Where’s the Outrage? Secret Panel Can Put Americans on ‘Kill List’

Kill BillFunny, how Obama supporters aren’t going batshit over this when this is the very sort of thing that got them worked up during the Bush administration … Mark Hosenball reported in Reuters:

American militants like Anwar al-Awlaki are placed on a kill or capture list by a secretive panel of senior government officials, which then informs the president of its decisions, according to officials.

There is no public record of the operations or decisions of the panel, which is a subset of the White House’s National Security Council, several current and former officials said. Neither is there any law establishing its existence or setting out the rules by which it is supposed to operate.

The panel was behind the decision to add Awlaki, a U.S.-born militant preacher with alleged al Qaeda connections, to the target list. He was killed by a CIA drone strike in Yemen late last month.

The role of the president in ordering or ratifying a decision to target a citizen is fuzzy. White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined to discuss anything about the process.

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  • Andrew

    I’ll vote for whoever promises not to kill me.

  • Andrew

    I’ll vote for whoever promises not to kill me.

  • Mamagriff50

    If this panel does exist then there is no reason for the miranda rights, or innocent until proven guilty. So how about it…Don’t piss me off, because I will be your judge and jury. Guaranteed you WILL lose.     ….      You cannot make rules and bend them when you see fit.

  • Mamagriff50

    If this panel does exist then there is no reason for the miranda rights, or innocent until proven guilty. So how about it…Don’t piss me off, because I will be your judge and jury. Guaranteed you WILL lose.     ….      You cannot make rules and bend them when you see fit.

  • Mamagriff50

    If this panel does exist then there is no reason for the miranda rights, or innocent until proven guilty. So how about it…Don’t piss me off, because I will be your judge and jury. Guaranteed you WILL lose.     ….      You cannot make rules and bend them when you see fit.

  • Anonymous

    Umm…There’s alot of Obama supporters that ARE going apeshit over this. This is the kind of bullshit that’s going to lose him the election. I voted for Obama the first time around, secure in the knowledge that he’d be better than Bush, and a damn sight better than Palin/McCain. After seeing his performance on this and other issues, I’m disappointed, and I cannot in good conscience vote for him again.

  • Anonymous

    Umm…There’s alot of Obama supporters that ARE going apeshit over this. This is the kind of bullshit that’s going to lose him the election. I voted for Obama the first time around, secure in the knowledge that he’d be better than Bush, and a damn sight better than Palin/McCain. After seeing his performance on this and other issues, I’m disappointed, and I cannot in good conscience vote for him again.

  • Artor

    Umm…There’s alot of Obama supporters that ARE going apeshit over this. This is the kind of bullshit that’s going to lose him the election. I voted for Obama the first time around, secure in the knowledge that he’d be better than Bush, and a damn sight better than Palin/McCain. After seeing his performance on this and other issues, I’m disappointed, and I cannot in good conscience vote for him again.

    • Andrew

      Now imagine a Republican president with this power.

      • Anarchy Pony

        We have one.

        • OilyBomber

          Thank you!!! 

        • Andrew

          I’m sorry, you’re right.  Imagine a Christofascist like Perry or Bachmann or Cain with this power!

          • Anarchy Pony

            If they got real support behind them, then we will be living in a dystopian fiction novel.

      • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

        This was already done by Shrub, and in Yeman too, I think.

        I bitched about it then too.

    • BS

      *psst* they’re all the same. it’s an act.  the smartest thing anybody could do is not vote, ever, period.  whoever is going to be elected will be elected anyway.. it’s all a game to keep you arguing within the system.. picking republican or democrat you’re playing the game.. you’re playing the game by getting mad at obama..  it’s called SUBVERSION.  anybody here who really thinks obama won’t get re-elected is naive.. and the whole ron paul thing is just something to still, again, keep people playing the game.. to keep you interested, just when you think you’ve tried everything you can within the system.. don’t be a moron.

  • Wanooski

    So… there are death panels…

    Or at least one death panel.

  • Anarchy Pony

    So… there are death panels…

    Or at least one death panel.

    • DeepCough

      Hey, Teabaggers, where’s your outrage now, huh?!

  • Andrew

    Now imagine a Republican president with this power.

  • Wanooski

    We have one.

  • OilyBomber

    Thank you!!! 

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    This will end when a group of citizens gets together and draws up their own target list.

    Won’t take too many high profile “Targeted Terminations” before they’ll be rolling this whole idea back.

    A couple of decades of public complacency has given the elites a (false) feeling of security. That will have to be shattered.

    They’re not fools though. There’s probably a reason they’re taking a good hard look at the trained killers being rotated home from these wars of empire we’re fighting.

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    This will end when a group of citizens gets together and draws up their own target list.

    Won’t take too many high profile “Targeted Terminations” before they’ll be rolling this whole idea back.

    A couple of decades of public complacency has given the elites a (false) feeling of security. That will have to be shattered.

    They’re not fools though. There’s probably a reason they’re taking a good hard look at the trained killers being rotated home from these wars of empire we’re fighting.

    Whether it’s the Supreme Tribunal of Venice or the Star Chamber of England, this kind of activity seems to perpetually arise.

    It’ll be interesting to see how it stands up to modern technology.

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    This was already done by Shrub, and in Yeman too, I think.

    I bitched about it then too.

  • iPINCH

    bunch of old doods trying to feel important

  • iPINCH

    bunch of old doods trying to feel important

  • Anonymous

    Reminds me of the tactics of the Mob. Hit lists. Protection rackets. Hidden interests. Disgusting.
    I just can’t figure out who the good guys are. 

  • GoodDoktorBad

    Reminds me of the tactics of the Mob. Hit lists. Protection rackets. Hidden interests. Disgusting.
    I just can’t figure out who the good guys are. 

    • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

      There are no good guys really, but my side has cookies.

      You like cookies don’t you?

      • GoodDoktorBad

        Mmmmmmm….Cookies!!

        I will follow you oh great cookie maker!

      • DeepCough

        Only if they’re “special cookies.”

        • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

          The “Baker” seems to be currently working his way through Tihkal, so yeah, they’re pretty special cookies.

    • Anarchy Pony

      State governments, mobs, crime syndicates, what’s the difference? Really not that much.

      • GoodDoktorBad

        Agreed

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    There are no good guys really, but my side has cookies.

    You like cookies don’t you?

  • Anonymous

    Mmmmmmm….Cookies!!

    I will follow you oh great cookie maker!

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Where’s the outrage; its coming to a street near you.

    Before there was Der Homeland of the Secure, there was the United States of America and it had a Bill of Rights. This is what Americans used to fight and die for; now they die for Halliburton’s balance sheet.

    Fifth Amendment
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, … nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    Sixth Amendment
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed… and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

  • BuzzCoastin

    Where’s the outrage; its coming to a street near you.

    Before there was Der Homeland of the Secure, there was the United States of America and it had a Bill of Rights. This is what Americans used to fight and die for; now they die for Halliburton’s balance sheet.

    Fifth Amendment
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, … nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    Sixth Amendment
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed… and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

  • Sharronrox

    Ron Paul 2012!!

  • Sharronrox

    Ron Paul 2012!!

    • Anarchy Pony

      A recipe for future disaster!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1067356059 Dave James

    Amerika you make Stalin proud

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1067356059 Dave James

    Amerika you make Stalin proud

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1067356059 Dave James

    Amerika you make Stalin proud

  • Igutierslcc

    lead, follow or get out of the way. Look out for you and your own- keep your head down and maybe just maybe you’ll come out unscathed.

  • Igutierslcc

    lead, follow or get out of the way. Look out for you and your own- keep your head down and maybe just maybe you’ll come out unscathed.

  • Slipped on Ice

    Why do governments think its ok to take money from the people and then do secret hidden things with it behind their backs? Its time for the apes to rise, or any other animal for that matter, because we obviously don’t know what we are doing. Maybe squirrels can teach us how to live.

  • Slipped on Ice

    Why do governments think its ok to take money from the people and then do secret hidden things with it behind their backs? Its time for the apes to rise, or any other animal for that matter, because we obviously don’t know what we are doing. Maybe squirrels can teach us how to live.

  • No345

    The Nazis won WW2, just as the terrorist’s accomplished their mission…it’s a shame that all those good Americans died for nothing. We ended up with the same result, a fascist dictatorship where the rule of law and moral responsibility are only for the sheep while the slave-masters live it up. Hope you like living in the USSA.

  • No345

    The Nazis won WW2, just as the terrorist’s accomplished their mission…it’s a shame that all those good Americans died for nothing. We ended up with the same result, a fascist dictatorship where the rule of law and moral responsibility are only for the sheep while the slave-masters live it up. Hope you like living in the USSA.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Thompson/699244822 Steven Thompson

    Vague and short story is vague and short.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Thompson/699244822 Steven Thompson

    Vague and short story is vague and short.

  • DeepCough

    Hey, Teabaggers, where’s your outrage now, huh?!

  • DeepCough

    Only if they’re “special cookies.”

  • http://www.ContraControl.com/ Zenc

    The “Baker” seems to be currently working his way through Tihkal, so yeah, they’re pretty special cookies.

  • Wanooski

    A recipe for future disaster!

  • Wanooski

    State governments, mobs, crime syndicates, what’s the difference? Really not that much.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed

  • Andrew

    I’m sorry, you’re right.  Imagine a Christofascist like Perry or Bachmann or Cain with this power!

  • Wanooski

    If they got real support behind them, then we will be living in a dystopian fiction novel.

  • BS

    *psst* they’re all the same. it’s an act.  the smartest thing anybody could do is not vote, ever, period.  whoever is going to be elected will be elected anyway.. it’s all a game to keep you arguing within the system.. picking republican or democrat you’re playing the game.. you’re playing the game by getting mad at obama..  it’s called SUBVERSION.  anybody here who really thinks obama won’t get re-elected is naive.. and the whole ron paul thing is just something to still, again, keep people playing the game.. to keep you interested, just when you think you’ve tried everything you can within the system.. don’t be a moron.