Restaurant Bans Children Under Six

Starting July 16, McDain’s, a Pittsburgh-area restaurant, will ban children under the age of 6 from its dining area. Restaurant owner Mike Vuick said the policy came in response to complaints he’d received from older customers about kids causing a ruckus. In an email to his clientele, Vuick wrote, “We feel that McDain’s is a not a place for young children … and many, many times they have disturbed other customers.” Via ABC News:

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  • Alis

    Awesome, good for him. I’d like to see more restaurants adopt similar policies. I know I’d prefer eating at such a restaurant.

  • Alis

    Awesome, good for him. I’d like to see more restaurants adopt similar policies. I know I’d prefer eating at such a restaurant.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Ugh…noisy children…can’t stand em…they’re almost as bad as whiny old farts prattling on about everything and everyone and whats wrong with the world other than themselves. I wonder if we could have some restaurants that ban the elderly…because the last thing a diner needs is an additional wait time because petulant, fussy, dithering, forgetful old bags of wind suck up all the staffs time and effort.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Ugh…noisy children…can’t stand em…they’re almost as bad as whiny old farts prattling on about everything and everyone and whats wrong with the world other than themselves. I wonder if we could have some restaurants that ban the elderly…because the last thing a diner needs is an additional wait time because petulant, fussy, dithering, forgetful old bags of wind suck up all the staffs time and effort.

  • Mamagriff50

    It is the owners right. Some people go out to relax, you can’t do that with a screaming brat in the room. Most parents don’t even bother to calm and quiet their child down. Bravo for the owner! Or he could use the 3 strikes your banned policy.   lol

  • Mamagriff50

    It is the owners right. Some people go out to relax, you can’t do that with a screaming brat in the room. Most parents don’t even bother to calm and quiet their child down. Bravo for the owner! Or he could use the 3 strikes your banned policy.   lol

    • Andrew

      Owner?  Children aren’t property.

      • The_Baffler

        Reading comprehension? Not for Andrew.

        • Andrew

          Doh!

          • The_Baffler

            ;p

  • Anonymous

    I once was bitten hard on the leg by a small one. I still have a scar. As I yelped in pain, she looked up at me and smiled like a little imp proud of her accomplishment. I nearly lost my cool completely. I grabbed her and almost threw her into her mothers arms. Her mother said something lame and ineffectual to her child while I bled and stained my pants. 

    I had to walk away and take a series of long, slow breaths to calm down. Everyone has a flash point. I nearly reached it that day.   

  • GoodDoktorBad

    I once was bitten hard on the leg by a small one. I still have a scar. As I yelped in pain, she looked up at me and smiled like a little imp proud of her accomplishment. I nearly lost my cool completely. I grabbed her and almost threw her into her mothers arms. Her mother said something lame and ineffectual to her child while I bled and stained my pants. 

    I had to walk away and take a series of long, slow breaths to calm down. Everyone has a flash point. I nearly reached it that day.   

    • justagirl

      ROFL!!

      • GoodDoktorBad

        That little demon child didn’t know how close she came to becoming part of the wall, and me, part of the prison population.

        Laugh it up…

        • justagirl

          lol @ “somebody eat me and get if over with”.    

    • SF2K01

      I have found quite a number of ways of disciplining kids utilizing a firm tone and a firm grip can be very effective when parents let their children run wild. You’d be surprised how quick some kids can shape up when presented with an adult who won’t put up with their shenanigans.

      • GoodDoktorBad

        Fortunately and unfortunately you can get in some serious shit touching someones child, even if they did you harm first. I’m glad I have demonstrated excellent self control in such situations.

    • Nunzio X

      Don’t you just want to walk up to the parents and say:

      “I prescribe an ass-whipping. You whip your kid’s ass and tell him to behave, or I’ll whip YOUR ass. Pick one.”

    • foolish emotions

      wow you were going to lose it on a little girl? thats immature and fucked up. you need to get some anger management if thats whats making you go off.

      • GoodDoktorBad

        I appreciate and frankly I am glad you are protective of your child. The fact is I didn’t hurt anyone despite the fact I had been hurt. Tell me you wouldn’t feel anger if some random monster bit you til you bled. 

        You’d send me six feet under for doing nothing but returning your rabid child to your arms? Who needs anger management? Freak…

        Put a bit in your mouth fool and buy one for your kid if he’s a biter.

      • Artor

        What would your reaction be to having a bite taken out of your leg? One that draws blood through jeans? I’m sure you’d politely ask the adorable little rugrat to please stop that as she chews your leg off, right?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TMA3THUS6SFK2OJ3UTTGXD6ZPA At the end of desire…wisdom.

          You’re one of those inattentive parents who allows their demon spawn to run roughshod over anyone at anytime, aren’t you?

          It’s like this, sweetie, control your get. If they injure or harass others, those others DO have the right to a reasonable response….a response that you might find less than palatable. GoodDoktorBad reacted with admirable restraint and control under the circumstances.

          As for you and your misplaced, smug, self-centered response, grow the fuck up. The world does not revolve around you and your crotch-fruit and your kids aren’t special or dear to the rest of us. If it acts like a beast, it should be restrained like a beast. If you have a problem with that, tough. Your children don’t get to ignore the rules of civilized society simply because you’re unable to contol them.

           

          • Artor

            You meant to reply to Foolish, right? My kid is now 13, but when he was little, if he made a fuss in a restaurant, we left the table & went outside until he got his act together again. If he couldn’t use his “restaurant manners,” he didn’t get to go. If he threw a tantrum instead of using his words, he caught hell for it, and he got the message early on. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times he lost his shit in public.

    • foolish emotions

      next time remember its just a child. if you ever grabbed my child for anything i would send you six feet under

      • GoodDoktorBad

        What would you expect, just let the kid bite me? Of course I grabbed her. I pulled the little vampire off my freakin’ leg -jackass.

        Foolish emotions indeed..

      • Tuna Ghost

        Big words on the internet, fella.  If you don’t control your child while its attacking someone else, expect someone else to take control of the situation.  I work with kids, and I can’t count the times I’ve had to jump in because of someone’s lazy parenting.    

        • GoodDoktorBad

          Thinking back, I remember the anger didn’t really come until after I got the kid off my leg. The pain, blood, the child’s smile, and the mothers lack of discipline is what really pissed me off. Grabbing the kid was a simple reflex reaction to unexpected and intense pain. The kid bit down so hard as to draw blood through my jeans. Vicious.  

      • Artor

        As the parent of a child, I understand where you’re coming from, but this would be no different that if your kid was petting a wild bear and got bitten. Whose fault is it, the inattentive parent, or the bear? If your kids are out of control, either watch closer or get a leash. It’s difficult to remember it’s a child when you’re bleeding & in pain.

      • Hws

        next time, smack the parent

    • GoodAdviceGuy

      you should have just yelled “FUCK!”, as loud as you could, right in her face, that would’ve taught the little devil not to go around biting people

  • Anonymous

    Let them eat Chuck E. Cheese -cake….

  • GoodDoktorBad

    Let them eat Chuck E. Cheese -cake….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TMA3THUS6SFK2OJ3UTTGXD6ZPA At the end of desire…wisdom.

      I’m with you on this one. A few years ago in a local grocery store, I was hit from behind with a shopping cart being wielded by a vicious little brat who was running around the store like a banshee. He and his four siblings were racing up and down the aisles while their mother was meandering around and paying ABSOLUTELY NO attention to her band of heathen whelps. The blow from the shopping cart cut my heel and bruised my heel bone. After being struck, I snatched up the little perp and marched him to the manager’s office and demanded that the woman be summoned. When she arrived huffing with indignation while the remainder of her children continued to use the grocery store as their private rumpus room, I informed the mother that she was responsible for the injury (which required 4 stitches) and that if she didn’t do something to control her little monsters, I WOULD. She then tried to get angry about me grabbing her son (he was about 8) by his collar and forcing him to go to the manager’s office.

      Long story short, the police had to be called to restrain the woman and corral her bastard get. She was arrested and charged and I spent the afternoon in the emergency room getting stitches. She and her brood were banned from that store and she was fined and had to pay my medical bill.

      Parents, CONTROL YOUR CHILDREN. In society, a certain level of civilized conduct is demanded EVEN FROM CHILDREN. If your children cannot behave, keep them at home until such a time as you’ve instilled proper home-training and they won’t be a menace to innocent bystanders. The rest of the world should not have to tolerate your ill-mannered, undisciplined offspring simply because you’re too lazy or inept to teach them to act like humans.

      As for the restaurant banning children, who are often disruptive and tend to create a huge mess than wait staff have to clean up, I have no problem with that. The world is not a kindergarten. There should be some spaces where adults can go to eat and socialize peacefully without the intrusion of other people’s children screaming, running amok or throwing chicken fingers. If the restaurant chooses to restrict children due to their disruptive prescence, that should be their right. They owe their other patrons the opportunity to have their meals in peace.

  • justagirl

    ROFL!!

  • justagirl

    ROFL!!

  • Anonymous

    That little demon child didn’t know how close she came to becoming part of the wall, and me, part of the prison population.

    Laugh it up…

  • justagirl

    lol @ “somebody eat me and get if over with”.    

  • justagirl

    lol @ “somebody eat me and get if over with”.    

  • Anonymous

    Everywhere should ban all children

  • JoiquimCouteau

    Everywhere should ban all children

  • Anonymous

    We have no-smoking sections, what’s wrong with creating a no-kids section that you have to unilaterally ban children from the whole restaurant? Families also like to go places and parents can’t always leave kids behind. I’m not sure what’s so special about McDains that makes it automatically unfavorable to kids.

  • SF2K01

    We have no-smoking sections, what’s wrong with creating a no-kids section that you have to unilaterally ban children from the whole restaurant? Families also like to go places and parents can’t always leave kids behind. I’m not sure what’s so special about McDains that makes it automatically unfavorable to kids.

    Of course, unruly children are symptomatic of a much much bigger problem in America that is coddling children to the point where they are in charge, not the parents. Welcome to the results of trying to never make a kid feel bad, not even for proper discipline.

    • Catzman

      What people seem to forget is that it’s a PRIVATE businessman making decisions about his own personal establishment and dealing with the complaints that he’s received about noisy little shitheads that larger shitheads called “their parents” do nothing about. Personally, I love being intimidating enough that when I encounter little walking footballs like that, all I have to do is stare at them and frown and they tend STFU and behave.

      • SF2K01

        Oh yes, I forgot. There’s no way that can ever go wrong if we let the businessman do as he pleases. It’s not like there are laws or anything limiting what a private business man can do in terms of refusal to serve customers or what he must provide in the industry.

        • KxBk6U

          The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to “full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.” The right of public accommodation is also guaranteed to disabled citizens under the Americans with Disabilities Act, which precludes discrimination by businesses on the basis of disability.

          In cases in which the patron is not a member of a federally protected class, the question generally turns on whether the business’s refusal of service was arbitrary, or whether the business had a specific interest in refusing service.

  • Anonymous

    I have found quite a number of ways of disciplining kids utilizing a firm tone and a firm grip can be very effective when parents let their children run wild. You’d be surprised how quick some kids can shape up when presented with an adult who won’t put up with their shenanigans.

  • Anonymous

    Fortunately and unfortunately you can in some serious shit touching someones child, even if they did you harm first. I’m glad I have demonstrated excellent self control in such situations. 

  • Nunzio X

    I took a  long flight recently. Infants were wailing at the top of their miniature lungs, keeping everyone in that section of the plane from getting a bit of sleep.

    And I wondered: Shit, I don’t take my fucking cat everywhere I go—why the hell don’t these parents leave the babies at home or with a relative or some shit when they travel? Kids can be very sweet and charming but most of them aren’t. And there are some places where they’re not welcome because they don’t know how to control themselves OR (more likely) the parents don’t know how to control them. So—stay at home. Give the rest of us a break.

    • Tuna Ghost

      And I wondered: Shit, I don’t take my fucking cat everywhere I go—why the hell don’t these parents leave the babies at home or with a relative or some shit when they travel?

      Because you can’t abandon a child, and not everyone has a trusted friend or relative to dump their kid with.  I hate being stuck anywhere with a screaming child, but banning them from travel simply isn’t a realistic or fair solution.

      Kids can be very sweet and charming but most of them aren’t.

      That’s a nonsense statement.  

      • Guest

        The point is:  With both a cat or a child, there is an assumed responsibility.  Either you compensate for the fact you have a pet and make arrangements so that you can take a trip or you cease to be a responsible pet-owner.  A child is a responsibility.  Just because having a child may affect you from doing things you need to do to take care of yourself and your life, such as making a trip, going out on a date (if you’re single), eating in a restaurant, you need to realize you have a priority: a child, that comes before everything including yourself and your very own desires that aren’t necessary for your survival or your mental well-being.  This is sometimes tossed to the side by trying to pursue selfish activities and toting the child around with you while you do whatever you want.  That is irresponsible parenting and completely inconsiderate of those around you.  

        People feel so *required* by society to have children though, it’s a brainwashing of its own… where somehow since we are *supposed* to have children, somehow society is just supposed to bend over and accommodate to us because we did what we thought we were supposed to do.  Because of this acting-before-thinking-about-what-we-really-want mentality or this needing-to-do-something-but-not-know-why mentality, parents are shocked, horrified, and outraged at the societal injustices they face as parents when often it turns out it must have not really been that well thought out to begin with and a lot more people have much more responsibility than they actually can handle.  Listen, just because you can have children doesn’t mean you should.  The whole “straight relationship,” “sex for procreation” thing is not only an outdated, religious propaganda idea, but also completely irrelevant today where we now know we can, in fact, have guiltless pleasureful sex and have no pressure whatsoever on us to “keep humanity alive.”  I really wish people would think about WHY they need or want to have children and I think they would often find it’s for sick, twisted reasons used to further validate their egotistical, self-absorbed, irresponsible asses.  Ooohhh, flame on.

  • Nunzio X

    I took a  long flight recently. Infants were wailing at the top of their miniature lungs, keeping everyone in that section of the plane from getting a bit of sleep.

    And I wondered: Shit, I don’t take my fucking cat everywhere I go—why the hell don’t these parents leave the babies at home or with a relative or some shit when they travel? Kids can be very sweet and charming but most of them aren’t. And there are some places where they’re not welcome because they don’t know how to control themselves OR (more likely) the parents don’t know how to control them. So—stay at home. Give the rest of us a break.

  • Nunzio X

    Don’t you just want to walk up to the parents and say:

    “I prescribe an ass-whipping. You whip your kid’s ass and tell him to behave, or I’ll whip YOUR ass. Pick one.”

  • wizard troll

    Restaurant Bans Children Under Six from working overtime

  • wizard troll

    Restaurant Bans Children Under Six from working overtime

  • DeepCough

    Hey, you want a kid’s meal, go to McDonald’s.

  • DeepCough

    Hey, you want a kid’s meal, go to McDonald’s.

  • DeepCough

    Hey, you want a kid’s meal, go to McDonald’s.

  • DeepCough

    Hey, you want a kid’s meal, go to McDonald’s.

  • foolish emotions

    wow you were going to lose it on a little girl? thats immature and fucked up. you need to get some anger management if thats whats making you go off.

  • foolish emotions

    next time remember its just a child. if you ever grabbed my child for anything i would send you six feet under

  • Anonymous

    I appreciate and frankly I am glad you are protective of your child. The fact is I didn’t hurt anyone despite the fact I had been hurt. Tell me you wouldn’t feel anger if some random monster bit you til you bled. 

    You’d send me six feet under for doing nothing but returning your rabid child to your arms? Who needs anger management? Freak…

    Put a bit in your mouth fool and buy one for your kid if he’s a biter.

  • Anonymous

    What would you expect, just let the kid bite me? Of course I grabbed her. I pulled the little vampire off my freakin’ leg -jackass.

    Foolish emotions indeed..

  • Anonymous

    Fag

  • Catzman

    What people seem to forget is that it’s a PRIVATE businessman making decisions about his own personal establishment and dealing with the complaints that he’s received about noisy little shitheads that larger shitheads called “their parents” do nothing about. Personally, I love being intimidating enough that when I encounter little walking footballs like that, all I have to do is stare at them and frown and they tend STFU and behave.

  • Tuna Ghost

    Big words on the internet, fella.  If you don’t control your child while its attacking someone else, expect someone else to take control of the situation.  I work with kids, and I can’t count the times I’ve had to jump in because of someone’s lazy parenting.    

  • Tuna Ghost

    And I wondered: Shit, I don’t take my fucking cat everywhere I go—why the hell don’t these parents leave the babies at home or with a relative or some shit when they travel?

    Because you can’t abandon a child, and not everyone has a trusted friend or relative to dump their kid with.  I hate being stuck anywhere with a screaming child, but banning them from travel simply isn’t a realistic or fair solution.

    Kids can be very sweet and charming but most of them aren’t.

    That’s a nonsense statement.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Shit I spend 8 hours a day with kids, and as much as I love my job I’m glad to know there’s a place I can get away from the little monsters.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Shit I spend 8 hours a day with kids, and as much as I love my job I’m glad to know there’s a place I can get away from the little monsters.  

  • Anonymous

    Thinking back, I remember the anger didn’t really come until after I got the kid off my leg. The pain, blood, the child’s smile, and the mothers lack of discipline is what really pissed me off. Grabbing the kid was a simple reflex reaction to unexpected and intense pain. The kid bit down so hard as to draw blood through my jeans. Vicious.  

  • Anonymous

    As the parent of a child, I understand where you’re coming from, but this would be no different that if your kid was petting a wild bear and got bitten. Whose fault is it, the inattentive parent, or the bear? If your kids are out of control, either watch closer or get a leash. It’s difficult to remember it’s a child when you’re bleeding & in pain.

  • Anonymous

    What would your reaction be to having a bite taken out of your leg? One that draws blood through jeans? I’m sure you’d politely ask the adorable little rugrat to please stop that as she chews your leg off, right?

  • GoodAdviceGuy

    you should have just yelled “FUCK!”, as loud as you could, right in her face, that would’ve taught the little devil not to go around biting people

  • Andrew

    Owner?  Children aren’t property.

  • Andrew

    Owner?  Children aren’t property.

  • Andrew

    Owner?  Children aren’t property.

  • Anonymous

    Reading comprehension? Not for Andrew.

  • Andrew

    Doh!

  • Anonymous

    Oh yes, I forgot. There’s no way that can ever go wrong if we let the businessman do as he pleases. It’s not like there are laws or anything limiting what a private business man can do in terms of refusal to serve customers or what he must provide in the industry.

  • Enni

    There are few things worse than hiring a babysitter for a nice adult evening out, only to find the table next to me filled with someone else’s noisy, ever-questioning, drink-spilling darling.  I certainly support this decision, and hope that some of the restaurants in my area follow suit!

  • Enni

    There are few things worse than hiring a babysitter for a nice adult evening out, only to find the table next to me filled with someone else’s noisy, ever-questioning, drink-spilling darling.  I certainly support this decision, and hope that some of the restaurants in my area follow suit!

  • Anonymous

    ;p

  • Anonymous

    ;p

  • KxBk6U

    The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to “full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.” The right of public accommodation is also guaranteed to disabled citizens under the Americans with Disabilities Act, which precludes discrimination by businesses on the basis of disability.

    In cases in which the patron is not a member of a federally protected class, the question generally turns on whether the business’s refusal of service was arbitrary, or whether the business had a specific interest in refusing service.

  • Guest

    The point is:  With both a cat or a child, there is an assumed responsibility.  Either you compensate for the fact you have a pet and make arrangements so that you can take a trip or you cease to be a responsible pet-owner.  A child is a responsibility.  Just because having a child may affect you from doing things you need to do to take care of yourself and your life, such as making a trip, going out on a date (if you’re single), eating in a restaurant, you need to realize you have a priority: a child, that comes before everything including yourself and your very own desires that aren’t necessary for your survival or your mental well-being.  This is sometimes tossed to the side by trying to pursue selfish activities and toting the child around with you while you do whatever you want.  That is irresponsible parenting and completely inconsiderate of those around you.  

    People feel so *required* by society to have children though, it’s a brainwashing of its own… where somehow since we are *supposed* to have children, somehow society is just supposed to bend over and accommodate to us because we did what we thought we were supposed to do.  Because of this acting-before-thinking-about-what-we-really-want mentality or this needing-to-do-something-but-not-know-why mentality, parents are shocked, horrified, and outraged at the societal injustices they face as parents when often it turns out it must have not really been that well thought out to begin with and a lot more people have much more responsibility than they actually can handle.  Listen, just because you can have children doesn’t mean you should.  The whole “straight relationship,” “sex for procreation” thing is not only an outdated, religious propaganda idea, but also completely irrelevant today where we now know we can, in fact, have guiltless pleasureful sex and have no pressure whatsoever on us to “keep humanity alive.”  I really wish people would think about WHY they need or want to have children and I think they would often find it’s for sick, twisted reasons used to further validate their egotistical, self-absorbed, irresponsible asses.  Ooohhh, flame on.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TMA3THUS6SFK2OJ3UTTGXD6ZPA At the end of desire…wisdom.

    I’m with you on this one. A few years ago in a local grocery store, I was hit from behind with a shopping cart being wielded by a vicious little brat who was running around the store like a banshee. He and his four siblings were racing up and down the aisles while their mother was meandering around and paying ABSOLUTELY NO attention to her band of heathen whelps. The blow from the shopping cart cut my heel and bruised my heel bone. After being struck, I snatched up the little perp and marched him to the manager’s office and demanded that the woman be summoned. When she arrived huffing with indignation while the remainder of her children continued to use the grocery store as their private rumpus room, I informed the mother that she was responsible for the injury (which required 4 stitches) and that if she didn’t do something to control her little monsters, I WOULD. She then tried to get angry about me grabbing her son (he was about 8) by his collar and forcing him to go to the manager’s office.

    Long story short, the police had to be called to restrain the woman and corral her bastard get. She was arrested and charged and I spent the afternoon in the emergency room getting stitches. She and her brood were banned from that store and she was fined and had to pay my medical bill.

    Parents, CONTROL YOUR CHILDREN. In society, a certain level of civilized conduct is demanded EVEN FROM CHILDREN. If your children cannot behave, keep them at home until such a time as you’ve instilled proper home-training and they won’t be a menace to innocent bystanders. The rest of the world should not have to tolerate your ill-mannered, undisciplined offspring simply because you’re too lazy or inept to teach them to act like humans.

    As for the restaurant banning children, who are often disruptive and tend to create a huge mess than wait staff have to clean up, I have no problem with that. The world is not a kindergarten. There should be some spaces where adults can go to eat and socialize peacefully without the intrusion of other people’s children screaming, running amok or throwing chicken fingers. If the restaurant chooses to restrict children due to their disruptive prescence, that should be their right. They owe their other patrons the opportunity to have their meals in peace.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TMA3THUS6SFK2OJ3UTTGXD6ZPA At the end of desire…wisdom.

    You’re one of those inattentive parents who allows their demon spawn to run roughshod over anyone at anytime, aren’t you?

    It’s like this, sweetie, control your get. If they injure or harass others, those others DO have the right to a reasonable response….a response that you might find less than palatable. GoodDoktorBad reacted with admirable restraint and control under the circumstances.

    As for you and your misplaced, smug, self-centered response, grow the fuck up. The world does not revolve around you and your crotch-fruit and your kids aren’t special or dear to the rest of us. If it acts like a beast, it should be restrained like a beast. If you have a problem with that, tough. Your children don’t get to ignore the rules of civilized society simply because you’re unable to contol them.

     

  • Anonymous

    You meant to reply to Foolish, right? My kid is now 13, but when he was little, if he made a fuss in a restaurant, we left the table & went outside until he got his act together again. If he couldn’t use his “restaurant manners,” he didn’t get to go. If he threw a tantrum instead of using his words, he caught hell for it, and he got the message early on. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times he lost his shit in public.

  • Hws

    next time, smack the parent