On Bullying

Bullying is taught in schools, churches and families throughout America. Bullying is a common practice in our military training. An extremely prevalent form of this teaching is “group punishment.” One person or more breaks the rules or is accused of not carrying his or her weight; and everyone is punished for the perpetrators’ infractions or inadequacies simply because they’re in that class or unit.

This incites the group to pressure the perpetrators into working harder or altering their behavior. This form of bullying is also very common in the work place and is an encouraged form of harassment. This pressure is “bullying” and it takes many forms: Beatings, hostile behavior and threats, ostracism, and many other forms of harassment. At Columbine the victims of bullies bullied back and only after that did people speak out against bullying on a nation-wide scale.

They formed organizations to prevent and stop bullying. All of their efforts are in vain until we stop the unjust practice of group punishment. Bullying will continue as unchecked as ever before unless we stop teaching people that bullying is an acceptable way to direct a group or society itself. America if you want to stop bullying: Stop Teaching and Encouraging It!

— ISN, Rev. Michael S. Margolin

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  • God

    You’re an idiot.

    • Jin The Ninja

      Cyberbully sarcasm?

      • giallo

        death to monoculture!!!!

    • Sogom

      god is an idiot.

      • BaphometRex666

        I agree God is an idiot but no more pathetic than tuna ghost

  • God

    You’re an idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Cyberbully sarcasm?

  • giallo

    death to monoculture!!!!

  • Tuna Ghost

    This incites the group to pressure the perpetrators into working harder or altering their behavior. 
    As a teacher, I feel obligated to add: it also gets results.  

    • TennesseeCyberian

      So does a good ass-whipping.  For once we agree on something.  Isn’t love grand?

      • Tuna Ghost

        I went to a private high school where paddling was still allowed.  It was a stronger deterrent for me than the threat of detention, that’s for sure.  

        Unfortunately, as much as it tempts me, strangling a student in front of his peers is rather frowned upon by the Ministry of Education.  When I first started teaching in Korea capital punishment was still en vogue and the other teachers had no qualms about donkey-punching a repeat offender.  I saw this one lady full-on clock a student twice her size right in the jaw.  For a while I thought I’d get to see someone roundhouse kick a kid through a window, but no dice.  

      • Tuna Ghost

        hahaha corporal punishment, rather.  Wringing a kid’s neck like a chicken is still very much against the regulations.  

    • do not disturb

      creates violent results 

      • Tuna Ghost

        not in my experience.  Why would it?  It’s a non-violent method of adjusting behavior.

        • TennesseeCyberian

          Perhaps they are taking you out of context.  I would say, though, that having been bullied after my church youth group or scout troup was punished because of me, I definitely avoided that behavior until I finally became a hopelessly anti-social teen.  Then I couldn’t give a fuck who was pissed at me.  I don’t blame the punishment or the bullying, though.  I was just a typical maladjusted teen.

          This Baphomet Rex guy claims Satanic roots for his philosophy, no?  Seems like a Satanist could take it on the chin with a little more dignity.

        • do not disturb

          just because you are a teacher does not mean you are the best teacher. Group punishment is effing stupid you dont want dumbass kids who have not been educated yet doing the policing for you. Its like giving trained monkeys guns…

          • ArgosyJones

            Or like giving you a computer!

          • Tuna Ghost

            just because you are a teacher does not mean you are the best teacher.

            yeah, no shit genius.  “My experience” also includes every classroom I’ve ever been in as a student.  It’s a successful tactic because children often care far more about the opinion of their peers than their teacher.  You’ll find this tactic used all over, actually, not just in classrooms.

    • D-pete

      So, If I bully someone because I want their money and they give the money to me, I have a result and am therefore justified in my means?

      • Tuna Ghost

        I have no idea why you’re comparing it to robbery, or assuming that the practice is inherently immoral and thus subject to the whole “so the ends justify the means, eh?  You monster?” business.  If a student refuses to be directed by the teacher, then using his peers to adjust his behavior is an effective method used by pretty much every teacher I’ve ever had.  

        • Andrew

          Punishing one person, let alone many people, for the transgressions of one other is inherently immoral and unjust.

    • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

      Shit…its the first secret lesson of managers everywhere: make people monitor themselves rather than make you monitor all of them.

      It’s too much for one person to spend all day riding every single slackass…that much individual attention in impossible to deliver on a limited timeline…so you make the other bastards part of the management process…by being the deliverer of a worse alternative that will only come true IF THEY DON’T DO THEIR FREAKING JOBS. Works on kids, marines, and assembly plant employees with equal effectiveness :-) Also…handy when dealing with housemates who don’t meet their responsibilities.

      Sure, some call it bullying and compare it (inaccurately) to being physically assaulted when they were kids…

      …these people are usually EXACTLY the slackasses that make such policies necessary…which is why they bitch about them instead of just doing what they’re supposed to in the first place.

  • Tuna Ghost

    This incites the group to pressure the perpetrators into working harder or altering their behavior. 
    As a teacher, I feel obligated to add: it also gets results.  

  • JoJoDancer

    So does a good ass-whipping.  For once we agree on something.  Isn’t love grand?

  • do not disturb

    creates violent results 

  • D-pete

    So, If I bully someone because I want their money and they give the money to me, I have a result and am therefore justified in my means?

  • http://www.leanonus.co/ Sonya

    Interesting :)

  • http://twitter.com/Sonya_LeanOnUs Sonya

    Interesting :)

  • Tuna Ghost

    not in my experience.  Why would it?  It’s a non-violent method of adjusting behavior.

  • Tuna Ghost

    I have no idea why you’re comparing it to robbery, or assuming that the practice is inherently immoral and thus subject to the whole “so the ends justify the means, eh?  You monster?” business.  If a student refuses to be directed by the teacher, then using his peers to adjust his behavior is an effective method used by pretty much every teacher I’ve ever had.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    I went to a private high school where paddling was still allowed.  It was a stronger deterrent for me than the threat of detention, that’s for sure.  

    Unfortunately, as much as it tempts me, strangling a student in front of his peers is rather frowned upon by the Ministry of Education.  When I first started teaching in Korea capital punishment was still en vogue and the other teachers had no qualms about donkey-punching a repeat offender.  I saw this one lady full-on clock a student twice her size right in the jaw.  For a while I thought I’d get to see someone roundhouse kick a kid through a window, but no dice.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    hahaha corporal punishment, rather.  Wringing a kid’s neck like a chicken is still very much against the regulations.  

  • Annonymouth

    I don’t disagree with the basic thrust of this but would hasten to mention that the accepted narrative of the Columbine shootings is a myth: Erik and Dylan were not victims of bullying.  They’d attended their prom a few days before and had, in fact, had many friends.

    The reports of bullying and the “Trenchcoat Mafia” (of which neither boy belonged to; their attire on the day of the shootings was merely expedient) were generated in the chaotic aftermath, when a media hungry for information, and facing a wall of silence from local authorities (in part due to the existence of an extensive file they’d compiled and subsequently ignored on the boys’ bomb-making exploits), went to a hysterical student body for (simple) answers.

    • http://twitter.com/D351 D351

      Been reading some disinfo books, eh? Good stuff.

  • Annonymouth

    I don’t disagree with the basic thrust of this but would hasten to mention that the accepted narrative of the Columbine shootings is a myth: Erik and Dylan were not victims of bullying.  They’d attended their prom a few days before and had, in fact, had many friends.

    The reports of bullying and the “Trenchcoat Mafia” (of which neither boy belonged to; their attire on the day of the shootings was merely expedient) were generated in the chaotic aftermath, when a media hungry for information, and facing a wall of silence from local authorities (in part due to the existence of an extensive file they’d compiled and subsequently ignored on the boys’ bomb-making exploits), went to a hysterical student body for (simple) answers.

  • DeepCough

    The United States is the biggest bully of the world, so what would its citizens care if there were bullying at home?

  • DeepCough

    The United States is the biggest bully of the world, so what would its citizens care if there were bullying at home?

  • JoJoDancer

    Perhaps they are taking you out of context.  I would say, though, that having been bullied after my church youth group or scout troup was punished because of me, I definitely avoided that behavior until I finally became a hopelessly anti-social teen.  Then I couldn’t give a fuck who was pissed at me.  I don’t blame the punishment or the bullying, though.  I was just a typical maladjusted teen.

    This Baphomet Rex guy claims Satanic roots for his philosophy, no?  Seems like a Satanist could take it on the chin with a little more dignity.

  • do not disturb

    just because you are a teacher does not mean you are the best teacher. Group punishment is effing stupid you dont want dumbass kids who have not been educated yet doing the policing for you. Its like giving trained monkeys guns…

  • ArgosyJones

    Or like giving you a computer!

  • Tuna Ghost

    Baphomet Rex claims…a lot of things, really.  He’s a confused young man.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    just because you are a teacher does not mean you are the best teacher.

    yeah, no shit genius.  “My experience” also includes every classroom I’ve ever been in as a student.  It’s a successful tactic because children often care far more about the opinion of their peers than their teacher.  You’ll find this tactic used all over, actually, not just in classrooms.

  • Feintruled

    Collective punishment always seemed terribly unfair to me. It breeds a sense of resentment and distrust of authority in the innocent (though perhaps a healthy distrust of authority is no bad thing), but it is a dishonest way of punishing the offender. You are basically leaving it to others who do not have to submit to the same scruples as you do. Kind of like shipping terrorist suspects off to middle-eastern countries to get interrogated. You aren’t prepared to do the dirty work, but you know a guy who will while you can deny all knowledge.

  • Feintruled

    Collective punishment always seemed terribly unfair to me. It breeds a sense of resentment and distrust of authority in the innocent (though perhaps a healthy distrust of authority is no bad thing), but it is a dishonest way of punishing the offender. You are basically leaving it to others who do not have to submit to the same scruples as you do. Kind of like shipping terrorist suspects off to middle-eastern countries to get interrogated. You aren’t prepared to do the dirty work, but you know a guy who will while you can deny all knowledge.

  • http://twitter.com/D351 D351

    Been reading some disinfo books, eh? Good stuff.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Shit…its the first secret lesson of managers everywhere: make people monitor themselves rather than make you monitor all of them.

    It’s too much for one person to spend all day riding every single slackass…that much individual attention in impossible to deliver on a limited timeline…so you make the other bastards part of the management process…by being the deliverer of a worse alternative that will only come true IF THEY DON’T DO THEIR FREAKING JOBS. Works on kids, marines, and assembly plant employees with equal effectiveness :-) Also…handy when dealing with housemates who don’t meet their responsibilities.

    Sure, some call it bullying and compare it (inaccurately) to being physically assaulted when they were kids…

    …these people are usually EXACTLY the slackasses that make such policies necessary…which is why they bitch about them instead of just doing what they’re supposed to in the first place.

  • Sogom

    god is an idiot.

  • BaphometRex666

    And you are a moron that brain washes our youth to be just as fucked up as you are.
    Glad I’m still young at 48 MORON!

  • BaphometRex666

    Notice the article is pointing out a major oversight not whining about being bullied. Where did you learn this cheap spin doctor crap that moron Tuna Casper?  “Take one on the chin”, what a douche bag you are.
    Now if the article was a whine session your comment would have been appropriate but since it is not you exposed yourself as a 3rd rate manipulator. You and Tuna should get a room.

  • BaphometRex666

    I agree God is an idiot but no more pathetic than tuna ghost

  • Tuna Ghost

    48?  Well now I’m just embarrassed for you

  • BaphometRex666

    Save the embarrassment for yourself Tuna you moron, you’re the one that has exposed himself time and time again on my articles. This time the cowardly little pussy let’s us all know he is one of the problems with the education system. I sure hope a bigot like you isn’t working for a public school. You know my name you little pussy what’s yours bitch? All your attempts at discrediting my articles fail and all you do is show the world what a fucking loser you are. Come on give us a name to go the the disgrace to society you are.
    You pussy ass bitch coward!
    Yes I know I’m bullying and yes Tuna has earned this and more, and since  I can’t legally publicly flog him this is as good as it gets. Tuna you’re a fucking Douche Bag!
    In Satan’s Name
    Rev. Michael S. Margolin

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Well…at least he didn’t get your metaphorical goat…

  • BaphometRex666

    Vox you’re just as much of a bigot as Tuna Ghost look what you wrote,

    ..these people are usually EXACTLY the slackasses that make such
    policies necessary…which is why they bitch about them instead of just
    doing what they’re supposed to in the first place.

    And in case you don’t realize what a bigoted blanket statement you made was I’m glad I got to rub your fucking nose in it.

  • Tuna Ghost

    U mad bro?

    Ha.  But no seriously, I guess everyone who points out your faults is a bigot, huh?  Fortunately for you, calling someone names online is “rubbing their nose in it”.  I’m not sure how that works, but hell if it makes you feel better.

  • Tuna Ghost

    Aww you’re adorable when you’re upset, did you know that?  Adorable.  But I must add that “discrediting” your articles would require them to have a shred of credibility to begin with.  You’re giving yourself a bit too much credit, I’m afraid.  They’re so insubstantial that discrediting them is nearly impossible.  Don’t worry, that’s not pathetic or anything.  A middle-aged satanist who gets so upset at people disagreeing with him on the internet he neglects to actually make any points or defend his position.  

    Not pathetic at all.

    Not at all.

  • BaphometRex666

    I’m not upset and you just can help but show the world what a stupid pompous ass you are.
    If one of your students blows your fucking head off with a shot gun may he be rewarded instead of punished for truly their act would be one of civic duty. And if my articles had no merit you would not waste your time piss poorly attempting to discredit them. The funny thing is you are to stupid to realize what a bigoted moron you are.

  • BaphometRex666

    Who are you or anyone to point out the faults of others?
    You just don’t get it do you?
    America is for free people not control freaks like you.
    And how bout that name you coward?
    Huh pussy what’s your name?
    You won’t say it because your nothing more than a cowardly little pussy hiding behind a computer.

  • Tuna Ghost

    hahaha no you’re not upset at all.  The things you write are obviously written by a calm hand, not one that is trembling from impotent rage.  This is exactly what I’m talking about: Adorable.  I wish I could bottle you up and take you home with me.

  • Tuna Ghost

    America is for free people not control freaks like you.

    Wait, doesn’t that mean I’m free to point out your faults?  …You’re not 48, are you?  You’re a teenager.  Ah.  It becomes clear.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    America is for free people not control freaks like you.

    Wait, doesn’t that mean I’m free to point out your faults?  …You’re not 48, are you?  You’re a teenager.  Ah.  It becomes clear.  

  • Tuna Ghost

    Oh god, I’ve got to stop.  It’s like bullying a child.  Oh lord what have I become

  • Tuna Ghost

    Oh god, I’ve got to stop.  It’s like bullying a child.  Oh lord what have I become

  • Tuna Ghost

    Ugh you are really bringing out the bully in me, aren’t you?  This is all so…unseemly.  I feel filthy.  

  • BaphometRex666

    You have become that tyrant your private school programed you to be.
    You are a tool of the Catholic church playing sheep dog to society.
    You are a monster that believes forcing your perspective on others is your god given right.
    So pussy how bout that name? Or are you afraid the school board will hold you accountable for your actions and ban you from teaching the rest of your cowardly little life because you are truly a bigot.

  • Andrew

    Punishing one person, let alone many people, for the transgressions of one other is inherently immoral and unjust.

  • BaphometRex666

    You are so clues it’s shameful.
    You see since I can’t do what I really want to do this is merely the next best thing.
    So Pussy how bout that name you cowardly little bitch?
    Huh pussy? here pussy pussy pussy how bout that name pussy.
    Hey Tuna even your nick name smells like pussy.

  • BaphometRex666

    PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY!
    PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY!
    That’s all you deserve, O that and coward.
    So how bout that name tuna cunt?
    You cowardly little bitch!
    Rev. Michael Shane Margolin do a google bitch!
    Now coward how bout giving the world your name so we can hold you accountable for your words.
    You won’t because you are a cowardly little pussy in his parents basement in the corner with Cheeto’s and a Tab.

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Dude…have you looked at your vapid self indulgent prattle lately? You come off like a persecuted Christian who authors all their own problems but doesn’t grasp their own connection to their issues…it must be someone elses fault. You actually embarrass the entire concept and history of Satanism with your whining. Drawing a connection between social manipulation and physical bullying…not to mention trying to drag in Columbine and completely excising all the contrary facts…basically…you’re an illiterate douchebag with a grudge and comp. Go fuck yourself.

  • BaphometRex666

    Go Fuck yourself MORON I’m not a Lavey Satanist STUPID!
    Not into self indulgence but I am into beating down bullies like yourself.
    WHERE DID I EVER WHINE YOU COWARDLY LITTLE TWIT?
    POINT IT OUT BITCH! YOU CAN”T!
    All you can do is make these pathetic attempts to discredit my article but I’m here fucking up all you’re attempts and pointing out your bigotry with your own posts.
    You’re just as much of an ignorant pussy as that moron tuna ghost.
    So what’s your name BITCH?
    Are you just as much as a fucking little pussy coward as tuna?
    I BET YOU ARE, AND NEITHER ONE OF YOU COWARDLY LITTLE PUSSY’S WILL POST YOUR NAMES.
    so fuck off pussy!

  • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

    Calm down butch…we’re on the interwebz…so its mighty bold words from a sad, lonely, pathetic dweeb pounding the keyboard in frustration when others point out his fallacies and gross inadequacies. I think your response pretty much irons out the issue of whether you have have anything worth saying or not…

    …but that aside…I’m a redneck faggot from Michigan…and I’ve stomped a mudhole in more bold talkers than I can count…so even if a 48 year old pseudo-satanist with a crybaby complex wanted to play…I’d feel a little guilty about kicking the walker out from under him. 

    I am Michael Hanna, aged punk, merry jester, dreamer and poet, scoundrel and sophist…

    …and you are a pathetic wreck of a human being…an epic failure flinging himself into the gristmill of the web . Seek medical attention…they have drugs that can help.   

  • BaphometRex666

    Go Fuck Yourself Michael Hanna!
    At least you are not a coward, a bigot and a plague upon free people but you are no coward unlike Tuna Ghost “Douche Bag” of the year.

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