U.S. Government Considering Taxing Cars By The Mile

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Pete Kasperowicz writes for The Hill:

The Obama administration has floated a transportation authorization bill that would require the study and implementation of a plan to tax automobile drivers based on how many miles they drive.

The plan is a part of the administration’s Transportation Opportunities Act, an undated draft of which was obtained this week by Transportation Weekly.

The White House, however, said the bill is only an early draft that was not formally circulated within the administration.

“This is not an administration proposal,” White House spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said. “This is not a bill supported by the administration. This was an early working draft proposal that was never formally circulated within the administration, does not taken into account the advice of the president’s senior advisers, economic team or Cabinet officials, and does not represent the views of the president.”

News of the draft follows a March Congressional Budget Office report that supported the idea of taxing drivers based on miles driven.

Among other things, CBO suggested that a vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax could be tracked by installing electronic equipment on each car to determine how many miles were driven; payment could take place electronically at filling stations…

For more information, see original article.

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  • rtb61

    The number of miles most drivers drive, is totally driven by corporate greed. The lack of job permanence means workers can not locate close to their place of employment, as they are likely to be made redundant at the drop of hat, forcing high relocation costs when they try to remain within walking distance of their place of employment.

    Want to tax something, that tax corporations willing to fire employees to inflate executive salaries, tax politicians who claim benefits in a mobile work force ie tax the corporate clowns that hire lobbyists that get ignorant shit heads elected.

    By far the majority of workers would enjoy living in a clean unpolluted environment, and be able to comfortably stroll to work. Only bloody morons would consider it appropriate to further punish workers for the greed driven stupidity of corporations.

  • Anonymous

    The number of miles most drivers drive, is totally driven by corporate greed. The lack of job permanence means workers can not locate close to their place of employment, as they are likely to be made redundant at the drop of hat, forcing high relocation costs when they try to remain within walking distance of their place of employment.

    Want to tax something, that tax corporations willing to fire employees to inflate executive salaries, tax politicians who claim benefits in a mobile work force ie tax the corporate clowns that hire lobbyists that get ignorant shit heads elected.

    By far the majority of workers would enjoy living in a clean unpolluted environment, and be able to comfortably stroll to work. Only bloody morons would consider it appropriate to further punish workers for the greed driven stupidity of corporations.

  • Anonymous_Reader

    “If you take a walk I will tax your feet.”

  • Anonymous

    “If you take a walk I will tax your feet.”

  • quartz99

    Don’t they already tax people by the mile? It’s called a gas tax. Why reinvent the damn wheel? I bet someone involved with this draft stands to make a lot of money off the machines they’d install in cars.

    • kevingt

      The gas tax is not paid by people who drive electric vehicles or only paid slightly by people driving hybrids. These vehicles contribute just as much wear & tear to the roads but don’t pay a dime into the fuel tax which pays for the construction & maintenance. We need to do away with the gas tax and go completely with a mileage-based tax. The miles can be taxed every year the car is registered. It’s not going to penalize people anymore than the gas tax does. If you drive a lot of miles under the gas tax, you have to buy a lot of gas and so you pay a lot of taxes. You would be tax equally under the mileage tax.

      And a mileage tax could be tiered so that they heavier trucks that do more damage would be taxed at a higher rate for the greater damage they do. Switching from a gas tax to a mileage tax shouldn’t affect most regular car/light truck drivers who currently pay the gas tax. However, it will make the people who don’t pay their fair share (electric/hybrid/hydrogen/etc) to finally contribute to the fund that pays for the roads and bridges they drive on.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t they already tax people by the mile? It’s called a gas tax. Why reinvent the damn wheel? I bet someone involved with this draft stands to make a lot of money off the machines they’d install in cars.

  • BananaFamine

    This is an awful idea all around. Especially considering how integral highway transportation is to our market, especially our food. If the truckers were to be taxed you bet your balls the corporations will just lay the burden on the consumer by raising prices. With higher prices comes higher inflation and with oil where it stands now that could wreak havoc on our already dwindling economy.

    • kevingt

      You are completely missing the big picture. The highway system is integral to our markets (as you correctly stated) but it is not being paid for since the govt is collecting less revenue from the gas tax. Last year (2010), the feds had to infuse an additional $8 billion into the highway fund because of the lack of revenue. We need a huge overhaul and switching to a mileage-based system makes complete sense.

    • Nkarnes

      Yeah they’ll raise prices till Walmart goes out of business and local stores can compete again. The US Highway System is a corporate subsidy and the users of it need to pay for it. Why should my federal income tax dollars go to pay for something I never use?

  • BananaFamine

    This is an awful idea all around. Especially considering how integral highway transportation is to our market, especially our food. If the truckers were to be taxed you bet your balls the corporations will just lay the burden on the consumer by raising prices. With higher prices comes higher inflation and with oil where it stands now that could wreak havoc on our already dwindling economy.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/fantoccini* Gort

    Gort telecommuting almost 2 decades.

    Looking forward to and facilitating growth of:

    Desktop manufacturing. Replication. Transporter. Holodeck.

    Excellent.

    • kevingt

      Telecommuting would make be great! As less cars are on the road, there would be less wear & tear and thus less maintenance needed. As there are more vehicles, there is more wear & tear and thus the need for more maintenance. The only way to get all drivers to pay is to switch from a gas tax to a mileage tax.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/fantoccini* Gort

    Gort telecommuting almost 2 decades.

    Looking forward to and facilitating growth of:

    Desktop manufacturing. Replication. Transporter. Holodeck.

    Excellent.

  • Johnnyutah

    time to disconnect my speedometer.

    • kevingt

      You might want to disconnect the odometer instead since that is what measures your miles. And you can go ahead and pay that federal crime fee while you’re at it.

  • Johnnyutah

    time to disconnect my speedometer.

  • hunter349

    This will NOT happen on a federal level. It just wont. First of all any new tax has to pass congress and one such as a tax per mile driven would not pass any time soon. The members of the House and Senate who would vote for such a tax and expect to keep their jobs you could probably count on one hand.

    Second to be fair if you go to the link to the original article, the section shown here is a weird jumble that is contradicted by itself in the following section of the article. They quote the administration saying that they will not promote such a tax and that this idea was formed by low level administration members and was never considered or promoted by top advisers or the president.

  • Anonymous

    This will NOT happen on a federal level. It just wont. First of all any new tax has to pass congress and one such as a tax per mile driven would not pass any time soon. The members of the House and Senate who would vote for such a tax and expect to keep their jobs you could probably count on one hand.

    Second to be fair if you go to the link to the original article, the section shown here is a weird jumble that is contradicted by itself in the following section of the article. They quote the administration saying that they will not promote such a tax and that this idea was formed by low level administration members and was never considered or promoted by top advisers or the president.

  • Robobagons

    If the US votes, and gets him reelected again, then you all deserve whats coming to you.

    • kevingt

      Go ahead an stick you head in the sand and completely ignore the fact that the gas tax is generating less and less revenue even as more and more vehicles are on the roads. We need radical reform to the fuel tax which pays for the construction and maintenance of our highways and bridges. The vehicles we drive are become much more efficient (especially hybrids) thus requiring less gas and now there are vehicles that require no gas (electric/hydrogen/fuel cells/etc), the gas tax is becoming antiquated and will soon be obsolete. It’s smart to address now rather later when we are in a huge hole.

  • Robobagons

    If the US votes, and gets him reelected again, then you all deserve whats coming to you.

  • sitonit

    How is that Obama administration working out for ya? I am glad you are finally getting what you voted for.

    • kevingt

      Obama is working out much better than McCain would have. McCain wasn’t even aware there was a financial crisis until the shit the fan. Just a week or two before the collapse of the financial market in 2008, McCain was yammering away about how healthy the economy was. What a putz!

  • sitonit

    How is that Obama administration working out for ya? I am glad you are finally getting what you voted for.

  • kevingt

    The gas tax is not paid by people who drive electric vehicles or only paid slightly by people driving hybrids. These vehicles contribute just as much wear & tear to the roads but don’t pay a dime into the fuel tax which pays for the construction & maintenance. We need to do away with the gas tax and go completely with a mileage-based tax. The miles can be taxed every year the car is registered. It’s not going to penalize people anymore than the gas tax does. If you drive a lot of miles under the gas tax, you have to buy a lot of gas and so you pay a lot of taxes. You would be tax equally under the mileage tax.

    And a mileage tax could be tiered so that they heavier trucks that do more damage would be taxed at a higher rate for the greater damage they do. Switching from a gas tax to a mileage tax shouldn’t affect most regular car/light truck drivers who currently pay the gas tax. However, it will make the people who don’t pay their fair share (electric/hybrid/hydrogen/etc) to finally contribute to the fund that pays for the roads and bridges they drive on.

  • kevingt

    Go ahead an stick you head in the sand and completely ignore the fact that the gas tax is generating less and less revenue even as more and more vehicles are on the roads. We need radical reform to the fuel tax which pays for the construction and maintenance of our highways and bridges. The vehicles we drive are become much more efficient (especially hybrids) thus requiring less gas and now there are vehicles that require no gas (electric/hydrogen/fuel cells/etc), the gas tax is becoming antiquated and will soon be obsolete. It’s smart to address now rather later when we are in a huge hole.

  • kevingt

    You are completely missing the big picture. The highway system is integral to our markets (as you correctly stated) but it is not being paid for since the govt is collecting less revenue from the gas tax. Last year (2010), the feds had to infuse an additional $8 billion into the highway fund because of the lack of revenue. We need a huge overhaul and switching to a mileage-based system makes complete sense.

  • kevingt

    Obama is working out much better than McCain would have. McCain wasn’t even aware there was a financial crisis until the shit the fan. Just a week or two before the collapse of the financial market in 2008, McCain was yammering away about how healthy the economy was. What a putz!

  • kevingt

    You might want to disconnect the odometer instead since that is what measures your miles. And you can go ahead and pay that federal crime fee while you’re at it.

  • kevingt

    Telecommuting would make be great! As less cars are on the road, there would be less wear & tear and thus less maintenance needed. As there are more vehicles, there is more wear & tear and thus the need for more maintenance. The only way to get all drivers to pay is to switch from a gas tax to a mileage tax.

  • Nkarnes

    Yeah they’ll raise prices till Walmart goes out of business and local stores can compete again. The US Highway System is a corporate subsidy and the users of it need to pay for it. Why should my federal income tax dollars go to pay for something I never use?

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