Movie Director Shocks Stars By Admitting He’s A Nazi

Lars von Trier. Photo: Christian Geisnaes

Lars von Trier. Photo: Christian Geisnaes

Movie director Lars von Trier’s new movie is called Melancholia. At the press conference for the movie at the Cannes Film Festival, Von Trier shocked his stars, including Kirsten Dunst and Charlotte Gainsbourg, by telling everyone that he’s a Nazi, that he understands Hitler and that his next movie could be called The Final Solution.

Some choice quotes:

“For a long time I thought I was a Jew and I was happy to be a Jew. Then I met Susanne Bier and I wasn’t so happy. But then I found out I was actually a Nazi. My family were German. And that also gave me some pleasure. What can I say? I understand Hitler…I sympathize with him a bit.”

“I don’t mean I’m in favor of World War II and I’m not against Jews, … In fact I’m very much in favor of them. All Jews. Well, Israel is a pain in the ass but…”

“Now how can I get out of this sentence? Ok. I’m a Nazi.”

Those bits start at about 35 minutes into this video of the conference. If you want to watch more of his madness, earlier on he describes his wish to make a porn movie with Kirsten Dunst.

UPDATE: Von Trier has now been banned from the Cannes Film Festival, which has issued this statement:

The Festival de Cannes provides artists from around the world with an exceptional forum to present their works and defend freedom of expression and creation. The Festival’s Board of Directors, which held an extraordinary meeting this Thursday 19 May 2011, profoundly regrets that this forum has been used by Lars Von Trier to express comments that are unacceptable, intolerable, and contrary to the ideals of humanity and generosity that preside over the very existence of the Festival.

The Board of Directors firmly condemns these comments and declares Lars Von Trier a persona non grata at the Festival de Cannes, with effect immediately.

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105 Comments on "Movie Director Shocks Stars By Admitting He’s A Nazi"

  1. Wow, Lars von Trier was very stupid, but all in this article is just out of context. Cheap web sensationalism I guess.

  2. Wow, Lars von Trier was very stupid, but all in this article is just out of context. Cheap web sensationalism I guess.

  3. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm |

    Von Trier is a wacko, but I still hope he will make that porn movie with Kirsten Dunst.
     

  4. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm |

    Von Trier is a wacko, but I still hope he will make that porn movie with Kirsten Dunst.
     

  5. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 5:28 pm |

    Von Trier is a wacko, but I still hope he will make that porn movie with Kirsten Dunst.
     

  6. Von Trier is a wacko, but I still hope he will make that porn movie with Kirsten Dunst.
     

  7. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm |

    Fuck off, Majestic.  Go work for Drudge or something.  Sick of your bullshit and how you twist things.

  8. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm |

    Fuck off, Majestic.  Go work for Drudge or something.  Sick of your bullshit and how you twist things.

  9. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm |

    Fuck off, Majestic.  Go work for Drudge or something.  Sick of your bullshit and how you twist things.

  10. reubenavery | May 19, 2011 at 1:34 pm |

    Fuck off, Majestic.  Go work for Drudge or something.  Sick of your bullshit and how you twist things.

  11. Hadrian999 | May 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm |

    the nazi thing is pure genius for getting free publicity but I question wanting to do a porno with Dunst, she’s probably the fugliest leading actress in hollywood

  12. Hadrian999 | May 19, 2011 at 2:09 pm |

    the nazi thing is pure genius for getting free publicity but I question wanting to do a porno with Dunst, she’s probably the fugliest leading actress in hollywood

    • Liam_McGonagle | May 19, 2011 at 3:16 pm |

      Well, I personally would be afeared of going to hell if I were to say that I didn’t find Dunst attractive myself.

      But that would probably be besides the point.  As cutting edge entrepreneur industrialists like Rob Black have proven, it can be extremely profitable to produce for a niche market, if you know where to find your customers. Sh*t, there’s probably like a million dudes willing to part with good money for Snookie videos, repellant as I would find that personally.

      Stupid has always been a viable media strategy.

    • Fugly?  Did you watch bring it on?  She aint the top, but she is beyond doable…

  13. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 7:16 pm |

    Well, I personally would be afeared of going to hell if I were to say that I didn’t find Dunst attractive myself.

    But that would probably be besides the point.  As cutting edge entrepreneur industrialists like Rob Black have proven, it can be extremely profitable to produce for a niche market, if you know where to find your customers. Sh*t, there’s probably like a million dudes willing to part with good money for Snookie videos, repellant as I would find that personally.

    Stupid has always been a viable media strategy.

  14. Alban Elfed | May 19, 2011 at 7:24 pm |

    Many artists find beauty and art in the Nazi movement. It took on a life of its own with its symbolism and occult force. IMO there is nothing wrong or stupid with admitting to have an attraction to the beauty in anything, even if it’s widely perceived as being pure evil.

  15. Alban Elfed | May 19, 2011 at 3:24 pm |

    Many artists find beauty and art in the Nazi movement. It took on a life of its own with its symbolism and occult force. IMO there is nothing wrong or stupid with admitting to have an attraction to the beauty in anything, even if it’s widely perceived as being pure evil.

    • Liam_McGonagle | May 19, 2011 at 3:52 pm |

      Don’t you think that fetishizing the nazi aesthetic would be to trivialize evil?

      Sometimes it’s a tough call, drawing a line between parody and praise.  I myself knowingly run the risk that some stranger may reasonably interpret this pic I pirated for my avatar as an endorsement of the Westboro agenda, rather than the ironic counter-statement I intended.

      But I think the nazi thing is extremely UNambiguous.  The very essence of their evil is their aesthetic–a type of “clean”, streamlined approach to art and philosophy that aggressively seeks to destroy in toto and at their personal whims anything not contributing to the greater glory of their Aryan hierarchy.  This aesthetic is at the core of the “final solution”, not an irrelevant add-on.

      Now Von Trier may have had some weird type of meta-commentary (or even meta-meta-commentary) in mind.  The overwhelmingly irony of juxtaposing the nazi aesthetic with his own works does suggest it’s possible.  But I still wouldn’t recommend ANYONE make comments like the ones he has–there was an absolutely zero percent chance that it would have been taken as anything other than a pointless provocation. 

      ‘Cause basically, the opinions of anyone willing or able to interpret this stuff in any other way don’t count; media works on the level of the lowest common denominator of your audience.  You wanna make bizarre, confrontational statements?  Embed it in an ambiguous art production that necessarily HAS to be interpreted on its own terms, not a run-of-the-mill press conference.

      • Playing some deep devil’s advocate here, but I’d argue Nazism is no more evil in mindset than any of the other cultures that believe theirs and theirs alone is the one true truth to be spread across the globe. The one glaring difference though, is that they were not afraid to let everyone know their deepest darkest desires, and act on them out in the open. Nazism was the last big evil to be out in the open. Now we have it worse off.. at least we knew the enemy then.

        We had the crusades long ago, which was as much a war on the european peoples (by brainwashing into wanting to fight the big bad enemies, and being sent off to die) as it was on the middle east.
        Now we even have what is arguably another crusade going on (what.. would this be the third? fourth? tenth? who knows) in the middle east, held by the US instead of the catholic church.

        Has history really changed all that much in the last couple of millinia? Looks to me like the same game keeps getting played, with different players each time.

        • Liam_McGonagle | May 19, 2011 at 5:17 pm |

          Yeah, I don’t know.  I feel the enemy is really not hiding anything at all, and it’s only our own fault if we refuse to recognize him.

          The enemy is a blinkered intolerance, an unwillingness to deal with difference, a desire to crush mercilessly and outright destroy. 

          While negotiating a vast multitude of relationships in an even-handed manner is tough, I should think we’d be grateful for having some easily identified bad guys, like the Nazis, that everyone can agree don’t deserve the time of day.  And act accordingly.

          I really have no beef with Von Trier.  I don’t think his comments were sincere expressions of admiration for any aspect of Nazism.  I think he was just being provocative.  From one perspective, this very conversation would be evidence that in some very limited way he succeeded.

          My only point was that Lars could have had absolutely zero expectation that this thing would do anything other than earn him a boot in the *ss.  Maybe that means he’s braver than I thought, for being willing to say something so outrageous for the off-chance that it would spark some interesting discussion on Disinformation.  If so, we all owe him a big round of thanks–he’s going to pay a HUGE price for our entertainement.

          • I dunno, i think if he plays his cards right he could benefit in one way or another. The way I see it, is that nazism came from very deep-seeded fears of the loss of culture to the industrial revolution and such; thats why it was so attractive to so many. Unfortunately, the zeitgeist of the era back then was all about bad theories in racial dynamics that frankly everyone, and not just germany believed in. This got tied into the movement to the core. This became all nazism was, and after we won the war, and wrote the history, thats the way it stayed.

            Nowadays, the fears have come to fruition, the world’s culture is in shambles, where each generation–scratch that, each decade or two, a new culture rises and falls. In this way, nothing has enough time to gather any meaningful foothold, and different generations have no real bond outside of their immediate family (assuming the children follow their parents interests, which seems to be becoming a rarity). It all serves to leave us fractured as a people, these kinds of things create the enemies you listed. They aren’t people, they are belief structures that crop up from confusion, miscommunication, and fear of the unknown. This is what i mean by hidden enemies.

          • Great conversation guys.  Really got me thinking.

          • Alban Elfed | May 20, 2011 at 12:33 am |

            Maybe not admiration for anything other than the strong-willed nature/tunnel vision aspect of accomplishing a specific endeavor… like you said “meta-commentary”, or rather a personal reference to how he feels he operates in his craft. The reactions are humorous, none-the-less… 🙂 trigger media.

      • Hadrian999 | May 19, 2011 at 4:12 pm |

        but boy did they no how to make iconic outfits didn’t they. the topic of Nazism being driven by aesthetics is a very interesting one, Hitler seemed to be attempting to create a new classic age free from aesthetic or artistic modernism but at the same time obsessed with modern technology and bureaucracy 

        • Liam_McGonagle | May 19, 2011 at 5:07 pm |

          Yeah, Nazi art is really perverse.  From a very superficial perspective, a person could regard it as extremely modern–all sharp angles, clean lines, etc., totally disdainful of 19th century Victoriana frippery.  It could all put you in mind of the brutally streamlined deviant-intolerance of the 20th century mass manufacturing process itself.
           
          But when you look at the actual thematic content, it’s a different story.  The regime constantly returned to Midievalist motifs, like depicting German soldiers as heroic Teutonic knights in a sort of pared down Art Nouveau style.  I’d say that the true core of the style was a radical simplification of coloring, lighting and line work. 
           
          For my money, the ultimate artistic antecedents of the nazi regime were in authoritarian Rome–stolid, representational and dedicated to resolving or ignoring ambiguities and incongruities–not exploring them a la the Expressionists or other true Moderns.

        • 99prozent | May 20, 2011 at 8:46 am |

          Nazi aesthetics make very good reading material for graphic designers and advertisers! 

          http://creativebits.org/german_nacism_partys_corporate_identity_manual

          Italian Fascism and likewise the german variant were grounded in the artistic (and political) movement of Futurism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurism). In the 20s the italian fascists felt they were a true avant garde (and maybe really were) social movement.

          The power of their artistic outlook on the world can still be felt now. Not that that’s necessary a good thing.

      • MoralDrift | May 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm |

         ” ‘Cause basically, the opinions of anyone willing or able to interpret
        this stuff in any other way don’t count; media works on the level of the
        lowest common denominator of your audience.”

        and that’s really the bottom line here

  16. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 7:52 pm |

    Don’t you think that fetishizing the nazi aesthetic would be to trivialize evil?

    Sometimes it’s a tough call, drawing a line between parody and praise.  I myself knowingly run the risk that some stranger may reasonably interpret this pic I pirated for my avatar as an endorsement of the Westboro agenda, rather than the ironic counter-statement I intended.

    But I think the nazi thing is extremely UNambiguous.  The very essence of their evil is their aesthetic–a type of “clean”, streamlined approach to art and philosophy that aggressively seeks to destroy in toto and at their personal whims anything not contributing to the greater glory of their Aryan hierarchy.  This aesthetic is at the core of the “final solution”, not an irrelevant add-on.

    Now Von Trier may have had some weird type of meta-commentary (or even meta-meta-commentary) in mind.  The overwhelmingly irony of juxtaposing the nazi aesthetic with his own works does suggest it’s possible.  But I still wouldn’t recommend ANYONE make comments like the ones he has–there was an absolutely zero percent chance that it would have been taken as anything other than a pointless provocation. 

    ‘Cause basically, the opinions of anyone willing or able to interpret this stuff in any other way don’t count; media works on the level of the lowest common denominator of your audience.  You wanna make bizarre, confrontational statements?  Embed it in an ambiguous art production that necessarily HAS to be interpreted on its own terms, not a run-of-the-mill press conference.

  17. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 7:56 pm |

    von Trier is trolling.

  18. Dave_Plankton | May 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm |

    von Trier is trolling.

  19. Obvious Troll is Obvious

  20. Obvious Troll is Obvious

  21. Playing some deep devil’s advocate here, but I’d argue Nazism is no more evil in mindset than any of the other cultures that believe theirs and theirs alone is the one true truth to be spread across the globe. The one glaring difference though, is that they were not afraid to let everyone know their deepest darkest desires, and act on them out in the open. Nazism was the last big evil to be out in the open. Now we have it worse off.. at least we knew the enemy then.

    We had the crusades long ago, which was as much a war on the european peoples (by brainwashing into wanting to fight the big bad enemies, and being sent off to die) as it was on the middle east.
    Now we even have what is arguably another crusade going on (what.. would this be the third? fourth? tenth? who knows) in the middle east, held by the US instead of the catholic church.

    Has history really changed all that much in the last couple of millinia? Looks to me like the same game keeps getting played, with different players each time.

  22. Hadrian999 | May 19, 2011 at 8:12 pm |

    but boy did they no how to make iconic outfits didn’t they. the topic of Nazism being driven by aesthetics is a very interesting one, Hitler seemed to be attempting to create a new classic age free from aesthetic or artistic modernism but at the same time obsessed with modern technology and bureaucracy 

  23. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 8:56 pm |

    Successful troll is successful. 

  24. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 9:07 pm |

    Yeah, Nazi art is really perverse.  From a very superficial perspective, a person could regard it as extremely modern–all sharp angles, clean lines, etc., totally disdainful of 19th century Victoriana frippery.  It could all put you in mind of the brutally streamlined deviant-intolerance of the 20th century mass manufacturing process itself.
     
    But when you look at the actual thematic content, it’s a different story.  The regime constantly returned to Midievalist motifs, like depicting German soldiers as heroic Teutonic knights in a sort of pared down Art Nouveau style.  I’d say that the true core of the style was a radical simplification of coloring, lighting and line work. 
     
    For my money, the ultimate artistic antecedents of the nazi regime were in authoritarian Rome–stolid, representational and dedicated to resolving or ignoring ambiguities and incongruities–not exploring them a la the Expressionists or other true Moderns.

  25.  And right before the 21’st

  26.  And right before the 21’st

  27. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 9:17 pm |

    Yeah, I don’t know.  I feel the enemy is really not hiding anything at all, and it’s only our own fault if we refuse to recognize him.

    The enemy is a blinkered intolerance, an unwillingness to deal with difference, a desire to crush mercilessly and outright destroy. 

    While negotiating a vast multitude of relationships in an even-handed manner is tough, I should think we’d be grateful for having some easily identified bad guys, like the Nazis, that everyone can agree don’t deserve the time of day.  And act accordingly.

    I really have no beef with Von Trier.  I don’t think his comments were sincere expressions of admiration for any aspect of Nazism.  I think he was just being provocative.  From one perspective, this very conversation would be evidence that in some very limited way he succeeded.

    My only point was that Lars could have had absolutely zero expectation that this thing would do anything other than earn him a boot in the *ss.  Maybe that means he’s braver than I thought, for being willing to say something so outrageous for the off-chance that it would spark some interesting discussion on Disinformation.  If so, we all owe him a big round of thanks–he’s going to pay a HUGE price for our entertainement.

  28. It doesn’t seem any different than the punks in the 1970s UK, who took to wearing nazi symbols just to puss off their parents, and to make a statement that while the older generation was going on about the evils of Hitler, while turning a blind eye to current evils of the time. Of course it was naive, as the National Front & skinheads took it as a validation of their own beliefs.

  29. It doesn’t seem any different than the punks in the 1970s UK, who took to wearing nazi symbols just to puss off their parents, and to make a statement that while the older generation was going on about the evils of Hitler, while turning a blind eye to current evils of the time. Of course it was naive, as the National Front & skinheads took it as a validation of their own beliefs.

  30. Daniel Blom Paulsen | May 19, 2011 at 9:36 pm |

    I hate how this has been blown out of proportions. If you know anything about Von Trier, you know he’s not a nazi or anything of the sort, but simply a very awkward man with poor social skills and a fondness for controversy and provocation. Banning him from Cannes AFTER he apologised and made clear he was neither an anti-Semite or a nazi was a step over the line, if you ask me.

  31. Daniel Blom Paulsen | May 19, 2011 at 5:36 pm |

    I hate how this has been blown out of proportions. If you know anything about Von Trier, you know he’s not a nazi or anything of the sort, but simply a very awkward man with poor social skills and a fondness for controversy and provocation. Banning him from Cannes AFTER he apologised and made clear he was neither an anti-Semite or a nazi was a step over the line, if you ask me.

    • Alban Elfed | May 20, 2011 at 12:49 am |

      Society demonizes anything they don’t understand. It’s the curse of the artist. You would think that patrons of such an event would know better, but no publicity is bad publicity…

  32. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 9:54 pm |

     ” ‘Cause basically, the opinions of anyone willing or able to interpret
    this stuff in any other way don’t count; media works on the level of the
    lowest common denominator of your audience.”

    and that’s really the bottom line here

  33. I dunno, i think if he plays his cards right he could benefit in one way or another. The way I see it, is that nazism came from very deep-seeded fears of the loss of culture to the industrial revolution and such; thats why it was so attractive to so many. Unfortunately, the zeitgeist of the era back then was all about bad theories in racial dynamics that frankly everyone, and not just germany believed in. This got tied into the movement to the core. This became all nazism was, and after we won the war, and wrote the history, thats the way it stayed.

    Nowadays, the fears have come to fruition, the world’s culture is in shambles, where each generation–scratch that, each decade or two, a new culture rises and falls. In this way, nothing has enough time to gather any meaningful foothold, and different generations have no real bond outside of their immediate family (assuming the children follow their parents interests, which seems to be becoming a rarity). It all serves to leave us fractured as a people, these kinds of things create the enemies you listed. They aren’t people, they are belief structures that crop up from confusion, miscommunication, and fear of the unknown. This is what i mean by hidden enemies.

  34. Anonymous | May 19, 2011 at 10:48 pm |

    Society is way too fucking sensitive sometimes, and that flaw is directly related to many of our social problems of today.

  35. smooth_operator | May 19, 2011 at 6:48 pm |

    Society is way too fucking sensitive sometimes, and that flaw is directly related to many of our social problems of today.

  36. ““For a long time I thought I was a Jew and I was happy to be a Jew. Then I met Susanne Bier and I wasn’t so happy. But then I found out I was actually a Nazi.”

    It sounds more like he’s simply senile. 

  37. ““For a long time I thought I was a Jew and I was happy to be a Jew. Then I met Susanne Bier and I wasn’t so happy. But then I found out I was actually a Nazi.”

    It sounds more like he’s simply senile. 

  38.  Netanyahu would make an good Nazi. So would George Bush and his whole family. These a-holes are running things still.

  39.  Netanyahu would make an good Nazi. So would George Bush and his whole family. These a-holes are running things still.

  40. Sounds like the guy is: bad at english, bad at being on stage, and bad at making jokes. Not a nazi.

  41. Sounds like the guy is: bad at english, bad at being on stage, and bad at making jokes. Not a nazi.

  42. I can’t believe people still get so worked up about some bullshit war that happened so fucking long ago. I mean are there any survivors still alive today? And if there are, fuck them. World War 2 is so played out and so is the holocaust. Why isn’t there some type of statute of limitations on this shit?

  43. I can’t believe people still get so worked up about some bullshit war that happened so fucking long ago. I mean are there any survivors still alive today? And if there are, fuck them. World War 2 is so played out and so is the holocaust. Why isn’t there some type of statute of limitations on this shit?

  44. More importantly, how does banning someone with a controversial view promote “freedom of expression and creation”? Aren’t we judged in this realm by how we treat those we despise and disagree with most. Not only that, but how do we let nazis and other forms of republicans make fools of themselves if we don’t even let them speak?

  45. More importantly, how does banning someone with a controversial view promote “freedom of expression and creation”? Aren’t we judged in this realm by how we treat those we despise and disagree with most. Not only that, but how do we let nazis and other forms of republicans make fools of themselves if we don’t even let them speak?

    • Mr. Coffee | May 20, 2011 at 4:22 am |

       “I disapprove of what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it”
      – Voltaire

  46. Alban Elfed | May 20, 2011 at 4:33 am |

    Maybe not admiration for anything other than the strong-willed nature/tunnel vision aspect of accomplishing a specific endeavor… like you said “meta-commentary”, or rather a personal reference to how he feels he operates in his craft. The reactions are humorous, none-the-less… 🙂 trigger media.

  47.  fuck this guy. and fuck anyone one who giggles in sympathy or phoniness when someone is sympathetic toward violent facism. fuck nazis

  48.  fuck this guy. and fuck anyone one who giggles in sympathy or phoniness when someone is sympathetic toward violent facism. fuck nazis

    •  You’re a fucking a guy that doesn’t exist, cunt. Learn to read — this article is not very footed in reality.

  49. Alban Elfed | May 20, 2011 at 4:49 am |

    Society demonizes anything they don’t understand. It’s the curse of the artist. You would think that patrons of such an event would know better, but no publicity is bad publicity…

  50. Thebig104 | May 20, 2011 at 6:10 am |

    Yeah no shit, fuck this idiot. Howabout you do some research before pretending you can write, twat.

  51. Thebig104 | May 20, 2011 at 2:10 am |

    Yeah no shit, fuck this idiot. Howabout you do some research before pretending you can write, twat.

  52.  You’re a fucking a guy that doesn’t exist, cunt. Learn to read — this article is not very footed in reality.

  53. superfluous | May 20, 2011 at 6:12 am |

    Yes, you do that. 

  54. Mr. Coffee | May 20, 2011 at 8:20 am |

     I’m a Stalinist and nobody makes stories about me. Where’s my day in the limelight?

  55. Mr. Coffee | May 20, 2011 at 4:20 am |

     I’m a Stalinist and nobody makes stories about me. Where’s my day in the limelight?

  56. Mr. Coffee | May 20, 2011 at 8:22 am |

     “I disapprove of what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it”
    – Voltaire

  57. Anonymous | May 20, 2011 at 8:22 am |

    You’d think the guy’s past work would have earned him the benefit of the doubt. So he made a tasteless joke? watch any of his films and you’ll understand that he’s a empathic artist with a big heart. Hardly a Nazi. 

  58. dumbsaint | May 20, 2011 at 4:22 am |

    You’d think the guy’s past work would have earned him the benefit of the doubt. So he made a tasteless joke? watch any of his films and you’ll understand that he’s a empathic artist with a big heart. Hardly a Nazi. 

  59. riiiight. so Von Trier gets “persona non grata’d” for a nazi joke but they’ll let Roman Polanski in?

  60. riiiight. so Von Trier gets “persona non grata’d” for a nazi joke but they’ll let Roman Polanski in?

  61. Fugly?  Did you watch bring it on?  She aint the top, but she is beyond doable…

  62. Exactly.

  63. Anonymous | May 20, 2011 at 12:46 pm |

    Nazi aesthetics make very good reading material for graphic designers and advertisers! 

    http://creativebits.org/german_nacism_partys_corporate_identity_manual

  64. Jahopson Tx | May 20, 2011 at 1:02 pm |

    Cannes just fell completely off my respect list. It was VERY obvious Trier was completely tongue-in-cheek about the Jew/Nazi crap, the porno with Dunst, Udo’s and Stellan’s drinking habits, etc. He obviously has poor social skills but that is no crime and all you have to do is watch a movie of his to understand that he likes to render an audience into a state of discomfort. All this means to me is that now instead of renting his movies, I will buy them and fully support his work. I thought France was edgier than that…I am completely disappointed in them. 

  65. Jahopson Tx | May 20, 2011 at 1:02 pm |

    Cannes just fell completely off my respect list. It was VERY obvious Trier was completely tongue-in-cheek about the Jew/Nazi crap, the porno with Dunst, Udo’s and Stellan’s drinking habits, etc. He obviously has poor social skills but that is no crime and all you have to do is watch a movie of his to understand that he likes to render an audience into a state of discomfort. All this means to me is that now instead of renting his movies, I will buy them and fully support his work. I thought France was edgier than that…I am completely disappointed in them. 

  66. Jahopson Tx | May 20, 2011 at 9:02 am |

    Cannes just fell completely off my respect list. It was VERY obvious Trier was completely tongue-in-cheek about the Jew/Nazi crap, the porno with Dunst, Udo’s and Stellan’s drinking habits, etc. He obviously has poor social skills but that is no crime and all you have to do is watch a movie of his to understand that he likes to render an audience into a state of discomfort. All this means to me is that now instead of renting his movies, I will buy them and fully support his work. I thought France was edgier than that…I am completely disappointed in them. 

    •  I have a friend that can’t tell jokes worth a shit. Know what he doesn’t do? Tell jokes. This idiot is fully aware of his shortcomings, but bursts through with all the subtlety and grace of a drunkard in a museum.

    • I don’t think it displays poor social skills at all.. he was talking casually as if he was talking to people that he knew and who knew him.  He smiled frequently while talking about it.  And even said, he doesn’t know how to get out of it now that he’s said all of that.  Clearly, he felt tension in the room and regretted being so genuine and honest.  I respect this dude. 

  67. Great conversation guys.  Really got me thinking.

  68. Gosh, can’t believe Disinformation is being so black and white. Are you going to claim he’s also a satan worshipper and antichristian?

    At least someone gets it:
    Expulsion of Lars von Trier from CannesAnd the Prize for Idiocy Goes To … Festival Management
     http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,763740,00.html

  69. Gosh, can’t believe Disinformation is being so black and white. Are you going to claim he’s also a satan worshipper and antichristian?

    At least someone gets it:
    Expulsion of Lars von Trier from CannesAnd the Prize for Idiocy Goes To … Festival Management
     http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,763740,00.html

  70. Anonymous | May 20, 2011 at 2:08 pm |

    Trolling is a art.

  71. E.B. Wolf | May 20, 2011 at 2:50 pm |

    “an” art. 

  72.  COMMUNIST! Tie him up to a stake and Burn him!

    There, did that help?

  73.  Wow.

  74. Anonymous | May 21, 2011 at 1:01 am |

     I have a friend that can’t tell jokes worth a shit. Know what he doesn’t do? Tell jokes. This idiot is fully aware of his shortcomings, but bursts through with all the subtlety and grace of a drunkard in a museum.

  75. Birch0907 | May 21, 2011 at 1:16 am |

    and mel gibson

  76. Birch0907 | May 21, 2011 at 1:21 am |

     Von Trier grew up believing he was Jewish, but his mother later revealed to him that he was adopted and real father was German. Von Trier is not the greatest english speaker, is a weird guy, an incredible artist, and this was clearly just a joke, though possibly in bad taste. Why are Mel Gibson, a confirmed racist, and Roman Polanski, a child rapist, allowed there and not Lars? FUCK CANNES!

  77. Birch0907 | May 20, 2011 at 9:21 pm |

     Von Trier grew up believing he was Jewish, but his mother later revealed to him that he was adopted and real father was German. Von Trier is not the greatest english speaker, is a weird guy, an incredible artist, and this was clearly just a joke, though possibly in bad taste. Why are Mel Gibson, a confirmed racist, and Roman Polanski, a child rapist, allowed there and not Lars? FUCK CANNES!

  78. I don’t think it displays poor social skills at all.. he was talking casually as if he was talking to people that he knew and who knew him.  He smiled frequently while talking about it.  And even said, he doesn’t know how to get out of it now that he’s said all of that.  Clearly, he felt tension in the room and regretted being so genuine and honest.  I respect this dude. 

  79. The funny thing is that he’s ALREADY won and been nominated for so many awards at Cannes that the ban is completely meaningless. Two years ago they nominated Antichrist for the Palm D’or and very nearly won, but NOW he’s offensive?

  80. The funny thing is that he’s ALREADY won and been nominated for so many awards at Cannes that the ban is completely meaningless. Two years ago they nominated Antichrist for the Palm D’or and very nearly won, but NOW he’s offensive?

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