MoveOn Admits To Hacking Fox News

Fox News’ ticker outside the New York building was hacked into, replacing the scrolling news with an activist message describing the lies being told by conservative groups. MoveOn, a progressive advocacy group, claimed responsibility for the prank which they are now using to promote a broad anti-austerity campaign that launches June 23.

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  • Guest

    HACKING IS AN ACT OF WAR!!!!

  • Anonymous

    It’s hard to see what Fox News has to be angry about here.  Their viewership just believes whatteverthehell they wanna without regard to its source or patent implausibility anyhow. 

    Who gives a flying fuck what their ticker reads?  They’re an organization that obtained a court order allowing them, as an FCC licensee, to lie.

  • Guest

    HACKING IS AN ACT OF WAR!!!!

    • MoralDrift

      So sayeth the all powerful Penta-god

  • Liam_McGonagle

    It’s hard to see what Fox News has to be angry about here.  Their viewership just believes whatteverthehell they wanna without regard to its source or patent implausibility anyhow. 

    Who gives a flying fuck what their ticker reads?  They’re an organization that obtained a court order allowing them, as an FCC licensee, to lie.

    • SF2K01

      Sounds like most people, don’t see why that makes FOX so unique.

      • Liam_McGonagle

        I admit that I have no idea how to interpret your comment at all.  It’s rather spare and cryptic.

        My first thought is that you believe all media, or at least the “mainstream” media are liars.  I don’t think that’s true.  At least they aren’t liars in the same way Fox News are liars.  I think they’re more often un-ideological but ethically comprimised incompetents who tend to acritically repeat whatever some tie-wearing ‘authority figure’ tells them.

        The end result may be the same in either case.  But I think Fox does deserve some special notice for its “leadership” in the field.  They’ve actually gotten a for-real Florida court to issue an order allowing them to lie, written in black and white.  I don’t think many or even any other FCC licensees have that amount of brass.

        • SF2K01

          It was mostly directed at the “Their viewership just believes whatteverthehell they wanna without regard to its source or patent implausibility anyhow” part of your post. People watching most news channels will pretty much accept whatever they’re told as they’ve picked whatever tells them what they want to hear, and in that regard FOX isn’t unique.

          All media outlets have their share of lies and every network has their bias whether it’s left wing or right that decide what meets their agenda. Heck, it’s pretty much their whole reason for broadcasting in the first place. The only ones I generally like try to get a mixture of different voices (Newsy news does a good job of that) so you can at least try to figure out the truth.

          • Liam_McGonagle

            You raise an interesting question in my mind:  To what extent is bullshit detection an art or a science? Or, maybe differently put:  Just how much and what kind of information do you need to attain a reasonable approximation of the truth?

            I read a lot into tone, body language as well as the consistency of the information presented with the type of information a reasonbly intelligent person would expect to come out of that type of story.  For example, way back when Fox News tried to push the idea that Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were secret lovers, I immediately balked.

            Everyone knows that Hussein was the leader of a secularist, authoritarian, nationalist party.  How fucking logical would it be for him to be pals with an extreme fundamentalist whose powerbase’s very existence is predicated on the destruction of exactly the type of state that Saddam’s life depended on?  Obvious bullshit.  And Fox News never even bothered to doll up some half-assed explanation to make that seem plausible.

            I think that for very many of the most important stories effecting us, it’s not even necessary to find some miraculous 100% wonderful news outlet.  If they bring it up at all, their lies or misstatements are usually so badly composed that it doesn’t take much candle power to figure out they’ve shit all over themselves.  Yet again.

          • SF2K01

            I’m going to have to say bullshit detection is a skill you have to figure out with enough time and logic in deducing people’s motives, regardless of whether you like what they say or not. You need information from everyone coming from every angle just to reconstruct a better idea of reality. The only benefit is that in our days we got pictures and video, but unfortunately even those are easily edited or even faked to show a different version of events.

            I can’t remember exactly who right now but there’s a story of a man who wanted to be a historian. Outside his house he heard a crash and walked outside to see what had happened. In asking people what occurred he got a different version of the events from every person he asked, so he went back inside and gave up on writing history. It’s like that, except I don’t agree on giving up, you have to take what everyone says and deconstruct it to attempt to figure out the best version you can get.

            As far as the Fox example goes, Fox is still a for profit news station. They have things they report well and crazy theories they bring out which sound good to the good chunk of their audience that will buy anything. I’ve found most other news stations resort to a different method. Instead of bringing out wacky theories that are blatantly made up, they just state opinions as fact without making a big deal about it (it is presented more like news and less like opinion and thus they subliminally try to get you to believe in it) and then they fail to report stories that may contradict these assumed truths. It’s not as flashy as Fox, but it’s equally deceitful.

        • E.B. Wolf

          Fox is just picking the lowest hanging fruit, so they can afford to be more blatant. But posing as a progressive/liberal who cares about the average person while still shilling for the globalist oligarchs takes a bit more finesse.

    • MoralDrift

      “They’re an organization that obtained a court order allowing them, as an FCC licensee, to lie.”

      I will never forget that, and neither should anyone else!

    • Liam_McGonagle

      A P.S. may be called for in explanation for my indifference to this action.

      Some months ago MoveOn announced the AmericanDream movement, which wanted to capitalize on the intense local energies that local progressives were generating out of their fights with right wing juntas in Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio.  I applauded that loudly.

      Since then, but not grabbing nearly as much media attention, there’s been some real encouraging developments in the “progressive” movement–though I use that word with trepidation and only for lack of a better term; the careers of Obama and Clinton have pretty much smeared an enormous fucking skid mark all over it.  I was particularly heartened to hear that Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, had made some very public remarks that he would no longer allow his organization to be a rubber stamp for anti-labor, anti-people policies like Obama’s.  Whether that means he comes up with an alternative party or candidate for the Democratic nomination is another question, though . . .

      But in this last couple of weeks I received some emails from MoveOn asking me to contribute to Obama’s campaign or sign a petition emploring him, the nominal leader of the Democratic party, to actually being supporting some historically Democratic policies.  This caused me to vomit all over my keyboard.

      Obama’s a worthless tool.  Many readers of Disinformation picked up on that long before me, but I finally caught on in December, after he did a 180, stabbed Sanders in the back and cut a millionaire tax cut giveaway deal with Boehner and McConnell.  We could discuss the precise levels of incompetence, stupidity and outright moral corruption that make up Obama, but that would never change the fact that he has completely thrown away the one essential attribute of any true leader:  Credibility.

      Apparently MoveOn hasn’t quite caught on to this yet.  Which is sad.  It basically suggests, if not says outright, that they’re so fucking stupid that they’re gonna waste all of their good will and resources on backing a proven loser.

      So forgive me if I’m not too keen on MoveOn at the moment.

      • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

        The social war between the left and right has always been around to muddle real issues. Naturally, and for various reasons, those groups that buttress the left-right paradigm will always get more publicity…. for now at least.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like most people, don’t see why that makes FOX so unique.

  • Anonymous

    We’re not broke.. everything is A-ok.. lets keep telling ourselves that and it might come true?

  • Anonymous

    We’re not broke.. everything is A-ok.. lets keep telling ourselves that and it might come true?

  • emc_0

    We’re not broke.. everything is A-ok.. lets keep telling ourselves that and it might come true?

    • Liam_McGonagle

      Yeah.  Everyone knows that when your problem is not enough capital flowing through the economy, the solution is a program of austerity and tax cuts to encourage hoarding cash into the fantasy forward-trading financial markets.

      Applying a tourniquet to the throat of a patient suffering from thirst is a prescription that only a certified Gee-nee-uss like Paul Ryan coudda thunk up.

    • Jimmy James

      Tax the rich. The only solution …..for patriots.

  • Valinora

    The hacking was completely sneaky and underhanded.

    I LOVE IT!

  • Valinora

    The hacking was completely sneaky and underhanded.

    I LOVE IT!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah.  Everyone knows that when your problem is not enough capital flowing through the economy, the solution is a program of austerity and tax cuts to encourage hoarding cash into the fantasy forward-trading financial markets.

    Applying a tourniquet to the throat of a patient suffering from thirst is a prescription that only a certified Gee-nee-uss like Paul Ryan coudda thunk up.

  • Anonymous

    “They’re an organization that obtained a court order allowing them, as an FCC licensee, to lie.”

    I will never forget that, and neither should anyone else!

  • Anonymous

    So sayeth the all powerful Penta-god

  • Anonymous

    I admit that I have no idea how to interpret your comment at all.  It’s rather spare and cryptic.

    My first thought is that you believe all media, or at least the “mainstream” media are liars.  I don’t think that’s true.  At least they aren’t liars in the same way Fox News are liars.  I think they’re more often un-ideological but ethically comprimised incompetents who tend to acritically repeat whatever some tie-wearing ‘authority figure’ tells them.

    The end result may be the same in either case.  But I think Fox does deserve some special notice for its “leadership” in the field.  They’ve actually gotten a for-real Florida court to issue an order allowing them to lie, written in black and white.  I don’t think many or even any other FCC licensees have that amount of brass.

  • Anonymous

    A P.S. may be called for in explanation for my indifference to this action.

    Some months ago MoveOn announced the AmericanDream movement, which wanted to capitalize on the intense local energies that local progressives were generating out of their fights with right wing juntas in Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio.  I applauded that loudly.

    Since then, but not grabbing nearly as much media attention, there’s been some real encouraging developments in the “progressive” movement–though I use that word with trepidation and only for lack of a better term; the careers of Obama and Clinton have pretty much smeared an enormous fucking skid mark all over it.  I was particularly heartened to hear that Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, had made some very public remarks that he would no longer allow his organization to be a rubber stamp for anti-labor, anti-people policies like Obama’s.  Whether that means he comes up with an alternative party or candidate for the Democratic nomination is another question, though . . .

    But in this last couple of weeks I received some emails from MoveOn asking me to contribute to Obama’s campaign or sign a petition emploring him, the nominal leader of the Democratic party, to actually being supporting some historically Democratic policies.  This caused me to vomit all over my keyboard.

    Obama’s a worthless tool.  Many readers of Disinformation picked up on that long before me, but I finally caught on in November, after he did a 180, stabbed Sanders in the back and cut a millionaire tax cut giveaway deal with Boehner and McConnell.  We could discuss the precise levels of incompetence, stupidity and outright moral corruption that make up Obama, but that would never change the fact that he has completely thrown away the one essential attribute of any true leader:  Credibility.

    Apparently MoveOn hasn’t quite caught on to this yet.  Which is sad.  It basically suggests, if not says outright, that they’re so fucking stupid that they’re gonna waste all of their good will and resources on backing a proven loser.

    So forgive me if I’m not too keen on MoveOn at the moment.

  • Thelazymonk

    Sorry guys, this video is a fake, Moveon.org admitted today or yesterday they created the fake video in order to draw more attention to their new project.  Fox News was not hacked by them…

  • Thelazymonk

    Sorry guys, this video is a fake, Moveon.org admitted today or yesterday they created the fake video in order to draw more attention to their new project.  Fox News was not hacked by them…

  • http://twitter.com/DustinMartian Dustin Martian

    Who let their obnoxious girlfriend in on this?

  • http://twitter.com/DustinMartian dustin.martian.

    Who let their obnoxious girlfriend in on this?

  • Anonymous

    It was mostly directed at the “Their viewership just believes whatteverthehell they wanna without regard to its source or patent implausibility anyhow” part of your post. People watching most news channels will pretty much accept whatever they’re told as they’ve picked whatever tells them what they want to hear, and in that regard FOX isn’t unique.

    All media outlets have their share of lies and every network has their bias whether it’s left wing or right that decide what meets their agenda. Heck, it’s pretty much their whole reason for broadcasting in the first place. The only ones I generally like try to get a mixture of different voices (Newsy news does a good job of that) so you can at least try to figure out the truth.

  • Anonymous

    You raise an interesting question in my mind:  To what extent is bullshit detection an art or a science? Or, maybe differently put:  Just how much and what kind of information do you need to attain a reasonable approximation of the truth?

    I read a lot into tone, body language as well as the consistency of the information presented with the type of information a reasonbly intelligent person would expect to come out of that type of story.  For example, way back when Fox News tried to push the idea that Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were secret lovers, I immediately balked.

    Everyone knows that Hussein was the leader of a secularist, authoritarian, nationalist party.  How fucking logical would it be for him to be pals with an extreme fundamentalist whose powerbase’s very existence is predicated on the destruction of exactly the type of state that Saddam’s life depended on?  Obvious bullshit.  And Fox News never even bothered to doll up some half-assed explanation to make that seem plausible.

    I think that for very many of the most important stories effecting us, it’s not even necessary to find some miraculous 100% wonderful news outlet.  If they bring it up at all, their lies or misstatements are usually so badly composed that it doesn’t take much candle power to figure out they’ve shit all over themselves.  Yet again.

  • Grooveboss

    the left win and right win are lying. Democrats are trying to horde all the money now for future campaign and the republicans are trying to gain control of the thrones so they can operate without money. One is turning into the other, or are they the same ummmm?

  • Grooveboss

    the left win and right win are lying. Democrats are trying to horde all the money now for future campaign and the republicans are trying to gain control of the thrones so they can operate without money. One is turning into the other, or are they the same ummmm?

    • Jin The Ninja

       well the country is ruled by the right. as in democrats are nowhere near being on the left. the national rhetoric is deeply positioned on right of center. This means there is no “left” being heard in the MSM or in any national politics. Save perhaps for Bernie Sanders, and sometimes Dennis Kucinich there are very few people who engage with any of the intellectual paradigms of the left. Therefore it is plausible to assume both mainstream parties are lying corporatist thugs.

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    The social war between the left and right has always been around to muddle real issues. Naturally, and for various reasons, those groups that buttress the left-right paradigm will always get more publicity…. for now at least.

  • Anonymous

    I’m going to have to say bullshit detection is a skill you have to figure out with enough time and logic in deducing people’s motives, regardless of whether you like what they say or not. You need information from everyone coming from every angle just to reconstruct a better idea of reality. The only benefit is that in our days we got pictures and video, but unfortunately even those are easily edited or even faked to show a different version of events.

    I can’t remember exactly who right now but there’s a story of a man who wanted to be a historian. Outside his house he heard a crash and walked outside to see what had happened. In asking people what occurred he got a different version of the events from every person he asked, so he went back inside and gave up on writing history. It’s like that, except I don’t agree on giving up, you have to take what everyone says and deconstruct it to attempt to figure out the best version you can get.As far as the Fox example goes, Fox is still a for profit news station. They have things they report well and crazy theories they bring out which sound good to the good chunk of their audience that will buy anything. I’ve found most other news stations resort to a different method. Instead of bringing out wacky theories that are blatantly made up, they just state opinions as fact without making a big deal about it (it is presented more like news and less like opinion and thus they subliminally try to get you to believe in it) and then they fail to report stories that may contradict these assumed truths. It’s not as flashy as Fox, but it’s equally deceitful.

  • mattey

    Narration kinda kills the mood.

  • mattey

    Narration kinda kills the mood.

  • http://profiles.google.com/saintzedofourlostyouth R Z

     well the country is ruled by the right. as in democrats are nowhere near being on the left. the national rhetoric is deeply positioned on right of center. This means there is no “left” being heard in the MSM or in any national politics. Save perhaps for Bernie Sanders, and sometimes Dennis Kucinich there are very few people who engage with any of the intellectual paradigms of the left. Therefore it is plausible to assume both mainstream parties are lying corporatist thugs.

  • E.B. Wolf

    Fox is just picking the lowest hanging fruit, so they can afford to be more blatant. But posing as a progressive/liberal who cares about the average person while still shilling for the globalist oligarchs takes a bit more finesse.

  • Markov Cheney
    • Jimmy James

      Kind of stuff works ok for Breitbart!

  • Markov Cheney
  • Jimmy James

    Got the right idea! Only THE PEOPLE should work to take BACK the PUBLIC airwaves (radio and tv)

  • Jimmy James

    Got the right idea! Only THE PEOPLE should work to take BACK the PUBLIC airwaves (radio and tv)

  • Jimmy James

    Tax the rich. The only solution …..for patriots.

  • Jimmy James

    Kind of stuff works ok for Breitbart!

  • Tuna Ghost

    HACK THE PLANET

    (sorry, I’ve been on an ironic Hackers binge for a while now)

  • Tuna Ghost

    HACK THE PLANET

    (sorry, I’ve been on an ironic Hackers binge for a while now)

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