CERN’s Neutrinos Travel Faster Than Speed Of Light

EinsteinScientists making discoveries that defy the laws of physics seems to be something of a theme this month. Now the eggheads at CERN say they’ve observed subatomic particles moving faster than the speed of light, which might theoretically allow us to travel back in time. Eryn Brown and Amina Khan report for the LA Times:

Albert Einstein had the idea. A century of observations have backed it up. It’s one of the cornerstones of physics: Nothing travels faster than the speed of light.

But now a team of experimental physicists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, known as CERN, says that one exotic particle possibly can.

The scientists reached their conclusion after sending streams of tiny, subatomic particles called neutrinos hurtling from an accelerator at CERN outside Geneva to a detector at the Gran Sasso National Laboratory in Italy, about 450 miles away.

The neutrinos seemed to get there too soon — 60 nanoseconds too soon, give or take — than they should if they’d been traveling at the speed of light.

That slight edge, if it holds up under scrutiny, has enormous implications for our understanding of the laws of nature, physicists said.

“Basically, all of special relativity would be wrong,” said Drexel University physics professor Dave Goldberg, referring to Einstein’s 1905 theory establishing that light travels at a constant speed, regardless of how fast an observer is traveling, and that nothing in the universe can go faster than it.

“If you have particles traveling faster than the speed of light, you can in principle go back in time. So you can be your own grandmother. As you can imagine, that causes some problems,” said Stephen Parke, a theoretical particle physicist at Fermilab in Batavia, Ill…

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  • connie dobbs

    I like it when junkies whose college major was growing their own pot call scientists with PhD’s “Eggheads”.  You hear that, science?!  YOU”RE NOT BETTER THAN MEE!

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      I particularly enjoy the more British “boffins” and don’t think it’s used frequently enough.

    • Adam

      I believe it was meant to be ironic. 

      And what’s up with people bagging on Disinfo all the damn time in the comments section? If you think the editors of the site are degenerate potheads then why are you here?

  • connie dobbs

    I like it when junkies whose college major was growing their own pot call scientists with PhD’s “Eggheads”.  You hear that, science?!  YOU”RE NOT BETTER THAN MEE!

  • Wanooski

    Right, let’s go back in time, I mean we thought we could just fuck up our own planet and shoot litter out into space, but now we can fuck up the whole space-time continuum!!! Cue evil maniacal laugh! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

  • Anarchy Pony

    Right, let’s go back in time, I mean we thought we could just fuck up our own planet and shoot litter out into space, but now we can fuck up the whole space-time continuum!!! Cue evil maniacal laugh! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

  • gra

    Can anyone out there help me out. Even if the neutrinos aren’t beating the speed of light, it appears certain their approaching it. Neutrinos supposedly have a minute amount of (rest?) mass, which no matter how small is growing without bound as advances toward the speed of light. Shouldn’t there be something happening to indicate this? What does mass, very specifically in this context, mean? 

  • gra

    Can anyone out there help me out. Even if the neutrinos aren’t beating the speed of light, it appears certain their approaching it. Neutrinos supposedly have a minute amount of (rest?) mass, which no matter how small is growing without bound as advances toward the speed of light. Shouldn’t there be something happening to indicate this? What does mass, very specifically in this context, mean? 

  • gra

    Can anyone out there help me out. Even if the neutrinos aren’t beating the speed of light, it appears certain their approaching it. Neutrinos supposedly have a minute amount of (rest?) mass, which no matter how small is growing without bound as advances toward the speed of light. Shouldn’t there be something happening to indicate this? What does mass, very specifically in this context, mean? 

  • http://twitter.com/Doktor_Wilhelm Doktor Wilhelm

    Even if I could travel into the past; there is very little chance I could become my own Grandmother, besides the fact that my grandfather isn’t my type; I’m afraid that I lack the correct female reproductive organs and my male genitalia would get in the way (as usual).

  • http://about.me/Doktor_Wilhelm Doktor Wilhelm

    Even if I could travel into the past; there is very little chance I could become my own Grandmother, besides the fact that my grandfather isn’t my type; I’m afraid that I lack the correct female reproductive organs and my male genitalia would get in the way (as usual).

    • SNBasu

      When reporters vomit,they forgot to think anout what they are vomiting…….You have said very well.

  • Dueyv9

    or….they could be 60 nanoseconds off on their calculation of the speed of light. I would definitely cut them a break there.

  • Dueyv9

    or….they could be 60 nanoseconds off on their calculation of the speed of light. I would definitely cut them a break there.

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    I particularly enjoy the more British “boffins” and don’t think it’s used frequently enough.

  • Anonymous

    This is just what the Reptillians WANT us to think!

  • Anonymous

    This is just what the Reptillians WANT us to think!

  • Redacted

    This is just what the Reptillians WANT us to think!

  • SNBasu

    When reporters vomit,they forgot to think anout what they are vomiting…….You have said very well.

  • RONIN

    I hope that this is eventually confirmed.

  • RONIN

    I hope that this is eventually confirmed.

  • Adam

    I believe it was meant to be ironic. 

    And what’s up with people bagging on Disinfo all the damn time in the comments section? If you think the editors of the site are degenerate potheads then why are you here?

  • http://strictlyapathy.comoj.com/ SoulArbiter

    So this new particle can cause time paradoxes? Pretty cool I guess.

    • RONIN

      It’s not a new particle. It would simply be a new property of a known particle. Namely, superluminal travel.

      • RONIN

        Well, a newly discovered property, that is.

    • Redacted

      It’s well known that you have to shoot Ocelot to cause a time paradox.

      • http://strictlyapathy.comoj.com/ SoulArbiter

        I thought if you just died you could do that.

  • http://strictlyapathy.comoj.com SoulArbiter

    So this new particle can cause time paradoxes? Pretty cool I guess.

  • RONIN

    It’s not a new particle. It would simply be a new property of a known particle. Namely, superluminal travel.

  • RONIN

    Well, a newly discovered property, that is.

  • Anonymous

    It’s well known that you have to shoot Ocelot to cause a time paradox.

  • Triangleye

    The same people that say Einstein is infallible in this day and age are the ones that will say that flying spaghetti monster is infallible 30 years from now.

  • Triangleye

    The same people that say Einstein is infallible in this day and age are the ones that will say that flying spaghetti monster is infallible 30 years from now.

  • http://strictlyapathy.comoj.com SoulArbiter

    I thought if you just died you could do that.

  • http://www.thepalmshotel.com Lucy Roach

    Just read an Umberto Eco article about the difference between “science” (the research behind stories like this) and “magic” (our reaction to it).  I would love to hear an interview with these folks explaining it, or a well-written niche article about it, to help dispel the magic.

  • Anonymous

    Just read an Umberto Eco article about the difference between “science” (the research behind stories like this) and “magic” (our reaction to it).  I would love to hear an interview with these folks explaining it, or a well-written niche article about it, to help dispel the magic.

  • Reptoid74

    Yo einstein, I’m really happy for you and imma let you finish.
    But that neutrino particle is the fastest particle of all time!!

  • Reptoid74

    Yo einstein, I’m really happy for you and imma let you finish.
    But that neutrino particle is the fastest particle of all time!!

  • Jbjbj

    awesome

  • Jbjbj

    awesome

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Angelo-Molinaro/100001717623149 Angelo Molinaro

    Yes we can travel faster than the speed of light. 
    Angelo Molinaro I had an article published in the scientific journal titled Galilean Electrodynamics Volume 15 Number1 January/Feburary 2004 issue.  The article was titled The Invariance of Mass, which proves mathematically that Mass is an invariant. This finding proves that we can travel faster than the speed of light.  I also wrote a book titled The Two State Universe which describes this finding.  The book also describes a new theory of the Universe and Gravity, and answere many of the unanswered questions  of Science.   
    I have an undergraduate degree from MIT, I also have a Doctor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, and a Doctor of Philosophy degree in Theoretical Physics.

    There is a saying in Science that a thousand experiments cannot prove a theory right, but one experiment can prove a theory wrong. 
    Angelo Molinaro, Tel.  570  489 3959 or 570  383 3844   e-mail   aamolinaro@aol.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Angelo-Molinaro/100001717623149 Angelo Molinaro

    Yes we can travel faster than the speed of light. 
    Angelo Molinaro I had an article published in the scientific journal titled Galilean Electrodynamics Volume 15 Number1 January/Feburary 2004 issue.  The article was titled The Invariance of Mass, which proves mathematically that Mass is an invariant. This finding proves that we can travel faster than the speed of light.  I also wrote a book titled The Two State Universe which describes this finding.  The book also describes a new theory of the Universe and Gravity, and answere many of the unanswered questions  of Science.   
    I have an undergraduate degree from MIT, I also have a Doctor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering, and a Doctor of Philosophy degree in Theoretical Physics.

    There is a saying in Science that a thousand experiments cannot prove a theory right, but one experiment can prove a theory wrong. 
    Angelo Molinaro, Tel.  570  489 3959 or 570  383 3844   e-mail   aamolinaro@aol.com

  • Daniel

    Albert Einstein saw what governments did with science. Killing millions using the end justifies the means.
    Maybe he decided that it would be better to discourage and slow down research in this area, Until we grow up.

       

  • Daniel

    Albert Einstein saw what governments did with science. Killing millions using the end justifies the means.
    Maybe he decided that it would be better to discourage and slow down research in this area, Until we grow up.