Salfate: Having Fun With Conspiracy Theories

One of the problems with American conspiracy theorists is that they’re mostly so damned serious that they’re just not as much fun to watch as their establisment counterparts (think Fox News), unless you find humor in an Alex Jones rant. Not so in Chile, where the TV host Salfate brings a smile to some serious questions about what’s going on in the world. Last week he covered the recent Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland, giving Jones a major shout out:

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  • cosmicserpent

    What do you guys think about Alex Jones? I’m curious.

    • Hadrian999

      he can be entertaining to listen to sometimes but i have heard his white christian supremacy slip to the surface too many times to take him seriously

    • Yith

      Sometimes there is a grain of truth in what he says, but he and his prisonplanet-infowars confidants exaggerate and twist it beyond all recognition; other times they just spin innuendo as if it were fact (e.g. the various `birther’ pieces they ran).

      If you want decent alternative news try Democracy Now!.  It too has its biases and exaggerations, but they are much tamer than Jones’s shows by comparison; and in any case, DN mostly just presents interviews, prompted with spare, not overly biased questions.

  • Anonymous

    What do you guys think about Alex Jones? I’m curious.

  • Hadrian999

    he can be entertaining to listen to sometimes but i have heard his white christian supremacy slip to the surface too many times to take him seriously

  • Yith

    Sometimes there is a grain of truth in what he says, but he and his prisonplanet-infowars confidants exaggerate and twist it beyond all recognition; other times they just spin innuendo as if it were fact (e.g. the various `birther’ pieces they ran).

    If you want decent alternative news try Democracy Now!.  It too has its biases and exaggerations, but they are much tamer than Jones’s shows by comparison; and in any case, DN mostly just presents interviews, prompted with spare, not overly biased questions.

  • cosmicserpent

    I want people to start talking about Robert Anton Wilson again. The man contributed to Disinformation in the good ol’ days. He’s even in the Disinfo DVDs plus the conference – DisinfoCon. The man dissected most of the conspiracy theories out there, and he taught people how to use Maybe Logic. Here’s a link to this great man’s insights surrounding conspiracy theories:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1422743250837892881#docid=-8789989561433328024

    • Yith

      RAW WAS great, wasn’t he?  Or perhaps I should render this in E-prime as “RAW gave me joy.”

      As good as he was, I don’t know of a single philosophy he wrote or spoke about (outside of fiction) that was originally due to him.  E-prime, for example (and “maybe logic”) was due to Bourland (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime ).  Where WIlson really shined, it seems to me, was in the presentation:  laughing Buddha bearing wisdom; charismatic stand up comic; elegant witty writing style.

      As to some of his comments about conspiracy theories, one of best, simplest comments I heard him make was how many people don’t understand the differnce between a proof and an opinion.  They listen to their favorite TV-radio-internet commentator deliver line after line of “World War III is imminent”, “Obama is was not born in the USA”, “Climategate proves GW is a fraud”, and they just accept what they hear… never stopping to ask, “Wait!… what did he say?  And how does he know that?… How did he arrive at that conclusion?”

      How much of our day-to-day thinking is logical?  Bear in mind that even the cleverest and wittiest among us can be illogical — a good imagination, verbal Kung Fu and strong perception are only part of the equation.

  • Anonymous

    I want people to start talking about Robert Anton Wilson again. The man contributed to Disinformation in the good ol’ days. He’s even in the Disinfo DVDs plus the conference – DisinfoCon. The man dissected most of the conspiracy theories out there, and he taught people how to use Maybe Logic. Here’s a link to this great man’s insights surrounding conspiracy theories:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1422743250837892881#docid=-8789989561433328024

  • Namelesswon

    WAKE UP PEOPLE. THESE BUILDERBURGER SATANISTS ARE COMING TO A WORKSHOP NEAR YOU;

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshutterchick/1426007670/

  • Namelesswon

    WAKE UP PEOPLE. THESE BUILDERBURGER SATANISTS ARE COMING TO A WORKSHOP NEAR YOU;

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/theshutterchick/1426007670/

  • Eldritch

    Alex Jones does not deserve to be a Bill Hicks lookalike. And like comicserpent says, go read your Robert Anton Wilson folks. That’s some mind-blowing shit.

  • Eldritch

    Alex Jones does not deserve to be a Bill Hicks lookalike. And like comicserpent says, go read your Robert Anton Wilson folks. That’s some mind-blowing shit.

  • Yith

    RAW WAS great, wasn’t he?  Or perhaps I should render this in E-prime as “RAW gave me joy.”

    As good as he was, I don’t know of a single philosophy he wrote or spoke about (outside of fiction) that was originally due to him.  E-prime, for example (and “maybe logic”) was due to Bourland (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime ).  Where WIlson really shined, it seems to me, was in the presentation:  laughing Buddha bearing wisdom; charismatic stand up comic; elegant witty writing style.

    As to some of his comments about conspiracy theories, one of best, simplest comments I heard him make was how many people don’t understand the differnce between a proof and an opinion.  They listen to their favorite TV-radio-internet commentator deliver line after line of “World War III is imminent”, “Obama is was not born in the USA”, “Climategate proves GW is a fraud”, and they just accept what they hear… never stopping to ask, “Wait!… what did he say?  And how does he know that?… How did he arrive at that conclusion?”

    How much of our day-to-day thinking is logical?  Bear in mind that even the cleverest and wittiest among us can be illogical — a good imagination, verbal Kung Fu and strong perception are only part of the equation.