Terrorist ‘Pre-Crime’ Detector Has Been Field Tested in the U.S.

Hmm, do the results even matter or is this something we’ll see anyway in the near future? Sharon Weinberger wrote recently in Nature News:

Planning a sojourn in the northeastern United States? You could soon be taking part in a novel security programme that can supposedly ‘sense’ whether you are planning to commit a crime.

Future Attribute Screening Technology (FAST), a US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) programme designed to spot people who are intending to commit a terrorist act, has in the past few months completed its first round of field tests at an undisclosed location in the northeast, Nature has learned.

Like a lie detector, FAST measures a variety of physiological indicators, ranging from heart rate to the steadiness of a person’s gaze, to judge a subject’s state of mind. But there are major differences from the polygraph. FAST relies on non-contact sensors, so it can measure indicators as someone walks through a corridor at an airport, and it does not depend on active questioning of the subject.

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72 Responses to Terrorist ‘Pre-Crime’ Detector Has Been Field Tested in the U.S.

  1. SF2K01 June 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm #

    They’d improve their chances if they just focused on the people who are loudly announcing they want to commit terrorist acts instead of harassing random citizens who have such a name or such an indicator. It’s not like terrorists have a history of secrecy about wanting to do what they do.

  2. Anonymous June 19, 2011 at 8:27 pm #

    They’d improve their chances if they just focused on the people who are loudly announcing they want to commit terrorist acts instead of harassing random citizens who have such a name or such an indicator. It’s not like terrorists have a history of secrecy about wanting to do what they do.

  3. cosmicserpent June 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm #

    Well..I’d be stopped a lot because most of the time I have chronic anxiety. Second, this shit sounds too much like Minority Report.

    • Paulwhitehurst247 June 25, 2011 at 5:17 pm #

      i think your right…next step…..time cop

  4. Anonymous June 19, 2011 at 9:21 pm #

    Well..I’d be stopped a lot because most of the time I have chronic anxiety. Second, this shit sounds too much like Minority Report.

  5. RMD June 19, 2011 at 5:39 pm #

    How about setting it up at the next Tea Party event?  Oh, wait, white christian terrorists are just “domestic unrest”, not “terrorists”

    • Cees Timmerman June 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm #

      The FBI recently invited the Westboro Baptists as an example of (domestic) terrorist groups.

  6. RMD June 19, 2011 at 9:39 pm #

    How about setting it up at the next Tea Party event?  Oh, wait, white christian terrorists are just “domestic unrest”, not “terrorists”

  7. Tio Holtzman June 19, 2011 at 6:14 pm #

    Kill it with fire.

  8. Tio Holtzman June 19, 2011 at 10:14 pm #

    Kill it with fire.

  9. Billmasin585 June 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm #

    Does every modular trailer come with a man who sounds like Napoleon Dynamite interrogating?

  10. Billmasin585 June 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm #

    Does every modular trailer come with a man who sounds like Napoleon Dynamite interrogating?

  11. BuzzCoastin June 19, 2011 at 10:07 pm #

    No doubt the precogs have already seen this.

  12. BuzzCoastin June 20, 2011 at 2:07 am #

    No doubt the precogs have already seen this.

  13. Diehard June 19, 2011 at 10:28 pm #

    Interesting, bad news is these “toys” only work in the hands of trained pros. The moment we rely on them we loose our pros, and they in turn become ineffective. The best investigator I know refuses to use a poly-graph to interrogate because they are inefficient, we are a long way from replacing man.

    • Ajsilver42 June 26, 2011 at 4:39 pm #

      Great point!  It is interesting that they’d waste such valuable resources looking for copyright infringement(I don’t know how many state secrets will be shown at the ‘expo’).  There is an argument of ‘while we’re at it we might as well police the area most effectively’, but there is also the consequence that content distributors would jointly sponsor this homeland security operation for such copyright control. 
      So I’m sure with corporate sponsorship these programs could be properly staffed.

  14. Diehard June 20, 2011 at 2:28 am #

    Interesting, bad news is these “toys” only work in the hands of trained pros. The moment we rely on them we loose our pros, and they in turn become ineffective. The best investigator I know refuses to use a poly-graph to interrogate because they are inefficient, we are a long way from replacing man.

  15. Dogpeople June 19, 2011 at 10:38 pm #

    Score another one for Philip k. Dick

  16. Dogpeople June 20, 2011 at 2:38 am #

    Score another one for Philip k. Dick

  17. Vic Bramble June 19, 2011 at 10:55 pm #

    I don’t know whether to facepalm or rant about 1984 and the thought police.

    • DeepCough June 27, 2011 at 2:07 am #

      That’s the thing with sci-fi dystopian novels: they’re less fiction and more like newsletters of things already happening, 1984 was no exception.

      • Padraig June 30, 2011 at 2:59 pm #

        well said, can’t think of anything from orwell’s book that has not been implemented in the UK

  18. Vic Bramble June 20, 2011 at 2:55 am #

    I don’t know whether to facepalm or rant about 1984 and the thought police.

  19. Grooveboss June 20, 2011 at 9:39 am #

    Meh probably does not work. Just a plot to make people believe they have technology ahead of its time or completely fantastic. Like how signs prevent crimes all the time without much man power, like a fake beware of the dog sign. 

  20. Grooveboss June 20, 2011 at 9:39 am #

    or the fake home security sign or fake cameras that just have blinking LED 

  21. Grooveboss June 20, 2011 at 5:39 am #

    Meh probably does not work. Just a plot to make people believe they have technology ahead of its time or completely fantastic. Like how signs prevent crimes all the time without much man power, like a fake beware of the dog sign. 

    • Grooveboss June 20, 2011 at 5:39 am #

      or the fake home security sign or fake cameras that just have blinking LED 

  22. Joseph June 20, 2011 at 1:34 pm #

    Wait, recording devices? I don’t think DHS is enforcing copyright… why would they be concerned about recording?

  23. Joseph June 20, 2011 at 9:34 am #

    Wait, recording devices? I don’t think DHS is enforcing copyright… why would they be concerned about recording?

  24. Joshua Maslansky June 20, 2011 at 2:08 pm #

    Soylent green is people!!!

  25. Joshua Maslansky June 20, 2011 at 10:08 am #

    Soylent green is people!!!

  26. Namelesswon June 20, 2011 at 3:02 pm #

    phillip k dick needs to come back and sue some ass.

  27. Namelesswon June 20, 2011 at 11:02 am #

    phillip k dick needs to come back and sue some ass.

  28. a i June 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm #

    Being nervous is a crime. Hope you don’t have any dates or job interviews coming up.

  29. a i June 20, 2011 at 11:13 am #

    Being nervous is a crime. Hope you don’t have any dates or job interviews coming up.

  30. Allie June 20, 2011 at 9:23 pm #

    And to think, we never had technology like this before. It’s not like you could, you know, look a person in the eye and have a conversation and tell if they were shitting bricks about doing something illegal. In Israel, they just have conversations – and it works way better than this stuff.

  31. Allie June 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm #

    And to think, we never had technology like this before. It’s not like you could, you know, look a person in the eye and have a conversation and tell if they were shitting bricks about doing something illegal. In Israel, they just have conversations – and it works way better than this stuff.

    • Ajsilver42 June 26, 2011 at 4:44 pm #

      Israel is a much smaller and more unified country than the US.  It is important that Israeli security measures cost as little as possible in lost productivity and money to their economy.  It is also imperative that Israel develop it’s own Homeland Security almost upon its’ inception.
      So yes, I agree that it is a more effective technique, but not perhaps one that the US could accept as such a fractured and paranoid government.

  32. Sonnyterpez June 21, 2011 at 1:44 am #

    has no one read 1984…. thought crimes anyone?

  33. Sonnyterpez June 20, 2011 at 9:44 pm #

    has no one read 1984…. thought crimes anyone?

    • The Doctor June 21, 2011 at 2:09 pm #

      Apparently, enough people who thought it was a good idea read it.

  34. Anonymous June 21, 2011 at 6:09 pm #

    Apparently, enough people who thought it was a good idea read it.

  35. Paulwhitehurst247 June 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm #

    i think your right…next step…..time cop

  36. Paulwhitehurst247 June 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm #

    i think your right…next step…..time cop

  37. Penguins4life June 25, 2011 at 5:36 pm #

    Well shit, make one that detects when babies are about to take a shit and we dont need diaper anymore. Hell put them at stop lights…why stop there>! Detect when people are being stupid or smart, sarcastic or serious…

  38. Penguins4life June 25, 2011 at 9:36 pm #

    Well shit, make one that detects when babies are about to take a shit and we dont need diaper anymore. Hell put them at stop lights…why stop there>! Detect when people are being stupid or smart, sarcastic or serious…

  39. Myname June 26, 2011 at 12:35 pm #

    DHS or the Gestapo? Not much difference there.

  40. Myname June 26, 2011 at 8:35 am #

    DHS or the Gestapo? Not much difference there.

  41. Ajsilver42 June 26, 2011 at 8:39 pm #

    Great point!  It is interesting that they’d waste such valuable resources looking for copyright infringement(I don’t know how many state secrets will be shown at the ‘expo’).  There is an argument of ‘while we’re at it we might as well police the area most effectively’, but there is also the consequence that content distributors would jointly sponsor this homeland security operation for such copyright control. 
    So I’m sure with corporate sponsorship these programs could be properly staffed.

  42. Ajsilver42 June 26, 2011 at 8:39 pm #

    Great point!  It is interesting that they’d waste such valuable resources looking for copyright infringement(I don’t know how many state secrets will be shown at the ‘expo’).  There is an argument of ‘while we’re at it we might as well police the area most effectively’, but there is also the consequence that content distributors would jointly sponsor this homeland security operation for such copyright control. 
    So I’m sure with corporate sponsorship these programs could be properly staffed.

  43. Ajsilver42 June 26, 2011 at 8:44 pm #

    Israel is a much smaller and more unified country than the US.  It is important that Israeli security measures cost as little as possible in lost productivity and money to their economy.  It is also imperative that Israel develop it’s own Homeland Security almost upon its’ inception.
    So yes, I agree that it is a more effective technique, but not perhaps one that the US could accept as such a fractured and paranoid government.

  44. Skuta June 26, 2011 at 9:31 pm #

    they WISH!
    looks more like psy-ops disinfo to herd the sheeple into docile compliance by thinking they are being watched under some imaginary black-magic-super-duper-police-stasi-big-brother-borg-surveillance, and resistance is futile.
    refuse to be intimidated by these a$$holes!!!

  45. Skuta June 26, 2011 at 5:31 pm #

    they WISH!
    looks more like psy-ops disinfo to herd the sheeple into docile compliance by thinking they are being watched under some imaginary black-magic-super-duper-police-stasi-big-brother-borg-surveillance, and resistance is futile.
    refuse to be intimidated by these a$$holes!!!

  46. SaTEARical June 26, 2011 at 11:49 pm #

    So you don’t want your plane to explode, nor do you want racial profiling.  You don’t want to be screened for bombs.  Now you are freaked out that a machine detects physiological signs of stress to indicate who might need a few questions asked of them?
    Get over it.  Stop acting like children and complaining about every solution when you don’t have any better ideas.

  47. SaTEARical June 26, 2011 at 7:49 pm #

    So you don’t want your plane to explode, nor do you want racial profiling.  You don’t want to be screened for bombs.  Now you are freaked out that a machine detects physiological signs of stress to indicate who might need a few questions asked of them?
    Get over it.  Stop acting like children and complaining about every solution when you don’t have any better ideas.

  48. William Jeffrey Miller June 27, 2011 at 12:50 am #

    talk is cheap people action is needed. Get out in the streets and protest.

  49. William Jeffrey Miller June 27, 2011 at 4:50 am #

    talk is cheap people action is needed. Get out in the streets and protest.

  50. DeepCough June 27, 2011 at 6:07 am #

    That’s the thing with sci-fi dystopian novels: they’re less fiction and more like newsletters of things already happening, 1984 was no exception.

  51. Louis June 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm #

    Would it detect that you were going to participate in an act of civil disobedience when you got to your destination?Would it detect if you were a whistleblower?Having
    the government act because of detecting potential deception would give
    them the power to restrict the movements of those who resist them.Pat
    Downs, Sky Marshalls, and bomb sniffing dogs will stop most terrorists.
    That and not letting intelligence geniuses like Michael Leiter NCTC let
    terrorists come into the country so we can follow them.

  52. Louis June 28, 2011 at 6:10 pm #

    Would it detect that you were going to participate in an act of civil disobedience when you got to your destination?Would it detect if you were a whistleblower?Having
    the government act because of detecting potential deception would give
    them the power to restrict the movements of those who resist them.Pat
    Downs, Sky Marshalls, and bomb sniffing dogs will stop most terrorists.
    That and not letting intelligence geniuses like Michael Leiter NCTC let
    terrorists come into the country so we can follow them.

  53. Psychologicalindustries June 30, 2011 at 3:16 am #

    Not really news if you have been paying attention the last ten years, its all matter of fact DARPA protocols developed after the Patriot Act went into effect… I dont expect V for Vendetta Halloween masks to stop selling anytime soon…

  54. Psychologicalindustries June 30, 2011 at 7:16 am #

    Not really news if you have been paying attention the last ten years, its all matter of fact DARPA protocols developed after the Patriot Act went into effect… I dont expect V for Vendetta Halloween masks to stop selling anytime soon…

  55. Cees Timmerman June 30, 2011 at 6:02 pm #

    The FBI recently invited the Westboro Baptists as an example of (domestic) terrorist groups.

  56. Padraig June 30, 2011 at 6:59 pm #

    well said, can’t think of anything from orwell’s book that has not been implemented in the UK

  57. Bob July 3, 2011 at 3:24 pm #

    About the most unAmerican thing I’ve ever seen.  To save our budget and our country, entirely eliminate DHS and their fascist presumption of guilt machines.

  58. Bob July 3, 2011 at 7:24 pm #

    About the most unAmerican thing I’ve ever seen.  To save our budget and our country, entirely eliminate DHS and their fascist presumption of guilt machines.

  59. Anonononon July 5, 2011 at 11:34 pm #

    This is a bad system because it trains terrorists to exercise control over their body functions, something that will make them even harder to spot, and over the long run, much much better spies. Use people, not machines for this sort of work. It is also far too easy to use this system for things other than the stated intention.

  60. Anonononon July 6, 2011 at 3:34 am #

    This is a bad system because it trains terrorists to exercise control over their body functions, something that will make them even harder to spot, and over the long run, much much better spies. Use people, not machines for this sort of work. It is also far too easy to use this system for things other than the stated intention.

  61. Anonymustime July 6, 2011 at 11:39 am #

    This is just another instrument to justify unnecesary arrests and to move forward with the  sistematical stimulation of paranoid and neurotic noth american population. You people should start revolting before your goverment turn your brains into guacamole and your civil rights into toilet paper. ANONYMUS

  62. Anonymustime July 6, 2011 at 3:39 pm #

    This is just another instrument to justify unnecesary arrests and to move forward with the  sistematical stimulation of paranoid and neurotic noth american population. You people should start revolting before your goverment turn your brains into guacamole and your civil rights into toilet paper. ANONYMUS

  63. Leeloo July 6, 2011 at 4:52 pm #

    “Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.” – Ben Franklin

  64. Leeloo July 6, 2011 at 8:52 pm #

    “Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.” – Ben Franklin

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