The Truth About The National Debt

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  1. If Obama and the other Dems had an ounce of fight in them, or a testicle in the bunch, they’d be hammering this message constantly: The Republicans are rich cunts who want to enslave you—and here’s the evidence, folks!

    Instead they behave like a bunch of pussies in a back-alley streetfight who think they can “reason” with thugs, instead of doing the right thing, which is the figurative equivilent of wrapping a goddamed piece of re-bar around the head of the nearest guy available, and continuing on down the line until the opposition is moaning and bleeding and wondering what the fuck hit them.

    No wonder they’re getting the shit kicked out of them by the Conserv-o-tards.

    I have no respect for bullies (Republicans) and even less for pussies who don’t fight back against bullies (Democrats.)

  2. If Obama and the other Dems had an ounce of fight in them, or a testicle in the bunch, they’d be hammering this message constantly: The Republicans are rich cunts who want to enslave you—and here’s the evidence, folks!

    Instead they behave like a bunch of pussies in a back-alley streetfight who think they can “reason” with thugs, instead of doing the right thing, which is the figurative equivilent of wrapping a goddamed piece of re-bar around the head of the nearest guy available, and continuing on down the line until the opposition is moaning and bleeding and wondering what the fuck hit them.

    No wonder they’re getting the shit kicked out of them by the Conserv-o-tards.

    I have no respect for bullies (Republicans) and even less for pussies who don’t fight back against bullies (Democrats.)

    • MoralDrift | Sep 29, 2011 at 4:38 pm |

      did you ever wonder if it isn’t planned this way? the well-meaning pussies to appeal to the intellectuals and bleeding hearts and the batshit crazy but strong and likeable loons to satiate the ignorant and easily riled.

      • Anarchy Pony | Sep 29, 2011 at 7:37 pm |

        And the one group pushes stuff that is batshit insane while the other pushes stuff that is really undesirable but seems reasonable by comparison.

  3. Now do it by Congress.

  4. Now do it by Congress.

  5. This chart is wrong in so many ways.

  6. This chart is wrong in so many ways.

    • Micho_rizo88 | Sep 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm |

      Only for Obama. I wouldn’t say it’s wayyyyy off. It was pretty close to the actualities for those not named Obama.

  7. Anonymous | Sep 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm |

    did you ever wonder if it isn’t planned this way? the well-meaning pussies to appeal to the intellectuals and bleeding hearts and the batshit crazy but strong and likeable loons to satiate the ignorant and easily riled.

  8. Mysophobe | Sep 29, 2011 at 9:03 pm |

    Reagan’s the clear winner when judged by percentage increase, but to be fair he almost tripled what was a much smaller initial national debt. Dubya did most of the heavy lifting in absolute dollars, doubling a much larger debt. I’m giving the win to the decider so far. Obama better start making it rain up in here if he hopes to compete.

  9. Mysophobe | Sep 29, 2011 at 5:03 pm |

    Reagan’s the clear winner when judged by percentage increase, but to be fair he almost tripled what was a much smaller initial national debt. Dubya did most of the heavy lifting in absolute dollars, doubling a much larger debt. I’m giving the win to the decider so far. Obama better start making it rain up in here if he hopes to compete.

  10. Anonymous | Sep 29, 2011 at 9:14 pm |

    Alright, but to be honest, the last 10 times we lowered taxes and increased spending may have been flukes. Let’s try that again and see what happens to the debt, I bet it goes down if we pray enough.

  11. Alright, but to be honest, the last 10 times we lowered taxes and increased spending may have been flukes. Let’s try that again and see what happens to the debt, I bet it goes down if we pray enough.

  12. Seriously, who made up this BS and based on what? According to the US Congressional Budget office, Clinton spent -9% of GDP and Bush Jr. spent 20% in his second term, less than Reagan. Looks like Disinfo.com is full of Disinfo.

  13. Seriously, who made up this BS and based on what? According to the US Congressional Budget office, Clinton spent -9% of GDP and Bush Jr. spent 20% in his second term, less than Reagan. Looks like Disinfo.com is full of Disinfo.

  14. Littlecaymandiver | Sep 29, 2011 at 10:40 pm |

    Come on….. I expect so much more than a Fox News level professionalism or lack thereof when I come to this site….. guess I’m naive…… this chart was proven to be bullshit months ago and has been again today because of morons recirculating it.  Is there anybody there who’s capable of doing even a casual Google search??

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-bogus-chart-on-obama-and-the-debt-gets-a-new-lease-on-life/2011/09/28/gIQAx40Y6K_blog.html#pagebreak

  15. Littlecaymandiver | Sep 29, 2011 at 6:40 pm |

    Come on….. I expect so much more than a Fox News level professionalism or lack thereof when I come to this site….. guess I’m naive…… this chart was proven to be bullshit months ago and has been again today because of morons recirculating it.  Is there anybody there who’s capable of doing even a casual Google search??

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-bogus-chart-on-obama-and-the-debt-gets-a-new-lease-on-life/2011/09/28/gIQAx40Y6K_blog.html#pagebreak

  16. Neil Alive | Sep 29, 2011 at 10:45 pm |

    I have to agree with the complaints below (or above or however this works out). I expect more from Disinformation than a rehash of a chart that has been plastered all over social media, when just a Google check away you could find that it has been discredited.

  17. Neil Alive | Sep 29, 2011 at 6:45 pm |

    I have to agree with the complaints below (or above or however this works out). I expect more from Disinformation than a rehash of a chart that has been plastered all over social media, when just a Google check away you could find that it has been discredited.

    • Simiantongue | Sep 29, 2011 at 7:21 pm |

      It’s my impression Neil that people post things of this sort on Disinfo so WE can do just that, sort it out, talk about it. If there is a problem you are aware of with the chart then post it. If you think the chart is correct then post why you think that too. I’m not aware of any restrictions about that except try and keep it civil. What you’re suggesting is that some subject shouldn’t be spoken about at all because it was debunked somewhere else. Wha wha whaaaat? In my opinion that makes it more interesting to talk about. Hey look, it’s a pretty sharp crowd here, we can handle a little discussion about this “disinformation”.

  18. Azwashman | Sep 29, 2011 at 10:47 pm |

    If you want to know if this is accurate or not use basic math. With 2 years of Obama spend at a 1.5 Trillion deficit per year the comes to 3 Trillion. When Bush left if you include his 08 budget the deficit was 11 trillion. Now 10% of 11 Trillion is 1.1 Trillion. So that means Obama is more 27% not 16%. Because they are talking about the % not the dollars that Obama has added to the deficit.

  19. Azwashman | Sep 29, 2011 at 6:47 pm |

    If you want to know if this is accurate or not use basic math. With 2 years of Obama spend at a 1.5 Trillion deficit per year the comes to 3 Trillion. When Bush left if you include his 08 budget the deficit was 11 trillion. Now 10% of 11 Trillion is 1.1 Trillion. So that means Obama is more 27% not 16%. Because they are talking about the % not the dollars that Obama has added to the deficit.

  20. Ahh, playing with percentages. Let’s see 100% of $100. = 1% of $10,000. 

  21. Ahh, playing with percentages. Let’s see 100% of $100. = 1% of $10,000. 

  22. Simiantongue | Sep 29, 2011 at 11:21 pm |

    It’s my impression Neil that people post things of this sort on Disinfo so WE can do just that, sort it out, talk about it. If there is a problem you are aware of with the chart then post it. If you think the chart is correct then post why you think that too. I’m not aware of any restrictions about that except try and keep it civil. What you’re suggesting is that some subject shouldn’t be spoken about at all because it was debunked somewhere else. Wha wha whaaaat? In my opinion that makes it more interesting to talk about. Hey look, it’s a pretty sharp crowd here, we can handle a little discussion about this “disinformation”.

  23. Anonymous | Sep 29, 2011 at 11:35 pm |

    That’s Rick Perry’s plan.

  24. Anonymous | Sep 29, 2011 at 11:37 pm |

    And the one group pushes stuff that is batshit insane while the other pushes stuff that is really undesirable but seems reasonable by comparison.

  25. Good point!

  26. Source: Treasury Department ….. yea, that’s a reliable unbiased source. *rolls eyes* look at the dollars not the %.

  27. Source: Treasury Department ….. yea, that’s a reliable unbiased source. *rolls eyes* look at the dollars not the %.

  28. Research research research. Number are not facts: http://potusnews.net/uncategorized/a-bogus-chart-on-obama-and-the-debt-gets-a-new-lease-on-life/

  29. Research research research. Number are not facts: http://potusnews.net/uncategorized/a-bogus-chart-on-obama-and-the-debt-gets-a-new-lease-on-life/

  30. SomeProle | Sep 30, 2011 at 2:50 am |

    I doubt the president is even that influential in deciding how much gets spent. No one ever looks a the FED and the revolving doors at its entrance. The office of the President is a puppet, a shiny distraction to fool the dumb massed who instincively peg the blame/praise on the pseudo-alpha primate in charge. When has a president in recent history told the FED or Wallstreet ‘NO!”?…..

    The money party elects the Republicrats, not the masses.

  31. SomeProle | Sep 29, 2011 at 10:50 pm |

    I doubt the president is even that influential in deciding how much gets spent. No one ever looks a the FED and the revolving doors at its entrance. The office of the President is a puppet, a shiny distraction to fool the dumb massed who instincively peg the blame/praise on the pseudo-alpha primate in charge. When has a president in recent history told the FED or Wallstreet ‘NO!”?…..

    The money party elects the Republicrats, not the masses.

  32. DeepCough | Sep 30, 2011 at 8:21 am |

    That’s what you get with a two-party system.

  33. mediawhit | Sep 30, 2011 at 2:20 pm |

    It’s bogus: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-bogus-chart-on-obama-and-the-debt-gets-a-new-lease-on-life/2011/09/28/gIQAx40Y6K_blog.html

  34. mediawhit | Sep 30, 2011 at 10:20 am |

    It’s bogus: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/a-bogus-chart-on-obama-and-the-debt-gets-a-new-lease-on-life/2011/09/28/gIQAx40Y6K_blog.html

  35. mediawhit | Sep 30, 2011 at 2:22 pm |

    Senior editor not checking the facts – c’mon disinfo!

  36. mediawhit | Sep 30, 2011 at 10:22 am |

    Senior editor not checking the facts – c’mon disinfo!

  37. Micho_rizo88 | Sep 30, 2011 at 5:27 pm |

    Only for Obama. I wouldn’t say it’s wayyyyy off. It was pretty close to the actualities for those not named Obama.

  38. TurkeyFarmer | Sep 30, 2011 at 5:41 pm |

    POPQUIZ:  Who owns the federal reserve bank?

    Even if no one answers I will return with the answer before this story goes off this site.

  39. TurkeyFarmer | Sep 30, 2011 at 1:41 pm |

    POPQUIZ:  Who owns the federal reserve bank?

    Even if no one answers I will return with the answer before this story goes off this site.

  40. the guise of running as a fiscally conservative candidate basically allows you to spend buttloads of money when you do get elected, where liberal candidates, when elected, have to remain cautious in order to stay cool with the public.  kinda like how disney gets the jonas brothers to tout abstinence so it can sell its music and tv shows with tons of sex appeal for all the little youngins

  41. the guise of running as a fiscally conservative candidate basically allows you to spend buttloads of money when you do get elected, where liberal candidates, when elected, have to remain cautious in order to stay cool with the public.  kinda like how disney gets the jonas brothers to tout abstinence so it can sell its music and tv shows with tons of sex appeal for all the little youngins

  42. The president doesn’t control the money, that is the job of the congress. Guess who has run the congress for most of the last 60 years…

  43. The president doesn’t control the money, that is the job of the congress. Guess who has run the congress for most of the last 60 years…

  44. you are all stupid to think it has anything to do with red or blue. theyre all friends fucking you in the ass. the debt increased the same amount under bush as Obama. None of them care about you. theyre is no fucking teams here. While you all fight back and forth about which team is better (red or blue) theyre laugh at how stupid and gullible you are as they both take your money. 

  45. you are all stupid to think it has anything to do with red or blue. theyre all friends fucking you in the ass. the debt increased the same amount under bush as Obama. None of them care about you. theyre is no fucking teams here. While you all fight back and forth about which team is better (red or blue) theyre laugh at how stupid and gullible you are as they both take your money. 

  46. you are all stupid to think it has anything to do with red or blue. theyre all friends fucking you in the ass. the debt increased the same amount under bush as Obama. None of them care about you. theyre is no fucking teams here. While you all fight back and forth about which team is better (red or blue) theyre laugh at how stupid and gullible you are as they both take your money. 

  47. Fishinggal07 | Oct 2, 2011 at 2:22 pm |

    I don’t think this is true. Can you post a source for your #’s.

  48. Fishinggal07 | Oct 2, 2011 at 10:22 am |

    I don’t think this is true. Can you post a source for your #’s.

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  50. Dvdtruth | Oct 2, 2011 at 7:54 pm |

    Check out the economy section of http://www.dvdtruth.com
    New items added weekly.

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  51. Looks like its been a downhill ride for a while. Check out the economy section of dvdtruth.com

    http://dvdtruth.com/EconomyMoney-C271572.aspx?sid=22750

  52. Dvdtruth | Oct 2, 2011 at 8:29 pm |

    Looks like its been a downhill ride for a while. Check out the economy section of dvdtruth.com

    http://dvdtruth.com/EconomyMoney-C271572.aspx?sid=22750

  53. HmmmMath | Oct 4, 2011 at 6:35 pm |

    I missed the initial discussion on this, but do any of you know math?  I love graphs like this they are so deceiving and showing you whatever the agenda of the graph “poster” wants you to see.  Ask why are we given the real values?  Why just percents? Well, given the percents above and then using the last increased total as the starting point for the next POTUS these percents will give you the following, if we start with, for example, $10:  Regan would have increased it by $18.9 gving a total of $28.9.  Bush Sr. would have raised this amount by $15.9 giving the total up to $44.8.  Clinton raised it by $16.6 increasing the total to $61.4.  Bush by $70.6 raising the total to $131.9.  Obama raised it by $21.1 giving the total up to $153.1.  Huh?  Math.  Go figure.  Ha! I made a funny!

  54. HmmmMath | Oct 4, 2011 at 2:35 pm |

    I missed the initial discussion on this, but do any of you know math?  I love graphs like this they are so deceiving and showing you whatever the agenda of the graph “poster” wants you to see.  Ask why are we given the real values?  Why just percents? Well, given the percents above and then using the last increased total as the starting point for the next POTUS these percents will give you the following, if we start with, for example, $10:  Regan would have increased it by $18.9 gving a total of $28.9.  Bush Sr. would have raised this amount by $15.9 giving the total up to $44.8.  Clinton raised it by $16.6 increasing the total to $61.4.  Bush by $70.6 raising the total to $131.9.  Obama raised it by $21.1 giving the total up to $153.1.  Huh?  Math.  Go figure.  Ha! I made a funny!

  55. If it hadn’t been so bad we should have put the Republicans back in the White house to clean up their own mess

  56. If it hadn’t been so bad we should have put the Republicans back in the White house to clean up their own mess

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