Stand Your Ground: Taking Photos In Public

The London Street Photography Festival had six photographers attempt to take pictures in various locations on public streets in Britain’s capital. Despite being perfectly within their rights, all six were stopped by private security forces who made vague allusions to “terrorism” and “security” and tried to intimidate them. The Festival filmed the encounters and what happened when the photographers politely refused to back down:

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  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Burn London Burn….this is just a tiny part of why. Take a lesson…your people aren’t spoiled because they used to have it too good and can’t stoically cope with adversity…they actually know a police state when they see one…after all, they got the crap bombed out of them by fascists only a few generations ago. If they seem weary of quietly tolerating being slowly dehumanized and bullied into submission…its because they are a people with a vague connection to their own dignity as humans still intact. Which is better than I can say for most Americans these days.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Burn London Burn….this is just a tiny part of why. Take a lesson…your people aren’t spoiled because they used to have it too good and can’t stoically cope with adversity…they actually know a police state when they see one…after all, they got the crap bombed out of them by fascists only a few generations ago. If they seem weary of quietly tolerating being slowly dehumanized and bullied into submission…its because they are a people with a vague connection to their own dignity as humans still intact. Which is better than I can say for most Americans these days.

    • http://www.nickmeador.org/ ndmeador

      That’s a pretty extreme reaction. I thought the police were going to show up and arrest the photographers. The security guards were more polite than American ones would be. These guys were acting suspicious. I almost feel like at some point they should have told the security guards they were doing it to see what would happen — in other words, to demonstrate a point. Anyway, I’m glad they made the video. It’s an important subject.

      • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

        Admittedly…my response wasn’t about the art project…but about the collective atmosphere of hostility and suspicion that has made London among the most, if not the MOST, scrutinized and observed populace in the world. My hope is that the people of London will slowly grasp that people are desperate because they are clamped in a vice…not because they are inherently wicked…and that the remedy to prevent riots is to return to people their basic dignity as humans and citizens.

        As for suspicion…theres nothing suspicious about a camera being brandished in public by people who look, not surprisingly…like a batch of art house photography fans. What is suspicious and disagreeable is the concept of corporate goons imagining that they can patrol the streets and attempt to intimidate people into not carrying cameras or taking pictures. The situation has become very skewed when the automatic stance is for people to assume that carrying a camera about and snapping pictures in a very public way…is considered suspect.

        Once we go down the path of ‘everything is suspicious’….it only leads to wilder and wilder clampdowns on even the most innocuous and innocent actions. It’s not a place anyone sane would want to go.

  • ditm

    UK. The most filmed people in the world. Not allowed to film back.

  • ditm

    UK. The most filmed people in the world. Not allowed to film back.

  • Dweeb

    LOL @VoxMagi & ditm had you watched the video to the end you would have seen that the Police upheld the photographers right to film/photograph. It was only the ill informed security staff who thought otherwise.

  • Dweeb

    LOL @VoxMagi & ditm had you watched the video to the end you would have seen that the Police upheld the photographers right to film/photograph. It was only the ill informed security staff who thought otherwise.

    • Jin The Ninja

      LOL @ dweeb  , its not about being “allowed” -its about corporations using intimidation tactics to try to force people to relinquish their own rights. No one was saying  the people were  made to stop, but if the corps had it their way they would have. I watched the vid in entirety and i saw only 1 commendable policeman. The one with glasses was spineless.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      I’m not sure I made any reference to the video…which is about corporate security gone wrong…

      …but my comment is regarding the rioting in London and the culture of repression that is tolerated both in government and private enterprise alike. These things take their toll…especially in a city that is more heavily monitored and policed than other comparable cities of size. The lesson is that people buckling under the weight of authority figures mauling them constantly…will eventually snap.

  • Anonymous

    This is what I like to see: no overt antagonism on the photographers part, just asserting the right to photograph in a public space.  It’s a shame that often times these types of videos usually involve some kind of police baiting and crazed shouting.  My hats off to The London Street Photography Festival.

  • RoboKy

    This is what I like to see: no overt antagonism on the photographers part, just asserting the right to photograph in a public space.  It’s a shame that often times these types of videos usually involve some kind of police baiting and crazed shouting.  My hats off to The London Street Photography Festival.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    This is odd, since there are are up to 4.2m CCTV cameras in Britain – about one for every 14 people.

  • BuzzCoastin

    This is odd, since there are are up to 4.2m CCTV cameras in Britain – about one for every 14 people.

  • Anonymous

    LOL @d2361eab9beb99de25aabad2116c1f19:disqus  , its not about being “allowed” -its about corporations using intimidation tactics to try to force people to relinquish their own rights. No one was saying  the people were  made to stop, but if the corps had it there way they would have. I watched the vid in entirety and i saw only 1 commendable policeman. The one with glasses was spineless.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    I’m not sure I made any reference to the video…which is about corporate security gone wrong…

    …but my comment is regarding the rioting in London and the culture of repression that is tolerated both in government and private enterprise alike. These things take their toll…especially in a city that is more heavily monitored and policed than other comparable cities of size. The lesson is that people buckling under the weight of authority figures mauling them constantly…will eventually snap.

  • http://www.nickmeador.org/ ndmeador

    That’s a pretty extreme reaction. I thought the police were going to show up and arrest the photographers. The security guards were more polite than American ones would be. These guys were acting suspicious. I almost feel like at some point they should have told the security guards they were doing it to see what would happen — in other words, to demonstrate a point. Anyway, I’m glad they made the video. It’s an important subject.

  • http://www.nickmeador.org/ ndmeador

    That’s a pretty extreme reaction. I thought the police were going to show up and arrest the photographers. The security guards were more polite than American ones would be. These guys were acting suspicious. I almost feel like at some point they should have told the security guards they were doing it to see what would happen — in other words, to demonstrate a point. Anyway, I’m glad they made the video. It’s an important subject.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Admittedly…my response wasn’t about the art project…but about the collective atmosphere of hostility and suspicion that has made London among the most, if not the MOST, scrutinized and observed populace in the world. My hope is that the people of London will slowly grasp that people are desperate because they are clamped in a vice…not because they are inherently wicked…and that the remedy to prevent riots is to return to people their basic dignity as humans and citizens.

    As for suspicion…theres nothing suspicious about a camera being brandished in public by people who look, not surprisingly…like a batch of art house photography fans. What is suspicious and disagreeable is the concept of corporate goons imagining that they can patrol the streets and attempt to intimidate people into not carrying cameras or taking pictures. The situation has become very skewed when the automatic stance is for people to assume that carrying a camera about and snapping pictures in a very public way…is considered suspect.

    Once we go down the path of ‘everything is suspicious’….it only leads to wilder and wilder clampdowns on even the most innocuous and innocent actions. It’s not a place anyone sane would want to go.