California Prisoners Stage Hunger Strike Over Conditions

Pelican Bay Hunger StrikeDavid Edwards writes on The Raw Story:

Between 50 and 100 inmates in solitary confinement at California’s Pelican Bay State Prison have pledged to refuse to eat until officials agree to better conditions.

Isaac Ontiveros of the anti-prison group Critical Resistance explained the prisoners’ demands to DemocracyNow.

“End the use of group punishment and administrative abuse; abolish the debriefing policy and modify active/inactive gang status criteria; comply with the commission on safety and abuse in America’s prisons 2006 recommendations regarding an end to long-term solitary confinement; provide adequate and nutritious food; and expand and provide constructive programming and privileges for indefinite SHU status inmates.”

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  • BuzzCoastin

    The Homeland of the Free imprisons more of its citizens than any country in the world, both in total numbers and as a percentage of the population.  It also imprisons more of other countries citizens than any country in the world.

    Way to go USA! You’re #1! You’re #1!

    • SF2K01

      There’s a grand total of 2.3 million people in prison, i.e. less than 1 percent, 0.76% to be exact. So instead of using scary sounding phrases like the US imprisons more people than anyone else (if that’s even true, I can’t find any data on China), stop and think how small that number really is. If we didn’t have so many people in jail due to the pointless “war on drugs” we’d be much further down that list.

      • BuzzCoastin

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_prison_population

        Country Prison population per 100,000 inhabitants

        United Statesof America
        756
        Russian Federation
        611
        New Zealand
        186
        United Kingdom
        148
        Netherlands
        128
        Australia
        124.5
        Canada
        107
        Italy
        104
        South Korea
        104
        Ireland
        101
        Germany
        95
        Turkey
        91
        France
        85
        Sweden
        82
        Denmark
        77
        Japan
        62
        Iceland
        40
        India
        22

        • SF2K01

          Yes and as you’ll notice, China isn’t on that list which reflects what I said. In case the math is difficult 756 per 100,000 is 0.756% or 0.76 rounded up, about half of which are drug offenders. Another reason for ending the war on drugs.

          • Andrew

            “According to the International Centre for Prison Studies at King’s
            College London, the U.S. currently has the largest documented prison
            population in the world, both in absolute and proportional terms. We’ve
            got roughly 2.03 million people behind bars, or 701 per 100,000
            population. China has the second-largest number of prisoners (1.51
            million, for a rate of 117 per 100,000), and Russia has the
            second-highest rate (606 per 100,000, for a total of 865,000).”

            http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2494/does-the-united-states-lead-the-world-in-prison-population

          • SF2K01

            Seriously? It seems like people are happy to repeat statistics mindlessly while ignoring how small those numbers really are and without bothering to analyze the meaning behind it.

          • Markov Cheney

            Hey, fuck it bro’. Those people are nothing but statistics anyway, amirite?

          • SF2K01

            With the exception of the people in prison due to nonsense like the war on drugs, yes I believe robbers, murderers and rapists belong in prison and fuck’em. Those are the kinds of people in the prison of the article: Incredibly violent people who did some nasty stuff to get there in the first place.

          • Andrew

            With all due respect, your reply seems like a weak rhetorical defense of the status quo.  What’s not serious about the statistics I quoted?  What’s mindless about them?  What’s the supposed meaning being ignored?  Why was it important to you that China wasn’t mentioned until I mentioned China?

          • SF2K01

            There is no defense to the fact that people are ignoring the questions I posed by quoting statistics I already quoted in the very first post. My point is that the percentage is incredibly small in reality, even if it’s the largest by comparison. China (which I also mentioned in the first post) is a question because people often disappear there.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    The Homeland of the Free imprisons more of its citizens than any country in the world, both in total numbers and as a percentage of the population.  It also imprisons more of other countries citizens than any country in the world.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    The Homeland of the Free imprisons more of its citizens than any country in the world, both in total numbers and as a percentage of the population.  It also imprisons more of other countries citizens than any country in the world.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    The Homeland of the Free imprisons more of its citizens than any country in the world, both in total numbers and as a percentage of the population.  It also imprisons more of other countries citizens than any country in the world.

  • Monkey See Monkey Do

    America’s prison industrial complex is just a modern form of slavery. A way to keep black americans and mexicans oppressed and marganalized using the ‘the war on some drugs’. And remember, prison labor is practically free, a good way to cover up slave wages.

  • Monkey See Monkey Do

    America’s prison industrial complex is just a modern form of slavery. A way to keep black americans and mexicans oppressed and marganalized using the ‘the war on some drugs’. And remember, prison labor is practically free, a good way to cover up slave wages.

  • SF2K01

    Give em a week in a prison in China or Saudi Arabia, then bring em back and see if they still have a problem with California prisons.

    • Hadrian999

      so being not as bad as those guys is good enough? the same logic could be used to erode civil liberties, political freedoms and due process, because hey, it’s slightly better than china right.

      • SF2K01

        It’s quite a bit better than China but prison isn’t a vacation hotel. Pelican bay holds literally the worst of the worst, not people in there on minor crimes (the kinds of people some countries would probably straight up just execute and be done with it). The kinds of things people have to do to get placed there are the kinds of people who don’t deserve civil liberties.

        • Hadrian999

          they deserve better than the “debriefing” process that sets them up to be murdered by other inmates and extended  solitary, prison will never be fun but there are certain baseline requirements that our government should be forced to abide by. with the increasing private prison for profit business there need to be hard and fast rules for American correctional facilities.

        • The_Baffler

          You get executed for sneezing wrong in China.

        • The_Baffler

          You get executed for sneezing wrong in China.

    • Curumim

      How do you know tha China’s prisons are better? Have you ever been there? Or did you just listen to the american propaganda that they made about rival countries?

    • Andrew

      Yeah, if you steal $20 form a liquor store you deserve to get raped!

      • SF2K01

        The prison of the article is a prison that only houses the worst incredibly violent and dangerous offenders. They deserve whatever they get and probably deserve more.

  • Anonymous

    Give em a week in a prison in China or Saudi Arabia, then bring em back and see if they still have a problem with California prisons.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a grand total of 2.3 million people in prison, i.e. less than 1 percent, 0.76% to be exact. So instead of using scary sounding phrases like the US imprisons more people than anyone else (if that’s even true, I can’t find any data on China), stop and think how small that number really is. If we didn’t have so many people in jail due to the pointless “war on drugs” we’d be much further down that list.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_prison_population
    Country
    Prison population

    per 100,000 inhabitants

    United States

    of America
    756

    Russian

    Federation
    611

    New

    Zealand
    186

    United

    Kingdom
    148

    Netherlands
    128

    Australia
    124.5

    Canada
    107

    Italy
    104

    South Korea
    104

    Ireland
    101

    Germany
    95

    Turkey
    91

    France
    85

    Sweden
    82

    Denmark
    77

    Japan
    62

    Iceland
    40

    India
    22

  • Hadrian999

    so being not as bad as those guys is good enough? the same logic could be used to erode civil liberties, political freedoms and due process, because hey, it’s slightly better than china right.

  • Anonymous

    It’s quite a bit better than China but prison isn’t a vacation hotel. Pelican bay holds literally the worst of the worst, not people in there on minor crimes (the kinds of people some countries would probably straight up just execute and be done with it). The kinds of things people have to do to get placed there are the kinds of people who don’t deserve civil liberties.

  • Anonymous

    It’s quite a bit better than China but prison isn’t a vacation hotel. Pelican bay holds literally the worst of the worst, not people in there on minor crimes (the kinds of people some countries would probably straight up just execute and be done with it). The kinds of things people have to do to get placed there are the kinds of people who don’t deserve civil liberties.

  • Anonymous

    Yes and as you’ll notice, China isn’t on that list, and in case the math is difficult 756 per 100,000 is 0.756% or 0.76 rounded up, about half of which are drug offenders. Another reason for ending the war on drugs.

  • Anonymous

    Yes and as you’ll notice, China isn’t on that list, and in case the math is difficult 756 per 100,000 is 0.756% or 0.76 rounded up, about half of which are drug offenders. Another reason for ending the war on drugs.

  • Hadrian999

    they deserve better than the “debriefing” process that sets them up to be murdered by other inmates and extended  solitary, prison will never be fun but there are certain baseline requirements that our government should be forced to abide by. with the increasing private prison for profit business there need to be hard and fast rules for American correctional facilities.

  • Curumim

    How do you know tha China’s prisons are better? Have you ever been there? Or did you just listen to the american propaganda that they made about rival countries?

  • Andrew

    Yeah, if you steal $20 form a liquor store you deserve to get raped!

  • E.B. Wolf

    “The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.” -Fyodor Dostoyevsky 

  • E.B. Wolf

    “The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.” -Fyodor Dostoyevsky 

  • Anonymous

    You get executed for sneezing wrong in China.

  • Andrew

    “According to the International Centre for Prison Studies at King’s
    College London, the U.S. currently has the largest documented prison
    population in the world, both in absolute and proportional terms. We’ve
    got roughly 2.03 million people behind bars, or 701 per 100,000
    population. China has the second-largest number of prisoners (1.51
    million, for a rate of 117 per 100,000), and Russia has the
    second-highest rate (606 per 100,000, for a total of 865,000).”

    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2494/does-the-united-states-lead-the-world-in-prison-population

  • Anonymous

    Seriously? It seems like people are happy to repeat statistics mindlessly while ignoring how small those numbers really are and without bothering to analyze the meaning behind it.

  • Markov Cheney

    Hey, fuck it bro’. Those people are nothing but statistics anyway, amirite?

  • Andrew

    With all due respect, your reply seems like a weak rhetorical defense of the status quo.  What’s not serious about the statistics I quoted?  What’s mindless about them?  What’s the supposed meaning being ignored?  Why was it important to you that China wasn’t mentioned until I mentioned China?

  • Anon

    ironic as america invented the get out of jail free card from monopoly

  • Anon

    ironic as america invented the get out of jail free card from monopoly

  • Anonymous

    There is no defense to the fact that people are ignoring the questions I posed by quoting statistics I already quoted in the very first post. My point is that the percentage is incredibly small in reality, even if it’s the largest by comparison. China (which I also mentioned in the first post) is a question because people often disappear there.

  • Anonymous

    With the exception of the people in prison due to nonsense like the war on drugs, yes I believe robbers, murderers and rapists belong in prison and fuck’em. Those are the kinds of people in the prison of the article: Incredibly violent people who did some nasty stuff to get there in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    The prison of the article is a prison that only houses the worst incredibly violent and dangerous offenders. They deserve whatever they get and probably deserve more.