Defense Bill Would Make America A Battlefield

Indefinite DetentionSections inside the Defense Authorization Act, which Congress passes each year to authorize expenditures for the Department of Defense, contain vague and troubling language that could allow for the indefinite detention of American citizens. Via the ACLU:

The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.

The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing.

In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”

Read more at the ACLU’s Blog of Rights

111 Comments on "Defense Bill Would Make America A Battlefield"

  1. Mr Willow | Nov 27, 2011 at 7:11 am |

    Enter the Gestapo. 

  2. Mr Willow | Nov 27, 2011 at 3:11 am |

    Enter the Gestapo. 

    • Calypso_1 | Nov 27, 2011 at 9:58 am |

      all those troops coming home need something to do

      • FusionSaint | Nov 27, 2011 at 12:24 pm |

        That would be the Freikorp not the Gestapo!

        • Calypso_1 | Nov 27, 2011 at 12:50 pm |

          : ) Aye, interesting dynamic that.  SA -> ‘pathological enemies of the state’ .  It will be interesting to see how the federales and der homelanders deal with the incoming oath keepers and III%’s.

          • Yeah, I’m warming up the popcorn popper, even as we speak.

          • Anarchy Pony | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:02 pm |

            If you mix packing peanuts into gasoline it makes it sticky and gooey, and a much more effective fuel for molotovs.

          • FusionSaint | Nov 27, 2011 at 1:04 pm |

            Anyone who doesn’t see the Fascist element coming up in the United States is blind. The Patriot act was the first giant leap. The second is the cutting of veterans benefits. The Third is the high unemployment rate among Veterans. The Fourth is this bill. That’s fascism my friends.  

          • i think it was happening long before that hell you country was quite friendly with Nazi Germany before the outbreak of war i believe it was called the eugenics movement were white skin is good and crime is hereditary

          • Anarchy Pony | Nov 28, 2011 at 2:43 am |

            Fascism is a nice market solution to social problems. That’s why it is always popular among the business and industry elite.

        • Mr Willow | Nov 27, 2011 at 4:57 pm |

          From the sound of things, it’s a merger or hybrid of the two, more comparable to the SS—considering especially the SS controlled the Gestapo—in size and authority. And since everything’s in secret, they can just deny both the organisation itself, and any (potential) future actions they take, they could even go so far as denying the existence of individuals they detain. 

          It’s like they’re proposing putting a police badge on the members of Seal Team 6—and expanding their membership.

      • ORLY?

  3. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 1:58 pm |

    all those troops coming home need something to do

  4. Use of the military to control their own country’s population = fascism / totalitarianism.

    Is everyone ready for an exciting new life? Hmmmmm?

  5. Use of the military to control their own country’s population = fascism / totalitarianism.

    Is everyone ready for an exciting new life? Hmmmmm?

    • Anarchy Pony | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:02 pm |

      That’s why I like to live out in the hinterlands. Less imperial presence out here.

  6. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 4:09 pm |

    Isn’t it nice to know that WE are now the Evil Empire? It makes me wonder what will happen when the rest of the world rises up against us.

  7. Isn’t it nice to know that WE are now the Evil Empire? It makes me wonder what will happen when the rest of the world rises up against us.

  8. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 4:24 pm |

    That would be the Freikorp not the Gestapo!

  9. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 4:25 pm |

    That’s the fun part, they won’t. 

  10. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 4:50 pm |

    : ) Aye, interesting dynamic that.  SA -> ‘pathological enemies of the state’ .  It will be interesting to see how the federales and der homelanders deal with the incoming oath keepers and III%’s.

  11. Yeah, I’m warming up the popcorn popper, even as we speak.

  12. Yeah, I’m warming up the popcorn popper, even as we speak.

  13. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:04 pm |

    Anyone who doesn’t see the Fascist element coming up in the United States is blind. The Patriot act was the first giant leap. The second is the cutting of veterans benefits. The Third is the high unemployment rate among Veterans. The Fourth is this bill. That’s fascism my friends.  

  14. “We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character,
    ruthless in purpose and insidious in method…” “we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted
    influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial
    complex.”  “the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power
    exists and will persist”
    -Eisenhower, President & 5 star General
    of the Army.

  15. “We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character,
    ruthless in purpose and insidious in method…” “we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted
    influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial
    complex.”  “the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power
    exists and will persist”
    -Eisenhower, President & 5 star General
    of the Army.

  16. “We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character,
    ruthless in purpose and insidious in method…” “we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted
    influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial
    complex.”  “the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power
    exists and will persist”
    -Eisenhower, President & 5 star General
    of the Army.

  17. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:25 pm |

    ORLY?

  18. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:25 pm |

    ORLY?

  19. truth hurts | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:30 pm |

    throughout history, every army was eventually turned on its own citizens…because you can always hire half the poor to kill the other half…

  20. truth hurts | Nov 27, 2011 at 1:30 pm |

    throughout history, every army was eventually turned on its own citizens…because you can always hire half the poor to kill the other half…

  21. I wonder if that headline is an intentional double entendre or an accidental one? 

  22. I wonder if that headline is an intentional double entendre or an accidental one? 

  23. They won’t have to.

  24. half full | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:44 pm |

    Look at the bright side, free overseas vacations.

  25. half full | Nov 27, 2011 at 1:44 pm |

    Look at the bright side, free overseas vacations.

  26. Ouroboros will eat is own tail and keep chomping down

    • page 362

      (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The require- ment to detain a person in military custody under  this section does not extend to citizens of the United  States. 

      there’s more to this agenda than meets the eye..dig people..

      • Calypso_1 | Nov 27, 2011 at 8:40 pm |

        I’m with you, just read the entire bill and I’m not seeing what the ACLU is claiming.  Udall’s Amendment http://www.scribd.com/doc/73053672/Udall-Amendment-to-National-Defense-Authorization-Act-Revising-detainee-provisions  is far more vague.  It removes the exclusionary statement about US citizens entirely. 

      • If this makes it easier you can hear it straight from them… http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/600840428

        From Senator Graham (a supporter):”So in summary here, 1032, the Military Custody Provision, which has waivers and a lot of flexibility, doesn’t apply to American citizens: 1031, the Statement of Authority to Detain does apply to American citizens and it designates the worlds as the battlefield, including the Homeland.”
        He goes on to illustrate his point through the mention of the Padilla case and punctuates with, “[When] you become a Military threat, [your] citizenship is not a sort of ‘get-out-of-jail-free-card'”…

        My 70y/o mother ALREADY gets fingernails clippers and those flimsy-ass bamboo knitting needles confiscated at the airport, this just makes it easier for them to lock her up.. “you’re coming with us Gramdma; no one can help you and they won’t know where to find you to try”… Next in line? “Papers please…”

      • terrible teens | Dec 20, 2011 at 4:43 pm |

        “requirement” is the operative word.

  27. page 362

    (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The require- ment to detain a person in military custody under  this section does not extend to citizens of the United  States. 

    there’s more to this agenda than meets the eye..dig people..

  28. Mr Willow | Nov 27, 2011 at 8:57 pm |

    From the look of things, it’s a merger of the two, more near to the SS—considering especially the SS controlled the Gestapo. And since everything’s in secret, they can just deny both the organisation itself, and any (potential) future actions they take, they could even go so far as denying the existence of individuals they detain. 

    It’s like putting a police badge on Seal Team 6.

  29. Anarchy Pony | Nov 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm |

    If you mix packing peanuts into gasoline it makes it sticky and gooey, and a much more effective fuel for molotovs.

  30. Anarchy Pony | Nov 27, 2011 at 9:02 pm |

    That’s why I like to live out in the hinterlands. Less imperial presence out here.

  31. Miguelalvo | Nov 27, 2011 at 9:27 pm |

    ” … the National Defense Authorization Act bill, was [passed] in a closed-door committe meeting, without even a single hearing.” —- Like Whoa! Is this what’s shaking for 2011?

  32. Miguelalvo | Nov 27, 2011 at 5:27 pm |

    ” … the National Defense Authorization Act bill, was [passed] in a closed-door committe meeting, without even a single hearing.” —- Like Whoa! Is this what’s shaking for 2011?

  33. i think it was happening long before that hell you country was quite friendly with Nazi Germany before the outbreak of war i believe it was called the eugenics movement were white skin is good and crime is hereditary

  34. Anonymous | Nov 27, 2011 at 10:31 pm |

    : ) your’re right.  I’ll go buy a round at the Legion Post.

  35. DeepCough | Nov 27, 2011 at 10:59 pm |

    It will be a hostile takeover not by way of military invasion, but by stock holdings.

  36. R. Rileyt | Nov 28, 2011 at 12:10 am |

    Are You Scheduled For Government Interrogation or
    Detainment Should Senators’ Carl Levin (D-MI) and John McCain (R-AZ) S. 1867 Is
    Passed?

     

    Senators Carl Levin (D-MI) and
    John McCain (R-AZ) recently sponsored S. 1867, the National Defense
    Authorization Act that could detain any U.S. Citizen without due process. How
    might Americans respond should U.S. Government use S. 1867 to take away their
    family members, loved ones and friends on mere suspicion? McCain’s prior bill
    S.3081 had the potential of spawning domestic terrorism in the United States.

     

    McCain’s recently introduced S. 1867 is his second shot at
    getting this fascist legislation passed: On March 4, 2010, Sen. John McCain
    introduced S. 3081 a similar bill, “The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation,
    Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010.” Under McCain’s S.3081 an “individual”
    would need only be “suspected” by Government of “suspicious activity” of
    “supporting hostilities” to be dragged off and held indefinitely in Military
    Custody. U.S. Government would have acquired the power to interrogate and
    detain any individual without probable cause. U.S. Government would only need
    allege—an individual kept in detention was an “Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent”
    (suspected of): having purposefully and materially supported or engaged in
    hostilities in America; against the United States or its coalition partners.
    How could anyone prove to Government, they did not purposely do something? U.S.
    Government could have detained any person or group that spoke out or
    demonstrated disapproval against any agency of U.S. Government.

     

    When you read McCain’s bill, it appeared “suspicion” was
    not even necessary for government to detain or interrogate a U.S. Citizen in
    America. The Bill’s Definition for Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent: (Anyone
    Subject to a Military Commission.)

     

    Similar to fascist laws in other countries, McCain’s
    S.3081 if passed, would have frightened Americans from speaking out. S.3081 was
    so broadly written it appeared any “individual” who dared write on the Internet
    or verbally express an opinion against U.S. Government or its Coalition
    Partners could be detained on the basis he or she was an “unprivileged enemy
    belligerent supporting hostilities.” At least under the Patriot Act, U.S.
    government generally needs probable cause to detain a person indefinitely. The
    passage of McCain’s S.3081 would have allowed government to use (mere
    suspicion) to curtail Americans’ Constitutional Protections against unlawful
    arrest, detention and interrogation—without the benefit of legal counsel and
    trial. Under the Mc Cain bill, U.S. Government was not required to provide
    detained individuals U.S. Miranda Warnings or even an attorney. It was
    foreseeable Americans might go underground to resist a tyrannical U.S.
    Government.

     

    See McCain’s Prior Senate bill S.3081 at the web address
    below: compare McCain’s prior bill to his new bill: S. 1867.

    http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/ARM10090.pdf
    [2]

     

    FYI: below is enclosed a copy of Hitler’s Fascist
    “Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933.” Although the Nazi Decrees
    are worded differently, McCain’s S.3081 had the potential of bringing America
    to the same place, trashing Americans’ free speech and personal liberty. Note
    how the Nazi Laws similar to McCain’s S.3081, in Nazi Section (1) and (4) had
    the power to suspend Germans’ personal liberties and shutdown Free Speech to
    intimidate German Citizens speaking out against the Nazi Government:

     

    From The Nazi Decrees 1933

    See Section 1

     

    “Sections 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124, and 153 of the
    Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. Thus,
    restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion,
    including freedom of the press, on the right of assembly and the right of
    association, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and
    telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for
    confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond
    the legal limits otherwise prescribed.”

     

    Similar to McCain’s S. 3081, but using different wording
    the Nazi Government in Section (4) see below, suspended Constitutional rights;
    could order the arrest of Citizens for any Act that might incite or provoke
    disobedience against state authorities. McCain’s S. 3081 instead mentioned
    detaining and prosecuting Individuals for “supporting hostilities” in America;
    against the United States and or Coalition Partners. S.3081 was so broadly
    written anti-war protesters and Tea Party Groups might be arrested and detained
    just for attending demonstrations, i.e. providing support.

     

    Immediately Below: The Nazi 1933 Decrees Signed By Hitler

     

    1933. ROBL. I 83.

     

    DECREE OF THE REICH
    PRESIDENT FOR THE PROTECTION OF

    THE PEOPLE AND STATE

     

    Note: Based on translations by State Department, National
    Socialism, 1942 PP. 215-17, and Pollak, J.K., and Heneman, H.J., The Hitler
    Decrees, (1934), pp. 10-11.7

     

    In virtue of Section 48 (2) of the German Constitution, the
    following is decreed as a defensive measure against Communist acts of Violence,
    endangering the state:

     

    Section 1

    Sections 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124, and 153 of the
    Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. Thus,
    restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion,
    including freedom of the press, on the right of assembly and the right of
    association, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and
    telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for
    confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond
    the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

     

    Section 2

    If in a state the measures necessary for the restoration
    of public security and order are not taken, the Reich Government may
    temporarily take over the powers of the highest state authority.

     

    Section 4

    Whoever provokes, or appeals for or incites to the
    disobedience of the orders given out by the supreme state authorities or the
    authorities subject to then for the execution of this decree, or the orders
    given by the Reich Government according to Section 2, is punishable—insofar as
    the deed, is not covered by the decree with more severe punishment and with
    imprisonment of not less that one month, or with a fine from 150 up to 15,000
    Reichsmarks.

     

    Who ever endangers human life by violating Section 1, is
    to be punished by sentence to a penitentiary, under mitigating circumstances
    with imprisonment of not less than six months and, when violation causes the
    death of a person, with death, under mitigating circumstances with a penitentiary
    sentence of not less that two years. In addition the sentence my include
    confiscation of property.

     

    Whoever provokes an inciter to or act contrary to public
    welfare is to be punished with a penitentiary sentence, under mitigating
    circumstances, with imprisonment of not less than three months.

     

    Section 5

    The crimes which under the Criminal Code are punishable
    with penitentiary for life are to be punished with death: i.e., in Sections 81
    (high treason), 229 (poisoning), 306 (arson), 311 (explosion), 312 (floods),
    315, paragraph 2 (damage to railroad properties, 324 (general poisoning).

    Insofar as a more severe punishment has not been previously
    provided for, the following are punishable with death or with life imprisonment
    or with imprisonment not to exceed 15 years:

     

    1. Anyone who undertakes to kill the Reich President or a
    member or a commissioner of the Reich Government or of a state government, or
    provokes to such a killing, or agrees to commit it, or accepts such an offer,
    or conspires with another for such a murder;

    2. Anyone who under Section 115 (2) of the Criminal Code
    (serious rioting) or of Section 125 (2) of the Criminal Code (serious
    disturbance of the peace) commits the act with arms or cooperates consciously
    and intentionally with an armed person;

    3. Anyone who commits a kidnapping under Section 239 of the
    Criminal with the intention of making use of the kidnapped person as a hostage
    in the political struggle.

     

    Section 6

    This decree enters in force on the day of its promulgation.

    Reich President                                                                                          
    Reich Chancellor                                                                                       
    Reich Minister of the Interior

    Reich Minister of Justice

     

    Some members in the Obama Government appear bent on
    curtailing Citizens’ rights especially Free Speech and Opinions. In the run up
    to Sen. McCain’s introduced S. 3081, it was reported Top Obama Czar Cass
    Sunstein Proposed Infiltrating all ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ in a paper prepared
    in 2008—that apparently expressed: Government should infiltrate and spy on
    Americans, their groups and organizations to obstruct Free Speech, disrupt the
    exchange of ideas and disseminate false information to neutralize Americans that
    might question government. See news story: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=121884
    [3]

     

  37. R. Rileyt | Nov 27, 2011 at 8:10 pm |

    Are You Scheduled For Government Interrogation or
    Detainment Should Senators’ Carl Levin (D-MI) and John McCain (R-AZ) S. 1867 Is
    Passed?

     

    Senators Carl Levin (D-MI) and
    John McCain (R-AZ) recently sponsored S. 1867, the National Defense
    Authorization Act that could detain any U.S. Citizen without due process. How
    might Americans respond should U.S. Government use S. 1867 to take away their
    family members, loved ones and friends on mere suspicion? McCain’s prior bill
    S.3081 had the potential of spawning domestic terrorism in the United States.

     

    McCain’s recently introduced S. 1867 is his second shot at
    getting this fascist legislation passed: On March 4, 2010, Sen. John McCain
    introduced S. 3081 a similar bill, “The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation,
    Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010.” Under McCain’s S.3081 an “individual”
    would need only be “suspected” by Government of “suspicious activity” of
    “supporting hostilities” to be dragged off and held indefinitely in Military
    Custody. U.S. Government would have acquired the power to interrogate and
    detain any individual without probable cause. U.S. Government would only need
    allege—an individual kept in detention was an “Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent”
    (suspected of): having purposefully and materially supported or engaged in
    hostilities in America; against the United States or its coalition partners.
    How could anyone prove to Government, they did not purposely do something? U.S.
    Government could have detained any person or group that spoke out or
    demonstrated disapproval against any agency of U.S. Government.

     

    When you read McCain’s bill, it appeared “suspicion” was
    not even necessary for government to detain or interrogate a U.S. Citizen in
    America. The Bill’s Definition for Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent: (Anyone
    Subject to a Military Commission.)

     

    Similar to fascist laws in other countries, McCain’s
    S.3081 if passed, would have frightened Americans from speaking out. S.3081 was
    so broadly written it appeared any “individual” who dared write on the Internet
    or verbally express an opinion against U.S. Government or its Coalition
    Partners could be detained on the basis he or she was an “unprivileged enemy
    belligerent supporting hostilities.” At least under the Patriot Act, U.S.
    government generally needs probable cause to detain a person indefinitely. The
    passage of McCain’s S.3081 would have allowed government to use (mere
    suspicion) to curtail Americans’ Constitutional Protections against unlawful
    arrest, detention and interrogation—without the benefit of legal counsel and
    trial. Under the Mc Cain bill, U.S. Government was not required to provide
    detained individuals U.S. Miranda Warnings or even an attorney. It was
    foreseeable Americans might go underground to resist a tyrannical U.S.
    Government.

     

    See McCain’s Prior Senate bill S.3081 at the web address
    below: compare McCain’s prior bill to his new bill: S. 1867.

    http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/ARM10090.pdf
    [2]

     

    FYI: below is enclosed a copy of Hitler’s Fascist
    “Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933.” Although the Nazi Decrees
    are worded differently, McCain’s S.3081 had the potential of bringing America
    to the same place, trashing Americans’ free speech and personal liberty. Note
    how the Nazi Laws similar to McCain’s S.3081, in Nazi Section (1) and (4) had
    the power to suspend Germans’ personal liberties and shutdown Free Speech to
    intimidate German Citizens speaking out against the Nazi Government:

     

    From The Nazi Decrees 1933

    See Section 1

     

    “Sections 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124, and 153 of the
    Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. Thus,
    restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion,
    including freedom of the press, on the right of assembly and the right of
    association, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and
    telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for
    confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond
    the legal limits otherwise prescribed.”

     

    Similar to McCain’s S. 3081, but using different wording
    the Nazi Government in Section (4) see below, suspended Constitutional rights;
    could order the arrest of Citizens for any Act that might incite or provoke
    disobedience against state authorities. McCain’s S. 3081 instead mentioned
    detaining and prosecuting Individuals for “supporting hostilities” in America;
    against the United States and or Coalition Partners. S.3081 was so broadly
    written anti-war protesters and Tea Party Groups might be arrested and detained
    just for attending demonstrations, i.e. providing support.

     

    Immediately Below: The Nazi 1933 Decrees Signed By Hitler

     

    1933. ROBL. I 83.

     

    DECREE OF THE REICH
    PRESIDENT FOR THE PROTECTION OF

    THE PEOPLE AND STATE

     

    Note: Based on translations by State Department, National
    Socialism, 1942 PP. 215-17, and Pollak, J.K., and Heneman, H.J., The Hitler
    Decrees, (1934), pp. 10-11.7

     

    In virtue of Section 48 (2) of the German Constitution, the
    following is decreed as a defensive measure against Communist acts of Violence,
    endangering the state:

     

    Section 1

    Sections 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124, and 153 of the
    Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. Thus,
    restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion,
    including freedom of the press, on the right of assembly and the right of
    association, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and
    telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for
    confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond
    the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

     

    Section 2

    If in a state the measures necessary for the restoration
    of public security and order are not taken, the Reich Government may
    temporarily take over the powers of the highest state authority.

     

    Section 4

    Whoever provokes, or appeals for or incites to the
    disobedience of the orders given out by the supreme state authorities or the
    authorities subject to then for the execution of this decree, or the orders
    given by the Reich Government according to Section 2, is punishable—insofar as
    the deed, is not covered by the decree with more severe punishment and with
    imprisonment of not less that one month, or with a fine from 150 up to 15,000
    Reichsmarks.

     

    Who ever endangers human life by violating Section 1, is
    to be punished by sentence to a penitentiary, under mitigating circumstances
    with imprisonment of not less than six months and, when violation causes the
    death of a person, with death, under mitigating circumstances with a penitentiary
    sentence of not less that two years. In addition the sentence my include
    confiscation of property.

     

    Whoever provokes an inciter to or act contrary to public
    welfare is to be punished with a penitentiary sentence, under mitigating
    circumstances, with imprisonment of not less than three months.

     

    Section 5

    The crimes which under the Criminal Code are punishable
    with penitentiary for life are to be punished with death: i.e., in Sections 81
    (high treason), 229 (poisoning), 306 (arson), 311 (explosion), 312 (floods),
    315, paragraph 2 (damage to railroad properties, 324 (general poisoning).

    Insofar as a more severe punishment has not been previously
    provided for, the following are punishable with death or with life imprisonment
    or with imprisonment not to exceed 15 years:

     

    1. Anyone who undertakes to kill the Reich President or a
    member or a commissioner of the Reich Government or of a state government, or
    provokes to such a killing, or agrees to commit it, or accepts such an offer,
    or conspires with another for such a murder;

    2. Anyone who under Section 115 (2) of the Criminal Code
    (serious rioting) or of Section 125 (2) of the Criminal Code (serious
    disturbance of the peace) commits the act with arms or cooperates consciously
    and intentionally with an armed person;

    3. Anyone who commits a kidnapping under Section 239 of the
    Criminal with the intention of making use of the kidnapped person as a hostage
    in the political struggle.

     

    Section 6

    This decree enters in force on the day of its promulgation.

    Reich President                                                                                          
    Reich Chancellor                                                                                       
    Reich Minister of the Interior

    Reich Minister of Justice

     

    Some members in the Obama Government appear bent on
    curtailing Citizens’ rights especially Free Speech and Opinions. In the run up
    to Sen. McCain’s introduced S. 3081, it was reported Top Obama Czar Cass
    Sunstein Proposed Infiltrating all ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ in a paper prepared
    in 2008—that apparently expressed: Government should infiltrate and spy on
    Americans, their groups and organizations to obstruct Free Speech, disrupt the
    exchange of ideas and disseminate false information to neutralize Americans that
    might question government. See news story: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=121884
    [3]

     

  38. This is just another step in the plan to take away our rights as citizens. When you read legislation like this it’s hard not to believe that there is a conspiracy for a New World order with a one world government. 

  39. This is just another step in the plan to take away our rights as citizens. When you read legislation like this it’s hard not to believe that there is a conspiracy for a New World order with a one world government. 

  40. Anonymous | Nov 28, 2011 at 12:25 am |

    For the benefit of all humanity please learn to use a text editor.

  41. Sabina lokic | Nov 28, 2011 at 12:40 am |

    Cant obama just veto this anyway?

  42. Anonymous | Nov 28, 2011 at 12:40 am |

    I’m with you, just read the entire bill and I’m not seeing what the ACLU is claiming.  Udall’s Amendment http://www.scribd.com/doc/73053672/Udall-Amendment-to-National-Defense-Authorization-Act-Revising-detainee-provisions  is far more vague.  It removes the exclusionary statement about US citizens entirely. 

  43. Sabina lokic | Nov 27, 2011 at 8:40 pm |

    Cant obama just veto this anyway?

    • DeepCough | Nov 27, 2011 at 8:48 pm |

      Even if he did, Congress can overrule him, which means that we’re fucked.

    • You’re assuming he would. He’s on board this train. He’s already signed orders to kill American citizens without trial. Why would he get in the way of this?

    • Jsmnuk2764 | Dec 20, 2011 at 4:15 pm |

      According to White House staff, Obama has yet to receive the bill in its completely final form. He could pocket veto it and kill it, but what are the chances of that? This is a $662 Billion (yeah, that’s a B) defense spending bill.

      This is really bad, people, and we’re getting lulled to sleep with Carole King’s music. She was on both the Today Show and The Talk. I loved King’s music back in my day. I’m beginning to wonder if the Army’s psyops people will have her music playing for people on their way to the FEMA camps.

    • Jsmnuk2764 | Dec 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm |

      test

    • terrible teens | Dec 20, 2011 at 4:19 pm |

      Your comment section has a problem. My e-mail is getting posted instead of my username. Not that I care, but….

  44. DeepCough | Nov 28, 2011 at 12:48 am |

    Even if he did, Congress can overrule him, which means that we’re fucked.

  45. Simiantongue | Nov 28, 2011 at 2:53 am |

    I’m a little short to be a stormtrooper.

  46. Simiantongue | Nov 28, 2011 at 3:02 am |

    So the government is forming up on that front while corporate America employs psyops against American citizens.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fracking-industry-admits-to-employing-military-psychologial-operations-on-american-citizens-2011-11

    Clowns to the left of me Jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you. -Stealers Wheel

  47. Simiantongue | Nov 28, 2011 at 3:02 am |

    So the government is forming up on that front while corporate America employs psyops against American citizens.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fracking-industry-admits-to-employing-military-psychologial-operations-on-american-citizens-2011-11

    Clowns to the left of me Jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you. -Stealers Wheel

  48. Simiantongue | Nov 27, 2011 at 11:02 pm |

    So the government is forming up on that front while corporate America employs psyops against American citizens.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fracking-industry-admits-to-employing-military-psychologial-operations-on-american-citizens-2011-11

    Clowns to the left of me Jokers to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you. -Stealers Wheel

  49. For the benifit of humanity please do not nit-pick in useless ways in order to one-up other people in the web.

  50. Anarchy Pony | Nov 28, 2011 at 6:43 am |

    Fascism is a nice market solution to social problems. That’s why it is always popular among the business and industry elite.

  51. Jin Onikoroshi | Nov 28, 2011 at 8:32 am |

    when has empire ever NOT been evil?

  52. Anonymous | Nov 28, 2011 at 9:32 am |

    cool story bro.

  53. Anonymous | Nov 28, 2011 at 6:00 pm |

    You’re assuming he would. He’s on board this train. He’s already signed orders to kill American citizens without trial. Why would he get in the way of this?

  54. Anarchy Pony | Nov 28, 2011 at 8:42 pm |

    It is the natural path of the state to seek to consolidate as much power as possible.

  55. Anarchy Pony | Nov 28, 2011 at 4:42 pm |

    It is the natural path of the state to seek to consolidate as much power as possible.

  56. Anarchy Pony | Nov 29, 2011 at 4:59 am |

    Will eventually implement a fantasticly innovative form of fascism!

  57. Anarchy Pony | Nov 29, 2011 at 6:10 am |

    The rebellion won’t have a height requirement.

  58. If this makes it easier you can hear it straight from them… http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/600840428

    From Senator Graham (a supporter):”So in summary here, 1032, the Military Custody Provision, which has waivers and a lot of flexibility, doesn’t apply to American citizens: 1031, the Statement of Authority to Detain does apply to American citizens and it designates the worlds as the battlefield, including the Homeland.”
    He goes on to illustrate his point through the mention of the Padilla case and punctuates with, “[When] you become a Military threat, [your] citizenship is not a sort of ‘get-out-of-jail-free-card'”…

    My 70y/o mother ALREADY gets fingernails clippers and those flimsy-ass bamboo knitting needles confiscated at the airport, this just makes it easier for them to lock her up.. “you’re coming with us Gramdma; no one can help you and they won’t know where to find you to try”… Next in line? “Papers please…”

  59. Simiantongue | Dec 1, 2011 at 11:52 pm |

    That’s for me then. Which way to Endor?

  60. Anarchy Pony | Dec 1, 2011 at 11:58 pm |

    First star on the right, and straight on ’til morning.

  61. The us military’s got the money. Remember the 3 trillion that disappeared right before 9/11.  Now all they need is the power of martial law. Load ur guns boys if this law passes it looks like revolution. that is if americans can put the mcdonalds down and get off there lazy fat asses, and see the obvious truth.

  62. The us military’s got the money. Remember the 3 trillion that disappeared right before 9/11.  Now all they need is the power of martial law. Load ur guns boys if this law passes it looks like revolution. that is if americans can put the mcdonalds down and get off there lazy fat asses, and see the obvious truth.

  63. The us military’s got the money. Remember the 3 trillion that disappeared right before 9/11.  Now all they need is the power of martial law. Load ur guns boys if this law passes it looks like revolution. that is if americans can put the mcdonalds down and get off there lazy fat asses, and see the obvious truth.

  64. I hate Obooma but i think i prefer him to McCains old ass.

  65. I hate Obooma but i think i prefer him to McCains old ass.

  66. Jsmnuk2764 | Dec 20, 2011 at 8:15 pm |

    According to White House staff, Obama has yet to receive the bill in its completely final form. He could pocket veto it and kill it, but what are the chances of that? This is a $662 Billion (yeah, that’s a B) defense spending bill.

    This is really bad, people, and we’re getting lulled to sleep with Carole King’s music. She was on both the Today Show and The Talk. I loved King’s music back in my day. I’m beginning to wonder if the Army’s psyops people will have her music playing for people on their way to the FEMA camps.

  67. Jsmnuk2764 | Dec 20, 2011 at 8:16 pm |

    test

  68. terrible teens | Dec 20, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

    Your comment section has a problem. My e-mail is getting posted instead of my username. Not that I care, but….

  69. terrible teens | Dec 20, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

    Your comment section has a problem. My e-mail is getting posted instead of my username. Not that I care, but….

  70. terrible teens | Dec 20, 2011 at 8:19 pm |

    Your comment section has a problem. My e-mail is getting posted instead of my username. Not that I care, but….

  71. terrible teens | Dec 20, 2011 at 8:43 pm |

    “requirement” is the operative word.

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