Dirty Girls Ministries’ Crusade Against Female Masturbation

Dirty GirlsBlaire Briody, from Bust, reports on this fight against evil for Utne Reader:

In a small, plainly decorated room in Lenexa, Kansas, 26-year-old Crystal Renaud logs on to a free video-chat site. She sits at her desk and peers over her black-rimmed glasses, which reflect the dull blue glare of the computer monitor. Meanwhile, in homes scattered around the United States, five other women are staring into their webcams as well. As their faces pop up around Renaud on all their screens, they begin the 6th week of a 12-week pornography addiction recovery group for women called No Stones.

“Does anyone want to share a story where they felt they had some sort of personality disorder? Or something related?” Renaud asks, before her voice temporarily cuts out and the screen freezes. The group is having technical issues tonight. “For me, I found myself really clinging to certain personality types, those opposite of my dad,” she says when she’s back on. The assignment for this week, she tells the women, is to write down their sexual histories. “I know it’s overwhelming, but don’t be defeated by this,” she says. “There’s hope. This is truth. Even though it’s hard and painful, the truth is what sets you free.”

The No Stones recovery group is part of an organization called Dirty Girls Ministries that Renaud launched in 2009 after suffering from her own self-described pornography addiction. She says she wanted to help other women recover from their X-rated fixations by connecting with them online and holding meetings at her local church. But her use of the terms porn and addiction may be misleading. The growing group of 100-plus members who participate in the forums say that they masturbate or view porn—which they define as including erotica and romance novels—twice a week or less. For most of us, that would hardly be considered excessive. But to Renaud, it indicates an epidemic of addiction, one that can be treated by helping women stay “clean” of masturbation.

In addition to the online ministry, she speaks regularly at various evangelical churches in Kansas and has written a book called Dirty Girls Come Clean. “Whether you believe it or not, women are addicted to porn,” Renaud preached in a recent sermon. “You’d be surprised at how many women—women in your own lives—are hiding this deep, dark, and dirty secret.”

While many of the women she counsels report turning to pornography as a form of escape—from traumas like sexual abuse, infidelity, and even prostitution—Renaud compares their masturbation to alcoholism, saying that “like drugs and alcohol, so many things that feel good in a short amount of time can end up hurting you.”

Renaud’s advocacy is labeled antipornography, but it aims to treat all masturbation, whether it involves porn or not…

[continues at Utne Reader]

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  • http://twitter.com/#!/tomkelley Tom

    Women who think this is bs and want to support masturbation online…chatforfree.org

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

      there are a number of video chat sites where you can have your choice of men or women with which to share mutual net masterbation.

      I did , eventually got tired of it though.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/tomkelley Tom

    Women who think this is bs and want to support masturbation online…chatforfree.org

  • DeepCough

    Why don’t they just call themselves the “Women Anti-Sex League” since they so abhor this thing called the “female orgasm.”

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

      rminds me of the xtian womens temperance league.  All they did with banning booze was to put the mafia in the business.

      As long as its not excessive, vice has an element of good ness in it.

  • DeepCough

    Why don’t they just call themselves the “Women Anti-Sex League” since they so abhor this thing called the “female orgasm.”

  • DeepCough

    Why don’t they just call themselves the “Women Anti-Sex League” since they so abhor this thing called the “female orgasm.”

  • 5by5

    Oy. 

    Yeah ladies. Don’t dare have too much fun with the wonderful carnival ride that is your bodies.

  • 5by5

    Oy. 

    Yeah ladies. Don’t dare have too much fun with the wonderful carnival ride that is your bodies.

  • 5by5

    Oy. 

    Yeah ladies. Don’t dare have too much fun with the wonderful carnival ride that is your bodies.

  • BrianApocalypse

    Is it wrong that I find the idea of women addicted to porn kinda hot?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

      as long as it doesnt become OCD like, its fine.  Just as my gay friends and I (even though I am str8)  will enjoy a little adult gay porn eg Bel Ami from time to time after a few drinks.

  • Anonymous

    Is it wrong that I find the idea of women addicted to porn kinda hot?

  • quartz99

    …why… why would you even DO that?

    It never fails to floor me when it’s a woman leading one of the rings in the many-ringed circus that is anti-feminism.

    Part of me thinks that I need to masturbate twice as often just to make up for all the joy this woman is taking out of the world.

    • Idiocracy

      It failed to floor me. Although I don’t subscribe to the extreme religious view stuff like this is just another distraction to me. It’s like “ohhh look at the freaks, why are they so repressed? I’m so glad we’re cool and not like them.” PLEASE. It’s just drama in another form. I mean REALLY, if you know so much better it takes what a split second to recognize this kind of extremism for what it is? And people have to go and comment on it by really stating the obvious??

      • tooCents

        But you’re missing something obvious and that’s that commenting on the internet is a form of masturbation. And some posters are joking and lots of the posts are funny.

      • Tuna Ghost

        How exactly is commenting on his/her comments NOT adding to the problem as you see it?  The sarcasm, the capital letters–that’s not drama to you?  Really?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

      she is molesting people with her words – fools who believe her

  • Anonymous

    …why… why would you even DO that?

    It never fails to floor me when it’s a woman leading one of the rings in the many-ringed circus that is anti-feminism.

    Part of me thinks that I need to masturbate twice as often just to make up for all the joy this woman is taking out of the world.

  • http://twitter.com/D351 D351

    In this post: Anti-feminist conservative woman makes vain attempt at setting her own gender back by about 50yrs.

  • http://twitter.com/D351 D351

    In this post: Anti-feminist conservative woman makes vain attempt at setting her own gender back by about 50yrs.

  • robertpinkerton

    Because my understanding (informed by an OB/GYN) is that girls who masturbate in adolescence become orgasmic in coitus both faster and more easily than do girls who do not masturbate, I as a man consider female masturbation to be an unconditional good. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

      yes – af riend of mine could never bring his wife to enjoying sex / having an orgasm.  Eventually they all split up, she’/s on her third marriage now.

      She is also an extremist religious type.

  • Anonymous

    Because my understanding (informed by an OB/GYN) is that girls who masturbate in adolescence become orgasmic in coitus both faster and more easily than do girls who do not masturbate, I as a man consider female masturbation to be an unconditional good. 

  • Computer

    This does not compute.

  • Computer

    This does not compute.

  • OdinMcHaggis

    OK I’m guessing she has no man?

    • http://twitter.com/wi_ngo wingo shackleford

      I hope not.  Could you imagine being married to this woman? I’d bet if she does miraculously have a significant other that he spends an awful lot of time ‘working late at the office’.

  • Anonymous

    OK I’m guessing she has no man?

  • Penguins4life

    I like how they assume again that church and fix this problem or help it. Get real here not everyone is christian and those who claim to be sometimes dont even believe in the whole thing. Its like a build to order thing now.

    Aside from that society really likes to pick on women. All they want is some good loving.

  • Penguins4life

    I like how they assume again that church and fix this problem or help it. Get real here not everyone is christian and those who claim to be sometimes dont even believe in the whole thing. Its like a build to order thing now.

    Aside from that society really likes to pick on women. All they want is some good loving.

  • Okarin

    because the only thing not in the d.s.m is feeling like it’s 1984, which also says the orgasm is the last thing that needs to be conquered

  • Okarin

    because the only thing not in the d.s.m is feeling like it’s 1984, which also says the orgasm is the last thing that needs to be conquered

  • Curumim

    “Dirty Girls COME Clean” hould be a great rock band’s name!!!!

  • Curumim

    “Dirty Girls COME Clean” hould be a great rock band’s name!!!!

  • Curumim

    “Dirty Girls COME Clean” hould be a great rock band’s name!!!!

  • Curumim

    “Dirty Girls COME Clean” hould be a great rock band’s name!!!!

  • nevertrusta3sum

    fuck this shit. Fap or shlick all you want. 

  • nevertrusta3sum

    fuck this shit. Fap or shlick all you want. 

  • Hadrian999

    dirty girls come….to my apartment

  • Hadrian999

    dirty girls come….to my apartment

  • Hadrian999

    dirty girls come….to my apartment

  • http://profiles.google.com/bea2thej Bea Johnson

    Ugh, the repression. Wow. My father was a drunk, but the one thing he always preached when he was a drunk was moderation, not to let him be an example… but not shut down and be a prude like my Mom. Best lesson ever, I think he was an anarchist at heart and detested himself for not indulging occasionally. You’re attached to what you attack, repression equals obsession. It constantly amazes me how some think because they have a self control problem, none of us should do anything. What a boring world that would be.

    And the sad thing is, women’s lib taught them this. Like a drunk on a bender women tried to destroy their natural erotic sensuality first thing out of the gate. Equality wasn’t supposed to be us masculinizing ourselves, but allowing our true natures to shine and be appreciated. This Madonna/Whore mentality makes me crazy, we’re all a little of both, no need to get your panties in a bunch and judge yourselves. And can I say chicks are their own worst enemies? Just sayin’. I am one and I avoid most like the plague, bunch of whiny little girls that can’t own their sexuality.

  • http://profiles.google.com/bea2thej Bea Johnson

    Ugh, the repression. Wow. My father was a drunk, but the one thing he always preached when he was a drunk was moderation, not to let him be an example… but not shut down and be a prude like my Mom. Best lesson ever, I think he was an anarchist at heart and detested himself for not indulging occasionally. You’re attached to what you attack, repression equals obsession. It constantly amazes me how some think because they have a self control problem, none of us should do anything. What a boring world that would be.

    And the sad thing is, women’s lib taught them this. Like a drunk on a bender women tried to destroy their natural erotic sensuality first thing out of the gate. Equality wasn’t supposed to be us masculinizing ourselves, but allowing our true natures to shine and be appreciated. This Madonna/Whore mentality makes me crazy, we’re all a little of both, no need to get your panties in a bunch and judge yourselves. And can I say chicks are their own worst enemies? Just sayin’. I am one and I avoid most like the plague, bunch of whiny little girls that can’t own their sexuality.

    • Jake

      well said….

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMPBMWIZQAHDI24VVZLK4UUBLE Sally Q

      You might be surprised how deep the indoctrination goes. I was raised Eastern Orthodox Christian, but later my mom converted to some creepy born-again Christian thing. Although I haven’t been Christian in over a decade, and it was precisely my sexuality which made me question the whole thing to begin with, there is still and may always be a little voice in my head which yells “whore” simply for enjoying myself.

      I envy women who weren’t raised in an Abrahamic religion. It seems a little easier for them, since being a whore is simply dishonoring your family, rather than eternal damnation.

  • http://twitter.com/wi_ngo wingo shackleford

    I hope not.  Could you imagine being married to this woman? I’d bet if she does miraculously have a significant other that he spends an awful lot of time ‘working late at the office’.

  • SF2K01

    Only YOU can help to prevent female masturbation.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

      I did it to a chick when I was a LT in the army.  She did ti to me. It was fun.

      One of hte jerks in the company took out the same generals other and ugly daughter.  He got her pregnant.  it was 1964 and Vietnam was heating up.   he very quickly disappeared.   generalss can always find a way to mvoe people around .

      I had my fun with ms 3 fingers vulva.

      • Tuna Ghost

        Dude are you seriously bragging on the internet about having sex with some broad almost 50 years ago?  Stay classy, Stan.  

  • Anonymous

    Only YOU can help to prevent female masturbation.

  • Anonymous

    Only YOU can help to prevent female masturbation.

  • Idiocracy

    It failed to floor me. Although I don’t subscribe to the extreme religious view stuff like this is just another distraction to me. It’s like “ohhh look at the freaks, why are they so repressed? I’m so glad we’re cool and not like them.” PLEASE. It’s just drama in another form. I mean REALLY, if you know so much better it takes what a split second to recognize this kind of extremism for what it is? And people have to go and comment on it by really stating the obvious??

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Mojoboy/100001516420420 Stephen Mojoboy

    Too many people on this planet ! We have to do something !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Mojoboy/100001516420420 Stephen Mojoboy

    Too many people on this planet ! We have to do something !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Mojoboy/100001516420420 Stephen Mojoboy

    Too many people on this planet ! We have to do something !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Mojoboy/100001516420420 Stephen Mojoboy

    Too many people on this planet ! We have to do something !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Mojoboy/100001516420420 Stephen Mojoboy

    Too many people on this planet ! We have to do something !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Mojoboy/100001516420420 Stephen Mojoboy

    Too many people on this planet ! We have to do something !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    the catholic church forbid priests to marry.  It also claimed that masturbation was not normal and a crime.  All probably justified by the biblical passage about saving your seed (for the spring planting)

    Since we all are sexual creatures, denying sex and even masturbation warps the mind. Ultimately the desire breaks through rattionality and the handiest victims were the chidlren who the priests molested.

    Its called sexual immaturity.  Most high school kids  can tell you of someone who claimed he never wasted his seed.

    We ahd one of those types at circuit city where I used to work – he went around with his nose in the air as if he was king tut, claimed he never wasted his seed.

    One of the other kids said of him – Stan – you have a molester in the making

    I looked ben up a couple years later on the local weblsit of child molesters.  He was there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    the catholic church forbid priests to marry.  It also claimed that masturbation was not normal and a crime.  All probably justified by the biblical passage about saving your seed (for the spring planting)

    Since we all are sexual creatures, denying sex and even masturbation warps the mind. Ultimately the desire breaks through rattionality and the handiest victims were the chidlren who the priests molested.

    Its called sexual immaturity.  Most high school kids  can tell you of someone who claimed he never wasted his seed.

    We ahd one of those types at circuit city where I used to work – he went around with his nose in the air as if he was king tut, claimed he never wasted his seed.

    One of the other kids said of him – Stan – you have a molester in the making

    I looked ben up a couple years later on the local weblsit of child molesters.  He was there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    she is molesting people with her words – fools who believe her

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    yes – af riend of mine could never bring his wife to enjoying sex / having an orgasm.  Eventually they all split up, she’/s on her third marriage now.

    She is also an extremist religious type.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    as long as it doesnt become OCD like, its fine.  Just as my gay friends and I (even though I am str8)  will enjoy a little adult gay porn eg Bel Ami from time to time after a few drinks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    rminds me of the xtian womens temperance league.  All they did with banning booze was to put the mafia in the business.

    As long as its not excessive, vice has an element of good ness in it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    there are a number of video chat sites where you can have your choice of men or women with which to share mutual net masterbation.

    I did , eventually got tired of it though.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2VVHGFY6INZQ5SX4HLNUF4NSIE Stanley J

    I did it to a chick when I was a LT in the army.  She did ti to me. It was fun.

    One of hte jerks in the company took out the same generals other and ugly daughter.  He got her pregnant.  it was 1964 and Vietnam was heating up.   he very quickly disappeared.   generalss can always find a way to mvoe people around .

    I had my fun with ms 3 fingers vulva.

  • Dmitry

    The girls aren’t dirty at all, they’re perfectly fine.  It’s part of the current society which deems them unacceptable and makes them believe they should cringe at their own body, you know that filthy, dirty flesh you were born with.
    Just chalk this up to long list of guilt trips you’re subjected to from the time you’re able to speak.

  • Dmitry

    The girls aren’t dirty at all, they’re perfectly fine.  It’s part of the current society which deems them unacceptable and makes them believe they should cringe at their own body, you know that filthy, dirty flesh you were born with.
    Just chalk this up to long list of guilt trips you’re subjected to from the time you’re able to speak.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Dayhoff/807089011 Brian Dayhoff

    Let’s all go and  make support groups to help people overcome the urge to perform various other bodily functions also, such as eating, drinking, sleeping and taking a shit. With your help we can have a nation of starving dehydraded insomniacs with impacted colons for god.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Dayhoff/807089011 Brian Dayhoff

    Let’s all go and  make support groups to help people overcome the urge to perform various other basic bodily functions also, such as eating, drinking, sleeping and taking a shit. With your help we can have a nation of starving dehydrated insomniacs with impacted colons for god.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Dayhoff/807089011 Brian Dayhoff

    Let’s all go and  make support groups to help people overcome the urge to perform various other basic bodily functions also, such as eating, drinking, sleeping and taking a shit. With your help we can have a nation of starving dehydrated insomniacs with impacted colons for god.

  • dreamstarworld

    GREAT ARTICLE!!!

    Any psychopathology that leads to ADDICTION* in any form must be treated and “YES” that include FOOD JUNKIES* (who are a strain on our HEALTH SYSTEM)…

    Lax neoliberalism and this idea that it’s a person business even when ADDICTIONS* cause them to be dysfunctional and mal-adjusted in society as something to be joked at or celebrated is frankly reprehensible…

    PORNOGRAPHY* has become a part of the immoral landscape in our world and for all those who celebrate the demonization of the woman’s sexuality and has her as an object of specious gratification – the question is – how would you like to see your mother in a PORN FLICK* being sodomized by some real GORILLA* types?

    • Tuna Ghost

      Judging by that ‘stache in your photo, I bet you’d be the Gorilla.  

  • Anonymous

    GREAT ARTICLE!!!

    Any psychopathology that leads to ADDICTION* in any form must be treated and “YES” that include FOOD JUNKIES* (who are a strain on our HEALTH SYSTEM)…

    Lax neoliberalism and this idea that it’s a person business even when ADDICTIONS* cause them to be dysfunctional and mal-adjusted in society as something to be joked at or celebrated is frankly reprehensible…

    PORNOGRAPHY* has become a part of the immoral landscape in our world and for all those who celebrate the demonization of the woman’s sexuality and has her as an object of specious gratification – the question is – how would you like to see your mother in a PORN FLICK* being sodomized by some real GORILLA* types?

  • Jake

    well said….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NMPBMWIZQAHDI24VVZLK4UUBLE Sally Q

    You might be surprised how deep the indoctrination goes. I was raised Eastern Orthodox Christian, but later my mom converted to some creepy born-again Christian thing. Although I haven’t been Christian in over a decade, and it was precisely my sexuality which made me question the whole thing to begin with, there is still and may always be a little voice in my head which yells “whore” simply for enjoying myself.

    I envy women who weren’t raised in an Abrahamic religion. It seems a little easier for them, since being a whore is simply dishonoring your family, rather than eternal damnation.

  • Anonymous

    But you’re missing something obvious and that’s that commenting on the internet is a form of masturbation. And some posters are joking and lots of the posts are funny.

  • Tuna Ghost

    How exactly is commenting on his/her comments NOT adding to the problem as you see it?  The sarcasm, the capital letters–that’s not drama to you?  Really?

  • Tuna Ghost

    “You’d be surprised at how many women—women in your own lives—are hiding this deep, dark, and dirty secret.

    Oh come on, how is that not supposed to be titillating?  

  • Tuna Ghost

    “You’d be surprised at how many women—women in your own lives—are hiding this deep, dark, and dirty secret.

    Oh come on, how is that not supposed to be titillating?  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Judging by that ‘stache in your photo, I bet you’d be the Gorilla.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Dude are you seriously bragging on the internet about having sex with some broad almost 50 years ago?  Stay classy, Stan.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Dude are you seriously bragging on the internet about having sex with some broad almost 50 years ago?  Stay classy, Stan.  

  • Anonymous

    I read about Crystal Renaud in the Utne Reader. It figures that a fat chick who hates her body would start a “ministry” which spreads superstitious fear about the functioning of girl parts. 

  • advancedatheist

    I read about Crystal Renaud in the Utne Reader. It figures that a fat chick who hates her body would start a “ministry” which spreads superstitious fear about the functioning of girl parts. 

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