• Haystack

    I just assume that, in order to get into Congress you have to be a lying sleazebag, so when one of them gets caught doing something like this I’m utterly indifferent. If anything, I’m more critical of the way his fellow Democrats just threw him overboard. 

    • Liam_McGonagle

      Agree on all counts.  But the question does deserve more exploration, methinks. 

      We get it that the national Democratic Party are composed of a blend of disingenuous weak-kneed incomputards who’d fukc up a wet dream, assuming they had the testes requisite to do that much.  We become so bored with the whole kabuki phoniness of the thing that we naturally turn our attention to other, more seemingly worthy topics, like . . . like . . . like you name it.  Just anything to take our eyes off of the rape of American democracy.

      That’s not a very satisfying response for me.  I do make efforts to round out my experience so that I don’t become a total monomaniacal boor, but I don’t leave for very long the mystery of how such a fantastically uncharismatic party (on the NATIONAL–not state or local levels) has managed to avoid complete disintegration for the last 30 years.

      My current guess:  Democrats skew higher in terms of I.Q.

      Here’s the hypothesis: Typical Democrat has greater ability to abstract, and therefore find comfortable position in an economy that values those skills–but at middle management or professional levels, not the uppermost echelons of the corporate kingdom.  The corner office requires more raw blood lust than anything else.

      And the puppet masters at the top have just enough animal cunning to realise that their intellectually superior underlings are more than happy to create the elaborate bullshit rationalizations for their own slavery anyhow.  Whether or not middle manager realize it, there is a powerful ego stroke available to them in creating new, more complex theoretical explanations for his policy failures.  In a way that’s radically perverse for self-proclaimed “tribunes of the plebs”, it’s like a badge of honor to be able to fool the peasants into voting for failure time and time again.

      Just look at the rhetorical focus of each party:
      1.  Republicans-faux populism blaming failure of THEIR policies on Democrats
      2.  Democrats-abstract policy statements that are usually rationalized and watered down to uselessness in the legislature, and totally fly over their audience’s head anyhow.

      We need a vicious Huey Long for the 21st century.

      • Micho_rizo

        I think I agree with a lot of what you’re saying but I can’t tell because you’re only semi-coherent….

        • Liam_McGonagle

          Or maybe it’s your reading skills that need brushing up?  In the communications process, there is no circuit without decode.  I suggest you get to work on that.

          • Grooveboss

            oh burn and burn its all facade 

      • Simiantongue

        Well said. Replace “The corner office requires more raw blood lust” with “The corner office requires more sociopathy” and I’m with you 100%. Raw blood lust is too flattering.

      • Hadrian999

        the problem with the entire system is that it depends on those who benefit most from the status quo to change it, once you are on the inside, riding the gravy train who wants to change anything and the few that actually try get a nice media managed scandal to fit them in a nice wingnut or pervert jacket. mea.nwhile the party games continue on and the players get rich

        • Liam_McGonagle

          Fair play.  But there is always room for a true genius–though their extreme scarcity makes an appearance less predictable than The Rapture.

          Huey Long seems to have been a for-real populist and pervert.  He played that Louisianna eccentric thing for all it was worth and it got him pretty far.  Hey may not have been an altar boy or walked on water exactly, but he could be pretty f*cking effective when called upon.

          I hold no such hopes for Ron Paul.  His call to legalize prostitution was a good and daring opening gambit.  But the incoherence of his economic program leads me to keep looking elsewhere.

  • Haystack

    I just assume that, in order to get into Congress you have to be a lying sleazebag, so when one of them gets caught doing something like this I’m utterly indifferent. If anything, I’m more critical of the way his fellow Democrats just threw him overboard. 

  • Anonymous

    Agree on all counts.  But the question does deserve more exploration, methinks. 

    We get it that the national Democratic Party are composed of a blend of disingenuous weak-kneed incomputards who’d fukc up a wet dream, assuming they had the testes requisite to do that much.  We become so bored with the whole kabuki phoniness of the thing that we naturally turn our attention to other, more seemingly worthy topics, like . . . like . . . like you name it.  Just anything to take our eyes off of the rape of American democracy.

    That’s not a very satisfying response for me.  I do make efforts to round out my experience so that I don’t become a total monomaniacal boor, but I don’t leave for very long the mystery of how such a fantastically uncharismatic party (on the NATIONAL–not state or local levels) has managed to avoid complete disintegration for the last 30 years.

    My current guess:  Democrats skew higher in terms of I.Q.

    Here’s the hypothesis: Typical Democrat has greater ability to abstract, and therefore find comfortable position in an economy that values those skills–but at middle management or professional levels, not the uppermost echelons of the corporate kingdom.  The corner office requires more raw blood lust than anything else.

    And the puppet masters at the top have just enough animal cunning to realise that  his intellectually superior underlings are more than happy to create the elaborate bullshit rationalizations for their own slavery anyhow.  Whether or not middle manager realize it, there is a powerful ego stroke available to them in creating new, more complex theoretical explanations for his policy failures.  In a way that’s radically perverse for self-proclaimed “tribunes of the plebs”, it’s like a badge of honor to be able to fool the peasants into voting for failure time and time again.

    Just look at the rhetorical focus of each party:
    1.  Republicans-faux populism blaming failure of THEIR policies on Democrats
    2.  Democrats-abstract policy statements that are usually rationalized and watered down to uselessness in the legislature, and totally fly over their audience’s head anyhow.

    We need a vicious Huey Long for the 21st century.

  • Micho_rizo

    I think I agree with a lot of what you’re saying but I can’t tell because you’re only semi-coherent….

  • Anonymous

    Or maybe it’s your reading skills that need brushing up?  In the communications process, there is no circuit without decode.  I suggest you get to work on that.

  • Honu

    I think there’s something else about Weiner that may be overlooked with why he got so much heat.  He’s an idealogue and very hard on republicans publicly and gives no ground ever.  He was a pit bull with republican hypocricy and that not only pissed of the repubs but probably the dems too.  It doesn’t seem he was well liked by his colleagues.   The dems probably don’t want a guy who will rock the boat of their willow spine tactics in cahoots with the republicans so all of a sudden a perfectly legal if not lewd ‘scandal’ appears and it’s an opportunity to try to kick him out.  It sucks.  Weiner was one of the stronger voices in the house and he should have known better. 

     

    • Liam_McGonagle

      Maybe this whole bullshit Breitbart-O’Keefe circle jerk can be effectively neutralized by just running an openly perverted candidate going forward.

    • justagirl

      lol you said “hard on”.

  • Honu

    I think there’s something else about Weiner that may be overlooked with why he got so much heat.  He’s an idealogue and very hard on republicans publicly and gives no ground ever.  He was a pit bull with republican hypocricy and that not only pissed of the repubs but probably the dems too.  It doesn’t seem he was well liked by his colleagues.   The dems probably don’t want a guy who will rock the boat of their willow spine tactics in cahoots with the republicans so all of a sudden a perfectly legal if not lewd ‘scandal’ appears and it’s an opportunity to try to kick him out.  It sucks.  Weiner was one of the stronger voices in the house and he should have known better. 

     

  • Anonymous

    Maybe this whole bullshit Breitbart-O’Keefe circle jerk can be effectively neutralized by just running an openly perverted candidate going forward.

  • Simiantongue

    Well said. Replace “The corner office requires more raw blood lust” with “The corner office requires more sociopathy” and I’m with you 100%. Raw blood lust is too flattering.

  • justagirl

    lol you said “hard on”.

  • Grooveboss

    oh burn and burn its all facade 

  • Hadrian999

    the problem with the entire system is that it depends on those who benefit most from the status quo to change it, once you are on the inside, riding the gravy train who wants to change anything and the few that actually try get a nice media managed scandal to fit them in a nice wingnut or pervert jacket. mea.nwhile the party games continue on and the players get rich

  • Anonymous

    Fair play.  But there is always room for a true genius–though their extreme scarcity makes an appearance less predictable than The Rapture.

    Huey Long seems to have been a for-real populist and pervert.  He played that Louisianna eccentric thing for all it was worth and it got him pretty far.  Hey may not have been an altar boy or walked on water exactly, but he could be pretty f*cking effective when called upon.

    I hold no such hopes for Ron Paul.  His call to legalize prostitution was a good and daring opening gambit.  But the incoherence of his economic program leads me to keep looking elsewhere.

  • 5by5

    He never should have resigned. He should have just laughed at the Puritanical asshats who were giving him crap over some irrelevancy that only half a million OTHER men AND women have done and which has NO BEARING ON HOW HE DOES HIS JOB, and then followed up his laughter at them with the following comment:”I’LL RESIGN WHEN DAVID VITTER (who actually broke the law by visiting a prostitute) RESIGNS.”Unlike these self-righteous Republicans, Congressman Weiner never set himself up as some moralist over other people’s private sex lives. He wasn’t a hypocrite, and in fact is only resigning BECAUSE at his core, he’s a good and honest man.And shame on every Democrat who didn’t stand by him and defend him against a flaming douchebag like Andrew Breibart.To hell with anyone who spews that “But we have to hold our guys to a higher standard,” crap. Congressman Weiner BROKE NO LAW, and he only took a vow to uphold the Constitution – not a vow of celibacy. And furthermore, no way in HELL does casual bullshit on the interwebs count as infidelity. Give me a serious break. NOTHING on the net is real — THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT. This is like giving the Congressman shit over wacking off in private to a Playboy. It’s fantasy. It’s totally natural human sexuality. According to anyone who’s seen them together, Congressman Weiner is totally in love with his wife.I’d rather him get his release there, than get all pent up and become a sexually repressed psychotic like Dick Cheney who has to fire off an entirely different kind of missile to get off.Congressman Anthony Weiner was a fantastic Congressman who actually gave a damn about ordinary people, and worked tirelessly to make people’s lives better. He actually believed in public service and wanted to make this country a better place. That’s why the Republicans attacked him. Because he’s good, and they know far too many Americans are immature goobers who’ll throw him under the bus in order to seem righteous themselves.THAT goodness IN HIS JOB is what we just lost to people’s juvenile, uptight, junior high, giggley schoolgirl foolishness.It’s not Anthony Weiner who should be ashamed. It’s every nitwit who urged him to resign.The only thing he should regret, is giving in to the bullies rather than telling them to F*CK OFF and GET A LIFE.

  • 5by5

    He never should have resigned. He should have just laughed at the Puritanical asshats who were giving him crap over some irrelevancy that only half a million OTHER men AND women have done and which has NO BEARING ON HOW HE DOES HIS JOB, and then followed up his laughter at them with the following comment:”I’LL RESIGN WHEN DAVID VITTER (who actually broke the law by visiting a prostitute) RESIGNS.”Unlike these self-righteous Republicans, Congressman Weiner never set himself up as some moralist over other people’s private sex lives. He wasn’t a hypocrite, and in fact is only resigning BECAUSE at his core, he’s a good and honest man.And shame on every Democrat who didn’t stand by him and defend him against a flaming douchebag like Andrew Breibart.To hell with anyone who spews that “But we have to hold our guys to a higher standard,” crap. Congressman Weiner BROKE NO LAW, and he only took a vow to uphold the Constitution – not a vow of celibacy. And furthermore, no way in HELL does casual bullshit on the interwebs count as infidelity. Give me a serious break. NOTHING on the net is real — THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT. This is like giving the Congressman shit over wacking off in private to a Playboy. It’s fantasy. It’s totally natural human sexuality. According to anyone who’s seen them together, Congressman Weiner is totally in love with his wife.I’d rather him get his release there, than get all pent up and become a sexually repressed psychotic like Dick Cheney who has to fire off an entirely different kind of missile to get off.Congressman Anthony Weiner was a fantastic Congressman who actually gave a damn about ordinary people, and worked tirelessly to make people’s lives better. He actually believed in public service and wanted to make this country a better place. That’s why the Republicans attacked him. Because he’s good, and they know far too many Americans are immature goobers who’ll throw him under the bus in order to seem righteous themselves.THAT goodness IN HIS JOB is what we just lost to people’s juvenile, uptight, junior high, giggley schoolgirl foolishness.It’s not Anthony Weiner who should be ashamed. It’s every nitwit who urged him to resign.The only thing he should regret, is giving in to the bullies rather than telling them to F*CK OFF and GET A LIFE.

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