Joel’s Army and Omnicide in the Name of God

Joel's ArmyIf you’ve never heard of omnicide this article on Daily Kos from a few years back is helpful:

Yesterday, we revealed that John Hagee’s church is confirmedly within the “Joel’s Army” movement — a group of the “most extreme of the extreme” of neopentecostal dominionists, who believe they are part of a “third pentecost” designed to raise a group of divine ubermenschen to “name and claim” the world for their theology.

One of the parts of their theology that is very rarely discussed — save by a few of us researchers — is that they are one of the very few groups on the planet to literally have a theological mandate for not only genocide but near omnicide — both pre- and post-Tribulation. Combined with the known use of coercive tactics and the decidedly unique interpretations of Biblical verses that claim they’re part of an end-time army of “God Warriors “… it’s not exaggeration to state this is a potential threat to humanity.

Things re “Joel’s Army” Hagee doesn’t want you to know

One thing Hagee may not want folks to know about is the fact that “Joel’s Army” is a kissing cousin to the horribly racist “Assemblies granddaughter” Christian Identity — namely, one big thing they both promote (though in different contexts) is the concept of “Phineas Priests”.

Again, Let Us Reason notes this:

Rick Joyner teaches “”What is about to come upon the earth is not just a revival, or another awakening; it is a veritable revolution. The vision was given in order to begin to awaken those who are destined to radically change the course, and even the very definition of Christianity. The dismantling of organizations and disbanding of some works will be a positive and exhilarating experience for the Lord’s faithful servants…the Lord will raise up a great company of prophets, teachers, pastors and apostles that will be of the spirit of Phinehas … this “ministry of Phinehas” will save congregations, and at times, even whole nations. … Nations will tremble at the mention of their name …” (THE HARVEST, Rick Joyner)

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  • Wanooski

    So yeah I’ll join the fight against these psychopaths. Who’s with me!

  • Anarchy Pony

    So yeah I’ll join the fight against these psychopaths. Who’s with me!

    • Reasor

      It shouldn’t take much.  Their ethos sounds like it’s essentially one of suicide by cop.

      • Anarchy Pony

        After they have slaughtered a school bus full of children or something.

      • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

        the bad news is their ethos is ‘become a cop so you can get away with it’

    • Redacted

      So its the typical hate crazed fundies who want to rid the world of anything non white or non Christian, one molested child at a time.

      Let us purge them. I will begin training our Comrades in the proper use of Weapons.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      You must have read my slogan: “Liberal as hell…allowed to stay that way by Smith and Wesson.”

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XHMZQAXEPGZPKG5JVBFZQCEDC4 DigitalProductions

        That is one great quote! I’m stealin’ it but will attribute it to your username VoxMagi, if you don’t mind.

        • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

          Go for it dude :-) In these troubled times…even those of us who love peace…need to remember that the other side doesn’t. It isn’t about machismo or perpetuating a cycle of violence…its about still being there to celebrate when the dust settles. As my dad told me long ago , “Never start fights, son…but not everyone feels that way…so know good and goddamned well how to finish them.”

  • Mr Willow

    Every time I see anything said by these sorts of ‘revolutionary’ groups, I admit—somewhat embarrassingly—I always become unduly optimistic that there will be an actual revolution that turns Christianity toward what their man-god actually said, and follow the teachings he instructed: money to the poor, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, be meek and humble etc. etc.

    But then I remember these are fundamentalists who buried their noses in Revelation and just want to get to the end already. 

    Tis a shame. What a waste of what could have been a perfectly respectable ideology. 

  • Mr Willow

    Every time I see anything said by these sorts of ‘revolutionary’ groups, I admit—somewhat embarrassingly—I always become unduly optimistic that there will be an actual revolution that turns Christianity toward what their man-god actually said, and follow the teachings he instructed: money to the poor, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, be meek and humble etc. etc.

    But then I remember these are fundamentalists who buried their noses in Revelation and just want to get to the end already. 

    Tis a shame. What a waste of what could have been a perfectly respectable ideology. 

  • Roar

    “The knell tolls… divine holocaust by the grace of the black moonThe apocalyptic vision for all the world to bear witness to this, the opening of the woundYour numinous kingdom now flows with bloodAntagonist…. come forth and defy my bloodwar at the first lightof dawnCrowned lord beheaded before me; glimpse your god dethronedIconoclast, the glorification of darknessAll is gone…. he is deadPureblood of iniquity unfurl the wings of infamyScraph enthralled by desecrationOur bloodwar towards completionPurgate all thought on divinationThe knell tolls on foreverLightless…. amid empyrean collapseBehold the throne of chaosLightless…. amid empyrean ablazeBehold the throne of chaosDefy my imperious vehemence, their kingdom birns in flamesThe ashes of god I bequeath beneath our feet…. defiledIn reverence… in reverence… in reverence they weepDefy my imperious vehemence, their kingdom burns in flamesThe ashes of god drape the earth, the pious gather…. watch as their sacrosancts bleedIn reverence… in reverence… in reverence they weep in the Sign of the HornsThey weep in the Sign of the Horns, glory to blasphemy of idolsSatanic Millenium…. upheavelLet the joyless be adorned with horns”

    Vital Remains, “Behold the Throne of Chaos”

  • Roar

    “The knell tolls… divine holocaust by the grace of the black moonThe apocalyptic vision for all the world to bear witness to this, the opening of the woundYour numinous kingdom now flows with bloodAntagonist…. come forth and defy my bloodwar at the first lightof dawnCrowned lord beheaded before me; glimpse your god dethronedIconoclast, the glorification of darknessAll is gone…. he is deadPureblood of iniquity unfurl the wings of infamyScraph enthralled by desecrationOur bloodwar towards completionPurgate all thought on divinationThe knell tolls on foreverLightless…. amid empyrean collapseBehold the throne of chaosLightless…. amid empyrean ablazeBehold the throne of chaosDefy my imperious vehemence, their kingdom birns in flamesThe ashes of god I bequeath beneath our feet…. defiledIn reverence… in reverence… in reverence they weepDefy my imperious vehemence, their kingdom burns in flamesThe ashes of god drape the earth, the pious gather…. watch as their sacrosancts bleedIn reverence… in reverence… in reverence they weep in the Sign of the HornsThey weep in the Sign of the Horns, glory to blasphemy of idolsSatanic Millenium…. upheavelLet the joyless be adorned with horns”

    Vital Remains, “Behold the Throne of Chaos”

  • DeepCough

    Would it be considered genocide if we killed these nutjobs off first?

  • DeepCough

    Would it be considered genocide if we killed these nutjobs off first?

  • DeepCough

    Would it be considered genocide if we killed these nutjobs off first?

    • Anarchy Pony

      I dunno. But I believe in the second amendment because of nutjobs like this.

  • Wanooski

    I dunno. But I believe in the second amendment because of nutjobs like this.

  • Anonymous

    It shouldn’t take much.  Their ethos sounds like it’s essentially one of suicide by cop.

  • Wanooski

    After they have slaughtered a school bus full of children or something.

  • ICE

    these are the zombies. the time of total religious thinking is dead and these are the remaining undead.

  • ICE

    these are the zombies. the time of total religious thinking is dead and these are the remaining undead.

  • Haystack

    They seem like perfect villains for a post-apocalyptic novel. 

  • Haystack

    They seem like perfect villains for a post-apocalyptic novel. 

    • Anarchy Pony

      Yes, yes they do.

  • Anonymous

    So its the typical hate crazed fundies who want to rid the world of anything non white or non Christian, one molested child at a time.

    Let us purge them. I will begin training our Comrades in the proper use of Weapons.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    the bad news is their ethos is ‘become a cop so you can get away with it’

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    You must have read my slogan: “Liberal as hell…allowed to stay that way by Smith and Wesson.”

  • 5by5

    I’ve been seeing ads painted on taxi windows and the like for “The Harvest”, here in Los Angeles:

    http://www.harvest.org/crusades/2011/los-angeles/event-information/home.html

    So this crap is coming to L.A. like this week to warp minds even here — it might soon be coming to a far more vulnerable town near you.

  • 5by5

    I’ve been seeing ads painted on taxi windows and the like for “The Harvest”, here in Los Angeles:

    http://www.harvest.org/crusades/2011/los-angeles/event-information/home.html

    So this crap is coming to L.A. like this week to warp minds even here — it might soon be coming to a far more vulnerable town near you.

  • 5by5

    From the article:”Vigilantes Of Christendom,” describes these warriors. He says of them, “As the Kamikaze is to the Japanese, As the Shiite is to Islam, As the Zionist is to the Jew, So the Phineas priest is to Christendom.” It is very clear that they are preparing to slaughter those who resist their authority.

  • 5by5

    From the article:”Vigilantes Of Christendom,” describes these warriors. He says of them, “As the Kamikaze is to the Japanese, As the Shiite is to Islam, As the Zionist is to the Jew, So the Phineas priest is to Christendom.” It is very clear that they are preparing to slaughter those who resist their authority.

    • Anarchy Pony

      Unfortunately, some of us are able slaughter back.

      • Andrew

        In what way is that unfortunate?

        • Anarchy Pony

          For them, not we.

      • 5by5

        “Slaughtering back” might be initially satisfying, but it’s not particularly creative. Making them irrelevant, powerless, and marginalized is much more fun. Simply moving into the 21st century and beyond and leaving them to flounder in the dust, takes a bit more work that just lobbing a bullet at them, but it’s more permanent, because they can’t even get what they really want, which is martyrdom. In this, they are no different than the Jihadi wackjobs. They’re all a bunch of drama queens. No offense meant to actual queens who are way cooler.

        • Anarchy Pony

          Marginalizing them in the end will likely only make them resort to ever more drastic measures. These people don’t seem like they want to be martyrs like jihadis though.

  • Wanooski

    Yes, yes they do.

  • Wanooski

    Unfortunately, some of us are able slaughter back.

  • Andrew

    In what way is that unfortunate?

  • Wanooski

    For them, not we.

  • 5by5

    “Slaughtering back” might be initially satisfying, but it’s not particularly creative. Making them irrelevant, powerless, and marginalized is much more fun. Simply moving into the 21st century and beyond and leaving them to flounder in the dust, takes a bit more work that just lobbing a bullet at them, but it’s more permanent, because they can’t even get what they really want, which is martyrdom. In this, they are no different than the Jihadi wackjobs. They’re all a bunch of drama queens. No offense meant to actual queens who are way cooler.

  • http://www.facebook.com/paul.tannahill Paul Tannahill

    Reminds me of another major world religion whose scripture actually does promote global domination.

  • Paul Tannahill

    Reminds me of another major world religion whose scripture actually does promote global domination.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XHMZQAXEPGZPKG5JVBFZQCEDC4 DigitalProductions

    That is one great quote! I’m stealin’ it but will attribute it to your username VoxMagi, if you don’t mind.

  • Wanooski

    Marginalizing them in the end will likely only make them resort to ever more drastic measures. These people don’t seem like they want to be martyrs like jihadis though.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Go for it dude :-) In these troubled times…even those of us who love peace…need to remember that the other side doesn’t. It isn’t about machismo or perpetuating a cycle of violence…its about still being there to celebrate when the dust settles. As my dad told me long ago , “Never start fights, son…but not everyone feels that way…so know good and goddamned well how to finish them.”

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