African American Unemployment At 27 Year High

chart-black-unemploymentAnnalyn Censky reports on this depressing statistic for CNN Money:

The August jobs report was dismal for plenty of reasons, but perhaps most striking was the picture it painted of racial inequality in the job market.

Black unemployment surged to 16.7% in August, its highest level since 1984, while the unemployment rate for whites fell slightly to 8%, the Labor Department reported.

“This month’s numbers continue to bear out that longstanding pattern that minorities have a much more challenging time getting jobs,” said Bill Rodgers, chief economist with the Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University.

Black unemployment has been roughly double that of whites since the government started tracking the figures in 1972.

Economists blame a variety of factors. The black workforce is younger than the white workforce, lower numbers of blacks get a college degree and many live in areas of the country that were harder hit by the recession — all things that could lead to a higher unemployment rate.

But even excluding those factors, blacks still are hit with higher joblessness.

“Even when you compare black and white workers, same age range, same education, you still see pretty significant gaps in unemployment rates,” said Algernon Austin, director of the Race, Ethnicity, and the Economy program at the Economic Policy Institute. “So I do think the fact of racial discrimination in the labor market continues to play a role.”…

[continues at CNN Money]

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  • Curumim

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    • Statistics

      Actually dying of an infection is not uncommon.  Many people put off getting an abscess tooth fixed and hear the dentist tell them they could die from the infection.  Septicemia, infection in the blood, is the 10th leading cause of death in the United States.

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002055/

      The story seems that he did not follow the doctors instructions.  Wal-Mart sells most antibiotics for $4 while generic pain medication can cost $30.  He had a choice between pain medication to treat the symptom and antibiotics to treat the disease.  He chose the symptom and died as a result.  As a family member said in the article, ‘ “He should have gone to the dentist to take care of the toothache, and
      it wouldn’t have escalated to this. It’s a lesson learned by all,”
      Collins said.’

  • Wanooski

    Automation, outsourcing, free trade, profit motive. Also racism.

  • Anarchy Pony

    Automation, outsourcing, free trade, profit motive. Also racism.

  • Anonymous

    Free Society. End Capitalism. Seems only logical.

  • Jin The Ninja

    Free Society. End Capitalism. Seems only logical.

    • Anarchy Pony

      But not easy. Or simple.

    • Hadrian999

      it all comes back to our broken record conversation, what to replace it with. any power vacuum will be filled, if you get rid of the current order you must be able to replace it with something that won’t be crushed or co opted by the elite

      • Anarchy Pony

        Alright, down the road to extinction we march.

        • Hadrian999

          im not saying don’t try I’m just saying you can’t just shoot from the hip and trust to luck to make the next system better than the current one

          • Jin The Ninja

            I’m not a cowboy, i don’t advocate quick draw tactics or stratagem. Anything that replaces our current system, must be deliberate, focused and most importantly codified.

          • Anarchy Pony

            Well, with the time frames we have to work with on biosphere ecological collapse, there may be very little time for any large scale organized mass solutions. Really gotta focus on re-localization for one thing. 

          • Hadrian999

            my concern is that without due care any new system would really only be a whitewash leaving the elite in place behind the scenes. I totally agree on localization.

      • Jin The Ninja

        and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

        • Hadrian999

          direct democracy could be problematic in the usa, abysmal levels of citizen participation in government coupled with total corporate control of all media could lead right back to where we are now. mutualism is interesting as well but one problem with it is who is going to spend the R&D money to create new products and discoveries without the capitalist economic incentive?

          • Anarchy Pony

            Do you really think that will matter anymore? It’s mostly pointless as it continues today, being driven only because it must, not because it is required. No one needs ipads, or iphones or tablets or most of the other pointless tech gizmos, they are being pushed for only because of their novelty, and are replaced with newer shinier versions to keep the novelty factor sharp. None of it is sustainable from an ecological standpoint, or even from a simple resource viewpoint. And it needlessly drives demand for energy which encourages incredibly destructive and pollutive practices aiming at filling that demand. 

          • Hadrian999

            stagnation is no better than extinction

          • Anarchy Pony

            Words fail me. That is just a ridiculous sentiment. Not pointlessly developing techno garbage will not lead to extinction, in fact it may be the only thing that can save us as organic beings and the biosphere. And if all the ridiculous techno singularity bullshit comes to pass, you can be sure that humanity in biological form will be extinct, and the only ones to reap the benefits will be the rich elites, the rest of us will either have our faces stepped on because we don’t want to surrender our lives and organic beings, or simply be left out in the cold, so to speak. 

          • Hadrian999

            the whole noble savage fantasy is fun but not workable, going back isn’t an option, what worked in the past with a much lower population will not work now. we must go forward of face butchery at a level that we have never known. when food production cant keep up with demand people  people will start slaughtering each other

          • Andrew

            I don’t think Wanooski said anything about noble savages, nor the elimination of all technology.  There’s a big difference between food production and the production of unnecessary and poisonous consumer products, and a big difference between ceasing production of such trifles and stagnation.

          • Hadrian999

            without some way to fund research the effect will be ending technology, that is the greatest problem i see with a combination of municipal ism and mutualism, you remove the necessary concentration of resources needed to pursue  research and development. without capitalism private organizations and individuals have no incentive or means to pursue research and without a strong central government there will not be a public source of research funds. I can’t see myself fighting to go back to the level of society in which 40 is old, you die of fever,  and minor injuries lame you for life

          • Andrew

            I’m not arguing against basic capitalism (or basic socialism)–I think everybody should own some means of production to help them take care of themselves if they can, and government should own some too to help those who can’t.  But financial profit is far from the only motive for human activity, especially among scientists.  I’d argue that the production of unneeded gadgets ultimately takes capital away from medicine, food production, and other useful things.  All it does is make money for the elites’ bank vaults, and money is merely a medium of exchange and not real capital.  Too much of this stuff is conflated, in my opinion.

            Besides, the medical technologies to prevent death by fever and repair minor injuries have already been invented, so I doubt you have to worry about that genie going back in the bottle because of a drop in the production of kindles.

          • Hadrian999

            if you stop pushing forward you die. once upon a time china and the middle east were centers of scientific knowledge then they stagnated and turned into intellectual backwaters the same thing happened to Europe in the dark ages. survival isn’t good enough. Like it or not fluff pays the bills, if you want people to work to their best they have to be either well compensated or punished severely when they aren’t productive. the big exciting discoveries are exciting and fulfilling but junk like digipets, Ipods, and smartphones are what fund all the deep research that has limited economic potential. a new antibiotic or cancer drug saves lives but viagra pays the bills.

          • Andrew

            Again, I’m not talking about stagnation.  I’m not talking about not moving.  Which way is “forward” is a matter of opinion and perspective.  I do not agree that the only way to fund cancer drugs is Viagra.  That’s not forward.  Other ways can and should be found.  As you and Jin_TheNinja agreed earlier, a new system can be thoughtfully devised, and which way humanity moves should be thoughtfully considered.

  • Wanooski

    But not easy. Or simple.

  • Hadrian999

    it all comes back to our broken record conversation, what to replace it with. any power vacuum will be filled, if you get rid of the current order you must be able to replace it with something that won’t be crushed or co opted by the elite

  • Wanooski

    Alright, down the road to extinction we march.

  • Hadrian999

    im not saying don’t try I’m just saying you can’t just shoot from the hip and trust to luck to make the next system better than the current one

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    and like i always say, ” direct democracy, mutualist economy and municipalism.”

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a cowboy, i don’t advocate quick draw tactics or stratagem. Anything that replaces our current system, must be deliberate, focused and most importantly codified.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a cowboy, i don’t advocate quick draw tactics or stratagem. Anything that replaces our current system, must be deliberate, focused and most importantly codified.

  • Hadrian999

    direct democracy could be problematic in the usa, abysmal levels of citizen participation in government coupled with total corporate control of all media could lead right back to where we are now. mutualism is interesting as well but one problem with it is who is going to spend the R&D money to create new products and discoveries without the capitalist economic incentive?

  • Wanooski

    Well, with the time frames we have to work with on biosphere ecological collapse, there may be very little time for any large scale organized mass solutions. Really gotta focus on re-localization for one thing. 

  • Wanooski

    Do you really think that will matter anymore? It’s mostly pointless as it continues today, being driven only because it must, not because it is required. No one needs ipads, or iphones or tablets or most of the other pointless tech gizmos, they are being pushed for only because of their novelty, and are replaced with newer shinier versions to keep the novelty factor sharp. None of it is sustainable from an ecological standpoint, or even from a simple resource viewpoint. And it needlessly drives demand for energy which encourages incredibly destructive and pollutive practices aiming at filling that demand. 

  • Hadrian999

    my concern is that without due care any new system would really only be a whitewash leaving the elite in place behind the scenes. I totally agree on localization.

  • Hadrian999

    my concern is that without due care any new system would really only be a whitewash leaving the elite in place behind the scenes. I totally agree on localization.

  • Hadrian999

    my concern is that without due care any new system would really only be a whitewash leaving the elite in place behind the scenes. I totally agree on localization.

  • Hadrian999

    my concern is that without due care any new system would really only be a whitewash leaving the elite in place behind the scenes. I totally agree on localization.

  • Hadrian999

    my concern is that without due care any new system would really only be a whitewash leaving the elite in place behind the scenes. I totally agree on localization.

  • Hadrian999

    my concern is that without due care any new system would really only be a whitewash leaving the elite in place behind the scenes. I totally agree on localization.

  • Hadrian999

    stagnation is no better than extinction

  • Wanooski

    Words fail me. That is just a ridiculous sentiment. Not pointlessly developing techno garbage will not lead to extinction, in fact it may be the only thing that can save us as organic beings and the biosphere. And if all the ridiculous techno singularity bullshit comes to pass, you can be sure that humanity in biological form will be extinct, and the only ones to reap the benefits will be the rich elites, the rest of us will either have our faces stepped on because we don’t want to surrender our lives and organic beings, or simply be left out in the cold, so to speak. 

  • Hadrian999

    the whole noble savage fantasy is fun but not workable, going back isn’t an option, what worked in the past with a much lower population will not work now. we must go forward of face butchery at a level that we have never known. when food production cant keep up with demand people  people will start slaughtering each other

  • Andrew

    I don’t think Wanooski said anything about noble savages, nor the elimination of all technology.  There’s a big difference between food production and the production of unnecessary and poisonous consumer products, and a big difference between ceasing production of such trifles and stagnation.

  • Hadrian999

    without some way to fund research the effect will be ending technology, that is the greatest problem i see with a combination of municipal ism and mutualism, you remove the necessary concentration of resources needed to pursue  research and development. without capitalism private organizations and individuals have no incentive or means to pursue research and without a strong central government there will not be a public source of research funds. I can’t see myself fighting to go back to the level of society in which 40 is old, you die of fever,  and minor injuries lame you for life

  • Statistics

    I would like to see productivity of both blacks and whites and the percentage of whites and blacks that are incarcerated and on parole, as well as unemployment rates.  Oh and don’t forget to put the standard deviation on these graphs.  If the unemployment rate of Blacks is 16% +/- 8% and Whites is 10% +/-2 then just throw that graph away.
    http://www.cepr.org/meets/wkcn/3/3510/papers/lang.pdf

  • Statistics

    I would like to see productivity of both blacks and whites and the percentage of whites and blacks that are incarcerated and on parole, as well as unemployment rates.  Oh and don’t forget to put the standard deviation on these graphs.  If the unemployment rate of Blacks is 16% +/- 8% and Whites is 10% +/-2 then just throw that graph away.
    http://www.cepr.org/meets/wkcn/3/3510/papers/lang.pdf

  • Statistics

    Actually dying of an infection is not uncommon.  Many people put off getting an abscess tooth fixed and hear the dentist tell them they could die from the infection.  Septicemia, infection in the blood, is the 10th leading cause of death in the United States.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002055/

    The story seems that he did not follow the doctors instructions.  Wal-Mart sells most antibiotics for $4 while generic pain medication can cost $30.  He had a choice between pain medication to treat the symptom and antibiotics to treat the disease.  He chose the symptom and died as a result.  As a family member said in the article, ‘ “He should have gone to the dentist to take care of the toothache, and
    it wouldn’t have escalated to this. It’s a lesson learned by all,”
    Collins said.’

  • Andrew

    I’m not arguing against basic capitalism (or basic socialism)–I think everybody should own some means of production to help them take care of themselves if they can, and government should own some too to help those who can’t.  But financial profit is far from the only motive for human activity, especially among scientists.  I’d argue that the production of unneeded gadgets ultimately takes capital away from medicine, food production, and other useful things.  All it does is make money for the elites’ bank vaults, and money is merely a medium of exchange and not real capital.  Too much of this stuff is conflated, in my opinion.

    Besides, the medical technologies to prevent death by fever and repair minor injuries have already been invented, so I doubt you have to worry about that genie going back in the bottle because of a drop in the production of kindles.

  • Hadrian999

    if you stop pushing forward you die. once upon a time china and the middle east were centers of scientific knowledge then they stagnated and turned into intellectual backwaters the same thing happened to Europe in the dark ages. survival isn’t good enough. Like it or not fluff pays the bills, if you want people to work to their best they have to be either well compensated or punished severely when they aren’t productive. the big exciting discoveries are exciting and fulfilling but junk like digipets, Ipods, and smartphones are what fund all the deep research that has limited economic potential. a new antibiotic or cancer drug saves lives but viagra pays the bills.

  • Andrew

    Again, I’m not talking about stagnation.  I’m not talking about not moving.  Which way is “forward” is a matter of opinion and perspective.  I do not agree that the only way to fund cancer drugs is Viagra.  That’s not forward.  Other ways can and should be found.  As you and Jin_TheNinja agreed earlier, a new system can be thoughtfully devised, and which way humanity moves should be thoughtfully considered.

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