The Blue Eyes Of Terror Challenge The World To Respond

473px-Anders_Behring_Breivik_(Facebook_portrait_in_suit)Move over Osama bin Laden—I know you already have had in the physical sense —because you now have an emulator who borrows your tactics and inverts your ideology.

Anders Behring Breivik, is Norway’s candidate for the new world’s top living evil-doer and terror supremo having admitted to killing 93 young people and blowing up buildings in Oslo.

While Bin Laden castigated crusaders, Breivik salutes them in a 1518 page manifesto of madness. And his lawyer has rationalized his murder spree in a similar way to those who defended Al Qaeda as defending Islam.

The two are almost carbon copies. The Norwegian posted videos on You Tube while Bin Laden relied on TV communiqués.

One was killing in the name of Islam, the other in the name of Christianity.

Foreign Policy reports, ”Breivik’s lawyer said that his client admitted to the killings, but rejected ‘criminal responsibility.'” He described Breivik as being motivated to carry out the attacks by a desire to force radical change on Norwegian society.

“He has said that he believed the actions were atrocious, but that in his head they were necessary,” the lawyer said.

And now he’s pled not guilty. Of course!

Brievil has taken Islamaphobia to a new level of violence and killing, hoping to spark an uprising in Europe. He quotes from American websites that view all Muslims as Jihadists, and even the tract of the Unibomber.

The “Made in USA” stamp is all over this despicable act.

We can see how easily hate mongers abandon argument for agitation and vow death for all perceived enemies.

We can also see how quickly major media outlets jumped to the assumption that the perpertrators were Muslims, Al Qaeda killers or worse. All the “terror” experts did what was done before after the Oklahoma City bombings—blame the “other.”

Fox News led the rush to judgment with predictable Muslim bashing. CNN’s Ton Lister was not far behind, speculating early on:

“You’ve only got to look at the target–prime minister’s office, the headquarters of the major newspaper group next door. Why would that be relevant? Because the Norwegian newspapers republished the cartoons of Prophet Mohammad that caused such offense in the Muslim world….That is an issue that still rankles amongst Islamist militants the world over.”

Hmmm….

A resort to violence escalates when underlying prejudice is legitimated and is recycled adinfitem. Recently, members of Congress condemned a “ground Zero Mosque that was neither a mosque nor at Ground Zero. Demagogues whipped up anti-Islamic passions and promulgated stereotyping.

Protests against the protesters went largely unreported. Today, one time pizza company executve, Herman Cain, a Republican presidential candidate spews disdain of all Muslims.

Anwaar Hussain, a Pakistani by birth and blogger by vocation, offers a perspecvtive worth contemplating. May I quote him at length:

“Condolences, Norway. Our hearts ache for you in this time of incredible sadness and shock. As more than 90 of your families bury their dead, we stand with you in solemn sorrow.

And welcome to the world of right wing zombies.

These are words written by the citizen of a country that continues to reel from the onslaught of these androids. We understand your grief and your disbelief. But please understand that these human low-lifes go by many different names (i.e. fundamentalists, jihadists, radicals, extremists etc.), yet they all claim to get their instructions straight from their god.

Afterward, they go out to slaughter some children in the name of that god. We are sorry that you had to taste firsthand what we’ve been living through for the past twenty years. We were taken there, we have seen it all, we are still there.

From the Oslo carnage, three facts emerge as usual.

Firstly, these cowards always turn on their own first, attacking the most defenseless of the society for starters. It may be called the terror stage.

Secondly, the victims always refuse to believe that killer/s could be one/s of their own. In Pakistan, for a long time people said, “these killers can’t be Muslims”. And in Norway now when the killer is even confirmed as a blond, blue-eyed, indigenous Norwegian white right-wing extremist, their very own Anders Behring Bin Laden, people are saying, “he can’t be a Christian”.

Let us call it the denial stage which may linger on, as is in Pakistan, for decades before the victims can differentiate between their Messiahs and killers.

Thirdly, extremists come in every hue. What they have in common is extreme views and the conviction that they know what’s good for the rest of us.”

And here we are at a time of financial collapse and political stalemate when so many want simple explanations and symbolic enemies to go after. As our politics polarize in the USA, so does the world’s.

It’s shocking, but all too predictable.

Its time to take a stand for tolerance and mutual respect, and reject the simplistic attacks on multi-culteralism that stirs prejudice and reinforces racism by pandering politicians who play to the public’s fears.

It is a time to call a fascist a fascist and condemn this outbreak of violence that stains a great nation and troubles the world.

May our artists and politicians speak out before there are more copycat incidents.

May our educators stop their lesson plans and focus on the lessons of this dastardly deed against the youth of the county that gives us the Nobel Prize and helps poorer countries while the more affluent stand by and do nothing.

We can’t let this “incident” pass without a global media-led teach-in to turn the madness around. This happened in Norway, but the extremists are everywhere and will be emboldened unless a universal chorus of condemnation arises.

It will happen again and again until the teachers of hate are challenged and stopped. Journalists have a responsibility to take on the machinations of extremist views and groups and expose them for what they are.

Only then can we say that those young people at a Norwegian summer camp did not die in vain.

How many more of these ‘templars’ in fantasy costumes armed to the teeth are ready to destroy what democratic societies remain? With their fertilizer they make bombs out of bullshit.

One warning: Incidents like this invite armed overreactions as 9/11 did with military establishments. The beneficiary, even as the threat, is not a military one in the end.

We are all Norwegians now. Their loss must become our own. The duty to respond belongs to every person of conscience. Show some solidarity. Speak now or forever say goodbye to peace and justice.

News Dissector Danny Schechter writes the News Dissector.com blog. Comments to dissector@mediachannel.org

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Camron-Wiltshire/510662346 Camron Wiltshire

    http://www.infowars.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest/

    British news anchor questions how authorities were aware of Breivik’s identity in advancePaul Joseph Watson
    Infowars.com
    Monday, July 25, 2011
    Despite being portrayed by the media as inept due to the length of time it took them to reach the island of Utoeya, it has now emerged that police knew the name of gunman Anders Behring Breivik before they even arrested him, a startling admission that prompted one of Britain’s top news anchors to question how authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance.During his Channel 4 News broadcast on Friday evening, host Jon Snow asked “why police knew the killer’s name by the time they had arrived on the island,” reported the Telegraph live blog.“He surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him,” said Snow, who is recognized as one of Britain’s most trusted news anchors, and cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”.Read more here http://www.infowars.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Camron-Wiltshire/510662346 Camron Wiltshire

    http://www.infowars.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest/

    British news anchor questions how authorities were aware of Breivik’s identity in advancePaul Joseph Watson
    Infowars.com
    Monday, July 25, 2011
    Despite being portrayed by the media as inept due to the length of time it took them to reach the island of Utoeya, it has now emerged that police knew the name of gunman Anders Behring Breivik before they even arrested him, a startling admission that prompted one of Britain’s top news anchors to question how authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance.During his Channel 4 News broadcast on Friday evening, host Jon Snow asked “why police knew the killer’s name by the time they had arrived on the island,” reported the Telegraph live blog.“He surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him,” said Snow, who is recognized as one of Britain’s most trusted news anchors, and cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”.Read more here http://www.infowars.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest/

  • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Sacred Geometry International

    http://www.infowars.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest/

    British news anchor questions how authorities were aware of Breivik’s identity in advancePaul Joseph Watson
    Infowars.com
    Monday, July 25, 2011
    Despite being portrayed by the media as inept due to the length of time it took them to reach the island of Utoeya, it has now emerged that police knew the name of gunman Anders Behring Breivik before they even arrested him, a startling admission that prompted one of Britain’s top news anchors to question how authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance.During his Channel 4 News broadcast on Friday evening, host Jon Snow asked “why police knew the killer’s name by the time they had arrived on the island,” reported the Telegraph live blog.“He surrendered the moment police called his name 3 minutes after they arrived. What we don’t know is how the police knew the terrorist’s name before they arrested him,” said Snow, who is recognized as one of Britain’s most trusted news anchors, and cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”.Read more here http://www.infowars.com/police-knew-gunmans-name-before-arrest/

    • milkmandan

      Because the only rational response to that question is that they were “in on it”…

    • jasonpaulhayes

      You need a little more than to just say a News Anchor said “Authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance”. They knew his name in advance of what, talking to reporters? Many Police may have (of course) arrived on the Island after he was already identified … They do have watch lists and people who call in tips, the guy was making youtube videos, they have video of the vehicle used in the bombing to ID the owner of the vehicle, he shot for an hour and a half etc, etc, etc.

      Here are some FACTS though, that are proven to not be a conspiracy. There are over 1000 Hate Groups in the US and according to the FBI terrorist information website the majority of them are Christian Groups, not to mention that Infowars.com is a Right-Wing Christian Propaganda Machine. Nothing is going to change the fact that major Christian churches have been exposed teaching kids to become Holy Warriors and use violence. Alex Jones (infowars) and Bill O’Reilly said there is no way a Christian could be a “State Sponsored Terrorist” but at the same time Michelle and Marcus Bachmann TERRORIZE Gays with their “State Sponsored” Pray Away the Gay clinics.

      • Tuna Ghost

        Alex Jones (infowars) and Bill O’Reilly said there is no way a Christian could be a “State Sponsored Terrorist” but at the same time Michelle and Marcus Bachmann TERRORIZE Gays with their “State Sponsored” Pray Away the Gay clinics.
        Not to mention shooting abortion doctors, which can easily be described as terrorism.  

        • Factchecker.

          O stop it. Killing anyone is wrong [ even killers ] but abortion is a sophisticated EUGENICS program aimed at culling “people we do not want too many of” [ quote from US Supreme Court "Justice" Ruth Bader Ginsburg. ]  The eugenic nature of abortion works as it increases the risk of developing cancer in those who undergo the procedure & disrupts the chemical balance in the body so that the body miscarriages in the future when the host is TRYING to have a child.  All these are confirmed reported facts which the elite often try to hide from the public so that they are not aware of the inherent dangers of abortion – which is just a euphemism for genocide. 51 % of all Black people are NEVER born due to the impact of abortion. 50 million people have been eliminated since the “legalization” [ the overturning of the 9th & 10th Amendments of the  Constitution. ] Eugenics of not just about promoting a White elite because the nature of eugenics turns against those who promote it as it is a genocidal program. Abortion is part of the John Malthus program of population reduction. 

          • Tuna Ghost

            he eugenic nature of abortion works as it increases the risk of developing cancer in those who undergo the procedure & disrupts the chemical balance in the body so that the body miscarriages in the future when the host is TRYING to have a child.  All these are confirmed reported facts which the elite often try to hide from the public so that they are not aware of the inherent dangers of abortion – which is just a euphemism for genocide.

            That’s funny, I’m pretty sure those “confirmed reports” have all been discredited.  But I’m sure that’s just all part of the conspiracy, of course.  

          • Factchecker.

            Nice try propagandist but those confirmed reports are all within the public domain. 

            ABORTION CAUSES BREAST CANCER.

            By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
            December 26, 2003
            NewsWithViews.com

            Most women in the United States are unaware that having an abortion increases the risk of developing breast cancer. The fact that abortion causes breast cancer has been nearly completely suppressed by the media because it is a politically incorrect issue. More than 30 studies have confirmed a relationship between having an abortion and the subsequent development of breast cancer. Since 1960 there has been a surge in the number of women developing breast cancer in the USA. Currently every woman in this nation has between a 10 and 12% chance of developing breast cancer.

            Dr. Joel Brind, Professor of Biology and Endocrinology at Baruch College of the City College of New York has been crusading to get the information that abortion is a major factor in the causation of breast cancer to the public. Not one magazine or newspaper was willing to print his findings. His research was finally reported in Lancet, a fine English medical journal.

            When you enter a Planned Parenthood Clinic to have an abortion do they tell you that this procedure increases your chance of breast cancer by 50%? If a woman has an abortion at anytime, her chance of developing breast cancer goes up by at least 50%.

            From: http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james3.htm

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            Abortion increases cancer risk.

            DIANE S. DEW © 1993

            Reprinted from The Standard 4/6/93

            Women who have had abortions have a greater risk of developing breast cancer, The Washington Times reported Friday, and because of the increase in breast cancer risk, women are 200 times more likely to die from aborting their first pregnancy than from carrying the fetus to term.

            Delaying childbirth until later in life also increases one’s risk, studies show.

            Dr. Joel Brind, an endocrinologist and biologist now doing cancer research, was in Washington to bring his findings on breast cancer to the attention of the Congress. He met with both Senate and House staff members during his two-day visit, which was sponsored by the Ad Hoc Committee in Defense of Life, a Washington-based pro-life group.

            He has cited 19 other sources [see sidebar], including a 1986 Lancet article which states that “induced abortion before first-term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer.”

            “A woman who has a baby as a teenager has about a 7% lifetime risk of getting breast cancer, ” he said, “but a woman who aborts her first pregnancy has about double that risk — 15% or more.”

            From: http://www.dianedew.com/aborcanc.htm

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            Russo J, Russo I (1980). “Susceptibility of the mammary gland to carcinogenesis. II. Pregnancy interruption as a risk factor in tumor incidence”. Am J Pathol 100 (2): 505–506. PMC 1903536. PMID 6773421. “In contrast, abortion is associated with increased risk of carcinomas of the breast. The explanation for these epidemiologic findings is not known, but the parallelism between the DMBA-induced rat mammary carcinoma model and the human situation is striking. [...] Abortion would interrupt this process, leaving in the gland undifferentiated structures like those observed in the rat mammary gland, which could render the gland again susceptible to carcinogenesis.”.

            From: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1903536/?tool=pmcentrez

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            Study: Abortion Fueling Cancer Epidemic.

            Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:48 PM

            By: Sylvia Hubbard     Article Font Size 

            Having an abortion raises a woman’s risk of breast cancer by at least 30 percent, and is fueling an “epidemic” of the often fatal disease, according to British researchers.

            According to a new study published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, young women who had an abortion before having a child are at the greatest risk for developing breast cancer.

            The study’s lead author Patrick Carroll calls abortion the single “best predictor” of breast cancer trends.

            “An abortion in a young woman who has never had a child has a carcinogenic effect because it leaves breast cells in a state of interrupted hormonal development in which they are more susceptible,” says Carroll, director of research at PAPRI (Pension and Population Research Institute) in London.

            From: http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/abortion_breast_cancer/2007/12/04/54512.html 

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            In 1986, government scientists wrote a letter to the British journal Lancet and acknowledged that abortion is a cause of breast cancer.  They wrote, “Induced abortion before first term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer.”  (Lancet, 2/22/86, p. 436)

            From: http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com

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            I think you Eugenics apologists have to remember that folks can research this on their OWN to determine the facts & to discover the documented abortion cancer link.

          • Tuna Ghost

            Killing anyone is wrong [ even killers ]

            I love how you reduce a complicated debate on applied morality to a single statement.  

            …but abortion is a sophisticated EUGENICS program aimed at culling “people we do not want too many of” [ quote from US Supreme Court “Justice” Ruth Bader Ginsburg. 

            Really?  Women’s body rights have nothing to do with it?  Cases of incest or rape have nothing to do with it?  Valuing a fetus, which is not a “person” in any sense of the word, more than a living person means nothing to you, eh?  Why is it that practically everyone I meet who spouts this “abortion is eugencis” bullshit is a.) not a woman, and b.) white?

          • Factchecker.

            That was simply the flowery rhetoric that the POLITICIANS [ who take's a politician at their word? ] used to SELL THE PUBLIC on abortion. Abortion had to be dressed up as a “right” [ while neglecting to mention the right of the persons who are fatally affected by the procedure including often the hosts themselves ] because few would have got on board the abortion bandwagon if its true eugenicist face was more widely admitted. The right to life far outstrips the “rights” of the eugenicists who sold the public on consenting to their own genocide & harm.

            Cases of rape & incest are a red herrings. The notion that a “fetus” is not a person is legalistic [ unlawful ] jargon & a canard because their is no right to transgress up another human no matter what age they are. The “body rights” is another canard because abortion is HARMFUL to the bodies of those who have had the procedure & people must make an INFORMED decision.

            Abortion is eugenics as the elite from Thomas Multhus to Francis Galton have all mentioned that abortion is part of the eugenics program. How can it be “bullshit” when they say it themselves & write about it? Then you promote another canard regarding gender & race because a lot of females of many races have spoken out about abortion being a eugenics program. Jesse Jackson himself used to speak out about this before he ran for President.
             

      • Factchecker.

        The biggest hate group in the world is the STATE as governments have killed more people than any other human organization. Therefore the FBI calling someone else a “hate” group is just a little too rich & is the pot calling the kettle black. I seem to recall that it was the STATE which killed all those Iraq civilians of recent which was noted in Lancet. There is no group more dangerous & hateful than the State. The Founding Fathers knew about all this & is why they tried to create a MINIMALIST government. The infowars.com site is not a Right Wing Christian site at all because all they do is post news articles EXPOSING government corruption. They are similar to truthout.org & drudgereport.com. The most Right Wing instrument in all of human history has always been the State as it is the administrating mechanism of the Eugenicists who promote many programs aimed at genocide & population reduction.

  • Oneiric Imperium

    The Turner Diaries are at hand.

  • Oneiric Imperium

    The Turner Diaries are at hand.

  • milkmandan

    Because the only rational response to that question is that they were “in on it”…

  •    ♥   

    Religion is good for nothing but breeding violence in the name of a non-existent god or generating false hope.

    Nihilism ftw.

  •    ♥   

    Religion is good for nothing but breeding violence in the name of a non-existent god or generating false hope.

    Nihilism ftw.

    • Anarchy Pony

      Yeah no, fuck nihilism with a rusty fence post wrapped in barbed wire and coated with saltwater. 

    • Tuna Ghost

      Isn’t advocating nihilism sort of cutting off the branch you’re sitting on?

  • Anonymous

    I’m gonna cum right in your fucking eye, just like I did your mothers!

  • Salxx

    Do you really believe that this guy (patsy) wrote that stuff?

  • Salxx

    Do you really believe that this guy (patsy) wrote that stuff?

    • Ironaddict06

      NO.  He plagiarized most of it from ted kaczynski.

  • Anarchy Wolf

    Yeah no, fuck nihilism with a rusty fence post wrapped in barbed wire and coated with saltwater. 

  • MoralDrift

    Well unfortunately for Comedy Central’s Workaholics, the name Anders and its pronunciation will not be funny for the foreseeable future

  • Anonymous

    Well unfortunately for Comedy Central’s Workaholics, the name Anders and its pronunciation will not be funny for the foreseeable future

  • Anonymous

    Well unfortunately for Comedy Central’s Workaholics, the name Anders and its pronunciation will not be funny for the foreseeable future

  • Tuna Ghost

    Isn’t advocating nihilism sort of cutting off the branch you’re sitting on?

  • SF2K01

    As much as this article tries to draw parallels between OBL and ABB, he misses the important things that distinguish the two:

    1. ABB is a lone indivdual (some media reports have said that he might have a few associates) who doesn’t belong to any broad reaching organization. OBL was the leader of Al-Qaeda which has thousands of affiliates and is simply one of many terrorist groups with the same agenda.

    2. ABB’s goal was that killing a bunch of innocent people will somehow prevent an Islamic takeover (only a madman believes this is effective). OBL/AQ’s goal is to kill people to send a clear message: Submit to (our version of) Islam or expect consequences.

    3. ABB does not have any support from people on the ground, nor any celebrations of his actions. OBL and his ilk have millions of supporters across many nations, and not only were their attacks celebrated, but the people involved raised to a holy status.

    4. Following that, ABB’s attack will not gain his ideology any sympathy and is a political failure. OBL/AQ’s style of attack gained a lot of support with the Arab world by their attacks and was politically successful, gaining more followers than before.

    It was and is insane to argue that there aren’t any Christian/Right-wing/whatever terrorists. All terrorists are bad and Norway knows now if it didn’t before that you need to watch any group that espouses dangerous views and work to stop them and not pretend that they’re not a problem (like the way the US swept the Ft. Hood incident under the rug as much as possible).

  • Anonymous

    As much as this article tries to draw parallels between OBL and ABB, he misses the important things that distinguish the two:

    1. ABB is a lone indivdual (some media reports have said that he might have a few associates) who doesn’t belong to any broad reaching organization. OBL was the leader of Al-Qaeda which has thousands of affiliates and is simply one of many terrorist groups with the same agenda.

    2. ABB’s goal was that killing a bunch of innocent people will somehow prevent an Islamic takeover (only a madman believes this is effective). OBL/AQ’s goal is to kill people to send a clear message: Submit to (our version of) Islam or expect consequences.

    3. ABB does not have any support from people on the ground, nor any celebrations of his actions. OBL and his ilk have millions of supporters across many nations, and not only were their attacks celebrated, but the people involved raised to a holy status.

    4. Following that, ABB’s attack will not gain his ideology any sympathy and is a political failure. OBL/AQ’s style of attack gained a lot of support with the Arab world by their attacks and was politically successful, gaining more followers than before.

    It was and is insane to argue that there aren’t any Christian/Right-wing/whatever terrorists. All terrorists are bad and Norway knows now if it didn’t before that you need to watch any group that espouses dangerous views and work to stop them and not pretend that they’re not a problem (like the way the US swept the Ft. Hood incident under the rug as much as possible).

  • Gregory Wheeler

    I seem to remember some other blond, blue-eyed “terrorists” who did a whole lot of killing in the name of ethinic and racial purity.  If this mirroring principle holds, we just might become the terrorists we fight now.  The old meme will not die, it seems.  And that is why the entire galaxy has probably quarantined Earth.  It may be millenium or two before Rodenberry’s (or Rabbi Maimonides’) IDIC principle becomes a given on this planet.  Then we might be ready for some REAL ethnic and racial diversity.

  • Gregory Wheeler

    I seem to remember some other blond, blue-eyed “terrorists” who did a whole lot of killing in the name of ethinic and racial purity.  If this mirroring principle holds, we just might become the terrorists we fight now.  The old meme will not die, it seems.  And that is why the entire galaxy has probably quarantined Earth.  It may be millenium or two before Rodenberry’s (or Rabbi Maimonides’) IDIC principle becomes a given on this planet.  Then we might be ready for some REAL ethnic and racial diversity.

  • Gregory Wheeler

    I seem to remember some other blond, blue-eyed “terrorists” who did a whole lot of killing in the name of ethinic and racial purity.  If this mirroring principle holds, we just might become the terrorists we fight now.  The old meme will not die, it seems.  And that is why the entire galaxy has probably quarantined Earth.  It may be millenium or two before Rodenberry’s (or Rabbi Maimonides’) IDIC principle becomes a given on this planet.  Then we might be ready for some REAL ethnic and racial diversity.

  • Investinourftre

    False flag attack, i question how many were really in the building, he looked dumbfounded that anyone was killed, how did the police and media know his name before he was arrested or the report was released?  This is just getting idiotic anymore.

  • Anonymous

    False flag attack, i question how many were really in the building, he looked dumbfounded that anyone was killed, how did the police and media know his name before he was arrested or the report was released?  This is just getting idiotic anymore.

  • Ironaddict06

    NO.  He plagiarized most of it from ted kaczynski.

  • Ironaddict06

    Many questions still need to be answered.
    For one man to do all this damage-is a tall task.  Where did he get the explosives or ferilizer?  Where did he get the guns, and what guns were used?  Norway has strict handgun laws.  Where is his car?
    The bombs went off at a government facilty-correct?  Are there cameras at the place where the bombs went off?
    Just wondering.

  • Ironaddict06

    Many questions still need to be answered.
    For one man to do all this damage-is a tall task.  Where did he get the explosives or ferilizer?  Where did he get the guns, and what guns were used?  Norway has strict handgun laws.  Where is his car?
    The bombs went off at a government facilty-correct?  Are there cameras at the place where the bombs went off?
    Just wondering.

  • http://twitter.com/jasonpaulhayes jasonpaulhayes

    You need a little more than to just say a News Anchor said “Authorities were aware of the gunman’s identity in advance”. They knew his name in advance of what, talking to reporters? Many Police may have (of course) arrived on the Island after he was already identified … They do have watch lists and people who call in tips, the guy was making youtube videos, they have video of the vehicle used in the bombing to ID the owner of the vehicle, he shot for an hour and a half etc, etc, etc.

    Here are some FACTS though, that are proven to not be a conspiracy. There are over 1000 Hate Groups in the US and according to the FBI terrorist information website the majority of them are Christian Groups, not to mention that Infowars.com is a Right-Wing Christian Propaganda Machine. Nothing is going to change the fact that major Christian churches have been exposed teaching kids to become Holy Warriors and use violence. Alex Jones (infowars) and Bill O’Reilly said there is no way a Christian could be a “State Sponsored Terrorist” but at the same time Michelle and Marcus Bachmann TERRORIZE Gays with their “State Sponsored” Pray Away the Gay clinics.

  • Tuna Ghost

    Alex Jones (infowars) and Bill O’Reilly said there is no way a Christian could be a “State Sponsored Terrorist” but at the same time Michelle and Marcus Bachmann TERRORIZE Gays with their “State Sponsored” Pray Away the Gay clinics.
    Not to mention shooting abortion doctors, which can easily be described as terrorism.  

  • Factchecker.

    This is utter bullshit. It was exposed that Breivek was a Free Mason with atheist & pro-gay views therefore he can not be in any stretch of the imagination a Christian fundamentalist nor even a conservative. There is not a shred of evidence supporting the notion that that so called “manifesto” was even composed by Breivik. The scientific method DEMANDS that it be PROVEN that he authored the “manifesto”. Furthermore large tracts of it were taken directly from the Unimober manifesto. Furthermore Breivik is a SUSPECT not CONFIRMED as being responsible for the attacks. John Mark Karr ALSO “admitted” his role in the death of Jonbenet Ramsey but was later found to have been lying & have had no role in the crime. Therefore we must all be ashamed of ourselves for rushing to JUDGMENT in this case which has yet to be prosecuted in a court of law. Witnesses have noted that there were MULTIPLE shooters thereby DEMONSTRATING that there were more than one suspect in the killings. The suspect ran in EXCLUSIVE & elite circles & was a member of the Tempelars which still meet each year. There is no way in hell that a Free Mason & Tempelar could ever be a so called Right Winger.

    • Tuna Ghost

      It was exposed that Breivek was a Free Mason with atheist & pro-gay views therefore he can not be in any stretch of the imagination a Christian fundamentalist nor even a conservative.

      Exposed where?  Links please, if you’re going to post information that literally no one else seems to have.

      There is not a shred of evidence supporting the notion that that so called “manifesto” was even composed by Breivik.

      Except that he admitted to writing it (even though large chunks of it were lifted from other sources).

      The scientific method DEMANDS that it be PROVEN that he authored the “manifesto”.

      I don’t think you really understand the scientific method, or what it is used for.  Still, it’s irrelevant, as the law doesn’t have to prove (or PROVE, for that matter) that he wrote it if he admits to writing it.  

      It’s incredible the way the Right is bending over backwards trying to prove that Breivik isn’t one of theirs.

      • Factchecker.

        Nice try again propagandist. No one else seems to have? Surely you must think that other folks do not know how to read reports. The points I have made were covered extensively but you probably knew that already & are just trying to divert.

        Quote: [ Traditional Christianity opposes abortion, promiscuous sexual activity, and the homosexual agenda, but Breivik finds himself on the other side of these cultural issues. In an online post, he wrote, “we have to ensure that we influence other culturally conservatives to take our anti-racist[,] pro-homosexual, pro-Israeli line of thought.” Elsewhere, he says we must “Support Israel’s fight against Jihad” (p. 1243).

        From: http://www.floydreports.com/norways-amazing-pro-gay-pro-choice-anti-racist-masonic-big-government-zionist-agnostic-breakdancing-conservative-christian-terrorist

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        Breivik was reported as a Free Mason here: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/gunmans-background-puzzles-police/story-e6frf7jo-1226100487358 & is widely acknowledged now. There is even a widely circulated picture of him in full Masonic regalia.

        As I noted before: John Mark Karr ALSO “admited” to killing Jonbenet Ramsey – only he did not commit the crime. Therefore “admitting” to doing something is not PROOF of having done it. That is why Americans are supposed to have the notion of “innocent until PROVEN guilty”. [ so long as the court is not corrupt. ] The law MUST prove it otherwise we would convict people on the basis of hearsay. A confession only has merit if it is AUTHENTIC but anyone can “confess” to anything thereby rendering the dubious nature of so called “confessions”. I remember how folks were ready to throw Karr into prison based on his “confession” to a crime he did not even commit.

        Breivik was an ANATHEMA to the so called Right as he took positions which are traditionally seen as on the so called Left. There is no way that a Free Mason / atheistic / pro-choice / big government / pro-gay individual can ever be considered to be on the so called Right by any stretch of the imagination. Even his own friends do not recognize the media caricature created of him. One friend even went so far as to say that he thought Breivik was brainwashed. 

        There is not Left & Right as those are further POLITICAL illusory divisions which are meant to distract the masses from noticing that they are being played off against one another. The flase Left / Right paradigm is about drawing people into controlled political camps which serve the same ultimate agendas. I do not support the Left nor the Right.

         

  • Factchecker.

    This is utter bullshit. It was exposed that Breivek was a Free Mason with atheist & pro-gay views therefore he can not be in any stretch of the imagination a Christian fundamentalist nor even a conservative. There is not a shred of evidence supporting the notion that that so called “manifesto” was even composed by Breivik. The scientific method DEMANDS that it be PROVEN that he authored the “manifesto”. Furthermore large tracts of it were taken directly from the Unimober manifesto. Furthermore Breivik is a SUSPECT not CONFIRMED as being responsible for the attacks. John Mark Karr ALSO “admitted” his role in the death of Jonbenet Ramsey but was later found to have been lying & have had no role in the crime. Therefore we must all be ashamed of ourselves for rushing to JUDGMENT in this case which has yet to be prosecuted in a court of law. Witnesses have noted that there were MULTIPLE shooters thereby DEMONSTRATING that there were more than one suspect in the killings. The suspect ran in EXCLUSIVE & elite circles & was a member of the Tempelars which still meet each year. There is no way in hell that a Free Mason & Tempelar could ever be a so called Right Winger.

  • Factchecker.

    O stop it. Killing anyone is wrong [ even killers ] but abortion is a sophisticated EUGENICS program aimed at culling “people we do not want too many of” [ quote from US Supreme Court "Justice" Ruth Bader Ginsburg. ]  The eugenic nature of abortion works as it increases the risk of developing cancer in those who undergo the procedure & disrupts the chemical balance in the body so that the body miscarriages in the future when the host is TRYING to have a child.  All these are confirmed reported facts which the elite often try to hide from the public so that they are not aware of the inherent dangers of abortion – which is just a euphemism for genocide. 51 % of all Black people are NEVER born due to the impact of abortion. 50 million people have been eliminated since the “legalization” [ the overturning of the 9th & 10th Amendments of the  Constitution. ] Eugenics of not just about promoting a White elite because the nature of eugenics turns against those who promote it as it is a genocidal program. Abortion is part of the John Malthus program of population reduction. 

  • Factchecker.

    The biggest hate group in the world is the STATE as governments have killed more people than any other human organization. Therefore the FBI calling someone else a “hate” group is just a little too rich & is the pot calling the kettle black. I seem to recall that it was the STATE which killed all those Iraq civilians of recent which was noted in Lancet. There is no group more dangerous & hateful than the State. The Founding Fathers knew about all this & is why they tried to create a MINIMALIST government. The infowars.com site is not a Right Wing Christian site at all because all they do is post news articles EXPOSING government corruption. They are similar to truthout.org & drudgereport.com. The most Right Wing instrument in all of human history has always been the State as it is the administrating mechanism of the Eugenicists who promote many programs aimed at genocide & population reduction.

  • Tuna Ghost

    he eugenic nature of abortion works as it increases the risk of developing cancer in those who undergo the procedure & disrupts the chemical balance in the body so that the body miscarriages in the future when the host is TRYING to have a child.  All these are confirmed reported facts which the elite often try to hide from the public so that they are not aware of the inherent dangers of abortion – which is just a euphemism for genocide.

    That’s funny, I’m pretty sure those “confirmed reports” have all been discredited.  But I’m sure that’s just all part of the conspiracy, of course.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Killing anyone is wrong [ even killers ]

    I love how you reduce a complicated debate on applied morality to a single statement.  

    …but abortion is a sophisticated EUGENICS program aimed at culling “people we do not want too many of” [ quote from US Supreme Court “Justice” Ruth Bader Ginsburg. 

    Really?  Women’s body rights have nothing to do with it?  Cases of incest or rape have nothing to do with it?  Valuing a fetus, which is not a “person” in any sense of the word, more than a living person means nothing to you, eh?  Why is it that practically everyone I meet who spouts this “abortion is eugencis” bullshit is a.) not a woman, and b.) white?

  • Tuna Ghost

    It was exposed that Breivek was a Free Mason with atheist & pro-gay views therefore he can not be in any stretch of the imagination a Christian fundamentalist nor even a conservative.

    Exposed where?  Links please, if you’re going to post information that literally no one else seems to have.

    There is not a shred of evidence supporting the notion that that so called “manifesto” was even composed by Breivik.

    Except that he admitted to writing it (even though large chunks of it were lifted from other sources).

    The scientific method DEMANDS that it be PROVEN that he authored the “manifesto”.

    I don’t think you really understand the scientific method, or what it is used for.  Still, it’s irrelevant, as the law doesn’t have to prove (or PROVE, for that matter) that he wrote it if he admits to writing it.  

    It’s incredible the way the Right is bending over backwards trying to prove that Breivik isn’t one of theirs.

  • Factchecker.

    That was simply the flowery rhetoric that the POLITICIANS [ who take's a politician at their word? ] used to SELL THE PUBLIC on abortion. Abortion had to be dressed up as a “right” [ while neglecting to mention the right of the persons who are fatally affected by the procedure including often the hosts themselves ] because few would have got on board the abortion bandwagon if its true eugenicist face was more widely admitted. The right to life far outstrips the “rights” of the eugenicists who sold the public on consenting to their own genocide & harm.

    Cases of rape & incest are a red herrings. The notion that a “fetus” is not a person is legalistic [ unlawful ] jargon & a canard because their is no right to transgress up another human no matter what age they are. The “body rights” is another canard because abortion is HARMFUL to the bodies of those who have had the procedure & people must make an INFORMED decision.

    Abortion is eugenics as the elite from Thomas Multhus to Francis Galton have all mentioned that abortion is part of the eugenics program. How can it be “bullshit” when they say it themselves & write about it? Then you promote another canard regarding gender & race because a lot of females of many races have spoken out about abortion being a eugenics program. Jesse Jackson himself used to speak out about this before he ran for President.
     

  • Factchecker.

    Nice try again propagandist. No one else seems to have? Surely you must think that other folks do not know how to read reports. The points I have made were covered extensively but you probably knew that already & are just trying to divert.

    Quote: [ Traditional Christianity opposes abortion, promiscuous sexual activity, and the homosexual agenda, but Breivik finds himself on the other side of these cultural issues. In an online post, he wrote, “we have to ensure that we influence other culturally conservatives to take our anti-racist[,] pro-homosexual, pro-Israeli line of thought.” Elsewhere, he says we must “Support Israel’s fight against Jihad” (p. 1243).

    From: http://www.floydreports.com/norways-amazing-pro-gay-pro-choice-anti-racist-masonic-big-government-zionist-agnostic-breakdancing-conservative-christian-terrorist

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    Breivik was reported as a Free Mason here: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/gunmans-background-puzzles-police/story-e6frf7jo-1226100487358 & is widely acknowledged now. There is even a widely circulated picture of him in full Masonic regalia.

    As I noted before: John Mark Karr ALSO “admited” to killing Jonbenet Ramsey – only he did not commit the crime. Therefore “admitting” to doing something is not PROOF of having done it. That is why Americans are supposed to have the notion of “innocent until PROVEN guilty”. [ so long as the court is not corrupt. ] The law MUST prove it otherwise we would convict people on the basis of hearsay. A confession only has merit if it is AUTHENTIC but anyone can “confess” to anything thereby rendering the dubious nature of so called “confessions”. I remember how folks were ready to throw Karr into prison based on his “confession” to a crime he did not even commit.

    Breivik was an ANATHEMA to the so called Right as he took positions which are traditionally seen as on the so called Left. There is no way that a Free Mason / atheistic / pro-choice / big government / pro-gay individual can ever be considered to be on the so called Right by any stretch of the imagination. Even his own friends do not recognize the media caricature created of him. One friend even went so far as to say that he thought Breivik was brainwashed. 

    There is not Left & Right as those are further POLITICAL illusory divisions which are meant to distract the masses from noticing that they are being played off against one another. The flase Left / Right paradigm is about drawing people into controlled political camps which serve the same ultimate agendas. I do not support the Left nor the Right.

     

  • Factchecker.

    Nice try propagandist but those confirmed reports are all within the public domain. 

    ABORTION CAUSES BREAST CANCER.

    By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
    December 26, 2003
    NewsWithViews.com

    Most women in the United States are unaware that having an abortion increases the risk of developing breast cancer. The fact that abortion causes breast cancer has been nearly completely suppressed by the media because it is a politically incorrect issue. More than 30 studies have confirmed a relationship between having an abortion and the subsequent development of breast cancer. Since 1960 there has been a surge in the number of women developing breast cancer in the USA. Currently every woman in this nation has between a 10 and 12% chance of developing breast cancer.

    Dr. Joel Brind, Professor of Biology and Endocrinology at Baruch College of the City College of New York has been crusading to get the information that abortion is a major factor in the causation of breast cancer to the public. Not one magazine or newspaper was willing to print his findings. His research was finally reported in Lancet, a fine English medical journal.

    When you enter a Planned Parenthood Clinic to have an abortion do they tell you that this procedure increases your chance of breast cancer by 50%? If a woman has an abortion at anytime, her chance of developing breast cancer goes up by at least 50%.

    From: http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james3.htm

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    Abortion increases cancer risk.

    DIANE S. DEW © 1993

    Reprinted from The Standard 4/6/93

    Women who have had abortions have a greater risk of developing breast cancer, The Washington Times reported Friday, and because of the increase in breast cancer risk, women are 200 times more likely to die from aborting their first pregnancy than from carrying the fetus to term.

    Delaying childbirth until later in life also increases one’s risk, studies show.

    Dr. Joel Brind, an endocrinologist and biologist now doing cancer research, was in Washington to bring his findings on breast cancer to the attention of the Congress. He met with both Senate and House staff members during his two-day visit, which was sponsored by the Ad Hoc Committee in Defense of Life, a Washington-based pro-life group.

    He has cited 19 other sources [see sidebar], including a 1986 Lancet article which states that “induced abortion before first-term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer.”

    “A woman who has a baby as a teenager has about a 7% lifetime risk of getting breast cancer, ” he said, “but a woman who aborts her first pregnancy has about double that risk — 15% or more.”

    From: http://www.dianedew.com/aborcanc.htm

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    Russo J, Russo I (1980). “Susceptibility of the mammary gland to carcinogenesis. II. Pregnancy interruption as a risk factor in tumor incidence”. Am J Pathol 100 (2): 505–506. PMC 1903536. PMID 6773421. “In contrast, abortion is associated with increased risk of carcinomas of the breast. The explanation for these epidemiologic findings is not known, but the parallelism between the DMBA-induced rat mammary carcinoma model and the human situation is striking. [...] Abortion would interrupt this process, leaving in the gland undifferentiated structures like those observed in the rat mammary gland, which could render the gland again susceptible to carcinogenesis.”.

    From: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1903536/?tool=pmcentrez

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    Study: Abortion Fueling Cancer Epidemic.

    Tuesday, December 4, 2007 6:48 PM

    By: Sylvia Hubbard     Article Font Size 

    Having an abortion raises a woman’s risk of breast cancer by at least 30 percent, and is fueling an “epidemic” of the often fatal disease, according to British researchers.

    According to a new study published in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, young women who had an abortion before having a child are at the greatest risk for developing breast cancer.

    The study’s lead author Patrick Carroll calls abortion the single “best predictor” of breast cancer trends.

    “An abortion in a young woman who has never had a child has a carcinogenic effect because it leaves breast cells in a state of interrupted hormonal development in which they are more susceptible,” says Carroll, director of research at PAPRI (Pension and Population Research Institute) in London.

    From: http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/abortion_breast_cancer/2007/12/04/54512.html 

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    In 1986, government scientists wrote a letter to the British journal Lancet and acknowledged that abortion is a cause of breast cancer.  They wrote, “Induced abortion before first term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer.”  (Lancet, 2/22/86, p. 436)

    From: http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com

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    I think you Eugenics apologists have to remember that folks can research this on their OWN to determine the facts & to discover the documented abortion cancer link.

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