The GOP And The End Times

GOPMaybe there will be a silver lining to the increasingly apparent 2012 End TimesRolling Stone‘s Matt Taibbi suggests that apocalyptic madness might well sink the Republican candidates:

I’m submitting a memo to my bosses at Rolling Stone this morning, asking for permission to skip all coverage of the Republican primary season from this point forward. Why? Because Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann have just summed up the entire Republican storyline with perfect precision, through their respective responses to Hurricane Irene. There’s really not much left for any pundit to add, after this weekend’s quips.

Michele Bachmann says Hurricane Irene is God’s way of telling Washington that it is spending too much.

For his part, Ron Paul says hurricane relief isn’t the responsibility of the state and we should stop using tax dollars to rescue people. Apparently we should go back to our year-1900 disaster policies, which included watching 6,000 people die in a hurricane that hit Galveston, Texas.

What else does anyone need to hear? There are two powerful wings of the Republican Party heading into 2012, and these two comments sum them up perfectly.

The Ron Paul camp believes government has no role at all.

The Michele Bachmann camp also believes that government has no role at all – but she differs from Paul in that she learned this through personal communication with the Almighty.

This is what the Republican debate is going to boil down to: a question of authority.

If you believe the Bible is the only book you ever need to read, you’ll vote for Bachmann or Santorum, or maybe Rick Perry.

If you think the sacred text is The Road to Serfdom, you’ll vote for Ron Paul (or, Rick Perry hopes, maybe Rick Perry).

Both rhetorical strategies are heavily dependent upon apocalyptic imagery. From the Road to Serfdom crew, we’re going to hear a lot about the impending socialist takeover and an imminent international financial collapse tied to government/Fed spending policy

[continues at Rolling Stone]

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  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is like a lovely bowl of fruit with a massive shit in the middle. I want that fruit, it looks nice, but am I really going to have to touch that shit to get to it? Sigh…

  • BrianApocalypse

    Ron Paul is like a lovely bowl of fruit with a massive shit in the middle. I want that fruit, it looks nice, but am I really going to have to touch that shit to get to it? Sigh…

    • ChristianHypocrite

      At least there’s fruit.

      • Nunzio X

        But on the other hand, they say “You are what you eat.” So no fruit or shit for me, thank you.

  • Athenaclark

    Excuse me, Ron Paul said that FEMA, a FEDERAL AGENCY BORN IN THE 70’s only has made matters worse, and A STATE RESPONSE is all that is necessary AND IF YOU READ about all the FRAUD in FEMA contracts you will agree with him. STOP THE MISQUOTES 

  • Athenaclark

    Excuse me, Ron Paul said that FEMA, a FEDERAL AGENCY BORN IN THE 70’s only has made matters worse, and A STATE RESPONSE is all that is necessary AND IF YOU READ about all the FRAUD in FEMA contracts you will agree with him. STOP THE MISQUOTES 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EAPUJHWIYQJWKN7HUCSCVHKVTQ David Meadows

      Do you honestly think that there isn’t any fraud at the state level of disaster Relief?  Should we then take away state response, which in many cases is filled with just as much fraud and favoritism.  Should we end the National Guard as well seeing as how they are federally funded and only state funded when they are called upon to do duties of the state?  I don’t think these federal and state agencies should be totally abandoned.  What really needs to happen is restructure and we should have a say on who gets appointed to these offices.

      • Dueyv9

        Lately all the state and FEMA does is wait……until the storm is over and then come in and clean up and tell people what to do. Then insurance companies come and say you can’t be covered for the damages. They do minimal work at best. And Katrina was a great example. They basically cover their asses by saying “oh we told you to leave. It wasn’t our fault you stayed.” The people who did leave they just threw in a stadium.  And they waited days before checking out the aftermath. It also didnt help that they had mike brown there at the time.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EAPUJHWIYQJWKN7HUCSCVHKVTQ David Meadows

          Most FEMA leaders have had no prior emergency management experience whatsoever. 

      • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

        People feel (or at least used to) that they have at least a little control over their own states policies. Also, the advantage to the state system in the United STATES is that the STATES are responsible to take care of themselves. Variable approaches can be tried, and the states that have the best system when it gets down to it, can be mimiced by other states. Its actually an impressive, effectively scientific approach when you actually allow it to work like it was originally intended…

    • Redacted

      Random capitalization of words. Classic signal of an old person.

      • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

        Damn old people… reading the constitution, and trying to tell us young’uns what to do

        • Redacted

          I think mass executions will do the job much better.

  • Ciaociao

    since they /politicians/  believe government has no role in helping people out, government should not be paid, neither taxes should be claimed out of the citizens and people should organize themselves and help each other out – government should go on a vacation to wat-was-that-grove-they-visit-regularly and they should stay there if they wish – citizens can/will manage to get their life sorted much better that governors

  • Ciaociao

    since they /politicians/  believe government has no role in helping people out, government should not be paid, neither taxes should be claimed out of the citizens and people should organize themselves and help each other out – government should go on a vacation to wat-was-that-grove-they-visit-regularly and they should stay there if they wish – citizens can/will manage to get their life sorted much better that governors

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EAPUJHWIYQJWKN7HUCSCVHKVTQ David Meadows

    Do you honestly think that there isn’t any fraud at the state level of disaster Relief?  Should we then take away state response, which in many cases is filled with just as much fraud and favoritism.  Should we end the National Guard as well seeing as how they are federally funded and only state funded when they are called upon to do duties of the state?  I don’t think these federal and state agencies should be totally abandoned.  What really needs to happen is restructure and we should have a say on who gets appointed to these offices.

  • Mamagriff50

    If the GOP has their way the only people being helped out by the tax dollar would be the wealthy and the corporations. Everyone else should fend for themselves with what little $ they have left.

  • Mamagriff50

    If the GOP has their way the only people being helped out by the tax dollar would be the wealthy and the corporations. Everyone else should fend for themselves with what little $ they have left.

  • Dueyv9

    Lately all the state and FEMA does is wait……until the storm is over and then come in and clean up and tell people what to do. Then insurance companies come and say you can’t be covered for the damages. They do minimal work at best. And Katrina was a great example. They basically cover their asses by saying “oh we told you to leave. It wasn’t our fault you stayed.” The people who did leave they just threw in a stadium.  And they waited days before checking out the aftermath. It also didnt help that they had mike brown there at the time.

  • Dueyv9

    Lately all the state and FEMA does is wait……until the storm is over and then come in and clean up and tell people what to do. Then insurance companies come and say you can’t be covered for the damages. They do minimal work at best. And Katrina was a great example. They basically cover their asses by saying “oh we told you to leave. It wasn’t our fault you stayed.” The people who did leave they just threw in a stadium.  And they waited days before checking out the aftermath. It also didnt help that they had mike brown there at the time.

  • Calvin Steele

    Why is it so appalling the idea of a country where victims of natural and economic disaster are not taking care of by the federal government but rather directly by the people of the country ? To those for a socialist government, make no mistake, tax dollars are your dollars. If you want to help, give to charity. But why should we constantly feed this huge Federal monster that does more harm than good in regards to our prosperity?

    We need to pay taxes to an organisation that will advance us in science and keep our country safe from invaders because those our two things that profits to us all, regardless of rather or not we are willing “chip in” for them.
    Other than that, I believe that justice and free market will in time bring prosperity without the need for tax intervention. 

    Ron Paul = end of fractional banking; end of the fed; small government; and hopefully justice… 

    • Redacted

      Ron Paul = return to feudalism

      • ARonPaulSupporter

        That’s simply retarded. Every counter argument people are making about Ron Paul is either false, or twisted in some way. He is our best hope of getting this country back on track. His personal views on many controversial things are just that, “personal views.” He is going to limit government and allow the states to make there own decisions in regards to controversial issues. (U know, the way it should be!) You need not fear his christian values or views about abortion, they will not affect you! 

        We come out of the wood work to comment because people are mislead.

      • BenBernake

        SuddenlySpam = Crazy lunatic 

  • Calvin Steele

    Why is it so appalling the idea of a country where victims of natural and economic disaster are not taking care of by the federal government but rather directly by the people of the country ? To those for a socialist government, make no mistake, tax dollars are your dollars. If you want to help, give to charity. But why should we constantly feed this huge Federal monster that does more harm than good in regards to our prosperity?

    We need to pay taxes to an organisation that will advance us in science and keep our country safe from invaders because those our two things that profits to us all, regardless of rather or not we are willing “chip in” for them.
    Other than that, I believe that justice and free market will in time bring prosperity without the need for tax intervention. 

    Ron Paul = end of fractional banking; end of the fed; small government; and hopefully justice… 

  • ChristianHypocrite

    Nice try at ad hominem.  “Why, he’s simply crazy for saying such-and-such!”  Yet the opinionated ‘journalist’ doesn’t even attempt a logical counter-argument. 

    Ron Paul has a valid point, it would be wise to listen to his criticism.  Better a man who questions things than accepts them blindly, like the current leadership.

    • Redacted

      Ron Paul and his supporters should be shot.

      • NotAmused

        I want all of the troops to be brought home asap…and for that, I should be shot?

        I want to see the so-called “patriot” act eliminated…and for that, I should be shot?

        I want the “war on drugs” to end and to see legalization across the board…and for that, I should be shot?

        Fuck you, dude. 

        • Redacted

          You should be executed. Did I not make myself clear? Do you not know how to read? I want you dead. I want your family dead. I want everyone who ever knew you dead.

          You know why? Its a special kind of ignorance that makes a Libertarian. The only way to combat it is to erase it.

          Go suck off Ayn Rand some more, but it will not save you.

          • WhoGoesThere

            You sir, are fucked in the head. And not the good kind you might be thinking of.

            Can you intelligently explain what lead you to these thoughts of yours? 

            And who is Ayn Rand?

          • Redacted

            Die.

        • Anarchy Pony

          Do you also want all regulations on corporate industrialism revoked? And are hoping for the implementation of supreme property rights leading to eventual corporate fiefdoms?  

  • ChristianHypocrite

    Nice try at ad hominem.  “Why, he’s simply crazy for saying such-and-such!”  Yet the opinionated ‘journalist’ doesn’t even attempt a logical counter-argument. 

    Ron Paul has a valid point, it would be wise to listen to his criticism.  Better a man who questions things than accepts them blindly, like the current leadership.

  • ChristianHypocrite

    At least there’s fruit.

  • Nunzio X

    But on the other hand, they say “You are what you eat.” So no fruit or shit for me, thank you.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EAPUJHWIYQJWKN7HUCSCVHKVTQ David Meadows

    Most FEMA leaders have had no prior emergency management experience whatsoever. 

  • DeepCough

    Look, let’s be real: Ron Paul would make a great treasury secretary, because he’s genuinely conservative, hell, I’d make him head of the GAO for that matter, but I would NEVER make him a chief administrator because he does not want to administrate anything. Americans need to elect officials who know what they’re doing, are capable of doing what their office demands with the most impeccable competence, and are accountable for their fuck-ups, as opposed to voting for people who won’t do shit (Republicans) and people who can’t do shit (Democrats).

  • DeepCough

    Look, let’s be real: Ron Paul would make a great treasury secretary, because he’s genuinely conservative, hell, I’d make him head of the GAO for that matter, but I would NEVER make him a chief administrator because he does not want to administrate anything. Americans need to elect officials who know what they’re doing, are capable of doing what their office demands with the most impeccable competence, and are accountable for their fuck-ups, as opposed to voting for people who won’t do shit (Republicans) and people who can’t do shit (Democrats).

  • FREEDOM

    WOW who ever wrote this is a either a moron or a propagandist. Athenaclark is right and these people are twisting Ron Pauls words not a shock they don’t show you a clip of him speaking in either article.

  • FREEDOM

    WOW who ever wrote this is a either a moron or a propagandist. Athenaclark is right and these people are twisting Ron Pauls words not a shock they don’t show you a clip of him speaking in either article.

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    OMG !!!  One party is trying to save us, only to be constantly stymied by that other, evil party!

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    OMG !!!  One party is trying to save us, only to be constantly stymied by that other, evil party

  • Anarchy Pony

    Love all the paul tards that dwell on the intertubes. Mention him and they just explode out of the cyberwork.

  • Wanooski

    Love all the paul tards that dwell on the intertubes. Mention him and they just explode out of the cyberwork.

  • Simiantongue

    Hmm… I forget, is Paul the good cop or bad cop?

  • Simiantongue

    Hmm… I forget, is Paul the good cop or bad cop?

  • Anonymous

    Random capitalization of words. Classic signal of an old person.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul and his supporters should be shot.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul = return to feudalism

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    People feel (or at least used to) that they have at least a little control over their own states policies. Also, the advantage to the state system in the United STATES is that the STATES are responsible to take care of themselves. Variable approaches can be tried, and the states that have the best system when it gets down to it, can be mimiced by other states. Its actually an impressive, effectively scientific approach when you actually allow it to work like it was originally intended…

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    Damn old people… reading the constitution, and trying to tell us young’uns what to do

  • ARonPaulSupporter

    That’s simply retarded. Every counter argument people are making about Ron Paul is either false, or twisted in some way. He is our best hope of getting this country back on track. His personal views on many controversial things are just that, “personal views.” He is going to limit government and allow the states to make there own decisions in regards to controversial issues. (U know, the way it should be!) You need not fear his christian values or views about abortion, they will not affect you! 

    We come out of the wood work to comment because people are mislead.

  • NotAmused

    I want all of the troops to be brought home asap…and for that, I should be shot?

    I want to see the so-called “patriot” act eliminated…and for that, I should be shot?

    I want the “war on drugs” to end and to see legalization across the board…and for that, I should be shot?

    Fuck you, dude. 

  • YOU

    RONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAUL!!!!!!!!

  • YOU

    RONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAULRONPAUL!!!!!!!!

    • Anarchy Pony

      Is a corporacratic, white supremecist, wingnut Xtian reconstructionist. 

  • Anonymous

    I think mass executions will do the job much better.

  • Anonymous

    You should be executed. Did I not make myself clear? Do you not know how to read?

  • WhoGoesThere

    You sir, are fucked in the head. And not the good kind you might be thinking of.

    Can you intelligently explain what lead you to these thoughts of yours? 

    And who is Ayn Rand?

  • BenBernake

    SuddenlySpam = Crazy lunatic 

  • Wanooski

    Do you also want all regulations on corporate industrialism revoked? And are hoping for the implementation of supreme property rights leading to eventual corporate fiefdoms?  

  • Wanooski

    Is a corporacratic, white supremecist, wingnut Xtian reconstructionist. 

  • Anonymous

    Die.

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