Is Ron Paul the Only Republican Candidate Who Could Beat Obama?

Paul vs ObamaThe times they are a-changin’ via Rasmussen Reports:

Congressman Ron Paul may be a long shot to win the Republican presidential nomination, but he runs competitively with President Obama right now.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Voters shows Paul picking up 37% of the vote, while the president earns 41%. The Texas congressman joins Mitt Romney, Michelle Bachmann, and Rick Perry as candidates within hailing distance of the president at this time.

Rudy Giuliani is another potential candidate who is considered a long shot for the nomination but is competitive with the president. The former mayor of New York City trails Obama by five, 44% to 39%.

But the real story in the numbers is that the president continues to earn between 41% and 49% of the vote no matter which Republican is mentioned as a potential opponent. This suggests that the race remains a referendum on the incumbent more than anything else.

Obama posts a 12-point lead over former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, 44% to 32%.

Two Republicans can’t even get to 30% against the president. Businessman Herman Cain and former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman, who served as Obama’s ambassador to China, each earn 28% support. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, considered unlikely to run by most observers, trail the president by seven and nine points respectively. Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum trails by 14.

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  • Anarchy Wolf

    I am dumbstruck by how popular that Bachmann woman is, she is crazy. Crazier than even Sarah Palin. And that isn’t easy to do.

  • Anarchy Pony

    I am dumbstruck by how popular that Bachmann woman is, she is crazy. Crazier than even Sarah Palin. And that isn’t easy to do.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      Amen dude…the batshit wagon dropped off a few extra tons at her house. It’s hard to believe we once dumped a Vice President-elect because he underwent shock therapy many years before…because the public feared that he might not be fully mentally competent for the job…and now we’re willing to snatch a loony right out of the bin at the drop of a hat. Fucking pathetic.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      Amen dude…the batshit wagon dropped off a few extra tons at her house. It’s hard to believe we once dumped a Vice President-elect because he underwent shock therapy many years before…because the public feared that he might not be fully mentally competent for the job…and now we’re willing to snatch a loony right out of the bin at the drop of a hat. Fucking pathetic.

  • Anarchy Pony

    I am dumbstruck by how popular that Bachmann woman is, she is crazy. Crazier than even Sarah Palin. And that isn’t easy to do.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Amen dude…the batshit wagon dropped off a few extra tons at her house. It’s hard to believe we once dumped a Vice President-elect because he underwent shock therapy many years before…because the public feared that he might not be fully mentally competent for the job…and now we’re willing to snatch a loony right out of the bin at the drop of a hat. Fucking pathetic.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Anticipate Ron Paul receiving the “Perot Treatment”. Race starts…does well…starts showing a serious chance of  victory…suddenly drops out amid rumors of personal crisis and spends rest of life quietly enjoying retirement never publicly threatening power structure again. Of course…theres always the chance that Ron Paul might not give in so easily…in which case cue the mysterious plane crash/car crash/fast aggressive cancer/inexplicable suicide or…when all else fails…the lone nut puts a bullet through his skull. 2012, baby…at least it won’t be dull!

    • MoralDrift

      it certainly wont be dull

    • Godozo

      All this assumes, of course, that our corporate masters haven’t yet gotten to the point where they don’t NEED government to dominate the American Public. If they’ve got to that point, don’t be surprised if Ron Paul gets shoved down the Republican’s throats…and they swallow, seeing their chance to defeat Obama.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Anticipate Ron Paul receiving the “Perot Treatment”. Race starts…does well…starts showing a serious chance of  victory…suddenly drops out amid rumors of personal crisis and spends rest of life quietly enjoying retirement never publicly threatening power structure again. Of course…theres always the chance that Ron Paul might not give in so easily…in which case cue the mysterious plane crash/car crash/fast aggressive cancer/inexplicable suicide or…when all else fails…the lone nut puts a bullet through his skull. 2012, baby…at least it won’t be dull!

  • Hadrian999

    I actually see ron paul guaranteeing an Obama victory by fragmenting the republican vote

    • ArgosyJones

      Possibly, he could do that. if he ran as an independent after losing the republican primary.  He has an army of morons to sign petitions for him.

      • Tuna Ghost

        I think if he ran as an independent, he’d still take a chunk of the GOP vote.  Either way they’re fucked.  Ron Paul has no more chance against Obama than any other Republican candidate.  I think Obama can outspend just about all of them, really.  

  • Hadrian999

    I actually see ron paul guaranteeing an Obama victory by fragmenting the republican vote

  • DeepCough

    As much as I like some of your viewpoints, Ron Paul, I just don’t see you getting the nomination anyhow, because you’re not a Reaganite or someone comparable thereof. Honestly, I think Obama will get another term, and then a Republican will get an 8 year term, and so on and so forth until such time a Chinese premier sits in the Oval Office.

  • DeepCough

    As much as I like some of your viewpoints, Ron Paul, I just don’t see you getting the nomination anyhow, because you’re not a Reaganite or someone comparable thereof. Honestly, I think Obama will get another term, and then a Republican will get an 8 year term, and so on and so forth until such time a Chinese premier sits in the Oval Office.

  • Anonymous

    it certainly wont be dull

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FPBFO6RC5R2HHIP3VXSFU2RZQA mjj

    No that tall  skinny  dark skinned man that ran in 2008 could kick Obama’s butt.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/FPBFO6RC5R2HHIP3VXSFU2RZQA mjj

    No that tall  skinny  dark skinned man that ran in 2008 could kick Obama’s butt.

  • Godozo

    All this assumes, of course, that our corporate masters haven’t yet gotten to the point where they don’t NEED government to dominate the American Public. If they’ve got to that point, don’t be surprised if Ron Paul gets shoved down the Republican’s throats…and they swallow, seeing their chance to defeat Obama.

  • ArgosyJones

    Possibly, he could do that. if he ran as an independent after losing the republican primary.  He has an army of morons to sign petitions for him.

  • BuzzCoastin

    Homeland presidential politics is a sham.  Doesn’t anyone remember Obama hope & change fever? Or any of the other hope & change BS offered by (fill in the blank) over the years?  Nothing ever changes except the name of the new puppet.

    To assume that Ron Paul is any different from any other hope & changer is delusional.

    • Change???

      Nothing ever changes…never ever ever, never, nothing. Stagnent, eternally.

      • Stanwo9

        It Will….. eventually.

    • FactCheck

      Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who wants to repeal the Patriot Act. The ONLY candidate who wants to end the “war on drugs” by legalizing across the board. And he is the ONLY candidate who wants to bring home ALL of the troops, asap. Obama cannot make a single one of those claims. 

      • Guest

        Well Ron Paul can SAY all that, but what does that mean? Exactly as BuzzCoastin said,
        “To assume that Ron Paul is any different from any other hope & changer is delusional. ”

        He just knows the right words to use to get your attention…..”patriot act….audit federal reserve….end war on drugs…” sure, I’m in agreement with all of those things, just like I agree with “hope and change.”

        He can promise you the world, but to believe ANOTHER politician is going to do what he says he will once he gets elected? (assuming that our votes even matter and the whole thing isn’t rigged) That is delusional.

        So while you continue to run back into the arms of your abusive boyfriend that is the American Government, I’m not buying it…I’d rather be alone than with someone who rapes/robs/pilages me and then tells me it’s for my own good.

        I think this is really what it is coming down to, we’re starting to divide up into the people who are still buying into the system, and the people who are not, I can only hope that it’s not going to take four more years for the people who are buying into the system, to realize that they are still getting fucked.

        • FactCheck

          “but to believe ANOTHER politician is going to do what he says he will
          once he gets elected…is delusional” Paul has been an elected official for decades…check his track record and you will see that when he says he is going to do (or NOT do) something, he follows through…not some of the time, but ALL of the time. It’s a little thing called “integrity” and unfortunately most of our elected officials don’t even understand the concept, let alone know how to put it into practice. Now, if you want to argue that his life might be in jeopardy if he were to actually get elected and try to accomplish all of these things, then yes – sadly – I would agree with you, because the Powers That Be have no desire to give up even an inch of their power and influence.

          • Tuna Ghost

            My problem is his insistence to remain absolutely faithful to his ideology means he’s committed to doing some pretty shitty stuff, but then it seems he doesn’t quite have the insistence he should for things he doesn’t like.  For instance, he may be against racism, but his ideology of limited federal intervention means they wouldn’t be able to protect civil rights if a southern state (or any other) decides its okay to allow businesses to refuse service to black people or non-whites in general.  Civil rights isn’t something that should be left up to the states to decide, there’s a very good reason why the federal government intervened back in the day.

            Conversely, and this is lifted from another website and posted by someone whose opinion is worth repeating here:  

            Ron Paul may not like the gays, but he has to maintain, in order to hold a consistent ideology, that what they do is not something that should be legislated for or against, and therefore that if people are to be allowed to marry, so should they. In those terms, in fact, his description of “don’t ask, don’t tell” is hypocritical, since he should be happy for gay men and lesbians to be able to disclose their homosexuality just as straight men and women in the army disclose their heterosexuality, but presumably he feels either that this is a libertarian solution to an existing set of rules or that homosexuality if revealed in intrinsically disruptive. As one might if one did not like gays.

            So you can see, he’s not exactly holding his to his ideology as much as he proposes.  

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Homeland presidential politics is a sham.  Doesn’t anyone remember Obama hope & change fever? Or any of the other hope & change BS offered by (fill in the blank) over the years?  Nothing ever changes except the name of the new puppet.

    To assume that Ron Paul is any different from any other hope & changer is delusional.

  • shpungled

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  • shpungled

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  • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

    lol No.

  • http://twitter.com/MiGaOh Michael G. O’Hair

    lol No.

  • Change???

    Nothing ever changes…never ever ever, never, nothing. Stagnent, eternally.

  • Stanwo9

    It Will….. eventually.

  • Anonymous

    I got $31.68 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Dell laptop for $95.84 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $53.79 to get. Here is the website we are using to get all this stuff GrabPenny.com

  • http://www.nickmeador.org/ ndmeador

    Does it matter? The presidency is broken–as with most of the government. Any president will be a goon for Big Business at this point.

  • http://www.nickmeador.org/ ndmeador

    Does it matter? The presidency is broken–as with most of the government. Any president will be a goon for Big Business at this point.

  • FactCheck

    Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who wants to repeal the Patriot Act. The ONLY candidate who wants to end the “war on drugs” by legalizing across the board. And he is the ONLY candidate who wants to bring home ALL of the troops, asap. Obama cannot make a single one of those claims. 

  • FactCheck

    Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who wants to repeal the Patriot Act. The ONLY candidate who wants to end the “war on drugs” by legalizing across the board. And he is the ONLY candidate who wants to bring home ALL of the troops, asap. Obama cannot make a single one of those claims. 

  • http://twitter.com/r129s215 Big Brother

    Yes he is the only one that could…but that wont happen.

  • http://twitter.com/r129s215 rü$╫

    Yes he is the only one that could…but that wont happen.

  • Comprep666

    Gary Johnson > Ron Paul…Ron Paul is too comfortable as a politician and he is just too shifty for my tastes.

  • Comprep666

    Gary Johnson > Ron Paul…Ron Paul is too comfortable as a politician and he is just too shifty for my tastes.

  • Comprep666

    internet freedom is a big issue for me so that is a +1 for johnson…this – http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/07/hands-off-the-internet-an-interview-with-gary-johnson.ars

  • Maggie0923

    I THINK OBOMO IS THE ONLY WINNER IN MY BOOK, 

  • Maggie0923

    I THINK OBOMO IS THE ONLY WINNER IN MY BOOK, 

  • Guest

    Well Ron Paul can SAY all that, but what does that mean? Exactly as BuzzCoastin said,
    “To assume that Ron Paul is any different from any other hope & changer is delusional. ”

    He just knows the right words to use to get your attention…..”patriot act….audit federal reserve….end war on drugs…” sure, I’m in agreement with all of those things, just like I agree with “hope and change.”

    He can promise you the world, but to believe ANOTHER politician is going to do what he says he will once he gets elected? (assuming that our votes even matter and the whole thing isn’t rigged) That is delusional.

    So while you continue to run back into the arms of your abusive boyfriend that is the American Government, I’m not buying it…I’d rather be alone than with someone who rapes/robs/pilages me and then tells me it’s for my own good.

    I think this is really what it is coming down to, we’re starting to divide up into the people who are still buying into the system, and the people who are not, I can only hope that it’s not going to take four more years for the people who are buying into the system, to realize that they are still getting fucked.

  • Guest

    Well Ron Paul can SAY all that, but what does that mean? Exactly as BuzzCoastin said,
    “To assume that Ron Paul is any different from any other hope & changer is delusional. ”

    He just knows the right words to use to get your attention…..”patriot act….audit federal reserve….end war on drugs…” sure, I’m in agreement with all of those things, just like I agree with “hope and change.”

    He can promise you the world, but to believe ANOTHER politician is going to do what he says he will once he gets elected? (assuming that our votes even matter and the whole thing isn’t rigged) That is delusional.

    So while you continue to run back into the arms of your abusive boyfriend that is the American Government, I’m not buying it…I’d rather be alone than with someone who rapes/robs/pilages me and then tells me it’s for my own good.

    I think this is really what it is coming down to, we’re starting to divide up into the people who are still buying into the system, and the people who are not, I can only hope that it’s not going to take four more years for the people who are buying into the system, to realize that they are still getting fucked.

  • FactCheck

    “but to believe ANOTHER politician is going to do what he says he will
    once he gets elected…is delusional” Paul has been an elected official for decades…check his track record and you will see that when he says he is going to do (or NOT do) something, he follows through…not some of the time, but ALL of the time. It’s a little thing called “integrity” and unfortunately most of our elected officials don’t even understand the concept, let alone know how to put it into practice. Now, if you want to argue that his life might be in jeopardy if he were to actually get elected and try to accomplish all of these things, then yes – sadly – I would agree with you, because the Powers That Be have no desire to give up even an inch of their power and influence.

  • Tuna Ghost

    I think if he ran as an independent, he’d still take a chunk of the GOP vote.  Either way they’re fucked.  Ron Paul has no more chance against Obama than any other Republican candidate.  I think Obama can outspend just about all of them, really.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    My problem is his insistence to remain absolutely faithful to his ideology means he’s committed to doing some pretty shitty stuff, but then it seems he doesn’t quite have the insistence he should for things he doesn’t like.  For instance, he may be against racism, but his ideology of limited federal intervention means they wouldn’t be able to protect civil rights if a southern state (or any other) decides its okay to allow businesses to refuse service to black people or non-whites in general.  Civil rights isn’t something that should be left up to the states to decide, there’s a very good reason why the federal government intervened back in the day.

    Conversely, and this is lifted from another website and posted by someone whose opinion is worth repeating here:  

    Ron Paul may not like the gays, but he has to maintain, in order to hold a consistent ideology, that what they do is not something that should be legislated for or against, and therefore that if people are to be allowed to marry, so should they. In those terms, in fact, his description of “don’t ask, don’t tell” is hypocritical, since he should be happy for gay men and lesbians to be able to disclose their homosexuality just as straight men and women in the army disclose their heterosexuality, but presumably he feels either that this is a libertarian solution to an existing set of rules or that homosexuality if revealed in intrinsically disruptive. As one might if one did not like gays.

    So you can see, he’s not exactly holding his to his ideology as much as he proposes.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    My problem is his insistence to remain absolutely faithful to his ideology means he’s committed to doing some pretty shitty stuff, but then it seems he doesn’t quite have the insistence he should for things he doesn’t like.  For instance, he may be against racism, but his ideology of limited federal intervention means they wouldn’t be able to protect civil rights if a southern state (or any other) decides its okay to allow businesses to refuse service to black people or non-whites in general.  Civil rights isn’t something that should be left up to the states to decide, there’s a very good reason why the federal government intervened back in the day.

    Conversely, and this is lifted from another website and posted by someone whose opinion is worth repeating here:  

    Ron Paul may not like the gays, but he has to maintain, in order to hold a consistent ideology, that what they do is not something that should be legislated for or against, and therefore that if people are to be allowed to marry, so should they. In those terms, in fact, his description of “don’t ask, don’t tell” is hypocritical, since he should be happy for gay men and lesbians to be able to disclose their homosexuality just as straight men and women in the army disclose their heterosexuality, but presumably he feels either that this is a libertarian solution to an existing set of rules or that homosexuality if revealed in intrinsically disruptive. As one might if one did not like gays.

    So you can see, he’s not exactly holding his to his ideology as much as he proposes.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Paul is pro-life. Paul holds that the United States Constitution does not grant the federal government any authority to legalize or ban abortion. He believes that his pro-life stance aligns with his libertarianism, on the premise that abortion is aggression against a person. “Under the 9th and 10th amendments, all authority over matters not specifically addressed in the Constitution remains with state legislatures.” Nevertheless, in order to offset the effects of Roe v. Wade, he voted in favor of the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003.  How many libertarians would claim this is a typical libertarian stance?  Is this really sticking to his ideology?  
    And as far as race goes, he’s gone on record saying ”By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called ‘diversity’ actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.”
    This has been a pretty standard line used by ignorant people and racists, arguing that since we’re all on equal footing now encouraging people to identify by race this is encouraging “racism”, which shows a fundamental lack of understanding of both reality and racism.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Paul is pro-life. Paul holds that the United States Constitution does not grant the federal government any authority to legalize or ban abortion. He believes that his pro-life stance aligns with his libertarianism, on the premise that abortion is aggression against a person. “Under the 9th and 10th amendments, all authority over matters not specifically addressed in the Constitution remains with state legislatures.” Nevertheless, in order to offset the effects of Roe v. Wade, he voted in favor of the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003.  How many libertarians would claim this is a typical libertarian stance?  Is this really sticking to his ideology?  
    And as far as race goes, he’s gone on record saying ”By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called ‘diversity’ actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.”
    This has been a pretty standard line used by ignorant people and racists, arguing that since we’re all on equal footing now encouraging people to identify by race this is encouraging “racism”, which shows a fundamental lack of understanding of both reality and racism.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Also, its worth pointing out how incredibly annoying his “The Left Is Waging War On Religion!!!” spiel is.  
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html

    OH NO CHRISTMAS JUST DOESN’T FEEL LIKE CHRISTMAS ANYMORE AND ITS THE LEFT’S FAULT

  • Tuna Ghost

    Also, its worth pointing out how incredibly annoying his “The Left Is Waging War On Religion!!!” spiel is.  
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html

    OH NO CHRISTMAS JUST DOESN’T FEEL LIKE CHRISTMAS ANYMORE AND ITS THE LEFT’S FAULT

    • Tuna Ghost

      And speaking of annoying and ignorant, this is from a Salon article I like to quote:

      Paul describes the federal airline security system as an extra-constitutional affront to civil liberties, and thinks security should be handled by the private sector. Then he takes a rather un-presidential jab at the appearance of many TSA screeners, a workforce heavily populated by minorities and immigrants. “We quadrupled the TSA, you know, and hired more people who look more suspicious to me than most Americans who are getting checked,” he says. “Most of them are, well, you know, they just don’t look very American to me. If I’d have been looking, they look suspicious … I mean, a lot of them can’t even speak English, hardly. Not that I’m accusing them of anything, but it’s sort of ironic.”
      This is not the first time Paul has veered into potentially insensitive territory. In 1992, a copy of his newsletter, the Ron Paul Survival Report, criticized the judicial system in Washington, D.C., before adding, “I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” Under a section headlined “Terrorist Update,” the following sentence ran, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

      I mean, really.  Fuck this guy.

  • Tuna Ghost

    And speaking of annoying and ignorant, this is from a Salon article I like to quote:

    Paul describes the federal airline security system as an extra-constitutional affront to civil liberties, and thinks security should be handled by the private sector. Then he takes a rather un-presidential jab at the appearance of many TSA screeners, a workforce heavily populated by minorities and immigrants. “We quadrupled the TSA, you know, and hired more people who look more suspicious to me than most Americans who are getting checked,” he says. “Most of them are, well, you know, they just don’t look very American to me. If I’d have been looking, they look suspicious … I mean, a lot of them can’t even speak English, hardly. Not that I’m accusing them of anything, but it’s sort of ironic.”
    This is not the first time Paul has veered into potentially insensitive territory. In 1992, a copy of his newsletter, the Ron Paul Survival Report, criticized the judicial system in Washington, D.C., before adding, “I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” Under a section headlined “Terrorist Update,” the following sentence ran, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

    I mean, really.  Fuck this guy.