Texas Governor Organizes Statewide Prayer To Jesus

National_Prayer_Day_Rick_Perry_governor.350w_263hWatch the batshit insanity unfold as Texas governor Rick Perry proclaims a statewide day of fasting and prayer to Jesus to solve “economic collapse, natural disaster, terrorism” and your “troubles paying your bills” — all things that the governor says are “spiritual issues.”

It’s dubbed The Response, and involves Texans simultaneously praying on August 6 so as to “make a sound that will be heard in the heavens,” with a football stadium in Houston as the focal point. Also, it’s kind of a response to New York’s legalization of gay marriage, and other governors are invited:

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168 Responses to Texas Governor Organizes Statewide Prayer To Jesus

  1. Mr. Coffee July 6, 2011 at 2:04 pm #

    That’ll teach those yellow bellied liberals to DONT MESS WITH TEXAS

    • GoodDoktorBad July 6, 2011 at 2:51 pm #

      …or Jesus will smite you -bitches!

    • Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 1:47 am #

      No proper liberal should be littering anyway.

      (“Don’t Mess With Texas” originated as a slogan on signs along the highways intended to discourage littering… it was invented by the Texas DoT)

      • Mr. Coffee July 7, 2011 at 5:21 am #

        No kidding? I would have never parodied it if I had known that.

        • Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 3:26 am #

          Oh no, parody away. It really begs for it.

    • 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 10:38 am #

      Ugh. Please. 

      As a direct descendant of DEMOCRATIC President James K. Polk and a member of a family of strong, PROUD Liberals, Texas wouldn’t even be a state if it weren’t for us. Something for which we’d like to wholeheartedly apologize to the rest of the country for. Polk brought Washington, Oregon, California and regrettably, Texas into the Union. Well, 3 out of 4 ain’t bad…

      And we did this, because Democrats actually WIN wars.
      But if Rick Perry truly wants to secede, I say good riddance, Texas.

  2. Mr. Coffee July 6, 2011 at 6:04 pm #

    That’ll teach those yellow bellied liberals to DONT MESS WITH TEXAS

  3. VoxMagi July 6, 2011 at 2:22 pm #

    Next stop: religious schools for all and criers calling the faithful to prayer from minarets. The faithful shall bow toward their chosen holy place as one. They shall consider their way of life superior to all others and attempt to force their beliefs on others no matter what the others faiths may be. The women shall be obedient to the men and not consort with strangers or be seen behaving wickedly in public. Lawbreakers shall be brutally executed. The wealthy shall live like kings free of all laws while shipping oil to thirsty markets elsewhere. Guns will be waved about at random and fired with little reason. Violent splinter groups shall arm themselves, commit crimes and face harsh oppression by the state after being labeled as terrorists.

    Whoops…looks like I’m too late on this one. 

    • 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 10:24 am #

      Seriously, that’s not far from the truth of what these people want. Most assume that the Republicans want to take us back to the 1950′s, but the truth is, even going back to the 1850′s isn’t enough for them. They want a return to the Middle Ages —  pre Age of Enlightenment and the Renaissance, when all this independent thinking stuff started.

      If you listen to the main “thinkers” behind all this rightwing Christian stuff, you find people like RJ Rushdooney, who literally wants Biblical Law to supersede Constitutional Law. He and his fellow Dominionists want people to be stoned for “sins” like sex outside of marriage or homosexuality. And they are profoundly racist as well, truly believing that God gave them “dominion over the dusky races”. It’s some scary shit at the base of all this. And the Michelle Bachmann’s and Rick “Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific” Perry’s of the world really want to bring that to this country.

      The truth is, it’s PROFOUNDLY anti-American, and it needs to be called out as such. 

      These people are just the flip side of the same coin the Muslim extremists are on. They are mirror images of each other, feeding each other’s fears, and the rest of us are allowing ourselves to be caught up between their collective insanity. These people need to be marginalized as the wackadoodles they really are — not voted for.

  4. VoxMagi July 6, 2011 at 6:22 pm #

    Next stop: religious schools for all and criers calling the faithful to prayer from minarets. The faithful shall bow toward their chosen holy place as one. They shall consider their way of life superior to all others and attempt to force their beliefs on others no matter what the others faiths may be. The women shall be obedient to the men and not consort with strangers or be seen behaving wickedly in public. Lawbreakers shall be brutally executed. The wealthy shall live like kings free of all laws while shipping oil to thirsty markets elsewhere. Guns will be waved about at random and fired with little reason. Violent splinter groups shall arm themselves, commit crimes and face harsh oppression by the state after being labeled as terrorists.

    Whoops…looks like I’m too late on this one. 

  5. Butter Knife July 6, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    So what?

    I’m serious, what’s the big deal? He’s apparently doing this on his own time, and doesn’t appear to be using state resources. He has the right to his own religious views, as do the rest of us.

    I don’t agree with Governor Perry’s politics, nor do I share his religion, and I certainly don’t believe that this event will accomplish anything… but why should I have a problem with it? Why should I criticize a harmless, meaningless event? I have plenty of perfectly valid reasons to think he’s an idiot and a poor leader… this isn’t one of them.

    • Guest July 6, 2011 at 2:42 pm #

      because they need to wake up and actually THINK about things instead of instead of getting all emotional and praying to a long dead jew?

      • SF2K01 July 6, 2011 at 3:27 pm #

        Americans still have the right to believe whatever they want, even when that belief is stupid as all hell.

        • bobbiethejean July 6, 2011 at 5:30 pm #

           Yeah, and we have the right to point out how fucking stupid those beliefs are.

        • Anarchy Pony July 6, 2011 at 10:04 pm #

          It’s more than just a belief dip shit, it’s an entire belief structure that legitimizes all kinds of oppressive and destructive behaviors. When will people figure out that religions aren’t just fashion choices, they set up a person’s entire worldview and moral structures, dictates what is and isn’t acceptable what should be and shouldn’t be done. It’s not like choosing between a red car or a blue car.

          • Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 1:24 am #

            Christianity doesn’t have to be repressive and hateful, and many Christians don’t believe in that nonsense. A lot of good things have come about, in part, because of religious convictions. Including Christian ones.

            Don’t let the fact that a very vocal minority are complete fuck wits
            color your view of the ones who aren’t. It’s just that kind of smug
            self-righteousness and hypocrisy that makes many Christians intolerable assholes: don’t fall into the same trap, lest you become one too.

          • Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 3:34 am #

            Come vist West Michigan sometime and talk to some of the religious groups we have around here. There is no diversity within any of the churches here. They all agree theologically and politically. My county of Ottawa just west of Grand Rapids votes about 74% GOP. The rest don’t get involved with the church. I attended churches here and I always left over some kind of biggoted shit they crammed down my throat. You gotta understand after a life like that it leaves one with an very irreligious taste in their mouth. Yes there are a few liberal churches out there they are the minority.

          • Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 3:08 am #

            I’m sorry to hear that.

            As a counter-example, the churches where I grew up in Western Massachusetts are quite liberal. Many have large groups participating in (not protesting) the Northampton Pride March every year. A couple of years ago one of the largest, oldest and most prestigious churches in the area spent several months publicly examining the Bible, in it’s entirety, for a single passage that clearly forbids homosexuality to anyone except Rabbis (who are forbidden from doing all sorts of things for purposes of remaining ritually pure… and is of little consequence to Christians, who view Jesus as having replaced the Old Covenant under which such purity was necessary with a New Covenant – at least, that’s what liberal protestantism asserts), and publicly concluded that it does not. One of the larger Episcopal churches in the area temporarily suspended performing ALL marriages, when that denomination briefly prohibited them from performing same-sex marriages after it was made legal.

            My point being, the churches you have experienced are not the only churches in existence. I agree with you that many are frequented and led by extremely unpleasant people with extremely unpleasant views, and that such people and views need to be challenged. I don’t agree that they are a meaningful majority, or that they are a good indicator of what all churches believe. i also don’t believe that most of those churches are all bad, as even the ones which routinely preach intolerance and hate might still provide significant assistance to the poor or other worthy causes. It may not erase the ugliness of bigotry to feed the hungry or shelter the homeless or care for the sick… but it certainly adds some beauty to the whole, however flawed it may be.

            I have no idea if Christianity is a net good or a net evil in the world, and frankly, given the potentially private nature of what people actually believe, I don’t think any such assessment can be made in good faith. I do know that denouncing a major world religion based on the actions and deeds of a relatively few practitioners is, at the least, extremely irresponsible.

          • Anarchy Pony July 7, 2011 at 2:37 pm #

            Yeah, I am not talking about just Christianity. And no, not really anything good has come about because of christianity. 

          • 124816 July 9, 2011 at 8:34 am #

            I’m pretty sure christian monks are the reason we still have access to the literature of the ancient world.

          • Leornere July 9, 2011 at 9:28 am #

            Although I can well imagine that a number of Christian monks did indeed hide some literature during the Church’s crackdown on dissidents (from the early middle ages to the inquisition), the Arabic world, actually, is credited with maintaining a great deal of otherwise lost ancient knowledge (e.g., algebra, chemistry, biology, etc). The Church had this information burnt, in the hope of annihilating alternative thinking.

          • Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 2:30 am #

            Just in US history, virtually every progressive rights movement has had devout Christians at the core. The biggest exception is the gay rights movement. Many of those directly credited their faith as inspiring them to fight for equality and justice, and gave Biblical citations urging tolerance, freedom, equality and universal fraternity.

            For example, see: the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

            To this day, many homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food banks and other organizations existing to serve and help the poor and destitute are run by churches.

            For example, see: Dorothy’s Place in Salinas, CA

            One of the largest, longest running, most consistent, most successful, most action-oriented and in many ways most radical movements for pacifism, human rights, racial and gender equality, workers’ rights, religious tolerance, and basically any other modern “liberal” ideal is the Quakers, who adopted many of them in the 1600s, when doing so was not only un-fashionable, but often bordering on illegal. The amount of good done by that denomination is enormous, and even more so because it has never been a particularly large or powerful sect.

            So, yes, I think it’s fair to say that good things have come out of Christianity. i also think it’s fair to say terrible things have come from it. What isn’t fair is to deny the existence of either.

          • SF2K01 July 7, 2011 at 7:33 am #

            Wow it’s almost like Christianity is some kind of ideology that acts just like every other group of people in history. If you really think Christianity is somehow magically worse you have no idea what you’re talking about. At it’s base it is a belief system free to help people or be abused by people like any other in existence. It’s true for religions just as much as any political party or other ideology. The only thing unique about today’s world, at least in America, is the willingness of people to intermix ideologies to make whatever they want.

        • Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 3:30 am #

          Its when they start acting out on that shit that I have a problem. They’re going to use a social divider in the midst of an economic crisis to divert attention away from shit that actually could be fixed.

    • maudrindead July 6, 2011 at 3:12 pm #

      And what’s the big deal with that Weiner thing? It’s his righ– Oh.

    • pissoffglobablists July 6, 2011 at 4:24 pm #

      Rick Perry KILLED the anti-groping bill that would have kept you, your mom, your daughter, your brother, your sister, your father, your grandma, your grandpa, your baby even, from being sexually molested every single time you fly.  Think about that!!!

      • Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 1:16 am #

        Really? How did he accomplish that? Did he hypnotize a congressperson? He’s a state governor, the extent of his influence on Federal law is that the people who actually make it might heed his advice… he has no direct say.

        The more I think about your claim, the more confused I become.

        • Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 3:28 am #

          Its a called veto dumbass. Ya know 14 states are in violation of federal law with the medical marijuana laws. Mine is one of those states. If enough states pass these laws the feds just have to deal with that shit.

          • SF2K01 July 7, 2011 at 7:22 am #

            For one, the bill never got out of the legislature so it would be impossible for him to have veto’d it. Second, he mandated the special session to introduce the the bill to the legislature in the first place so he was behind it all the way. Congratulations to you and pissoffglobalists on having no idea what happened. I recommend you reevaluate your sources of information.

          • Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 5:20 am #

            You are so off-base here I don’t know where to start.  …oh wait SF2K01 handled that pretty well

          • Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 3:12 am #

            As a State Governor, under what authority does he get to veto Federal Laws?

            More importantly, when did he veto it?

            I’m sorry that you think I’m a dumbass, but I feel obliged to assert that, perhaps, of the two of us, i am not the one to whom that epithet most closely hews.

    • bobbiethejean July 6, 2011 at 5:30 pm #

      Because it’s profoundly fucking stupid.

      • Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 1:31 am #

        And?

        People do profoundly fucking stupid things every day. This one is relatively harmless.

        Every bit of energy spent bitching about this is energy NOT spent on actually accomplishing anything. Kind of like the event itself.

        So, basically, this is a pot-kettle-black situation. Have fun with it.

        • Anarchy Pony July 7, 2011 at 2:38 pm #

          Stop being a shit heeled little apologist.

          • Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 5:15 am #

            Don’t get pissy just because you don’t have answer, guy.  

          • Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 3:13 am #

            An apologist would explain why rick Perry is right.

            I’m explaining why you’re wrong.

            Get it straight.

    • Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 5:19 am #

      I understand your point, but I have to agree with Guest: it proposes that prayer is a viable option to dealing with economic and security problems, and I think we can agree that the less people that think that the better.

      • Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 3:32 am #

        And I would agree that to the extent Rick Perry has failed to adequately address such issues in his capacity as governor, he should not be re-elected to that office, nor elected to one higher. Whether or not he prays about it, or the manner in which he does so, is of no consequence.

        Personally, I see no reason to believe that praying will hurt anything, so it either fails and it doesn’t matter, or by an actual miracle it works and it does… it doesn’t matter how much more likely the former is, because neither outcome is in any way adversely affected by the act of prayer.

        As for people believing that prayer will solve these problems… let’s be honest, do we really think anyone that stupid or apathetic is likely to be much help, anyway? If they’re too damned lazy to actually *do* something, it doesn’t really matter if they pray instead.

        Just to be contrarian, here’s a way in which it actually might help: one person might be inspired by this prayer event to actually go out and start fixing the world by doing something meaningful. That doesn’t even strike me as entirely unlikely.

        • Tuna Ghost July 11, 2011 at 4:50 am #

          Your point about stupid and apathetic people not being of much use anyway is seductive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if many of these people are voters.  I will grant your point that the prayer itself is not necessarily the problem but rather a symptom.

    • 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 10:30 am #

      Let’s do a compare and contrast, shall we? During his Presidency, Thomas Jefferson wouldn’t even walk into a church because it might appear to give an official state endorsement of a particular religion.

      Rick Perry by contrast, seems to have missed the meeting where they reviewed the U.S. Constitution.

      If Rick Perry wants to pray on his private time, nobody is stopping him from praying — PRIVATELY. 

      And frankly, since even Christ admired those who prayed privately over those who made a public show of their faith, what Rick Perry is doing isn’t all that good in God’s eyes either.

  6. Butter Knife July 6, 2011 at 6:24 pm #

    So what?

    I’m serious, what’s the big deal? He’s apparently doing this on his own time, and doesn’t appear to be using state resources. He has the right to his own religious views, as do the rest of us.

    I don’t agree with Governor Perry’s politics, nor do I share his religion, and I certainly don’t believe that this event will accomplish anything… but why should I have a problem with it? Why should I criticize a harmless, meaningless event? I have plenty of perfectly valid reasons to think he’s an idiot and a poor leader… this isn’t one of them.

  7. Rex Vestri July 6, 2011 at 2:26 pm #

    Rick Perry is a jackass. Period.  I’m a Texan, and I see the jackass for what he is. This is a publicity stunt designed to make himself look good in the eyes of the conservative religious wingnut cocksuckers that would love to impose their morals and beliefs on everybody else. Something tells me we will see the jackass announce that he’s gonna jump in the 2012 presidential race soon. Frightening.

    • Z-I- July 8, 2011 at 7:37 pm #

      As a fellow Texan I HEAR YA!! What an asshat he is and yes it looks like he will run, even if not this election we can be sure ol’Perry will be throwing his ass AND hat in the game sometime soon. Oh and as I’m sure we all know, he will win if he runs, period. How scary is that?!

      Question is-What do they plan to gain from all this praying and fasting? The problem is our own leaders and last time I checked GOD doesn’t intervene w/stupid people shit.
      Truly if there is anyone who needs to pray it would be Perry himself, after all he’s the closest thing to satan I can see around here…

  8. Rex Vestri July 6, 2011 at 6:26 pm #

    Rick Perry is a jackass. Period. 

  9. Anarchy Pony July 6, 2011 at 2:35 pm #

    So what happens when nothing happens? Do they just blame it on sinful wicked libruls, muslims, and treehuggers? Then launch the Dominionist crusade to take over america and slaughter all the various kinds of “infidels”?

    • DeepCough July 6, 2011 at 6:56 pm #

      I’m afraid that’s the most likely outcome.

      • Anarchy Pony July 6, 2011 at 10:08 pm #

        Well they won’t get me without a fight.

  10. Anarchy Wolf July 6, 2011 at 6:35 pm #

    So what happens when nothing happens? Do they just blame it on sinful wicked libruls, muslims, and treehuggers? Then launch the Dominionist crusade to take over america and slaughter all the various kinds of “infidels”?

  11. Guest July 6, 2011 at 2:40 pm #

    Hahahahahaha!

    Oh dear god i’m crying with laughter. God bless America!

  12. Guest July 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm #

    Hahahahahaha!

    Oh dear god i’m crying with laughter. God bless America!

  13. Guest July 6, 2011 at 6:42 pm #

    because they need to wake up and actually THINK about things instead of instead of getting all emotional and praying to a long dead jew?

  14. GoodDoktorBad July 6, 2011 at 2:45 pm #

    Jesus was described as a patient man, but after 2000 or so years of blubbering sycophants pleading for help, daddies old testament ways may soon look like a fine idea. 

  15. Anonymous July 6, 2011 at 6:45 pm #

    Jesus was described as a patient man, but after 2000 or so years of blubbering sycophants pleading for help, daddies old testament ways may soon look like a fine idea. 

  16. Anonymous July 6, 2011 at 6:51 pm #

    …or Jesus will smite you -bitches!

  17. D351 July 6, 2011 at 2:53 pm #

    lolz…Stupid Texas.

  18. D351 July 6, 2011 at 6:53 pm #

    lolz…Stupid Texas.

  19. maudrindead July 6, 2011 at 7:12 pm #

    And what’s the big deal with that Weiner thing? It’s his righ– Oh.

  20. Anonymous July 6, 2011 at 7:27 pm #

    Americans still have the right to believe whatever they want, even when that belief is stupid as all hell.

  21. reubenavery July 6, 2011 at 3:56 pm #

    Pray harder you fucking assholes!

  22. Anonymous July 6, 2011 at 7:56 pm #

    Pray harder you fucking assholes!

  23. Anonymous July 6, 2011 at 7:56 pm #

    Pray harder you fucking assholes!

  24. Wehavethepower July 6, 2011 at 4:17 pm #

    Government couldnt possibly be responsible for out of control spending and deregulating wall street, and surely theres nothing they could do to fix it. Telling us to pray is a SLAP IN THE FACE to the general popluation and nothing less, this asshole probably bust out laughing when the camera turned off. Try setting his house on fire, and then telling him to fucking pray for jesus to make rain and save it.

  25. Wehavethepower July 6, 2011 at 8:17 pm #

    Government couldnt possibly be responsible for out of control spending and deregulating wall street, and surely theres nothing they could do to fix it. Telling us to pray is a SLAP IN THE FACE to the general popluation and nothing less, this asshole probably bust out laughing when the camera turned off. Try setting his house on fire, and then telling him to fucking pray for jesus to make rain and save it.

  26. AoD July 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm #

    Typical religious nut move – “It’s all in God’s hands; I can’t do anything about it (I’m not even going to try) but pray.”  I can’t tell if this is a brilliant move on his part, or just plain kook.

  27. pissoffglobalists July 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm #

    you must really think people don’t have a clue about your globalist agenda that seeks to rob everyone of everything they have ever loved Rick Perry – you psychopath!

    • Tuna Ghost July 11, 2011 at 4:52 am #

      Rick Perry wants to take my guitars and my girlfriend and my job???  Holy shit he must be stopped by any means

  28. AoD July 6, 2011 at 8:21 pm #

    Typical religious nut move – “It’s all in God’s hands; I can’t do anything about it (I’m not even going to try) but pray.”  I can’t tell if this is a brilliant move on his part, or just plain kook.

  29. pissoffglobalists July 6, 2011 at 8:21 pm #

    you must really think people don’t have a clue about your globalist agenda that seeks to rob everyone of everything they have ever loved Rick Perry – you psychopath!

  30. pissoffglobablists July 6, 2011 at 8:24 pm #

    Rick Perry KILLED the anti-groping bill that would have kept you, your mom, your daughter, your brother, your sister, your father, your grandma, your grandpa, your baby even, from being sexually molested every single time you fly.  Think about that!!!

  31. E.B. Wolf July 6, 2011 at 4:34 pm #

    Perry is certainly a douchebag, and praying is a waste of time, but there are plenty of Americans for whom regular fasting would do a lot of good.

  32. E.B. Wolf July 6, 2011 at 8:34 pm #

    Perry is certainly a douchebag, and praying is a waste of time, but there are plenty of Americans for whom regular fasting would do a lot of good.

  33. Bobbie Jean Pentecost July 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm #

    Because it’s profoundly fucking stupid.

  34. Bobbie Jean Pentecost July 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm #

    Because it’s profoundly fucking stupid.

  35. Bobbie Jean Pentecost July 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm #

     Yeah, and we have the right to point out how fucking stupid those beliefs are.

  36. Bobbie Jean Pentecost July 6, 2011 at 9:30 pm #

     Yeah, and we have the right to point out how fucking stupid those beliefs are.

  37. DeepCough July 6, 2011 at 10:56 pm #

    I’m afraid that’s the most likely outcome.

  38. DeepCough July 6, 2011 at 10:56 pm #

    I’m afraid that’s the most likely outcome.

  39. Nunya July 6, 2011 at 7:11 pm #

    The most frightening thing about this is the Gov thinks the problems he listed are too big for us to handle without divine intervention….and people elected this guy for that very purpose.

    You should be humble in your success not in your failures.

  40. Nunya July 6, 2011 at 11:11 pm #

    The most frightening thing about this is the Gov thinks the problems he listed are too big for us to handle without divine intervention….and people elected this guy for that very purpose.

    You should be humble in your success not in your failures.

  41. Tokingfire July 6, 2011 at 7:15 pm #

    Strangest thing: I clicked on the link to see more “intelligent Christians,” but alas, I didn’t find any. Go figure.

  42. Tokingfire July 6, 2011 at 11:15 pm #

    Strangest thing: I clicked on the link to see more “intelligent Christians,” but alas, I didn’t find any. Go figure.

  43. Keeblerdawg July 6, 2011 at 7:25 pm #

    “Batshit crazy” is right! Really! Discounting my personal beliefs and what I’ve seen of how screwed up government systems (and so on) are today, his idea of basically wishing and hoping these problems will all go away is purely insane. Wishing for and hoping for things to just happen gets absolutely nothing done.

  44. Keeblerdawg July 6, 2011 at 11:25 pm #

    “Batshit crazy” is right! Really! Discounting my personal beliefs and what I’ve seen of how screwed up government systems (and so on) are today, his idea of basically wishing and hoping these problems will all go away is purely insane. Wishing for and hoping for things to just happen gets absolutely nothing done.

  45. FergalR July 6, 2011 at 8:04 pm #

    Perry is Bilderberg.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14c_1181174511

    He’s about as Christian as Anton LaVey.

    • Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 3:38 am #

      FergalR go back to infowars. Yes bilderberg really sucks they’re not a social group but an economic group. They don’t care about social policy they care about monetary policy. I doubt very few if any people who attend have any faith in anything at all besides the wealth. So that whole bilderberg = satanism argument is kinda without evidence. Now that bohemian grove shit that is some nasty wicked occult type stuff.

      • 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 10:41 am #

        Really. Bilderberg doesn’t need the extra help of Satan to be evil, anymore than people need God to be good. The Bilderberg Group has that whole evil thing covered all on their own by being a bunch of rich, self-absorbed pompous, Corporatist asshats.

  46. Anonymous July 7, 2011 at 12:04 am #

    Perry is Bilderberg.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14c_1181174511

    He’s about as Christian as Anton LaVay.

  47. Anarchy Wolf July 7, 2011 at 2:04 am #

    It’s more than just a belief dip shit, it’s an entire belief structure that legitimizes all kinds of oppressive and destructive behaviors. When will people figure out that religions aren’t just fashion choices, they set up a person’s entire worldview and moral structures, dictates what is and isn’t acceptable what should be and shouldn’t be done. It’s not like choosing between a red car or a blue car.

  48. Anarchy Wolf July 7, 2011 at 2:08 am #

    Well they won’t get me without a fight.

  49. BlindDemiurge July 7, 2011 at 2:19 am #

    Those who can’t do, pray.

  50. BlindDemiurge July 6, 2011 at 10:19 pm #

    Those who can’t do, pray.

  51. Vic Bramble July 7, 2011 at 3:04 am #

    I don’t know whether I want more to blow out my brains or his

  52. Vic Bramble July 6, 2011 at 11:04 pm #

    I don’t know whether I want more to blow out my brains or his

  53. Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 5:16 am #

    Really? How did he accomplish that? Did he hypnotize a congressperson? He’s a state governor, the extent of his influence on Federal law is that the people who actually make it might heed his advice… he has no direct say.

    The more I think about your claim, the more confused I become.

  54. Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 5:24 am #

    Christianity doesn’t have to be repressive and hateful, and many Christians don’t believe in that nonsense. A lot of good things have come about, in part, because of religious convictions. Including Christian ones.

    Don’t let the fact that a very vocal minority are complete fuck wits
    color your view of the ones who aren’t. It’s just that kind of smug
    self-righteousness and hypocrisy that makes many Christians intolerable assholes: don’t fall into the same trap, lest you become one too.

  55. Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 5:31 am #

    And?

    People do profoundly fucking stupid things every day. This one is relatively harmless.

    Every bit of energy spent bitching about this is energy NOT spent on actually accomplishing anything. Kind of like the event itself.

    So, basically, this is a pot-kettle-black situation. Have fun with it.

  56. Butter Knife July 7, 2011 at 5:47 am #

    No proper liberal should be littering anyway.

    (“Don’t Mess With Texas” originated as a slogan on signs along the highways intended to discourage littering… it was invented by the Texas DoT)

  57. LogicOfCrocodiles July 7, 2011 at 1:52 am #

    Did he say ‘The Book of Joel’ at 0:30?  I believe that book is in the Hebrew Bible and not in standard Christian Bibles. Is Rick Perry a closet Jew?

    • SF2K01 July 7, 2011 at 7:11 am #

      Joel is one of the twelve minor prophets so called because each one was far too short to get their own scroll back in the day when scribes were expensive and were compiled into one scroll fittingly called the twelve minor prophets which is in every single bible Jewish or Christian. As usual, a lack of basic information breeds conspiracy theories. What would be the point of him even being a so called closet Jew?

  58. Anonymous July 7, 2011 at 5:52 am #

    Did he say ‘The Book of Joel’ at 0:30?  I believe that book is in the Hebrew Bible and not in standard Christian Bibles. Is Rick Perry a closet Jew?

  59. Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 7:28 am #

    Its a called veto dumbass.

  60. Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 7:30 am #

    Its when they start acting out on that shit that I have a problem. They’re going to use a social divider in the midst of an economic crisis to divert attention away from shit that actually could be fixed.

  61. Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 7:34 am #

    Come vist West Michigan sometime and talk to some of the religious groups we have around here. There is no diversity within any of the churches here. They all agree theologically and politically. My county of Ottawa just west of Grand Rapids votes about 74% GOP. The rest don’t get involved with the church. I attended churches here and I always left over some kind of biggoted shit they crammed down my throat. You gotta understand after a life like that it leaves one with an very irreligious taste in their mouth. Yes there are a few liberal churches out there they are the minority.

  62. Josh Davis July 7, 2011 at 7:38 am #

    FergalR go back to infowars. Yes bilderberg really sucks they’re not a social group but an economic group. They don’t care about social policy they care about monetary policy. I doubt very few if any people who attend have any faith in anything at all besides the wealth. So that whole bilderberg = satanism argument is kinda without evidence. Now that bohemian grove shit that is some nasty wicked occult type stuff.

  63. Hadrian999 July 7, 2011 at 4:43 am #

    i’ll never understand why the world thinks we’re all a bunch of inbred yokels….

  64. Hadrian999 July 7, 2011 at 8:43 am #

    i’ll never understand why the world thinks we’re all a bunch of inbred yokels….

  65. Hadrian999 July 7, 2011 at 8:43 am #

    i’ll never understand why the world thinks we’re all a bunch of inbred yokels….

  66. Mr. Coffee July 7, 2011 at 9:21 am #

    No kidding? I would have never parodied it if I had known that.

  67. Anonymous July 7, 2011 at 11:11 am #

    Joel is one of the twelve minor prophets so called because each one was far too short to get their own scroll back in the day when scribes were expensive and were compiled into one scroll fittingly called the twelve minor prophets which is in every single bible Jewish or Christian. As usual, a lack of basic information breeds conspiracy theories. What would be the point of him even being a so called closet Jew?

  68. Anonymous July 7, 2011 at 11:22 am #

    For one, the bill never got out of the legislature so it would be impossible for him to have veto’d it. Second, he introduced the bill to the legislature in the first place so he was behind it all the way. Congratulations to you and pissoffglobalists on having no idea what happened. I recommend you reevaluate your sources of information.

  69. Anonymous July 7, 2011 at 11:33 am #

    Wow it’s almost like Christianity is some kind of ideology that acts just like every other group of people in history. If you really think Christianity is somehow magically worse you have no idea what you’re talking about. At it’s base it is a belief system free to help people or be abused by people like any other in existence. It’s true for religions just as much as any political party or other ideology. The only thing unique about today’s world, at least in America, is the willingness of people to intermix ideologies to make whatever they want.

  70. Gregory Wheeler July 7, 2011 at 8:05 am #

    Them Texans are gonna “make a mighty sound
    that will be heard in heaven,” way up there in the sky, where Jesus
    ascended (using some kind of fancy, personalized anti-gravitational technology)
    and…entered deep space, where there is no air to carry sound waves…or
    breathe. But if you can survive crucifixion, and defy gravity, you can carry
    an endless supply of oxygen I am guessing and of course radiation and a little
    cold won’t be a problem for you.   So I’m guessing Jesus is about 2 thousand
    light years away right now, and not yet out of our galaxy, so there’s a chance
    he could come back.  If He heard this mighty cry (I’m guessing by remote viewing and hearing), and started right now, he
    could come back and take over this world of corruption and pollution and moral
    relativism by, say, 2212!!!  So this mighty
    cry could be THE pivotal event in history! 
    Thank you Pastor Governor Rick Perry, Prophet of All Texas.  When Jesus gets back He’s gonna kick some
    government ass, big time.  

  71. Gregory Wheeler July 7, 2011 at 12:05 pm #

    Them Texans are gonna “make a mighty sound
    that will be heard in heaven,” way up there in the sky, where Jesus
    ascended (using some kind of fancy, personalized anti-gravitational technology)
    and…entered deep space, where there is no air to carry sound waves…or
    breathe. But if you can survive crucifixion, and defy gravity, you can carry
    an endless supply of oxygen I am guessing and of course radiation and a little
    cold won’t be a problem for you.   So I’m guessing Jesus is about 2 thousand
    light years away right now, and not yet out of our galaxy, so there’s a chance
    he could come back.  If He heard this mighty cry (I’m guessing by remote viewing and hearing), and started right now, he
    could come back and take over this world of corruption and pollution and moral
    relativism by, say, 2212!!!  So this mighty
    cry could be THE pivotal event in history! 
    Thank you Pastor Governor Rick Perry, Prophet of All Texas.  When Jesus gets back He’s gonna kick some
    government ass, big time.  

  72. cakey pig July 7, 2011 at 9:18 am #

    Positively fucking medieval.

  73. Anonymous July 7, 2011 at 1:18 pm #

    Positively fucking medieval.

  74. Guest July 7, 2011 at 9:36 am #

    “2000 years ago we were all tribal.

    Then came the missionaries with their fucking bible.

    1492 began the termination

    The holocaust of our Indian nations

    Yeah, with Christian love and a moral authority

    They killed our medicine men and stole our country

    I never claimed this shit was poetry

    It’s just the fucking lies of Christianity

    You will pray to the lord and get down on your knees

    Here’s a cross for your back and the coughing disease

    Though you helped us survive we will laugh while you bleed

    Then deny what we did, write our own history

    We will kidnap your children and cut off their hair

    Silence their language and outlaw their prayers

    Beat them blind until they believe

    In the blood of Jesus Christ our king

    Christians murdered Indians

    Columbus murdered children and now we have a holiday

    Still you want to deny your history

    Look to the sky for your god to justify

    As you commit cultural genocide

    Christians came and the natives they did hang

    13 at a time for Jesus and his gang

    We are the ones you had to dehumanize

    So your murder and greed could be justified

    The belly of the church is full

    With the blood of all those heathen fools

    Who would not receive the gift of Christ?

    So we burned them as a sacrifice

    To our baby killing god above

    To our mother church and all her love

    We will steal their gods and subjugate

    Those who don’t believe we’ll annihilate”

    Corporate Avenger – Christians Murdered Indians Lyrics

  75. Guest July 7, 2011 at 1:36 pm #

    “2000 years ago we were all tribal.

    Then came the missionaries with their fucking bible.

    1492 began the termination

    The holocaust of our Indian nations

    Yeah, with Christian love and a moral authority

    They killed our medicine men and stole our country

    I never claimed this shit was poetry

    It’s just the fucking lies of Christianity

    You will pray to the lord and get down on your knees

    Here’s a cross for your back and the coughing disease

    Though you helped us survive we will laugh while you bleed

    Then deny what we did, write our own history

    We will kidnap your children and cut off their hair

    Silence their language and outlaw their prayers

    Beat them blind until they believe

    In the blood of Jesus Christ our king

    Christians murdered Indians

    Columbus murdered children and now we have a holiday

    Still you want to deny your history

    Look to the sky for your god to justify

    As you commit cultural genocide

    Christians came and the natives they did hang

    13 at a time for Jesus and his gang

    We are the ones you had to dehumanize

    So your murder and greed could be justified

    The belly of the church is full

    With the blood of all those heathen fools

    Who would not receive the gift of Christ?

    So we burned them as a sacrifice

    To our baby killing god above

    To our mother church and all her love

    We will steal their gods and subjugate

    Those who don’t believe we’ll annihilate”

    Corporate Avenger – Christians Murdered Indians Lyrics

  76. Guest July 7, 2011 at 9:47 am #

    New Congress To Investigate Radicalization Of Christians, concerns over the infiltration and subjugation of the United States Government.

    http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/01/04/new-congress-to-investigate-radicalization-of-christians/

  77. Guest July 7, 2011 at 1:47 pm #

    New Congress To Investigate Radicalization Of Christians, concerns over the infiltration and subjugation of the United States Government.

    http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2011/01/04/new-congress-to-investigate-radicalization-of-christians/

  78. Jbar July 7, 2011 at 12:34 pm #

    My response:

    Let’s declare August 6, 2011, “AnalFest ’11,” Fuck An Ass Today. Everyone engage in anal sex throughout Texas. Gay, Straight, Bi, Transgendered, and/or any combination of the above. Counter these jesus-freak cocksuckers with some REAL holy action.

  79. Jbar July 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm #

    My response:

    Let’s declare August 6, 2011, “AnalFest ’11,” Fuck An Ass Today. Everyone engage in anal sex throughout Texas. Gay, Straight, Bi, Transgendered, and/or any combination of the above. Counter these jesus-freak cocksuckers with some REAL holy action.

  80. Jbar July 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm #

    My response:

    Let’s declare August 6, 2011, “AnalFest ’11,” Fuck An Ass Today. Everyone engage in anal sex throughout Texas. Gay, Straight, Bi, Transgendered, and/or any combination of the above. Counter these jesus-freak cocksuckers with some REAL holy action.

  81. Jbar July 7, 2011 at 4:34 pm #

    My response:

    Let’s declare August 6, 2011, “AnalFest ’11,” Fuck An Ass Today. Everyone engage in anal sex throughout Texas. Gay, Straight, Bi, Transgendered, and/or any combination of the above. Counter these jesus-freak cocksuckers with some REAL holy action.

  82. Anarchy Wolf July 7, 2011 at 6:37 pm #

    Yeah, I am not talking about just Christianity. And no, not really anything good has come about because of christianity. 

  83. Anarchy Wolf July 7, 2011 at 6:38 pm #

    Stop being a shit heeled little apologist.

  84. Adaugeo July 8, 2011 at 1:26 am #

    Joseph Gerbils
    (lead propagandist of the Nazis for those who need to read more history) also
    blended the concept of Christian faith and political party dedication for the
    benefit of the state. Mental and social poison is what this leads to. It will
    kill the independent mind and social diversity along with its evolution.

  85. Adaugeo July 8, 2011 at 5:26 am #

    Joseph Gerbils
    (lead propagandist of the Nazis for those who need to read more history) also
    blended the concept of Christian faith and political party dedication for the
    benefit of the state. Mental and social poison is what this leads to. It will
    kill the independent mind and social diversity along with its evolution.

  86. Adaugeo July 8, 2011 at 5:26 am #

    Joseph Gerbils
    (lead propagandist of the Nazis for those who need to read more history) also
    blended the concept of Christian faith and political party dedication for the
    benefit of the state. Mental and social poison is what this leads to. It will
    kill the independent mind and social diversity along with its evolution.

  87. thoughtcrime villian July 8, 2011 at 4:02 am #

    Im a Texan, and RICK PERRY IS A PIECE OF SHIT!!!! I’m an atheist, and as far as religion goes,Its like being jewish in the middle of Nazi germany. Except that instead of swastikas, It’s crosses that people hide behind.I know I read an article recently about agnostics filing a lawsuit against the high school because they force her son to pray with the rest of the graduating class.The judge did say it was against the church/state separation law, but in the end, the high school won. Yeah, fuck religion…

  88. thoughtcrime villian July 8, 2011 at 8:02 am #

    Im a Texan, and RICK PERRY IS A PIECE OF SHIT!!!! I’m an atheist, and as far as religion goes,Its like being jewish in the middle of Nazi germany. Except that instead of swastikas, It’s crosses that people hide behind.I know I read an article recently about agnostics filing a lawsuit against the high school because they force her son to pray with the rest of the graduating class.The judge did say it was against the church/state separation law, but in the end, the high school won. Yeah, fuck religion…

  89. Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 9:15 am #

    Don’t get pissy just because you don’t have answer, guy.  

  90. Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 9:19 am #

    I understand your point, but I have to agree with Guest: it proposes that prayer is a viable option to dealing with economic and security problems, and I think we can agree that the less people that think that the better.

  91. Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 9:20 am #

    You are so off-base here I don’t know where to start.  …oh wait SF2K01 handled that pretty well

  92. Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 5:23 am #

    Does this mean I can blame him when the problems don’t get fixed on account of him not praying hard enough?

  93. Tuna Ghost July 8, 2011 at 9:23 am #

    Does this mean I can blame him when the problems don’t get fixed on account of him not praying hard enough?

  94. Nuyorican94 July 8, 2011 at 4:45 pm #

    Okay I’m Christian and i know this is complete bullshit, are you kidding me this is only for publicity and to make people think he actually cares about them. BS. Religion should not be so ingrained in politics and should not be used to get publicity for someones political carer. 

  95. Nuyorican94 July 8, 2011 at 12:45 pm #

    Okay I’m Christian and i know this is complete bullshit, are you kidding me this is only for publicity and to make people think he actually cares about them. BS. Religion should not be so ingrained in politics and should not be used to get publicity for someones political carer. 

  96. Z-I- July 8, 2011 at 11:37 pm #

    As a fellow Texan I HEAR YA!! What an asshat he is and yes it looks like he will run, even if not this election we can be sure ol’Perry will be throwing his ass AND hat in the game sometime soon. Oh and as I’m sure we all know, he will win if he runs, period. How scary is that?!

    Question is-What do they plan to gain from all this praying and fasting? The problem is our own leaders and last time I checked GOD doesn’t intervene w/stupid people shit.
    Truly if there is anyone who needs to pray it would be Perry himself, after all he’s the closest thing to satan I can see around here…

  97. DeepCough July 9, 2011 at 2:06 am #

    I think I’ll punctuate this thread with some relevant quotes about this latest theocratic nonsense.

    “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they
    love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that
    they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received
    their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and
    pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in
    secret will reward you.” ~ Matthew 6:5-6″A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon
    devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal
    treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the
    other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has
    the gods on his side.” ~Aristotle”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Establishment Clause, First Amendment

  98. DeepCough July 8, 2011 at 10:06 pm #

    I think I’ll punctuate this thread with some relevant quotes about this latest theocratic nonsense.

    “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they
    love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that
    they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received
    their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and
    pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in
    secret will reward you.” ~ Matthew 6:5-6″A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon
    devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal
    treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the
    other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has
    the gods on his side.” ~Aristotle”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Establishment Clause, First Amendment

    • DeepCough July 10, 2011 at 12:51 am #

      Here’s a more readable version.

      “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they
      love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that
      they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received
      their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and
      pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in
      secret will reward you.” ~ Matthew 6:5-6

      “A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon
      devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal
      treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the
      other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has
      the gods on his side.” ~Aristotle

      “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Establishment Clause, First Amendment

      • Guest July 10, 2011 at 2:07 am #

        As a Texan I watch this fucktard pull all the basic slimy tricks outta his ass, and I am constantly baffled how easily it works!
        Thanks for pointing out that, no matter what angle you are coming from this guy is just a typical lying piece of shiet politician!!

        On another note; Does anyone else think it’s freaky that Reagan and Bush had a test tube baby?!

  99. Jamie Cox July 9, 2011 at 11:44 am #

    I think non-Christian Texans should sue…

  100. Jamie Cox July 9, 2011 at 7:44 am #

    I think non-Christian Texans should sue…

  101. 124816 July 9, 2011 at 12:34 pm #

    I’m pretty sure christian monks are the reason we still have access to the literature of the ancient world.

  102. Ginny Ann Tonick July 9, 2011 at 12:48 pm #

    I grew up in a very old and traditional mission and I’ve seen many charlatans.  This man is a charlatan.

  103. Ginny Ann Tonick July 9, 2011 at 8:48 am #

    I grew up in a very old and traditional mission and I’ve seen many charlatans.  This man is a charlatan.

  104. Leornere July 9, 2011 at 1:28 pm #

    Although I can well imagine that a number of Christian monks did indeed hide some literature during the Church’s crackdown on dissidents (from the early middle ages to the inquisition), the Arabic world, actually, is credited with maintaining a great deal of otherwise lost ancient knowledge (e.g., algebra, chemistry, biology, etc). The Church had this information burnt, in the hope of annihilating alternative thinking.

  105. 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 2:24 pm #

    Seriously, that’s not far from the truth of what these people want. Most assume that the Republicans want to take us back to the 1950′s, but the truth is, even going back to the 1850′s isn’t enough for them. They want a return to the Middle Ages —  pre Age of Enlightenment and the Renaissance, when all this independent thinking stuff started.

    If you listen to the main “thinkers” behind all this rightwing Christian stuff, you find people like RJ Rushdooney, who literally wants Biblical Law to supersede Constitutional Law. He and his fellow Dominionists want people to be stoned for “sins” like sex outside of marriage or homosexuality. And they are profoundly racist as well, truly believing that God gave them “dominion over the dusky races”. It’s some scary shit at the base of all this. And the Michelle Bachmann’s and Rick “Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific” Perry’s of the world really want to bring that to this country.

    The truth is, it’s PROFOUNDLY anti-American, and it needs to be called out as such. 

    These people are just the flip side of the same coin the Muslim extremists are on. They are mirror images of each other, feeding each other’s fears, and the rest of us are allowing ourselves to be caught up between their collective insanity. These people need to be marginalized as the wackadoodles they really are — not voted for.

  106. 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 2:30 pm #

    Let’s do a compare and contrast, shall we? During his Presidency, Thomas Jefferson wouldn’t even walk into a church because it might appear to give an official state endorsement of a particular religion.

    Rick Perry by contrast, seems to have missed the meeting where they reviewed the U.S. Constitution.

    If Rick Perry wants to pray on his private time, nobody is stopping him from praying — PRIVATELY. 

    And frankly, since even Christ admired those who prayed privately over those who made a public show of their faith, what Rick Perry is doing isn’t all that good in God’s eyes either.

  107. 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 2:38 pm #

    Ugh. Please. 

    As a direct descendant of DEMOCRATIC President James K. Polk and a member of a family of strong, PROUD Liberals, Texas wouldn’t even be a state if it weren’t for us. Something for which we’d like to wholeheartedly apologize to the rest of the country for. Polk brought Washington, Oregon, California and regrettably, Texas into the Union. Well, 3 out of 4 ain’t bad…

    And we did this, because Democrats actually WIN wars.
    But if Rick Perry truly wants to secede, I say good riddance, Texas.

  108. 5by5 July 9, 2011 at 2:41 pm #

    Really. Bilderberg doesn’t need the extra help of Satan to be evil, anymore than people need God to be good. The Bilderberg Group has that whole evil thing covered all on their own by being a bunch of rich, self-absorbed pompous, Corporatist asshats.

  109. DeepCough July 10, 2011 at 4:51 am #

    Here’s a more readable version.

    “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they
    love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that
    they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received
    their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and
    pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in
    secret will reward you.” ~ Matthew 6:5-6

    “A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon
    devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal
    treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the
    other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has
    the gods on his side.” ~Aristotle

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Establishment Clause, First Amendment

  110. Guest July 10, 2011 at 6:07 am #

    As a Texan I watch this fucktard pull all the basic slimy tricks outta his ass, and I am constantly baffled how easily it works!
    Thanks for pointing out that, no matter what angle you are coming from this guy is just a typical lying piece of shiet politician!!

    On another note; Does anyone else think it’s freaky that Reagan and Bush had a test tube baby?!

  111. Dallasz July 10, 2011 at 2:43 pm #

    Rick Perry called for a day of prayer last year.  My question is, why is it that all of a sudden everyone is touting his  action.  I think it has more to do with him running for president than it does his faith.  I live in Texas and think this is no more than what I said before.  He is in it for himself.  I heard that he is about to start going on trips to other states and would really like to know who is footing the bill.  Maybe he is getting it from the so called rainy day fund that he would not get into to save our schools.  Also the renovation of the govoners mantion. Why do we pay for him to live in so much luxury when so many of his constituants live barely getting by.   It is something to think about

  112. Dallasz July 10, 2011 at 6:43 pm #

    Rick Perry called for a day of prayer last year.  My question is, why is it that all of a sudden everyone is touting his  action.  I think it has more to do with him running for president than it does his faith.  I live in Texas and think this is no more than what I said before.  He is in it for himself.  I heard that he is about to start going on trips to other states and would really like to know who is footing the bill.  Maybe he is getting it from the so called rainy day fund that he would not get into to save our schools.  Also the renovation of the govoners mantion. Why do we pay for him to live in so much luxury when so many of his constituants live barely getting by.   It is something to think about

  113. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 6:30 am #

    Just in US history, virtually every progressive rights movement has had devout Christians at the core. The biggest exception is the gay rights movement. Many of those directly credited their faith as inspiring them to fight for equality and justice, and gave Biblical citations urging tolerance, freedom, equality and universal fraternity.

    For example, see: the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    To this day, many homeless shelters, soup kitchens, food banks and other organizations existing to serve and help the poor and destitute are run by churches.

    For example, see: Dorothy’s Place in Salinas, CA

    One of the largest, longest running, most consistent, most successful, most action-oriented and in many ways most radical movements for pacifism, human rights, racial and gender equality, workers’ rights, religious tolerance, and basically any other modern “liberal” ideal is the Quakers, who adopted many of them in the 1600s, when doing so was not only un-fashionable, but often bordering on illegal. The amount of good done by that denomination is enormous, and even more so because it has never been a particularly large or powerful sect.

    So, yes, I think it’s fair to say that good things have come out of Christianity. i also think it’s fair to say terrible things have come from it. What isn’t fair is to deny the existence of either.

  114. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 7:08 am #

    I’m sorry to hear that.

    As a counter-example, the churches where I grew up in Western Massachusetts are quite liberal. Many have large groups participating in (not protesting) the Northampton Pride March every year. A couple of years ago one of the largest, oldest and most prestigious churches in the area spent several months publicly examining the Bible, in it’s entirety, for a single passage that clearly forbids homosexuality to anyone except Rabbis (who are forbidden from doing all sorts of things for purposes of remaining ritually pure… and is of little consequence to Christians, who view Jesus as having replaced the Old Covenant under which such purity was necessary with a New Covenant – at least, that’s what liberal protestantism asserts), and publicly concluded that it does not. One of the larger Episcopal churches in the area temporarily suspended performing ALL marriages, when that denomination briefly prohibited them from performing same-sex marriages after it was made legal.

    My point being, the churches you have experienced are not the only churches in existence. I agree with you that many are frequented and led by extremely unpleasant people with extremely unpleasant views, and that such people and views need to be challenged. I don’t agree that they are a meaningful majority, or that they are a good indicator of what all churches believe. i also don’t believe that most of those churches are all bad, as even the ones which routinely preach intolerance and hate might still provide significant assistance to the poor or other worthy causes. It may not erase the ugliness of bigotry to feed the hungry or shelter the homeless or care for the sick… but it certainly adds some beauty to the whole, however flawed it may be.

    I have no idea if Christianity is a net good or a net evil in the world, and frankly, given the potentially private nature of what people actually believe, I don’t think any such assessment can be made in good faith. I do know that denouncing a major world religion based on the actions and deeds of a relatively few practitioners is, at the least, extremely irresponsible.

  115. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 7:12 am #

    As a State Governor, under what authority does he get to veto Federal Laws?

    More importantly, when did he veto it?

    I’m sorry that you think I’m a dumbass, but I feel obliged to assert that, perhaps, of the two of us, i am not the one to whom that epithet most closely hews.

  116. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 7:13 am #

    An apologist would explain why rick Perry is right.

    I’m explaining why you’re wrong.

    Get it straight.

  117. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 7:26 am #

    Oh no, parody away. It really begs for it.

  118. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 7:32 am #

    And I would agree that to the extent Rick Perry has failed to adequately address such issues in his capacity as governor, he should not be re-elected to that office, nor elected to one higher. Whether or not he prays about it, or the manner in which he does so, is of no consequence.

    Personally, I see no reason to believe that praying will hurt anything, so it either fails and it doesn’t matter, or by an actual miracle it works and it does… it doesn’t matter how much more likely the former is, because neither outcome is in any way adversely affected by the act of prayer.

    As for people believing that prayer will solve these problems… let’s be honest, do we really think anyone that stupid or apathetic is likely to be much help, anyway? If they’re too damned lazy to actually *do* something, it doesn’t really matter if they pray instead.

    Just to be contrarian, here’s a way in which it actually might help: one person might be inspired by this prayer event to actually go out and start fixing the world by doing something meaningful. That doesn’t even strike me as entirely unlikely.

  119. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 7:53 am #

    Incidentally, I have found something overtly offensive and anti-Christian about this event. The inclusion of a blatant political operative, whose entire career is predicated on merging religion and politics. from their “Leadership” page:

    “David Lane

    National Finance Chairman

    David Lane educates and energizes pastors to mobilize their
    congregations to vote their faith. In 2010 he organized pastor meetings
    in key battleground states resulting in a significant increase in voter
    turnout. He often says, “What I do is spiritual. The by-product is
    political.” David and Cindy were married in 1983, have 4 children and
    live in Thousand Oaks, California”

    Yuck.

    They also list most of the people behind the AFA, though they at least have the benefit of (mostly) being actual ministers and the like, providing them at least some semblance of credibility. Though it is hard to grasp why a conservative Christian organization would advocate deregulation of oil companies when their stated purpose is the promotion of “morality” in culture and society… it just seems like a complete non sequitur, if they’re being honest about their goals (hint: I don’t believe they are).

  120. Butter Knife July 11, 2011 at 3:53 am #

    Incidentally, I have found something overtly offensive and anti-Christian about this event. The inclusion of a blatant political operative, whose entire career is predicated on merging religion and politics. from their “Leadership” page:

    “David Lane

    National Finance Chairman

    David Lane educates and energizes pastors to mobilize their
    congregations to vote their faith. In 2010 he organized pastor meetings
    in key battleground states resulting in a significant increase in voter
    turnout. He often says, “What I do is spiritual. The by-product is
    political.” David and Cindy were married in 1983, have 4 children and
    live in Thousand Oaks, California”

    Yuck.

    They also list most of the people behind the AFA, though they at least have the benefit of (mostly) being actual ministers and the like, providing them at least some semblance of credibility. Though it is hard to grasp why a conservative Christian organization would advocate deregulation of oil companies when their stated purpose is the promotion of “morality” in culture and society… it just seems like a complete non sequitur, if they’re being honest about their goals (hint: I don’t believe they are).

  121. Tuna Ghost July 11, 2011 at 8:50 am #

    Your point about stupid and apathetic people not being of much use anyway is seductive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if many of these people are voters.  I will grant your point that the prayer itself is not necessarily the problem but rather a symptom.

  122. Tuna Ghost July 11, 2011 at 8:52 am #

    Rick Perry wants to take my guitars and my girlfriend and my job???  Holy shit he must be stopped by any means

  123. Jeffreypparksjr5 July 19, 2011 at 10:43 pm #

    ISIAIh 41 BRING forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you see they can’t
    speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. spalms 115
    and spalms 135 thier IDOLS are FALSE cant speak can’t hear cant smell
    and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail
    their IDOL down like a scarecrow it can’t move can’…t speak can’t move
    must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men.john 10 jesus
    christ sais his sheep hear his voice and another voice thy will not
    follow and if another person tries to preach to them they WILL FLEE from
    him. jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their own authority what will
    you do when your judged my word is not inside them. Now here is the
    kicker john 5 son of man voice goes back in time mathew 16 jesus christ
    claims to be the son of man.‎1 cor2 mind of CHRIST preached
    internally and john 16 sais the spirit of truth comes in the future.
    Ezekiel 13 lying prophets of ISRAEL my word is not inside them saying
    god sais god sais god sais wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their
    WORDS. all of this is EASILY verifiable.

  124. Jeffreypparksjr5 July 20, 2011 at 2:43 am #

    ISIAIh 41 BRING forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you see they can’t
    speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. spalms 115
    and spalms 135 thier IDOLS are FALSE cant speak can’t hear cant smell
    and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail
    their IDOL down like a scarecrow it can’t move can’…t speak can’t move
    must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men.john 10 jesus
    christ sais his sheep hear his voice and another voice thy will not
    follow and if another person tries to preach to them they WILL FLEE from
    him. jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their own authority what will
    you do when your judged my word is not inside them. Now here is the
    kicker john 5 son of man voice goes back in time mathew 16 jesus christ
    claims to be the son of man.‎1 cor2 mind of CHRIST preached
    internally and john 16 sais the spirit of truth comes in the future.
    Ezekiel 13 lying prophets of ISRAEL my word is not inside them saying
    god sais god sais god sais wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their
    WORDS. all of this is EASILY verifiable.

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