for you, they fight for themselves. they use you to justify their own desires. And then when they get there and their wife or girlfriend starts cheating on them the second they leave, they cry about it. you thought killing people and being in constant danger was gonna be cool? like a video game right? and then when you walk up to the little girl whose head now looks like a spilled bowl of spaghetti ohs, you get depressed? of course. if you were fighting for us, really, your girlfriend might not be so quick to facebook herself getting triple teamed in your bed. people might actually care. this whole conflict has turned soldiers into livestock. which is exactly what they are.

  • http://twitter.com/HFGBSS B. Wonder

    I can understand if people decided to get up and join when 911 happened. but not anymore. if you just joined, or if you keep going back, and are still oblivious to whats happening, then that sucks for you. they get depressed because they realize that they dont want to be there. They dont fight for you, they fight for themselves. they use you to justify their own desires. And then when they get there and their wife or girlfriend starts cheating on them the second they leave, they cry about it. you thought killing people and being in constant danger was gonna be cool? like a video game right? and then when you walk up to the little girl whose head now looks like a spilled bowl of spaghetti ohs, you get depressed? of course. if you were fighting for us, really, your girlfriend might not be so quick to facebook herself getting triple teamed in your bed. people might actually care. this whole conflict has turned soldiers into livestock. which is exactly what they are.

    • chubby

      yes! the powers that be know and use this to their full advantage, using comradry and brotherhood to further their own ends (check out smedley butler), and it is just not the military. we have mercenaries we root for every other night, “fighting” for locales and teams and money. I have seen and known witchcraft and cheating and people’s moods tied to the outcomes of these sports contests, some will say it is an off shoot of a society that was once hunter gatherer, but survival is different than profit imo…

  • http://twitter.com/HFGBSS B. Wonder

    Just to clarify, i support the troops. troops who fight for things that actually matter. not fear. not money. not a flag. not vengeance.

  • http://twitter.com/HFGBSS B. Wonder

    Just to clarify, i support the troops. troops who fight for things that actually matter. not fear. not money. not a flag. not vengeance.

  • chubby

    yes! the powers that be know and use this to their full advantage, using comradry and brotherhood to further their own ends (check out smedley butler), and it is just not the military. we have mercenaries we root for every other night, “fighting” for locales and teams and money. I have seen and known witchcraft and cheating and people’s moods tied to the outcomes of these sports contests, some will say it is an off shoot of a society that was once hunter gatherer, but survival is different than profit imo…

  • Nodreams

    The sooner your mentality is erased from the planet the better.. Your country does not protect any foreigner!! You don’t even protect your own!! You soldier boys are just patsy’s and it must eat you up inside, that you were used by your government just to prop up a collapsing economy…. haha

  • Anonymous

    Many people misguidedly believe in the mission, don’t fault them for being ignorant. In addition, the economic draft is a real thing, at least there is the appearance of dignity in military service vs. the service industry. I myself, am a reservist, and I regret my decision every day, made solely on economic and educational grounds. I’ve been opposed to the wars from the start, but seeing as none of us ever got off our asses and started an anti-war movement, the war will go on if you are there or not and if you have student loans coming due, what do you do?

    Blaming the soldier is absolutely the wrong tactic. No doubt, no apologies. It is the policy and policy makers that deserve blame. If people stopped enlisting then they would institute the draft, the only way to stop the war machine is for average people, citizens and soldiers alike, to organize a movement in opposition to imperialism. Stop throwing stones at soldiers and fight at their side against our common enemy.

  • Bud Bundy

    Well this is good to keep in mind. I didn’t realize I was falling apart, but obviously I am because the internet says so.

  • Bud Bundy

    Well this is good to keep in mind. I didn’t realize I was falling apart, but obviously I am because the internet says so.

  • Bud Bundy

    You have a repressed homosexual attraction to men in uniform don’t you?

  • Guest

    you Sir, have no idea what a fool you sound…’American Soldiers are there to protect the innocent and save thier country’!!? America and its troops and allies are brutalising the middle east and occupying and terrorizing innocent peoples lives, and they are just gonna keep on rolling and brutalizing with no end in sight… who’s next? take your pick, god knows what those pigs in power have planned. Iran? China? that’ll be pretty.
    Im more inclined to lay my feelings at the feet of the poor man carrying his shot dead child past his blown up home where his wife and other children lay dead and burried under bombed concrete. Fuck your PTSD GI, i thought you wanted to go ‘fuck sum shit up!’ y’know, drive sum big trucks, shoot sum big guns… it was your choice.. American Military, policy and people are a stain on this world and its a world which will soon be on its knees thanks to you. Dark Alley late at night!!! you fucking poor simpleton.

  • Anonymous

    The soldiers are falling apart from being forced to do what they know is incompatible with honour and courage. IF the soldier believes the mission they are about to carry out is incompatible with the law, then they have the right and the responsibility to show the courage and refuse to carry out illegal orders and to report those illegal orders.
    When enough soldiers in the chain of command demonstrated the courage to adhere to justice the war will end.

  • rtb61

    The soldiers are falling apart from being forced to do what they know is incompatible with honour and courage. IF the soldier believes the mission they are about to carry out is incompatible with the law, then they have the right and the responsibility to show the courage and refuse to carry out illegal orders and to report those illegal orders.
    When enough soldiers in the chain of command demonstrated the courage to adhere to justice the war will end.

  • Butter Knife

    The veteran support network, in particular the VA, is an atrophied mess. For the past 40 years it has focused almost exclusively on aging Vietnam vets, and now finds itself unable to cope with a bumper crop of young Iraq/Afghanistan vets. This can be fixed, and in fairness the process is already well underway, it simply requires time (with very little to be done about speeding it up) and money (which has been savaged by 30 years of budget cuts) to make the kinds of radical operational changes necessary.

    The economy is tanked and unemployment epidemic, so returning vets have few to no prospects when they come back. They went to war (at least ostensibly) to protect their homes and families, and to keep the country safe and strong… when they’re done, they are often stuck collecting unemployment or working for minimum wage. It is psychologically damaging for *anyone* to be unable to provide for their families or find meaningful work, for those seeking a return to normalcy it is that much worse.

    Modern psychological treatment is extremely reliant on drugs, many of which have not been adequately tested for the long-term effects, medication conflicts, or altered physical states veterans are likely to run into. Even on “healthy, average” patients their effects are frequently unstable, even counter-productive. I’m no Scientologist, and I’m the first to defend the *appropriate* and moderated use of psychological medications on patients who actually benefit from them, but they have become so over-prescribed that I believe they constitute a serious threat to the health and safety of the general populace; this is exacerbated by the health issues of our veterans.

    Perhaps the most pernicious problem is that, in a sense, our physical medicine has gotten too good. Soldiers are surviving wounds which in years past would have registered as DOA if anyone even bothered to check. It’s hard to say that anyone would be better off dead, and I couldn’t in good conscience advocate for allowing more soldiers to die rather than use our medical expertise to the fullest, but we have no real ideas or solutions when it comes to accommodating the soldiers who return home crippled in ways our forefathers could hardly dream of.

  • Butter Knife

    The veteran support network, in particular the VA, is an atrophied mess. For the past 40 years it has focused almost exclusively on aging Vietnam vets, and now finds itself unable to cope with a bumper crop of young Iraq/Afghanistan vets. This can be fixed, and in fairness the process is already well underway, it simply requires time (with very little to be done about speeding it up) and money (which has been savaged by 30 years of budget cuts) to make the kinds of radical operational changes necessary.

    The economy is tanked and unemployment epidemic, so returning vets have few to no prospects when they come back. They went to war (at least ostensibly) to protect their homes and families, and to keep the country safe and strong… when they’re done, they are often stuck collecting unemployment or working for minimum wage. It is psychologically damaging for *anyone* to be unable to provide for their families or find meaningful work, for those seeking a return to normalcy it is that much worse.

    Modern psychological treatment is extremely reliant on drugs, many of which have not been adequately tested for the long-term effects, medication conflicts, or altered physical states veterans are likely to run into. Even on “healthy, average” patients their effects are frequently unstable, even counter-productive. I’m no Scientologist, and I’m the first to defend the *appropriate* and moderated use of psychological medications on patients who actually benefit from them, but they have become so over-prescribed that I believe they constitute a serious threat to the health and safety of the general populace; this is exacerbated by the health issues of our veterans.

    Perhaps the most pernicious problem is that, in a sense, our physical medicine has gotten too good. Soldiers are surviving wounds which in years past would have registered as DOA if anyone even bothered to check. It’s hard to say that anyone would be better off dead, and I couldn’t in good conscience advocate for allowing more soldiers to die rather than use our medical expertise to the fullest, but we have no real ideas or solutions when it comes to accommodating the soldiers who return home crippled in ways our forefathers could hardly dream of.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WZ3V7K2DGG4YCPWWX7HAPIZVQY Crusty

    “These guys are imperial mercenaries.”

    Fuck you, buddy. You are just a pussy, pencil-dick fuckbag masquerading as an intellectual. Ranting on some blog, flaming a bunch of men and women who are putting it all — and I mean all — on the line so you can sit at home and jerk off in front of your laptop. As if any of the shit you’re whining about is the troops’ fault. But hey, who cares about that, or them, as long as you get to run your fucking chickenshit mouth and look smart and hip and ‘radical’. I would pay top dollar to see you dropped into the Korengal Valley in an American flag shirt. Failing that, maybe you should immolate yourself in protest. I’ll give you the gas and the matches. Cheesedick.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WZ3V7K2DGG4YCPWWX7HAPIZVQY Crusty

    Not the soldiers’ fault, pal. The ones who go apeshit — big fucking surprise that some do — and commit war crimes end up pigfucked and hung out to dry, while the dipshits who plan all of the wars (Rumsfeld, now a fucking blogger posting videos of Syrian soldiers stabbing puppies to death…) we are fighting in skate away, la la la. Go do four or six 15-month tours, with no option to opt out, and we’ll see what your tune on PTSD is then, asshole. A lot of these guys signed up after 9/11 out of patriotism, then found themselves involuntarily re-upped into meat-grinder forever missions that made no fucking sense. You’d get PTSD if you couldn’t find your favorite BBQ sauce at the supermarket, pus nuts. In short, fuck you and your dark alley. See ya there!

  • WhiteRose

    First issue is recruiting, some get in and stay in that shouldn’t. Then when they deploy they crack that much more. One gal under a guys command that I knew tried to off herself before deployment and they still let her go to Iraq. From what I have witnessed they just want bodies over there doing the job, not really able bodies. Another high ranking guy was wondering how he passed the psych part to go deploy I didn’t want to point out that meant they didn’t care…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WZ3V7K2DGG4YCPWWX7HAPIZVQY Crusty

    Fuckin’ A, bubba! You have plenty of cheesedick civvies like me on your side. There are plenty of us who will gladly stand with you any dark alley, anywhere, anytime.

  • WhiteRose

    First issue is recruiting, some get in and stay in that shouldn’t. Then when they deploy they crack that much more. One gal under a guys command that I knew tried to off herself before deployment and they still let her go to Iraq. From what I have witnessed they just want bodies over there doing the job, not really able bodies. Another high ranking guy was wondering how he passed the psych part to go deploy I didn’t want to point out that meant they didn’t care…..

  • Hadrian999

    one possible answer could be that more and more non-combat MOS’ are being put into combat roles, a fully trained infantry man facing the effects of combat is one thing but psy-ops, supply clerks, and support soldiers being in combat they aren’t trained for could very stressing.

  • Hadrian999

    one possible answer could be that more and more non-combat MOS’ are being put into combat roles, a fully trained infantry man facing the effects of combat is one thing but psy-ops, supply clerks, and support soldiers being in combat they aren’t trained for could very stressing.

  • Anonymous

    Fuck you right back. Do you know your own history? How many times has America been invaded? Once – during the war of 1812, which Washington initiated. There was Pearl Harbor but that was not an invasion and it occurred in Hawaii – a land America stole from its native inhabitants.
    On the other hand, the brave American troops conquered half of Mexico, and slaughtered millions of people in the Philippines, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. This to go with the relentless subjugation of Latin America under the Monroe doctrine. Read Galeano and Smedley Butler. Since Eisenhower America has terrorized the Middle East, under successive doctrines issued from Eisenhower, Carter, and the two Bushes.
    America has enough nukes to detonate the Solar System. No nation on Earth threatens, or could ever threaten, America.
    The American army exists for the express purpose of looting and conquering foreign lands. You may insist on America’s right to live well at the expense of others; if so, feel free to kill yourself – immolation certainly is a good way to go for the proud thug. Besides, how well do the Americans really live? A land of parking lots and wage slavery, 40 million people on food stamps – yep, a real good way to live.
    Have you heard of the deficit? The oligarchs are using it as an excuse for destroying the already underdeveloped and underfunded American social net. What caused this awful deficit? Military spending. Who benefits from the wars, really? Do you? Do the Iraqis? What about the bankers and the CEOs of Boing and Lockheed and the other ‘defense’-minded corporations?
    Here’s how it works: the American people pay official and unofficial (through subsistence level wages) taxes so that the USA can have an army, which the corporations supply at extreme cost. The army goes to places, destroys them with bombs that could have been plows and tractors, and then Blackwater comes in to rebuild the place at the expense of the conquered people… It’s a very nice scam… The used-up soldiers come home and unleash their anger on themselves, their love ones, and everything in between – everything except the oligarchs who are to blame for everything in the first place.

    But why listen to me? One of the greatest American martial heroes, bearer of two Medals of Honor, General Smedley Butler, said it best: War is a racket.
    http://warisaracket.org/dedication.html
    Video with narration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0

    Screw it, I’ve had enough. Don’t let loud apoplectic mouthbreathers like Crusty intimidate you, guys. To hell with the troops and to hell with the wars.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the offer, but I don’t lean that way. Try your papa.

  • Anonymous

    You make a good point… I feel the soldiers deserve pity rather than hatred. When I say “Don’t support the troops”, I don’t mean that we should hate them… Though it is tempting. But it really churns up my insides, man, the idea of going out there to Iraq and slaughtering those people. Protecting civilians my ass. Are the troops protecting the civilians from the predator drones and the amphetamine-loaded pilots who blow up weddings? Before America destroyed it, Iraq was a developed secular country. Now it’s a hell-hole.

    Obviously the real blame lies with the elite… But that doesn’t absolve the troops. We have the Nuremberg precedent, at which the Americans said that following criminal orders is criminal. Economic pressure is no excuse… Instead of joining the army and organizing against war – a paradoxical situation – why not organize for debt moratorium and lower tuitions in the first place…

    But I see where you come from… You make good points. When I try to put myself in your place, I get sick, because I don’t know what I would have done in your boots. It’s stuff like this drives a man to drink. Regards to you, man.

  • Anonymous

    So how would you feel if a bunch of psychotic mutants armored in kevlar and armed with machine guns suddenly drop out of the sky, shoot up the joint and tell you “EVERYTHING WILL BE ALL RIGHT! WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT YOU!” Then their superiors proceed to ‘liberalize’ the country and to administer its oil for the good of humanity. Your family died in a bombing raid and ten of your brothers and sisters died of starvation during the embargo in the ’90s. Suddenly, you find an RPG. Now what?

    “Let put you in a field where a little boy is running at you with an RPG and lets see your fucking decision making process on that chief.”
    I can do better – if you weren’t there in the first place, the problem wouldn’t exist. Same thing for PTSD. Don’t get it in the first place by not being there. If you have it – immediate honorable discharge with a pension.

  • WhiteRose

    And what has your country done to stop the big bad wolf USA? Hmmm, NOTHING? Looks like your country must be guilty too HA HA don’t ask us to help you when you are next :)

  • Anonymous

    Then you sir are just a common murderer, but i guess murdering people in dark alleys are what the military prepared you and your “buddies” for. Woe to America when fuckers like you come back to the homeland with no legitimate shooting targets and nowhere to direct the rage except becoming a cop or a crowd control robot for the government!

    I can have pity and a certain empathy with thoughtful soldiers like MoralDrift, but with regard to fuckers like yourself I’m with Jack Kane all the way: To hell with you and the troops. Oh I forgot, you already are in hell, you just don’t know it yet! Our ancestors called it eternal damnation; today they are calling it PTSD. Pray you never will know, because then you will discover that the human soul does not always forgive and forget, and you can’t escape from what’s inside you.

  • Wloell

    Unfortunately us Old Europeans have not yet learened what our brethren in the European Union learned: That war does not pay!

  • Wernerlll

    Unfortunately us Old Europeans have not yet learened what our brethren in the European Union learned: That war does not pay!