• Joker

    Wanna hear a joke?

    America.

    • Junny

      America is the greatest country in the world. In terms of what? Everything! 37th in healthcare? Bullshit, more left-wing propoganda, if America has sub-quality healthcare, then why do all the Canadians and world leaders come here for healthcare? Pfft, I’m done arguing with you, you just hate America.

      Plus, it is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian values of freedom and liberty under God. Gays? Their activity is filthy! It’s a sin! What? What does freedom have to do with this?

  • Joker

    Wanna hear a joke?

    America.

  • huj

    This is how things should be:  I dont want crazy weirdos getting books that the government doesn’t approve of…

    • Ewop7

      You are the crazy weirdo for saying that!!!!  What makes you think the government should have the right to disapprove books.  You are the biggest idiot. You just another sheep still asleep.  I bet if a government agent told you to bend of so he could look up your ass to identify you as an American, you would bend over!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001963235299 ThePirate Guy

        Ewop7: bait taken, swallowed, hook, line and sinker. (Ewop, huj’s post is called “trolling for dupes”. You just lost. Hint: he was being sarcastic. Joking. Disingenuous…and you fell into the trap.)

    • GoodDoktorBad

      Dangle that bait!

  • huj

    This is how things should be:  I dont want crazy weirdos getting books that the government doesn’t approve of…

  • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry

    Did I miss something?  Are people getting arrested for checking out certain books? 

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rayne-Rassmussen/100000890438248 Rayne Rassmussen

      an arrest would mean being charged with something…it’s much easier to detain folks when they don’t even know what they are being held for. Just label them a terrorist and let the justice department figure it out when they eventually find the time.

  • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry

    Did I miss something?  Are people getting arrested for checking out certain books? 

  • http://www.theamericanbookofthedead.com Henry

    Did I miss something?  Are people getting arrested for checking out certain books? 

  • Ewop7

    You are the crazy weirdo for saying that!!!!  What makes you think the government should have the right to disapprove books.  You are the biggest idiot. You just another sheep still asleep.  I bet if a government agent told you to bend of so he could look up your ass to identify you as an American, you would bend over!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rayne-Rassmussen/100000890438248 Rayne Rassmussen

    an arrest would mean being charged with something…it’s much easier to detain folks when they don’t even know what they are being held for. Just label them a terrorist and let the justice department figure it out when they eventually find the time.

  • Anonymous

    Dangle that bait!

  • Rdiscount

    I cant believe it was only 10 years ago that people actually went to buildings that housed large amounts of books, and were able to borrow them for free.

    ITS CRAZY MAN!!!! try a little thing called the internet and kindle….

    • Jin The Ninja

      the internet houses 10% of all books ever  published. If all the knowledge i ever sought were to be contained in that 10%- fine. However, there is an issue with doing away of the public house of knowledge the library. If you were to able to distribute books through the internet in a non profit and cooperative way (read NOT googlebooks) then that wouldd be acceptable- however kindle and google books represent a commodification and commercialisation of knowledge that is DEEPLY unnacceptable. Not to mention the encroaching problems one finds when accessing subversive knowledge online- facebook and google are the anti privacy advocates remember?  The internet as it is, is also geared to a largely english/western audience- this is problematic because a large number of people in developing countries and in america/canada cannot access the internet due to poverty. The library is a public institution that allows for free distribution of knowledge- the internet in principle is democratic but rather serves as a both a guard dog and a snitch- hoarding knowledge and restricting it’s use.

      • 5by5

        Moreover, the Library doesn’t do things like pull books away from you the way the Kindle was used to yank books that people already purchased off their devices because the Publisher was being pissy. And they did that with George Orwell’s “1984” of all things….

        Plus the thing about the Library is that you still have not only the right to read, but the right to SHARE. 

        Look at those eBook contracts a little more carefully. Many of them contain insanely un-democratic notions that we’d never stand for with actual books — things like stating you don’t have the right to read the material more than once, or that you don’t have the right to loan your book to someone else to read even after you’ve purchased it.

        Until digital rights EXACTLY mimic the strong protections I get with REAL books, screw digital. I’ve already been forced to give up enough rights by moronic Republican hacks and weak-kneed Democrats-in-Name-Only who’ve refused to fight them. I’m not giving up even more to the Corporatists.

        People need to listen to Richard Stallman on this issue much more carefully. He’s been sounding the warning bells on that for some time now.

        • Jin The Ninja

           exactly!!

    • http://twitter.com/blackholemedia Black Hole Media Co.

      There’s something about print editions though. I’m an old man who’s been around the online world since the BBS days but when I see an actual book sitting on the nightstand, it seems to make me want to read as opposed to an online work that’s sitting out there while I’m offline.

    • tupac.nz

      yeah, but much of the internet still doesn’t have italics so i have NO IDEA when sarcasm is happening at my expense.

  • Rdiscount

    I cant believe it was only 10 years ago that people actually went to buildings that housed large amounts of books, and were able to borrow them for free.

    ITS CRAZY MAN!!!! try a little thing called the internet and kindle….

  • http://profiles.google.com/saintzedofourlostyouth R Z

    the internet houses 10% of all books ever  published. If all the knowledge i ever sought were to be contained in that 10%- fine. However, there is an issue with doing away of the public house of knowledge the library. If you were to able to distribute books through the internet in a non profit and cooperative way (read NOT googlebooks) then that wouldd be acceptable- however kindle and google books represent a commodification and commercialisation of knowledge that is DEEPLY unnacceptable. Not to mention the encroaching problems one finds when accessing subversive knowledge online- facebook and google are the anti privacy advocates remember?  The internet as it is, is also geared to a largely english/western audience- this is problematic because a large number of people in developing countries and in america/canada cannot access the internet due to poverty. The library is a public institution that allows for free distribution of knowledge- the internet in principle is democratic but rather serves as a both a guard dog and a snitch- hoarding knowledge and restricting it’s use.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001963235299 ThePirate Guy

    Ewop7: bait taken, swallowed, hook, line and sinker. (Ewop, huj’s post is called “trolling for dupes”. You just lost. Hint: he was being sarcastic. Joking. Disingenuous…and you fell into the trap.)

  • Pissedoff

    And a few months later George W. Bush signed the PATRIOT Act in to law and the terrorists won.

  • Pissedoff

    And a few months later George W. Bush signed the PATRIOT Act in to law and the terrorists won.

    • Rex Vestri

      And the Fascist regime won too. They got more power at the expense of the people’s freedom.

  • Anonymous

    Suppose you go to the airport to fly home and visit your family, only to discover you can’t board the plane without
    a) getting groped by a massively unqualified TSA agent or
    b) going through a backscatter machine that irradiates you and creates a nude image of your body for the above agent.

    Now let’s say you decide to rent a car and drive, because hey its not so far and you don’t want of this BS with the barely literate airport security employee. Try to turn around and leave and you will find yourself in the same situation as this commercial, whisked into a kafka-esque detention.

    See: http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html

  • hypnos

    Suppose you go to the airport to fly home and visit your family, only to discover you can’t board the plane without
    a) getting groped by a massively unqualified TSA agent or
    b) going through a backscatter machine that irradiates you and creates a nude image of your body for the above agent.

    Now let’s say you decide to rent a car and drive, because hey its not so far and you don’t want of this BS with the barely literate airport security employee. Try to turn around and leave and you will find yourself in the same situation as this commercial, whisked into a kafka-esque detention.

    See: http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html

  • http://twitter.com/blackholemedia Black Hole Media Co.

    There’s something about print editions though. I’m an old man who’s been around the online world since the BBS days but when I see an actual book sitting on the nightstand, it seems to make me want to read as opposed to an online work that’s sitting out there while I’m offline.

  • tupac.nz

    yeah, but much of the internet still doesn’t have italics so i have NO IDEA when sarcasm is happening at my expense.

  • saint1776

    UM I THINK HUJ WAS BEING SACASTIC???>>>lol

  • saint1776

    UM I THINK HUJ WAS BEING SACASTIC???>>>lol

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    The horror…they might be watching what you read and keeping records of what you take from the library!!!

    The mistake…they’ve been doing that for decades and screening for patterns…long before 9/11.

     The old AdCouncil concern was completely valid tho…an incalculable amount of personal privacy has been lost in recent years (and not just thru Facebook), endless civil rights have been ground to dust, our legal system has been re-engineered to ‘fast track’ anything and anyone with the word terrorism attacked to it…with very little in the way of safeguards to determine the legitimacy of such a claim. The debate has shifted to the right…so far to the right that we no longer argue over whether we should or shouldn’t detain people without hard evidence and the knowledge of rights and a lawyer…but rather we argue over whether its ethical to order the assassination of US citizens as well as anyone, anywhere, who is deemed to be a threat…with no real written rules about what honestly constitutes a threat. That this is a subject for debate IS the center of the problem. It would once have been unilaterally laughed at as some fascist nightmare world that couldn’t be taken seriously…now its our daily lives.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    The horror…they might be watching what you read and keeping records of what you take from the library!!!

    The mistake…they’ve been doing that for decades and screening for patterns…long before 9/11.

     The old AdCouncil concern was completely valid tho…an incalculable amount of personal privacy has been lost in recent years (and not just thru Facebook), endless civil rights have been ground to dust, our legal system has been re-engineered to ‘fast track’ anything and anyone with the word terrorism attacked to it…with very little in the way of safeguards to determine the legitimacy of such a claim. The debate has shifted to the right…so far to the right that we no longer argue over whether we should or shouldn’t detain people without hard evidence and the knowledge of rights and a lawyer…but rather we argue over whether its ethical to order the assassination of US citizens as well as anyone, anywhere, who is deemed to be a threat…with no real written rules about what honestly constitutes a threat. That this is a subject for debate IS the center of the problem. It would once have been unilaterally laughed at as some fascist nightmare world that couldn’t be taken seriously…now its our daily lives.

  • Rex Vestri

    And the Fascist regime won too. They got more power at the expense of the people’s freedom.

  • 5by5

    Moreover, the Library doesn’t do things like pull books away from you the way the Kindle was used to yank books that people already purchased off their devices because the Publisher was being pissy. And they did that with George Orwell’s “1984” of all things….

    Plus the thing about the Library is that you still have not only the right to read, but the right to SHARE. 

    Look at those eBook contracts a little more carefully. Many of them contain insanely un-democratic notions that we’d never stand for with actual books — things like stating you don’t have the right to read the material more than once, or that you don’t have the right to loan your book to someone else to read even after you’ve purchased it.

    Until digital rights EXACTLY mimic the strong protections I get with REAL books, screw digital. I’ve already been forced to give up enough rights by moronic Republican hacks and weak-kneed Democrats-in-Name-Only who’ve refused to fight them. I’m not giving up even more to the Corporatists.

    People need to listen to Richard Stallman on this issue much more carefully. He’s been sounding the warning bells on that for some time now.

  • http://profiles.google.com/saintzedofourlostyouth R Z

     exactly!!

  • Jeph

    Who says the government does love “liberal” Hollywood, they emulate their favorite commercials!

  • Jeph

    Who says the government does love “liberal” Hollywood, they emulate their favorite commercials!

  • Dothat

    I believe the producers of this video, the Ad council, were portraying an ‘Americanless’ America.  As in, some other country, regime, or entity is in control and we no longer have the freedoms of America.  The video is a reminder that the Patriot Act and other anti-terrorism policies  are in place to PROTECT our civil liberties/freedoms.

    Put that analysis in you’re peace pipe ‘Pissedon’.  

  • Dothat

    I believe the producers of this video, the Ad council, were portraying an ‘Americanless’ America.  As in, some other country, regime, or entity is in control and we no longer have the freedoms of America.  The video is a reminder that the Patriot Act and other anti-terrorism policies  are in place to PROTECT our civil liberties/freedoms.

    Put that analysis in you’re peace pipe ‘Pissedon’.  

  • $4251815

    This commercial is bullshit… Nobody reads anymore.

  • ZombieSlapper

    This commercial is bullshit… Nobody reads anymore.

  • Junny

    America is the greatest country in the world. In terms of what? Everything! 37th in healthcare? Bullshit, more left-wing propoganda, if America has sub-quality healthcare, then why do all the Canadians and world leaders come here for healthcare? Pfft, I’m done arguing with you, you just hate America.

    Plus, it is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian values of freedom and liberty under God. Gays? Their activity is filthy! It’s a sin! What? What does freedom have to do with this?

  • Junny

    America is the greatest country in the world. In terms of what? Everything! 37th in healthcare? Bullshit, more left-wing propoganda, if America has sub-quality healthcare, then why do all the Canadians and world leaders come here for healthcare? Pfft, I’m done arguing with you, you just hate America.

    Plus, it is a nation founded on Judeo-Christian values of freedom and liberty under God. Gays? Their activity is filthy! It’s a sin! What? What does freedom have to do with this?

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