• MoralDrift

    Whats exceptionally sick is that the little girl is wearing a jacket covered in “peace signs”. What a load of malarkey.

    Now, if the President had announced that with the death of America’s #1 bogeyman we could bring the troops home and end the paranoia, I would be partying for a week straight, no exaggerations. Instead we get word of Osama Bin Bogeyman taking a bullet to the head and subsequently being dumped off into the sea mob style.

    Not even a day later we get trumped up reports of retaliation and even good ol Hilldog saying that “the war on terror continues”. So what is there to celebrate? Celebrating a man’s death, any man’s death, in and of itself is reprehensible. Celebrating a death that leads to peace and my nations return to sanity, week long extravagant parties are required!

    Of course the war goes on, I never expected anything different. But please Obama, surprise us all, BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW

    • Liam_McGonagle

      Am waiting for the inevitable crass commericalization of the event. Commemorative plates, S.E.A.L. turning up as #1 most popular baby boy’s name for 2011, and McDonald’s putting out childrens’ Happy Meals depicts artists’ interpretations of the encounter, with a buff Barack Obama in headband and bandolier straps leading the charge in person.

      I suppose this event deserves some thoughtful study as a possible landmark in the exponential coarsening of our culture.

  • Anonymous

    Whats exceptionally sick is that the little girl is wearing a jacket covered in “peace signs”. What a load of malarkey.

    Now, if the President had announced that with the death of America’s #1 bogeyman we could bring the troops home and end the paranoia, I would be partying for a week straight, no exaggerations. Instead we get word of Osama Bin Bogeyman taking a bullet to the head and subsequently being dumped off into the sea mob style.

    Not even a day later we get trumped up reports of retaliation and even good ol Hilldog saying that “the war on terror continues”. So what is there to celebrate? Celebrating a man’s death, any man’s death, in and of itself is reprehensible. Celebrating a death that leads to peace and my nations return to sanity, week long extravagant parties are required!

    Of course the war goes on, I never expected anything different. But please Obama, surprise us all, BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Am waiting for the inevitable crass commericalization of the event. Commemorative plates, S.E.A.L. turning up as #1 most popular baby boy’s name for 2011, and McDonald’s putting out childrens’ Happy Meals depicts artists’ interpretations of the encounter, with a buff Barack Obama in headband and bandolier straps leading the charge in person.

    I suppose this event deserves some thoughtful study as a possible landmark in the exponential coarsening of our culture.

  • Haystack

    Maybe she’s just happy that he’s not trying to kill her anymore.

    • Liam_McGonagle

      I think I hear what you’re saying. Even if a person doesn’t particularly get off on death and mayhem, it still has to be admitted that it does appear to restore a little more symmetry to the universe, a sense that people who live by the sword die by the sword.

      But I can’t make that feeling last too long, when I consider the total out-of-proportion chaotic bloodbath wrought upon the people of Afghanistan by the presence of a foreign occupying force, when the Villain-In-Chief was apparently being hidden by Foreign-Aid-Recipient #1 for a decade. In Pakistan. It’s like a sick true-life version of “Team America”.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce8CgJRkr_I&feature=youtu.be

      We do eventually have to confront that realization–and soon–if we’re gonna avoid coarsening ourselves into the type of savage troglodytes that most nations apparently think we already are.

      • Haystack

        But see, in my mind, bin Laden was one of the people principally responsible for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and all that came with it. He gave people like Bush the excuse they needed to turn the country into what they did. None of that would have happened without 9/11.

        • quartz99

          Yes it would have. They were looking for pretexts to invade Iraq before 9/11. Bush wanted to be a war president, and the people around him wanted ways to clamp down on dissent and create their own “reality”. There’s very little evidence bin Laden was even directly related to 9/11. Inspired it? Yeah probably, and certainly claimed credit for it. But the just thing to do would have been to hunt him down and arrest him to be tried for mass murder (not that I imagine there’s a place he could have received a fair trial, mind you). The just thing was not invading countries that had nothing to do with al Qaeda and murdering, maiming and torturing hundreds of times more innocent civilians of those countries than he was responsible for the deaths of Americans.

          • Haystack

            “But the just thing to do would have been to hunt him down and arrest him to be tried for mass murder (not that I imagine there’s a place he could have received a fair trial, mind you). The just thing was not invading countries that had nothing to do with al Qaeda and murdering, maiming and torturing hundreds of times more innocent civilians of those countries than he was responsible for the deaths of Americans.”

            I agree with you, but that doesn’t take Osama off the hook for what he did, and he helped to bring about. America’s crimes do not excuse Al Qaeda’s crimes.

        • Hmmm

          “He gave people like Bush the excuse they needed to turn the country into what they did. None of that would have happened without 9/11.” And who is to say whether or not Bush and Co. knew all about their planned attack from the get-go and allowed it to happen in order to use it as an excuse to go to war…

          • Haystack

            I keep forgetting that only Americans are capable of evil.

          • Hmmm

            It is not a matter of “only”. Every human being has within them the ability to create and destroy. That is who we are and what we do…how we go about doing it is what matters most. Our actions have repercussions and while I am agnostic, I am very comfortable with the idea/concept of karma…

            Perhaps the “terrorists” acted on their own but there does seem to be evidence which indicates that the United States government had intelligence that would have allowed them to prevent the attacks from ever taking place. Allowing the attacks was a calculated move…not only was war declared with the support of the majority of the populace, but they also took down Building 7 and allowed part of the Pentagon to be destroyed. The question we should be asking are: why?

    • MoralDrift

      If you are correct, than she is a symptom of the unfounded paranoia that still grips our nation. 1 large scale attack a decade ago, followed by thousands of innocent children killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, with no end yet in sight. I think the scales of justice are pretty whacked and in light of our relative score in this whole GWOT deal, our paranoia and joyousness at the death of a former CIA asset does make Americans seem well, ignorant and crass.

      One last thought, whether the timing was May 1st or the 2nd, it is funny to me that at least some Americans were out on the streets for May Day, even if it had nothing to do with the reason the rest of the world was celebrating it, the Haymarket Incident.

      • Haystack

        “1 large scale attack a decade ago, followed by thousands of innocent children killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, with no end yet in sight.”

        None of which would have happened without bin Laden. I don’t hold bin Laden responsible just for 9/11–I hold him responsible for everything that 9/11 have people like George Bush an excuse to unleash on the rest of the world.

  • Haystack

    Maybe she’s just happy that he’s not trying to kill her anymore.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    I think I hear what you’re saying. Even if a person doesn’t particularly get off on death and mayhem, it still has to be admitted that it does appear to restore a little more symmetry to the universe, a sense that people who live by the sword die by the sword.

    But I can’t make that feeling last too long, when I consider the total out-of-proportion chaotic bloodbath wrought upon the people of Afghanistan by the presence of a foreign occupying force, when the Villain-In-Chief was apparently being hidden by Foreign-Aid-Recipient #1 for a decade. In Pakistan. It’s like a sick true-life version of “Team America”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce8CgJRkr_I&feature=youtu.be

    We do eventually have to confront that realization–and soon–if we’re gonna avoid coarsening ourselves into the type of savage troglodytes that most nations apparently think we already are.

  • justagirl

    i don’t see what is so disturbing about a little girl being happy about the death of a mass murderer. furthermore, the peace signs on her jacket are ironically fitting. you go girl! …and learn how to draw.

    • Voidthought

      It’s disturbing because she isn’t even old enough to know what is going on out in the world. Like a peer in another article stated, anyone who celebrates to death of any human being is disturbed and ignorant of the true nature of reality, not some learned behavior. You could also call the U.S. mass murderers as well considering they killed over 66,000 civilians in the Iraq war; really anyone engaging in war is a mass murderer, and mass murderer in the form of ideology not a specific person. The most obvious reigning ideologies now are the technocratic war-machine, corporatism and still the reigning champion of the ages…… religion!! It’s ideologies that kill, not people and with the ones that are dominant in today’s world, it is doubtful that we will grow out of it soon.

      • justagirl

        celebrating anything to death is disturbing – but not always ignorant. what i want to know is why this youngster believes that osama was slain by a sword (of sorts). was it not a gunshot to the head? misinformation to our youth is most disturbing to me. her negligent mother appears to be too busy texting to correct the err.

        • Zed

          That is to assume that this girl even knows wtf she’s talking about. She probably heard her hillbilly parents ranting about how he got what he deserved, because they watched Fox news for ten minutes (much like yourself, I’m sure) and completely disregarded the fact that there is no definitive proof linking Osama to 9/11. You’re a sheep. Fuck off.

          • justagirl

            okay!
            thanks for the gumball mickey.

          • Guest

            “the fact that there is no definitive proof linking Osama to 9/11″ … really, ever consider you’re a sheep for buying into such horseshit? I feel sorry for you.

          • Voidthought

            Yet you didn’t produce any evidence countering his argument; you simply took the ad hominum attack route. Instead of an emotional response, why not try to conjure up some evidence to prove him wrong as mature adults would do.

          • Zed

            Right.

            http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden/view

            Read what Bin Laden is wanted for.

            Do you or do you not see September 11 on this list?

            How can you say that Osama is responsible for 9/11 if not even the FBI thinks he is? I mean shit, you dumbfucks, think about it.

            Now, hurry along. It’s 5PM. If you hurry you might be able to absorb some of Glenn Beck’s crazy stew.

          • Guest

            Right … that means Osama had nothing to do with it. There isn’t a legal explanation for it, no of course not:

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700687.html

            When you finish law school and work for a number of years as a criminal prosecutor, maybe you’ll be able to form a different opinion?

          • Malkiyahu

            The link you supplied gives absolutely no legal explanation (or any kind of explanation) for anything. It’s just government bigwigs saying, “It makes sense, trust us. There’s a logic to it.”

          • Guest

            Since you have misread the article and have the blinders on, like many 911 Truthers do, knock yourself out here. I specifically choose a link in as plain English as possible:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks

          • Malkiyahu

            I am not a 911 Truther, and I did not misread the article; you are a liar. I was simply pointing out that the support you gave for your argument did not support anything. Your new link is better.

          • Simiantongue

            Is that wikipedia supposed to provide evidence that links Osama Bin Laden with 9/11 because the wiki attribution is to an article in the Independent. The very first two paragraphs if that article state.

            “Investigators now say they have pieced together more or less the whole jigsaw of the plan to attack America but are missing one vital ingredient: a firm, compelling link with Osama bin Laden.

            Investigators now say they have pieced together more or less the whole jigsaw of the plan to attack America but are missing one vital ingredient: a firm, compelling link with Osama bin Laden.”

            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/piece-by-piece-the-jigsaw-of-terror-revealed-671334.html

          • Haystack

            That poor, poor innocent man!

          • Simiantongue

            I don’t see Zed saying Bin Laden was innocent. Could you point that out please?

            I think the argument is that this is a nation of laws, if he is guilty then we have a due process that has been put in place to secure against corruption. Where are the grand jury indictments for 9/11 against Bin Laden? If the government wants to make accusations then where is the evidence? This is the pertinent time to be asking such questions. Especially now, when some in this country have completely lost their damn minds and are acting no better than the kids running around a fire on the beach in Lord of The Flies. I’m actually surprised they buried Bin Laden at sea rather than sharpening a stick at both ends and displaying his head in front of the white house. That is effectively the level many people are functioning at right now.

            There is a distinct difference between justice and just plain old murder and it matters. Many in this country at this particular moment are turning a blind eye to our ideals of justice merely because it is convenient. Hell I even think Bin Laden had it coming. But I hold the ideals of our society to be much more important. I’m sure Bin Laden would be comforted to know how deeply he has, in his death, been able undermine the principles of our country. Children as in the picture above, people dancing, politicians gloating, elbowing each other for the trophy. It has absolutely nothing to do with him being innocent or guilty and has everything to do with blind murderous mob rage. Next time you see someone pontificating on the higher values of western culture just remember the wild eyed dancers around this particular fire and know that those values are really just a mask over the raw savage that is the true nature of many in our society.

          • YEHAW

            Blah Blah blah…

          • Simiantongue

            “Its called trolling… and obvious troll is obvious…. damn fool. Who is the idiot now! ”

            http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/a-nuclear-hellstorm-in-europe/#comment-196295534

            I don’t even warrant a witty troll. I’ll try and not be too broken up about that.

          • YEHAW

            We wanted to kill him and we did. It took a while..but it was fun. Look how happy we are. If you don’t like blood move to europe. Americans, whether Canadian, Mexican, or from the Good ol USA love blood. Ask Pico… oh wait he is too busy blowing up his local police station!

          • Haystack

            For all you know, she lost a family member in the Trade Center. For some people, 9/11 is a raw wound, or the deeply-felt absence of a loved one, not mere fodder for conspiracy sites. How dare you presume to judge her for judging a mass murderer who attacked her city?

          • youlldoitandlikeit

            So righteously indignant.

          • Haystack
          • justagirl

            I’M NOT YOUR BOYFRIEND!!
            ~ the sheep

        • Voidthought

          I’d say ignorance is inherited through upbringing and believe you me, it is running rampant in today’s culture.

          And I meant “celebrates THE death of any human being” not “celebrates TO death”; typo.

    • Zed

      You’re full of shit and you should feel like shit.

      But on a completely different note, the government has allowed the torture of terrorists in Guantanamo Bay for years. (See http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jan/03/guantanamo.usa ). We have done/are doing some utterly disgusting and unforgivable shit there. Does nobody else find it strange that NOW, of all times, the government wants to start treating terrorists with the utmost respect, by following Islamic tradition and burying him at sea within 24 hours *(Which, might I add, we did incorrectly. See http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_bin_laden_sea_burial )*?

      Please respond, I’d like to hear your opinion.

      • justagirl

        i feel unusually fine – like a peach. i am surprised the u.s. didn’t bring osama home for some torture. …then again… maybe they did. OH YEAH! they buried him at sea to honor his religion. LOL! you bore me. fuck off.

        • eris

          Just because Osama lacked no humanity doesn’t mean we have to. You have shown your true colors, “justagirl”. You are no better and should be ashamed of yourself.

          • Haystack

            Hate is part of the human condition, and I’m not ashamed to hate that man.

          • Nuggett

            Passion is part of the human condition. Hate is only a negative manifestation of this, not an irreducible fact of our makeup. Hate is a state of mind and a choice.

          • justagirl

            if he lacked no humanity he would have had humanity. don’t worry – double negatives are kind of confusing for most unsuspecting victims. xo

  • justagirl

    i don’t see what is so disturbing about a little girl being happy about the death of a mass murderer. furthermore, the peace signs on her jacket are ironically fitting. you go girl! …and learn how to draw.

  • Guest

    USA does it again! Goes into bankruptcy to supposedly kill one man who the FBI claims has no evidence to support having a part in 911. Meanwhile christian kids celebrate a mans death making the USA looking morally challenged. The US military has won how many wars since it inception? Not very many and hardly worth the investment in death and carnage save those who profit from the toys of warfare. Allah bless the USA, because no one else does.

  • Anonymous

    USA does it again! Goes into bankruptcy to supposedly kill one man who the FBI claims has no evidence to support having a part in 911. Meanwhile christian kids celebrate a mans death making the USA looking morally challenged. The US military has won how many wars since it inception? Not very many and hardly worth the investment in death and carnage save those who profit from the toys of warfare. Allah bless the USA, because no one else does.

  • Anonymous

    USA does it again! Goes into bankruptcy to supposedly kill one man who the FBI claims has no evidence to support having a part in 911. Meanwhile christian kids celebrate a mans death making the USA looking morally challenged. The US military has won how many wars since it inception? Not very many and hardly worth the investment in death and carnage save those who profit from the toys of warfare. Allah bless the USA, because no one else does.

  • Haystack

    But see, in my mind, bin Laden was one of the people principally responsible for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and all that came with it. He gave people like Bush the excuse they needed to turn the country into what they did. None of that would have happened without 9/11.

  • Anonymous

    If you are correct, than she is a symptom of the unfounded paranoia that still grips our nation. 1 large scale attack a decade ago, followed by thousands of innocent children killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, with no end yet in sight. I think the scales of justice are pretty whacked and in light of our relative score in this whole GWOT deal, our paranoia and joyousness at the death of a former CIA asset does make Americans seem well, ignorant and crass.

    One last thought, whether the timing was May 1st or the 2nd, it is funny to me that at least some Americans were out on the streets for May Day, even if it had nothing to do with the reason the rest of the world was celebrating it, the Haymarket Incident.

  • Haystack

    “1 large scale attack a decade ago, followed by thousands of innocent children killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, with no end yet in sight.”

    None of which would have happened without bin Laden. I don’t hold bin Laden responsible just for 9/11–I hold him responsible for everything that 9/11 have people like George Bush an excuse to unleash on the rest of the world.

  • wally

    I, for one, upon hearing the news, immediately donned my best headscarf and A-k, before running into the street…and polishing the sky with an entire clip, while dancing a jig… Yip-peee! la-la-la-la-la….

  • wally

    I, for one, upon hearing the news, immediately donned my best headscarf and A-k, before running into the street…and polishing the sky with an entire clip, while dancing a jig… Yip-peee! la-la-la-la-la….

  • disgustedincanada

    I don’t think blood lust is the best emotion to teach to children, but let’s face it, the government is way ahead of the parents on that one.

  • disgustedincanada

    I don’t think blood lust is the best emotion to teach to children, but let’s face it, the government is way ahead of the parents on that one.

  • Anonymous

    Yes it would have. They were looking for pretexts to invade Iraq before 9/11. Bush wanted to be a war president, and the people around him wanted ways to clamp down on dissent and create their own “reality”. There’s very little evidence bin Laden was even directly related to 9/11. Inspired it? Yeah probably, and certainly claimed credit for it. But the just thing to do would have been to hunt him down and arrest him to be tried for mass murder (not that I imagine there’s a place he could have received a fair trial, mind you). The just thing was not invading countries that had nothing to do with al Qaeda and murdering, maiming and torturing hundreds of times more innocent civilians of those countries than he was responsible for the deaths of Americans.

  • quartz99

    This is disgusting. What kind of parent teaches their kid that murders (justified or not) are something to celebrate? Sometimes these things have to be done, but acknowledging that is a far cry from taking joy in it. If you’re taking joy in the murder of a demonized, de-humanized enemy, what, exactly, makes you any different from the supporters of al Qaeda and other terror groups? That’s precisely what they do.

    • BOB

      You DISGUSTING moral relativist. How dare you equate the extermination of a terrorist with the mass murder of innocents. YOU ARE SCUM.

      • quartz99

        You’re advocating that we teach kids it’s not just ok to kill other people but we should celebrate it and de-humanize any group we don’t like because that makes it ok to kill them, instead of teaching our kids that killing another person is always wrong… and _I’M_ the relativist? Funny.

  • Anonymous

    This is disgusting. What kind of parent teaches their kid that murders (justified or not) are something to celebrate? Sometimes these things have to be done, but acknowledging that is a far cry from taking joy in it. If you’re taking joy in the murder of a demonized, de-humanized enemy, what, exactly, makes you any different from the supporters of al Qaeda and other terror groups? That’s precisely what they do.

  • Voidthought

    I would like to ask this kid is she/he knows anything about the world at large.

    • Haystack

      She might have relatives who died in the WTC. Don’t assume that she doesn’t have a reason to be holding that sign.

      • superfluous

        statistically, it’s much more likely she had relatives who died as a result of correctly prescribed, FDA approved, medical drugs. ( http://www.jhsph.edu/bin/s/k/2000_JAMA_Starfield.pdf )

        on the other hand, if she hypothetically had lost a relative 10 years ago (@ wtc), i hardly think she’d be holding up that kind of a sign and being cheerful about the whole thing, or if so would probably require extensive therapy in order to not end up a complete fascist sociopath when she grows up..
        (then again, i’m no expert on human psychology.)

        • ArgosyJones

          You’re abusing statistics. She’s not a randomly selected person.

          • superfluous

            not randomly selected? how so?

            (and i don’t agree that i am abusing statistics. don’t get me wrong, the stats don’t disprove of her possibly having lost someone @ wtc – nor is there anything proving that she did. the point i was trying to make was that of “perceived threats”.)

          • ArgosyJones

            First you link to a pdf which doesn’t support your assertion concerning probability.

            Second, statistical probabilities describe a randomly selected member of a population. You can’t use them to describe carefully selected individuals, as your comment attempts to do.

            The two girls were not randomly selected in that they were children, celebrating Osama’s death on the night of its announcement, in Times Square, Manhattan. Knowing all these things, we can’t apply nationwide probabilities to these individuals.

          • superfluous

            ah, horseshit..

          • superfluous

            “ah, horseshit..”

            actually, your critique probably warrants a more serious response than that, but i’m just not in the mood for a discussion/nitpicking session about the finer points of statistics/probability at the moment.

  • Voidthought

    I would like to ask this kid is she/he knows anything about the world at large.

  • Hmmm

    “He gave people like Bush the excuse they needed to turn the country into what they did. None of that would have happened without 9/11.” And who is to say whether or not Bush and Co. knew all about their planned attack from the get-go and allowed it to happen in order to use it as an excuse to go to war…

  • Voidthought

    It’s disturbing because she isn’t even old enough to know what is going on out in the world. Like a peer in another article stated, anyone who celebrates to death of any human being is disturbed and ignorant of the true nature of reality, not some learned behavior. You could also call the U.S. mass murderers as well considering they killed over 66,000 civilians in the Iraq war; really anyone engaging in war is a mass murderer, and mass murderer in the form of ideology not a specific person. The most obvious reigning ideologies now are the technocratic war-machine, corporatism and still the reigning champion of the ages…… religion!! It’s ideologies that kill, not people and with the ones that are dominant in today’s world, it is doubtful that we will grow out of it soon.

  • YEHAW

    TEAM AMERICA RULES!!! HELLL YEA! IM GLAD HE IS DEAD! IM SO GLAD IM GLADLOCK BIOTCH!…phew..
    Yea.. I think its great. Im naked now..dancing in front of my window, dick swinging and slapping on my tatoos yelling…HE DEAD FOOL!!! ha ha.. PArty at my place…fuck it..lets meet at JBs Strip CLUB!!!

  • justagirl

    celebrating anything to death is disturbing – but not always ignorant. what i want to know is why this youngster believes that osama was slain by a sword (of sorts). was it not a gunshot to the head? misinformation to our youth is most disturbing to me. her negligent mother appears to be too busy texting to correct the err.

  • Zed

    You’re full of shit and you should feel like shit.

    But on a completely different note, the government has allowed the torture of terrorists in Guantanamo Bay for years. (See http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jan/03/guantanamo.usa ). We have done/are doing some utterly disgusting and unforgivable shit there. Does nobody else find it strange that NOW, of all times, the government wants to start treating terrorists with the utmost respect, by following Islamic tradition and burying him at sea within 24 hours *(Which, might I add, we did incorrectly. See http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_bin_laden_sea_burial )*?

    Please respond, I’d like to hear your opinion.

  • justagirl

    i feel unusually fine – like a peach. i am surprised the u.s. didn’t bring osama home for some torture. …then again… maybe they did. OH YEAH! they buried him at sea to honor his religion. LOL! you bore me. fuck off.

  • Zed

    That is to assume that this girl even knows wtf she’s talking about. She probably heard her hillbilly parents ranting about how he got what he deserved, because they watched Fox news for ten minutes (much like yourself, I’m sure) and completely disregarded the fact that there is no definitive proof linking Osama to 9/11. You’re a sheep. Fuck off.

  • justagirl

    okay!
    thanks for the gumball mickey.

  • RedHerring

    “the fact that there is no definitive proof linking Osama to 9/11″ … really, ever consider you’re a sheep for buying into such horseshit? I feel sorry for you.

  • Voidthought

    Yet you didn’t produce any evidence countering his argument; you simply took the ad hominum attack route. Instead of an emotional response, why not try to conjure up some evidence to prove him wrong as mature adults would do.

  • Voidthought

    I’d say ignorance is inherited through upbringing and believe you me, it is running rampant in today’s culture.

    And I meant “celebrates THE death of any human being” not “celebrates TO death”; typo.

  • Zed

    Right.

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden/view

    Read what Bin Laden is wanted for.

    Do you or do you not see September 11 on this list?

    How can you say that Osama is responsible for 9/11 if not even the FBI thinks he is? I mean shit, you dumbfucks, think about it.

    Now, hurry along. It’s 5PM. If you hurry you might be able to absorb some of Glenn Beck’s crazy stew.

  • Zed

    Right.

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden/view

    Read what Bin Laden is wanted for.

    Do you or do you not see September 11 on this list?

    How can you say that Osama is responsible for 9/11 if not even the FBI thinks he is? I mean shit, you dumbfucks, think about it.

    Now, hurry along. It’s 5PM. If you hurry you might be able to absorb some of Glenn Beck’s crazy stew.

  • Haystack

    “But the just thing to do would have been to hunt him down and arrest him to be tried for mass murder (not that I imagine there’s a place he could have received a fair trial, mind you). The just thing was not invading countries that had nothing to do with al Qaeda and murdering, maiming and torturing hundreds of times more innocent civilians of those countries than he was responsible for the deaths of Americans.”

    I agree with you, but that doesn’t take Osama off the hook for what he did, and he helped to bring about. America’s crimes do not excuse Al Qaeda’s crimes.

  • Haystack

    I keep forgetting that only Americans are capable of evil.

  • RedHerring

    Right … that means Osama had nothing to do with it. There isn’t a legal explanation for it, no of course not:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700687.html

    When you finish law school and work for a number of years as a criminal prosecutor, maybe you’ll be able to form a different opinion?

  • eris

    Just because Osama lacked no humanity doesn’t mean we have to. You have shown your true colors, “justagirl”. You are no better and should be ashamed of yourself.

  • Haystack

    For all you know, she lost a family member in the Trade Center. For some people, 9/11 is a raw wound, or the deeply-felt absence of a loved one, not mere fodder for conspiracy sites. How dare you presume to judge her for judging a mass murderer who attacked her city?

  • Anonymous

    Might as well teach the kids about gloating at death. They’re next if this administration continues the way it’s going.

  • youlldoitandlikeit

    Might as well teach the kids about gloating at death. They’re next if this administration continues the way it’s going.

  • Haystack

    That poor, poor innocent man!

  • Haystack

    Hate is part of the human condition, and I’m not ashamed to hate that man.

  • Anonymous

    So righteously indignant.

  • Haystack
  • Haystack
  • Haystack

    She might have relatives who died in the WTC. Don’t assume that she doesn’t have a reason to be holding that sign.

  • Gasface

    It was really cool watching stupid buildings blow up in New York 10 years ago. I mean New Yorkers are obnoxious on the best of days, and their comeuppance was long overdue. However, I really hope the purported death of this fictional character does not discourage the US government from blowing up more of their own shit. Don’t get me wrong, its still fun to watch them blow up stuff in innocent and defenseless, third world countries. But when they decide to blow up their own shit and their own people, it is much more entertaining. Especially since the American public in general seems to lose their bloodlust quite rapidly when a fraction of the misery their government inflicts on other countries is inflicted upon them. Either way, I can hardly wait until the newly employed writers of Prison Break create the next America hating asshole whose destruction can be spared no taxpayers expense. All while the country and its people march toward ignorance, hatred and eventual oblivion. Now that’s entertainment.

  • Gasface

    It was really cool watching stupid buildings blow up in New York 10 years ago. I mean New Yorkers are obnoxious on the best of days, and their comeuppance was long overdue. However, I really hope the purported death of this fictional character does not discourage the US government from blowing up more of their own shit. Don’t get me wrong, its still fun to watch them blow up stuff in innocent and defenseless, third world countries. But when they decide to blow up their own shit and their own people, it is much more entertaining. Especially since the American public in general seems to lose their bloodlust quite rapidly when a fraction of the misery their government inflicts on other countries is inflicted upon them. Either way, I can hardly wait until the newly employed writers of Prison Break create the next America hating asshole whose destruction can be spared no taxpayers expense. All while the country and its people march toward ignorance, hatred and eventual oblivion. Now that’s entertainment.

  • Malkiyahu

    The link you supplied gives absolutely no legal explanation (or any kind of explanation) for anything. It’s just government bigwigs saying, “It makes sense, trust us. There’s a logic to it.”

  • RedHerring

    Since you have misread the article and have the blinders on, like many 911 Truthers do, knock yourself out here. I specifically choose a link in as plain English as possible:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks

  • Simiantongue

    I don’t see Zed saying Bin Laden was innocent. Could you point that out please?

    I think the argument is that this is a nation of laws, if he is guilty then we have a due process that has been put in place to secure against corruption. Where are the grand jury indictments for 9/11 against Bin Laden? If the government wants to make accusations then where is the evidence? This is the pertinent time to be asking such questions. Especially now, when some in this country have completely lost their damn minds and are acting no better than the kids running around a fire on the beach in Lord of The Flies. I’m actually surprised they buried Bin Laden at sea rather than sharpening a stick at both ends and displaying his head in front of the white house. That is effectively the level many people are functioning at right now.

    There is a distinct difference between justice and just plain old murder and it matters. Many in this country at this particular moment are turning a blind eye to our ideals of justice merely because it is convenient. Hell I even think Bin Laden had it coming. But I hold the ideals of our society to be much more important. I’m sure Bin Laden would be comforted to know how deeply he has, in his death, been able undermine the principles of our country. Children as in the picture above, people dancing, politicians gloating, elbowing each other for the trophy. It has absolutely nothing to do with him being innocent or guilty and has everything to do with blind murderous mob rage. Next time you see someone pontificating on the higher values of western culture just remember the wild eyed dancers around this particular fire and know that those values are really just a mask over the raw savage that is the true nature of many in our society.

  • Malkiyahu

    I am not a 911 Truther, and I did not misread the article; you are a liar. I was simply pointing out that the support you gave for your argument did not support anything. Your new link is better.

  • justagirl

    if he lacked no humanity he would have had humanity. don’t worry – double negatives are kind of confusing for most unsuspecting victims. xo

  • Simiantongue

    Is that wikipedia supposed to provide evidence that links Osama Bin Laden with 9/11 because the wiki attribution is to an article in the Independent. The very first two paragraphs if that article state.

    “Investigators now say they have pieced together more or less the whole jigsaw of the plan to attack America but are missing one vital ingredient: a firm, compelling link with Osama bin Laden.

    Investigators now say they have pieced together more or less the whole jigsaw of the plan to attack America but are missing one vital ingredient: a firm, compelling link with Osama bin Laden.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/piece-by-piece-the-jigsaw-of-terror-revealed-671334.html

  • justagirl

    I’M NOT YOUR BOYFRIEND!!
    ~ the sheep

  • Юрий Паедерастаков

    Nyet, nyet. All comentatotoes have completely wrong idear here—gurl’s sign reedz: “Yeah, Osama is dead”. Is expression of droll sarkasm, not jubliant triumphalism. She don’t believe he dead.

  • justagirl

    i got plentie of it. what is your point?

  • Юрий Паедерастаков

    Nyet, nyet. All comentatotoes have completely wrong idear here—gurl’s sign reedz: “Yeah, Osama is dead”. Is expression of droll sarkasm, not jubliant triumphalism. She don’t believe he dead.

  • Malk

    besides my ongoing belief that this is all planned bullshit, slowly stoking the fires of war profit war profit war profit. The whole USA chanting and “we got him!” stuff always makes me sick. Another of the many reason I’m glad I “fled” the US years ago.

    I heard some lecture somewhere once I like to repeat a lot about “mature conversation.” Those that get angry do so because they have no more talking points. Any civil intelligent adult should be able to speak calmly and wholeheartedly about whatever subject matter they are familiar with. It is when you lead a moron down a road of logic they don’t understand that they get angry. And if you get them angry enough, they get violent. Violence therefore being the lowest level of non-intelligence. You’ve given up on intelligence, put away your tact, said no thank you to diplomacy, and you tromp around the world killing people while you whistle and cheer. KILLING PEOPLE AMERICA. Seems to be about the only thing you score high on nowadays.

    The whole thing makes me sick.

  • Malk

    besides my ongoing belief that this is all planned bullshit, slowly stoking the fires of war profit war profit war profit. The whole USA chanting and “we got him!” stuff always makes me sick. Another of the many reason I’m glad I “fled” the US years ago.

    I heard some lecture somewhere once I like to repeat a lot about “mature conversation.” Those that get angry do so because they have no more talking points. Any civil intelligent adult should be able to speak calmly and wholeheartedly about whatever subject matter they are familiar with. It is when you lead a moron down a road of logic they don’t understand that they get angry. And if you get them angry enough, they get violent. Violence therefore being the lowest level of non-intelligence. You’ve given up on intelligence, put away your tact, said no thank you to diplomacy, and you tromp around the world killing people while you whistle and cheer. KILLING PEOPLE AMERICA. Seems to be about the only thing you score high on nowadays.

    The whole thing makes me sick.

    • Hardoncollider

      America kicks ass…

  • superfluous

    statistically, it’s much more likely she had relatives who died as a result of correctly prescribed, FDA approved, medical drugs. ( http://www.jhsph.edu/bin/s/k/2000_JAMA_Starfield.pdf )

    on the other hand, if she hypothetically had lost a relative 10 years ago (@ wtc), i hardly think she’d be holding up that kind of a sign and being cheerful about the whole thing, or if so would probably require extensive therapy in order to not end up a complete fascist sociopath when she grows up..
    (then again, i’m no expert on human psychology.)

  • ArgosyJones

    You’re abusing statistics. She’s not a randomly selected person.

  • superfluous

    not randomly selected? how so?

    (and i don’t agree that i am abusing statistics. don’t get me wrong, the stats don’t disprove of her possibly having lost someone @ wtc – nor is there anything proving that she did. the point i was trying to make was that of “perceived threats”.)

  • superfluous

    not randomly selected? how so?

    (and i don’t agree that i am abusing statistics. don’t get me wrong, the stats don’t disprove of her possibly having lost someone @ wtc – nor is there anything proving that she did. the point i was trying to make was that of “perceived threats”.)

  • EvilUSA

    I love this picture!

    We are a prison nation, we have more people in prison than any first world nation. We are hostile, hungry and angry! We placate sleeping giants with I-pods and fast food but what you call the devil burns in the American heart. We want war, we enjoy victory and for all our crowing about rights when it comes to combat we don’t believe in them. I am evil, I am american, piss my fat ass off enough to put down my cheeseburger and hit the gym and you will see real hell… I hope more blood rains, I hope the terrorists blow more shit up and the hippies cry. I want to see the war machine march as it did in ever war after 1812 to Vietnam. Fuck desert storm, fuck bin laden.. I want to eat China and piss on it in the name of democracy. I am lust, rage and hate and eternal unrest. I am American mother fucker…come get some.

  • EvilUSA

    I love this picture!

    We are a prison nation, we have more people in prison than any first world nation. We are hostile, hungry and angry! We placate sleeping giants with I-pods and fast food but what you call the devil burns in the American heart. We want war, we enjoy victory and for all our crowing about rights when it comes to combat we don’t believe in them. I am evil, I am american, piss my fat ass off enough to put down my cheeseburger and hit the gym and you will see real hell… I hope more blood rains, I hope the terrorists blow more shit up and the hippies cry. I want to see the war machine march as it did in ever war after 1812 to Vietnam. Fuck desert storm, fuck bin laden.. I want to eat China and piss on it in the name of democracy. I am lust, rage and hate and eternal unrest. I am American mother fucker…come get some.

  • EvilUSA

    I love this picture!

    We are a prison nation, we have more people in prison than any first world nation. We are hostile, hungry and angry! We placate sleeping giants with I-pods and fast food but what you call the devil burns in the American heart. We want war, we enjoy victory and for all our crowing about rights when it comes to combat we don’t believe in them. I am evil, I am american, piss my fat ass off enough to put down my cheeseburger and hit the gym and you will see real hell… I hope more blood rains, I hope the terrorists blow more shit up and the hippies cry. I want to see the war machine march as it did in ever war after 1812 to Vietnam. Fuck desert storm, fuck bin laden.. I want to eat China and piss on it in the name of democracy. I am lust, rage and hate and eternal unrest. I am American mother fucker…come get some.

  • YEHAW

    I think its wonderful and American. I feel good that we are dancing in his blood. Victory is good for a tribe! ALL PRAISE OLD GLORY… I want to dye her stripes in blood!!

  • YEHAW

    I think its wonderful and American. I feel good that we are dancing in his blood. Victory is good for a tribe! ALL PRAISE OLD GLORY… I want to dye her stripes in blood!!

  • YEHAW

    We wanted to kill him and we did. It took a while..but it was fun. Look how happy we are. If you don’t like blood move to europe. Americans, whether Canadian, Mexican, or from the Good ol USA love blood. Ask Pico… oh wait he is too busy blowing up his local police station!

  • YEHAW

    We wanted to kill him and we did. It took a while..but it was fun. Look how happy we are. If you don’t like blood move to europe. Americans, whether Canadian, Mexican, or from the Good ol USA love blood. Ask Pico… oh wait he is too busy blowing up his local police station!

  • YEHAW

    We wanted to kill him and we did. It took a while..but it was fun. Look how happy we are. If you don’t like blood move to europe. Americans, whether Canadian, Mexican, or from the Good ol USA love blood. Ask Pico… oh wait he is too busy blowing up his local police station!

  • YEHAW

    Blah Blah blah…

  • YEHAW

    People aren’t sacred, fuck em. People need to die. Just like some animals need to die for my fucking steak. Some people need to die because they piss us off. Fuck with the HIVE get the bees biotch. Osama stuck his hand in the wrong hive. Now a yellow jackets tail is stuck in his left eye and forty two virgins are anally taking him hell.

    TEAM AMERICA FUCK YEA!!

  • Hardoncollider

    WARRRRRR!!!!! We need more war to wake up the REAL american spirit. People of all different cultures coming together TO KILL AND KICK ASS!!! JEWS and BLACKS and SPICS and CRACKERS killing together under one FLAG!!! I LOVE IT!!!

  • Simiantongue

    “Its called trolling… and obvious troll is obvious…. damn fool. Who is the idiot now! ”

    http://disinfo.com/2011/05/a-nuclear-hellstorm-in-europe/#comment-196295534

    I don’t even warrant a witty troll. I’ll try and not be too broken up about that.

  • Sunny2040

    Who are we to make any judgements of such misacts, the very essence of love which makes us human is the results of lacking in love and human compassion. Celbrating anyones death is inhuman, whether they be a righteous or evil. Such jurydictions should not be are concern only in the hands of our creator.

  • Sunny2040

    Who are we to make any judgements of such misacts, the very essence of love which makes us human is the results of lacking in love and human compassion. Celbrating anyones death is inhuman, whether they be a righteous or evil. Such jurydictions should not be are concern only in the hands of our creator.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    This Osama thing is the best psyop since 9-11. It helps US forget how bad things really are and how corrupt our system has become.

    As to the celebration, kids will use any excuse to party; most of them don’t even know who or what Osama is.

  • BuzzCoastin

    This Osama thing is the best psyop since 9-11. It helps US forget how bad things really are and how corrupt our system has become.

    As to the celebration, kids will use any excuse to party; most of them don’t even know who or what Osama is.

  • Voidthought

    The point? Is there a point… lets find one. Knowledge is one thing to possess but wisdom is another level of understanding the knowledge, a kind of 6th sense. We have lived with death for thousands and thousands of years, shedding the blood of our fellow man/woman and to what end? To create a never-ending battle of wills among differing people seeing things in unique perspectives? Like the great Bill Hicks said, “Evolution did not end with us growing opposable thumbs.” and elaborating on what he was talking about, we need to start evolving IDEAS. That is the only way we are going to be able to deal with this new technological world. And we need to be sure we incorporate wisdom as a primary foundation for these ideas. Murderering our fellow man/woman is a primitive model of reality. Peace be the journey.

  • Anonymous

    This is just mass gloating -lame gloating at that. After ten years we finally killed one guy. What a great job we did pulling the trigger. Bang, bang, bang, good job guys -you guys are soooo skilled at that trigger pullin….it just makes me soooo proud to be an ‘merican. Our boys sure can shoot, cant they,,,,,,,yeeee-fuckin-ha!

  • GoodDoktorBad

    This is just mass gloating -lame gloating at that. After ten years we finally killed one guy. What a great job we did pulling the trigger. Bang, bang, bang, good job guys -you guys are soooo skilled at that trigger pullin….it just makes me soooo proud to be an ‘merican. Our boys sure can shoot, cant they,,,,,,,yeeee-fuckin-ha!

  • http://twitter.com/BanjoLawson H.B Llawson-Paterson

    Someone should take away those signs; give them guns to fire at the sky.

  • http://twitter.com/BanjoLawson Banjo Lawson

    Someone should take away those signs; give them guns to fire at the sky.

  • justagirl
  • ArgosyJones

    First you link to a pdf which doesn’t support your assertion concerning probability.

    Second, statistical probabilities describe a randomly selected member of a population. You can’t use them to describe carefully selected individuals, as your comment attempts to do.

    The two girls were not randomly selected in that they were children, celebrating Osama’s death on the night of its announcement, in Times Square, Manhattan. Knowing all these things, we can’t apply nationwide probabilities to these individuals.

  • superfluous

    ah, horseshit..

  • Nuggett

    Passion is part of the human condition. Hate is only a negative manifestation of this, not an irreducible fact of our makeup. Hate is a state of mind and a choice.

  • Hmmm

    It is not a matter of “only”. Every human being has within them the ability to create and destroy. That is who we are and what we do…how we go about doing it is what matters most. Our actions have repercussions and while I am agnostic, I am very comfortable with the idea/concept of karma…

    Perhaps the “terrorists” acted on their own but there does seem to be evidence which indicates that the United States government had intelligence that would have allowed them to prevent the attacks from ever taking place. Allowing the attacks was a calculated move…not only was war declared with the support of the majority of the populace, but they also took down Building 7 and allowed part of the Pentagon to be destroyed. The question we should be asking are: why?

  • superfluous

    “ah, horseshit..”

    actually, your critique probably warrants a more serious response than that, but i’m just not in the mood for a discussion/nitpicking session about the finer points of statistics/probability at the moment.

  • Hippie

    That kid should get a new jacket!

  • Hippie

    That kid should get a new jacket!

  • Hardoncollider

    Good I hate you.

  • Hardoncollider

    America kicks ass…

  • BOB

    There is NOTHING disturbing about this AT ALL. This child has inherited a better world with the death of Bin Laden. CELEBRATE!!!

  • BOB

    There is NOTHING disturbing about this AT ALL. This child has inherited a better world with the death of Bin Laden. CELEBRATE!!!

  • BOB

    There is NOTHING disturbing about this AT ALL. This child has inherited a better world with the death of Bin Laden. CELEBRATE!!!

    • superfluous

      or better yet; MASTURBATE!!!

  • BOB

    You DISGUSTING moral relativist. How dare you equate the extermination of a terrorist with the mass murder of innocents. YOU ARE SCUM.

  • Anonymous

    You’re advocating that we teach kids it’s not just ok to kill other people but we should celebrate it and de-humanize any group we don’t like because that makes it ok to kill them, instead of teaching our kids that killing another person is always wrong… and _I’M_ the relativist? Funny.

  • superfluous

    or better yet; MASTURBATE!!!

  • Thomasmcg

    Fuck you cunts.  You don’t seem to mind when goat fucking muslims dance in the streets every time they rip aprt a few dozen bodies by way of one of their suicide bombers.  MoralDrift, send your mother over to suck my dick. Quartz99, tell your mother to focus more on licking my asshole the next time she’s over.

  • Thomasmcg

    Fuck you cunts.  You don’t seem to mind when goat fucking muslims dance in the streets every time they rip aprt a few dozen bodies by way of one of their suicide bombers.  MoralDrift, send your mother over to suck my dick. Quartz99, tell your mother to focus more on licking my asshole the next time she’s over.

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