• Alis

    Someone let me know if the second half is worth it.

  • Anonymous

    All we are witnessing is the last manic thrashings of 30 years of corporate/mass media/political corruption. They can see their power being eroded and have become more desperate and public in their lying, cheating and stealing. Their fear of being held accountable for thirty years of crimes in palpable.
    One thing though when it comes to tackling the thugs of corruption, riot police, it would seem far more sensible to tackle them directly at their home bases, become they can arm themselves with citizen torture devices and hide their identities behind masks.
    Fortunately those bases for the abuse and torture of the public and often very close to the financial institutions that are their corrupt masters. A real effort must be made to hold abusers and torturers of the public accountable for their actions. Which will be more effective, locking down one branch of one bank or locking down the headquarters of the abusers and torturers and their riot gear and leaving all the banks vulnerable to every passer by.
    Just think of the difference between tackling lines of formed up and armed thugs, compared to blocking a few doors and a gate or two.

  • rtb61

    All we are witnessing is the last manic thrashings of 30 years of corporate/mass media/political corruption. They can see their power being eroded and have become more desperate and public in their lying, cheating and stealing. Their fear of being held accountable for thirty years of crimes in palpable.
    One thing though when it comes to tackling the thugs of corruption, riot police, it would seem far more sensible to tackle them directly at their home bases, become they can arm themselves with citizen torture devices and hide their identities behind masks.
    Fortunately those bases for the abuse and torture of the public and often very close to the financial institutions that are their corrupt masters. A real effort must be made to hold abusers and torturers of the public accountable for their actions. Which will be more effective, locking down one branch of one bank or locking down the headquarters of the abusers and torturers and their riot gear and leaving all the banks vulnerable to every passer by.
    Just think of the difference between tackling lines of formed up and armed thugs, compared to blocking a few doors and a gate or two.

  • Notme

    This video makes me feel very uncomfortable. The imagery and unsubtle call to arms (as if violence will actually help) smacks of fanning the flames, poking the beast, just to give reason to bringing retribution down fast and hard. Though the facts are correct in this video, it is true we are being fucked from all sides – the answers do not lie in fighting and violence. Instead, we must endeavor, through knowledge and unity, creativity, imagination and yes love, to recreate our existence to be the way we want it to be. We have to believe that there are other ways than this. For if this really happens I fear it is them that will benefit, not us.

  • Notme

    This video makes me feel very uncomfortable. The imagery and unsubtle call to arms (as if violence will actually help) smacks of fanning the flames, poking the beast, just to give reason to bringing retribution down fast and hard. Though the facts are correct in this video, it is true we are being fucked from all sides – the answers do not lie in fighting and violence. Instead, we must endeavor, through knowledge and unity, creativity, imagination and yes love, to recreate our existence to be the way we want it to be. We have to believe that there are other ways than this. For if this really happens I fear it is them that will benefit, not us.

    • GoodDoktorBad

      When sparks fly, expect flame. This goes for all sides of any conflict. People will defend themselves and this I support, but only to the point of what is necessary to preserve life, including the life of your attacker. 
       
      Complete submission only empowers and emboldens the oppressors and further infantilizes the oppressed.
      It’s wrath that we have to guard against on an individual level. Wrath is the biggest killer of reason and the fertilizer for more hate and violence -something oppressors have in great abundance. I don’t support lynch mobs on either side, but I won’t stand by and watch people getting beaten down when they have attacked no one. I simply condone the attackers be stopped when possible, not to hurt the attacker and not for revenge, but to prevent further violence against relative innocents. Complete pacifism is a violence in itself. 

      Anger has great power. It is the energy of passion itself and passion is life force in motion…. and when life wants to move, it will move and nothing can stop that movement. Sometimes that movement is violent, destructive and not very pretty. Anger is a necessary element in human development, it is not, in itself, a bad thing. Anger is what follows fear. Anger is much for useful than fear and despair. Anger becomes the antithesis of fear. …….and FEAR is your only true enemy. Anger and reason together -will kill it.

      Let your fear rot before it rots you…
       

      • Notme

        I agree with you completely. I definitely don’t believe in submission. Had the video (and I assume Anonymous) called for complete disengagement from the system on all levels I would totally support it. I do believe (as do many) that there needs to be a massive change, and now is the right time. But I just can’t help think the depiction of seemingly senseless violence (smashing windows and buildings and abusing police) is trying to instigate exactly what often derails most protests/action.
        The mainstream are easily persuaded into believing that police responses are justified when protesters shown on the nightly news act ‘violently without cause’. Sure they never show the cops taking off their id badges or bashing innocent people, but it must be said that there is often an element of the disenfranchised who go to protests with the simple aim of smashing shit up. And then that is what is reported and the sheeple are lulled back to sleep, content in the knowledge that the police were only doing their job, it wasn’t their fault. The message is then quickly forgotten and this is my point.
        Right now we need to awaken the masses, to encourage not only the fringes but the mainstream, to see what is really happening and take a stand to make things different. It wouldn’t take much for the whole system to fall apart (seems like it is happening anyway) if we can stand together, unified with the simple aim of making it better. But with violent action I can only imagine that the majority of people will turn away, back to their jobs and tvs and miss the message.
        Of course this may just be semantics, they may well do that anyway until they have no choice. And the time may come soon where you will find me standing shoulder to shoulder with you on the street. I just hope it doesn’t have to come to that.

  • Anonymous

    When sparks fly, expect flame. This goes for all sides of any conflict. People will defend themselves and this I support, but only to the point of what is necessary to preserve life, including the life of your attacker. 
     
    Complete submission only empowers and emboldens the oppressors and further infantilizes the oppressed.
    It’s wrath that we have to guard against on an individual level. Wrath is the biggest killer of reason and the fertilizer for more hate and violence -something oppressors have in great abundance. I don’t support lynch mobs on either side, but I won’t stand by and watch people getting beaten down when they have attacked no one. I simply condone the attackers be stopped when possible, not to hurt the attacker and not for revenge, but to prevent further violence against relative innocents. Complete pacifism is a violence in itself. 

    Anger has great power. It is the energy of passion itself and passion is life force in motion…. and when life wants to move, it will move and nothing can stop that movement. Sometimes that movement is violent, destructive and not very pretty. Anger is a necessary element in human development, it is not, in itself, a bad thing. Anger is what follows fear. Anger is much for useful than fear and despair. Anger becomes the antithesis of fear. …….and FEAR is your only true enemy. Anger and reason together -will kill it.

    Let your fear rot before it rots you…
     

  • Moniubfdb

    well seems that cuba is a good place to live..

  • Moniubfdb

    well seems that cuba is a good place to live..

  • Barack Obama

    Be careful if your inspired by these videos. You might get in a lot of trouble if you piss around with the wrong people.

  • Barack Obama

    Be careful if your inspired by these videos. You might get in a lot of trouble if you piss around with the wrong people.

    • Everyone

      Who are you, are Dad? The “wrong” people need to be pissed with. It’s time what is right rules this world, instead of what is wrong. I am sick of this money morality. If it makes money, it’s good, if not, it’s bad. When did money replace heart, intelligence, compassion, understanding, love, reason, joy and life in general? You would think that a planet filled with immortals would value life more, but apparently not. Money cheapens everything. Let’s see the rich buy themselves out of death. I would rather be rich with love, then paper and digits on a computer.

      • Everyone

        My bad, I meant to say mortals. LOL. Why can’t you go back and edit your comments?

        • GoodDoktorBad

          You have to register with DISQUS to be able to edit after you post.

  • Everyone

    Who are you, are Dad? The “wrong” people need to be pissed with. It’s time what is right rules this world, instead of what is wrong. I am sick of this money morality. If it makes money, it’s good, if not, it’s bad. When did money replace heart, intelligence, compassion, understanding, love, reason, joy and life in general? You would think that a planet filled with immortals would value life more, but apparently not. Money cheapens everything. Let’s see the rich buy themselves out of death. I would rather be rich with love, then paper and digits on a computer.

  • Everyone

    My bad, I meant to say mortals. LOL. Why can’t you go back and edit your comments?

  • Notme

    I agree with you completely. I definitely don’t believe in submission. Had the video (and I assume Anonymous) called for complete disengagement from the system on all levels I would totally support it. I do believe (as do many) that there needs to be a massive change, and now is the right time. But I just can’t help think the depiction of seemingly senseless violence (smashing windows and buildings and abusing police) is trying to instigate exactly what often derails most protests/action.
    The mainstream are easily persuaded into believing that police responses are justified when protesters shown on the nightly news act ‘violently without cause’. Sure they never show the cops taking off their id badges or bashing innocent people, but it must be said that there is often an element of the disenfranchised who go to protests with the simple aim of smashing shit up. And then that is what is reported and the sheeple are lulled back to sleep, content in the knowledge that the police were only doing their job, it wasn’t their fault. The message is then quickly forgotten and this is my point.
    Right now we need to awaken the masses, to encourage not only the fringes but the mainstream, to see what is really happening and take a stand to make things different. It wouldn’t take much for the whole system to fall apart (seems like it is happening anyway) if we can stand together, unified with the simple aim of making it better. But with violent action I can only imagine that the majority of people will turn away, back to their jobs and tvs and miss the message.
    Of course this may just be semantics, they may well do that anyway until they have no choice. And the time may come soon where you will find me standing shoulder to shoulder with you on the street. I just hope it doesn’t have to come to that.

  • Anonymous

    You have to register with DISQUS to be able to edit after you post.