Frank Miller (Comic Book Legend) Slams the Occupy Movement

Goddamn BatmanWell, he is responsible for the “Goddamn Batman” after all … Says Frank:

Everybody’s been too damn polite about this nonsense:

The “Occupy” movement, whether displaying itself on Wall Street or in the streets of Oakland (which has, with unspeakable cowardice, embraced it) is anything but an exercise of our blessed First Amendment. “Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness. These clowns can do nothing but harm America.

“Occupy” is nothing short of a clumsy, poorly-expressed attempt at anarchy, to the extent that the “movement” – HAH! Some “movement”, except if the word “bowel” is attached – is anything more than an ugly fashion statement by a bunch of iPhone, iPad wielding spoiled brats who should stop getting in the way of working people and find jobs for themselves.

This is no popular uprising. This is garbage. And goodness knows they’re spewing their garbage – both politically and physically – every which way they can find.

Wake up, pond scum. America is at war against a ruthless enemy.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/ronald.g.richard Ronald Gregory Richard

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  • http://www.facebook.com/ronald.g.richard Ronald Gregory Richard

    Wow, what a dick. Must be nice to have time to blog and umm…come up with various fake gadgets and zany costumes instead of actually working.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ronald.g.richard Ronald Gregory Richard

    Wow, what a dick. Must be nice to have time to blog and umm…come up with various fake gadgets and zany costumes instead of actually working.

    • Tinytemper

      Didnt you hear?  It’s work if you get paid.  That’s how it came to be that CEOs work so hard.

      • Andrew

        CEOs don’t work very hard.

        • Jaymalls

          Let me guess… Your a CEO??? STFU Puss

          • http://www.facebook.com/elpolloloco52 Josh Adkisson

            Learn to spell before you venture so far as cussing. It makes you look less like a fifteen year old.

  • Anonymous

    Fascism’s preeminent spokesman in the USA is a little upset that the people are getting uppity. Don’t worry, Frank.  Our betters will not tolerate peaceful camping in public spaces for long- at least not if it is critical of them and the world they have made for us.  Their first attempts to disperse the rabble may have failed, but it was but a first try.  Here, Frank, look at this video-  the looters, thieves and rapists show their cowardice by facing down a phalanx of police with nothing but their voices.  That takes more courage then sending your helots to die in the front battle line, no?

    http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/11/14/david-brin-why-the-occupy-wall-street-kids-are-better-than-the-spartans/d

    And who needs that kind of courage messing up people’s expectations?  Our betters are better simply because they are richer, not because of some kind of moral courage.  Hell, if a lousy hippie has enough moral courage to sit calmly and take a faceful of pepper spray, then normal decent Volk shouldn’t want to have it,  It’s disruptive and gets in the way the ongoing redistribution of wealth and power to the top earners.

  • Anonymous

    Frank, you ARE that ruthless enemy…

  • Anarchaeologist

    Fascism’s preeminent spokesman in the USA is a little upset that the people are getting uppity. Don’t worry, Frank.  Our betters will not tolerate peaceful camping in public spaces for long- at least not if it is critical of them and the world they have made for us.  Their first attempts to disperse the rabble may have failed, but it was but a first try.  Here, Frank, look at this video-  the looters, thieves and rapists show their cowardice by facing down a phalanx of police with nothing but their voices. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJmmnMkuEM&feature=player_embedded#!

    That takes more courage then sending your helots to die in the front battle line, no?

    http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/11/14/david-brin-why-the-occupy-wall-street-kids-are-better-than-the-spartans/

    And who needs that kind of courage messing up people’s expectations?  Our betters are better simply because they are richer, not because of some kind of moral courage.  Hell, if a lousy hippie has enough moral courage to sit calmly and take a faceful of pepper spray, then normal decent Volk shouldn’t want to have it,  It’s disruptive and gets in the way the ongoing redistribution of wealth and power to the top earners.

    • Laerrus

      He’s a comic book writer… Not “Fascism’ preeminent’ spokesman”… Fucking retard… 

      • Sonofmanonmoon

        oh Stephen will you not just learn that sometimes being retarded means not fitting into your pre-concieved logic…sit on that for a bit…maybe longer (you may need it)

      • Anarchaeologist

        RTFL, syphilis-ridden fuckstain

    • Sonofmanonmoon

      Nice

  • Spike1138

    Frank, you ARE that ruthless enemy…

  • Melissa Cline

    Frank Miller seems to be suffering from a raging case of Privileged White Boy Syndrome.

  • Melissa Cline

    Frank Miller seems to be suffering from a raging case of Privileged White Boy Syndrome.

    • Elmyr23

      take out the white boy and keep eveything else and you can not be a racist. Like your idea but hate the hate on my kind.

      • Elmyr23

        I’m pissed two ways to sunday as us white folk say it, about this statement.

        • Br0wnb3rry

          i’m white and i would agree with him Melissa

          • Br0wnb3rry

            i mean i would agree with Melissa, there is white Privilege that most people don’t want to think is there….

          • Jaymalls

            Get em Dalton Conley! lol!

      • Jin The Ninja

        “White Male Privilege” is a legitimate feminist/post-colonialist/ethnic studies critique, and is not considered ‘racist.’

      • Jaymalls

        “White Boy Syndrome” sounds about right!

      • Mikhos

        Are you daft? Do you not realize what being a white male inherently grants us just by being born like this? And he’s a RICH white male. Think about it before you use the race card.

      • anonymouse

         You’re pretty sensitive for a cracker.

  • over indulging

    seems like he has a lot of money tied into stocks 

  • over indulging

    seems like he has a lot of money tied into stocks 

  • over indulging

    seems like he has a lot of money tied into stocks 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Faceless-Anarkest/100001973641169 Faceless Anarkest

    We need a :Punisher to go after the 1%.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Faceless-Anarkest/100001973641169 Faceless Anarkest

    We need a :Punisher to go after the 1%.

  • apedubuya

    What is it with famous artists & talents turning into cranks? Ezra Pound, TS Eliot, Bobby Fischer, Glenn Gould, any Hollywood actor on a crusade to save the world, Bono. I guess fame catches up to you eventually, exposing you at your worst no matter the personality type. At least Miller wasn’t being anti-semitic; but still: you’d think he’d be at least sympathetic to the idea of free speech. More so he seems peeved that others can say what they want in a medium or manner that they choose.

  • apedubuya

    What is it with famous artists & talents turning into cranks? Ezra Pound, TS Eliot, Bobby Fischer, Glenn Gould, any Hollywood actor on a crusade to save the world, Bono. I guess fame catches up to you eventually, exposing you at your worst no matter the personality type. At least Miller wasn’t being anti-semitic; but still: you’d think he’d be at least sympathetic to the idea of free speech. More so he seems peeved that others can say what they want in a medium or manner that they choose.

    • apedubuya

      follow up to this post, just found a great rant by Ambrose Bierce regarding Oscar Wilde:

      “There never was an impostor so hateful, a blockhead so stupid, a crank
      so variously and offensively daft. Therefore is the fool enamored of
      the feel of his tongue in her ear to tickle her understanding.

      The limpid and spiritless vacuity of this intellectual jellyfish is in
      ludicrous contrast with the rude but robust mental activities that he
      came to quicken and inspire. Not only has he no thoughts, but no
      thinker. His lecture is mere verbal ditch-water — meaningless, trite and
      without coherence. It lacks even the nastiness that exalts and refines
      his verse. Moreover, it is obviously his own; he had not even the energy
      and independence to steal it.”

      Frank Miller eat your heart out.

  • mrtastycakes

    He’s either being facetious or he’s become senile.

  • mrtastycakes

    He’s either being facetious or he’s become senile.

    • mrtastycakes
    • Adam

      Unfortunately, he’s neither: Miller has been a complete right-wing fuckhead since 9/11.  Like a lot of people in this country who had never even heard of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, or Afghanistan before late 2001, when the WTC terror attacks happened he had a grand political epiphany along the lines of “Scary scary Muslim scary! America good! Terrorists bad! Save me Jebus – I mean George Bush!” Schmuck.    

      • Honu

        Some people’s filaments are thinner than you’d expect.  Dennis Miller blew his bulb after 9-11 also.

        • Adam

          Very true and good point.  Both seem like intelligent, talented Millers who completely bought-in to the neo-con worldview after the 9/11 terror attacks because they were scared and didn’t know how to really process 3000 people getting murdered by religious fanatics; hell, I don’t think I’ve completely processed it myself, and it’s been ten years and I didn’t even know anyone who was killed.

          To be honest, the Frank Miller thing bugs me more because I’m actually a fan of his stuff (except for “300″), whereas I’ve never actually cared about Dennis Miller’s comedy one way or the other.

      • Rus Archer

        how would anyone hear of al-qaeda before the u.s. government fabricated them as an opponent?

        • Poeticaction13

          Rus, I was well aware of Al-Queda as was anyone who reads international news, 9-11 was not their 1st move so IF they were US backed/ instigated the planners wasted a lot of time before they got your attention. The things it takes to get peoples attention these days! Sorry for what might sound disrespectful to the dead, I don’t mean it in that sense, but not following the news is not a good reason to assume something. If there is a lie here it is buried a layer or two deeper than you have yet peered into….

        • Adam

          Oh for fuck’s sake, I know this was going to crop up soon or later, as this is disinfo…

          Look, if you want to think that the US govt planned, enacted and controlled the 9-11 terror attacks entirely on its own (or certain elements of the govt did, or in collusion with Israel or the Mossad, or the Illuminati, or the Draconians, or fucking Frank Miller) then that’s your business; I disagree, sorry.  It’s not that I don’t think that the US govt (MY govt) was not and is not logistically or morally capable of such an act, just that they did not do so in this instance. 

          Did the Bush administration, with the complete and cowardly cooperation of the Democratic Party, exploit the living shit out this tragedy to further their own greedy, warmongering agenda? Hell yes.  Did they (and the Clinton administration) ignore warnings that such an attack would occur in the months and years before 9-11 (a la the Phoenix memo)? Almost certainly. Did the United States have a great deal of culpability in creating the situation and conditions necessary for a group like al-Qaeda to come about, and is this still reflected in our immoral, hypocritical, profit-driven foreign policy?  Of course – Bin Laden and others like him were called “freedom fighters” in the 80s by Reagan himself when those fanatic assholes were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan; all of this was done with our money, our weapons, our intelligence, and our training. I literally got into fistfights with people when I tried to tell them this ten years ago.

          However…while I think there are a great deal of questions that remain about 9-11 (such as: did our Air Force shoot down Flight 93?), I personally think that yes, pissed-off Muslim extremists committed these attacks, and that Bush did not “knock down the towers” (with apologies to Immortal Technique).  I understand and (mostly) respect the opinion of people who think otherwise, but I personally believe that al-Qaeda terrorists, with funding and inspiration from Osama Bin Laden, carried out the 9-11 attacks. I think this for a variety of reasons, but one in particular stands out to me:

          They hit the fucking Pentagon. 

          • Rus Archer

            arguing with things i did not say
            all i said was the u.s. government fabricated al-qaeda
            not supported, not created, not funded, not trained
            FABRICATED
            yes, terrorist groups existbut this global al-qaeda conspiracy = fabricationa handful of dudes here or there?they only started using the name AFTER the u.s. propaganda machine came up with it”oh, shit, they’re scared of whoever this al guy is, let’s use THAT name, THEN they’ll fear us”

          • Adam

            You are contradicting yourself – to fabricate means to create.  And what do you mean exactly by “fabricate” anyway?  Certain Islamic fundamentalists (Bin Laden/al-Zawahiri/Taliban associates) only used the name AFTER 9/11? Please explain further.

            And yes, like Poeticaction13 I had heard of al-Qaeda before 9/11.

  • Myjohnsonis12incheslong

    What an asshole- a shame that a comic book legend gets his information for Sean Hannity and then repeats it verbatim. That’s the fox new talking point “a bunch of criminals, rapists, addicts…blah blah blah” first off, its about time someone stood up against they bankers and monied interests who are fucking the world up- second, if nothing else, they exposed how little freedom we actually have, and how our “rights” are a myth. This asshole sounds like another grumpy old man, who was probably against civil rights also.

  • Myjohnsonis12incheslong

    What an asshole- a shame that a comic book legend gets his information for Sean Hannity and then repeats it verbatim. That’s the fox new talking point “a bunch of criminals, rapists, addicts…blah blah blah” first off, its about time someone stood up against they bankers and monied interests who are fucking the world up- second, if nothing else, they exposed how little freedom we actually have, and how our “rights” are a myth. This asshole sounds like another grumpy old man, who was probably against civil rights also.

    • Harlknaptonity

      Here is an awesome comic drawn in the style of Miller and calling Miller out for his idiotic comments

      http://www.badhaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/dick-knight-600×927.jpg

      • JaceD

        That is pure gold

      • rusthand

        I think Mr Miller is entitled to his opinion.  I don’t watch Fox news or MSNBC.  However, I find these OWS people to be nothing more than beggars.  They want something for nothing.  I am not rich and have always worked for everything I own. I do not begrudge others from doing the same.  However, I do not want a habd out from anyone.  I don’t want something I didn’t earn.  Redistribution of wealth is taking without earning.

        • Andrew

          Most of them aren’t beggars and they don’t want handouts of something for nothing.  They want the government to do the will of the voters, not the campaign contributors.

        • anonymouse

          Which is exactly what the fucking government does.

          DUH

  • mrtastycakes
  • Adam

    Unfortunately, he’s neither: Miller has been a complete right-wing fuckhead since 9/11.  Like a lot of people in this country who had never even heard of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, or Afghanistan before late 2001, when the WTC terror attacks happened he had a grand political epiphany along the lines of “Scary scary Muslim scary! America good! Terrorists bad! Save me Jebus – I mean George Bush!” Schmuck.    

  • Harlknaptonity

    Here is an awesome comic drawn in the style of Miller and calling Miller out for his idiotic comments

    http://www.badhaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/dick-knight-600×927.jpg

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    I’m glad someone made the “bowel” movement joke before I had to. The funny thing is, the nation’s been constipated for way too long, and people want to act like we can just hide this huge shit under a rug without it stinking up the place.

    To further this gross metaphor, maybe if we used it to fertilize something we might have some damn growth, but people keep yelling at eachother about the smell, and trying to get the other guy to clean up the mess.

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    I’m glad someone made the “bowel” movement joke before I had to. The funny thing is, the nation’s been constipated for way too long, and people want to act like we can just hide this huge shit under a rug without it stinking up the place.

    To further this gross metaphor, maybe if we used it to fertilize something we might have some damn growth, but people keep yelling at eachother about the smell, and trying to get the other guy to clean up the mess.

    • Anarchy Pony

      Growth really isn’t in anyone’s best interest. Except maybe in a spiritual or philosophical sense. Otherwise it just means a dead/totally enslaved planet.

      • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

        I don’t mean growth in the big animal eating the smaller animal to get bigger sense. i mean in the trees growing out of barren land sense

    • Elmyr23

      might i remind you chaorder flowers grow on bullshit and that is beautiful

      • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

        that is precisely what i meant by growth. I’m sure whatever flowers would be in that metaphor would be beautiful too

  • Anonymous

    That is pure gold

  • Hamsanath437

    hahahahahahhaha what can frank miller say about the occupy movement that critics haven’t already said about Frank Miller’s directorial debut with THE SPIRIT?

  • Hamsanath437

    hahahahahahhaha what can frank miller say about the occupy movement that critics haven’t already said about Frank Miller’s directorial debut with THE SPIRIT?

  • Hamsanath437

    hahahahahahhaha what can frank miller say about the occupy movement that critics haven’t already said about Frank Miller’s directorial debut with THE SPIRIT?

    • anonymouse

       ”The city, I cannot deny her. Even when she is full of cowardly pond scum who hate my beloved country. My city screams, “Get a job, hippies!” She is my lover. She is my mother, and I am her Spirit. I will kill them all kind of dead for blocking her streets and camping in her parks. And… for Muffins!”

  • Damabupuk

    Ah well.  Yet another of my comic book heroes (Hey, Dave Sim, how ya doin’?) turns into a raving looney.  I guess Miller’s Dark Knight would be riding through the streets on a horse clubbing protesters now, instead of battling a corrupt establishment.

  • Damabupuk

    Ah well.  Yet another of my comic book heroes (Hey, Dave Sim, how ya doin’?) turns into a raving looney.  I guess Miller’s Dark Knight would be riding through the streets on a horse clubbing protesters now, instead of battling a corrupt establishment.

    • Frank W

      I just concluded that he has been a raving looney all along. And that the various circles of Hell he described throughout his body of work were a sadist’s wank fantasies. That I misinterpreted them as cautionary tales.
      Which means, I have a bunch of torrent downloads to delete.

  • Mattey

    Batman isn’t really a super hero. He’s just a rich asshole who buys a bunch of gadgets and lives a life of self pity and affluence. 

  • Mattey

    Batman isn’t really a super hero. He’s just a rich asshole who buys a bunch of gadgets and lives a life of self pity and affluence. 

    • JaceD

      Batman is part of the 1%. He’d be out on the street beating up the OWS protesters and protecting his wealth

      • Anarchy Pony

        But, but he’s a “wealth creator”! Without his company, there wouldn’t be any jerbs for the citizens of gotham. And without employment, people are totally screwed within the income/employment paradigm. For they are deprived of access to the means of production and the resources necessary for life thanks to the concept of private property and capital, meaning they have to sell themselves to owners of capital(or if they do own property, allow it to be exploited and therefore destroyed) or face starvation, or if they’re lucky have to live off of charity. So we must do everything we can to grovel for the owners of capital and allow them to rape the land and exploit our labor so we can just go on living.
        Whoa, kind of went off on a tangeant there…

        • JaceD

          Bruce Wayne would have only kept his staff employed till his Batman gadgets out sourced those working for him, then he wouldn’t think twice about firing them. Even his butler is more robot than human! haha

        • Plarp-you-plap

          Anarchy Pony.. You are very well-informed and I like your style. I think I’d like to be your friend …or at least facebook friend (an impersonal and alienated mode of friendship). Get Back to me.

  • Anonymous

    He’s either entirely batshit or extremely shrewd. He seems to have rallied the exact kind of moron that would buy his latest, highly islamophobic comic book.

  • dumbsaint

    He’s either entirely batshit or extremely shrewd. He seems to have rallied the exact kind of moron that would buy his latest, highly islamophobic comic book.

  • Yawn

    Alan Moore is the better writer anyway.

  • Yawn

    Alan Moore is the better writer anyway.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BY6K4DLG4FCJTDIXFHCUCTAP2U NukL

    Legend in his own mind, apparently.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BY6K4DLG4FCJTDIXFHCUCTAP2U NukL

    Legend in his own mind, apparently.

  • padraig hundt

    Hey Frank you fascist, have you forgotten what Gotham means? Well the fools have had it for long enough and the Joker has come back big time, this time he means to stay, Batman sold out. Try moving to Poland

  • padraig hundt

    Hey Frank you fascist, have you forgotten what Gotham means? Well the fools have had it for long enough and the Joker has come back big time, this time he means to stay, Batman sold out. Try moving to Poland

  • D^rail

    Frank you made all your money drawing cartoons. you know nothing about being a working man.

    • Jin The Ninja

      not in defense of miller at ALL, but have you seen the rates Marvel/DC pay per page for artists/inkers/writers? the money is shit unless you own the title.

    • quartz99

      As an artist and designer I have to take issue with that. Just because you sit at a desk doesn’t mean the mental work isn’t every bit as exhausting. I’ve worked factory work and now I’m a desk jockey — most days the desk job leaves me more wrung out. It’s less physically demanding but overall more stressful. When I was working factory I was bone tired at the end of a day but I still had creative power left for art. For some people it’ll be the other way around, sure, but the point is that drawing cartoons is actually pretty hard work for next to no money. Just because it only takes you a few seconds to look at doesn’t mean it only took a few seconds to create.

      Not that I agree with a word he’s saying, just I think you’re way way way off base.

      • Challenging Duelism

        The main thing to know, quartz99 is that Frank Miller is neither an artist, a writer or a working man,  and as far as I can tell from the ranted posted above, he’s not a thinker either.

        ““Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly
        mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness.
        These clowns can do nothing but harm America.”

        Louts – like what, Frank Miller?
        Thieves – like what, the government, banks, military, corporations and churches?
        Rapists -  oops, I said the C-word in the post-priest era.  Maybe I should have said Blackwater Security or I don’t know,  the entire lot of them,  Gaia’s ass is bleeding and all
        Unruly mob -  sounds more like the Balmy Army or a day in any parliament you can find – I mean seriously, what the fuck?
        Woodstock-era nostalgia – oh yes, let’s all eat magic mushrooms and go back home when we run out of pot.  Give me a fuckin break…..if the hippies did their job properly we wouldn’t be in this mess now,  nostalgia?  more like disdain
        Putrid false righteousness – we’ve never seen that before, have we *rolls eyes*

        And then the last statement – laughable.  Harm america?  What about the rest of the world you jackass, WE’RE ALL PROTESTING. 

        P.S.  Frank Miller is the jackass, not you

  • D^rail

    Frank you made all your money drawing cartoons. you know nothing about being a working man.

  • Anonymous

    Batman is part of the 1%. He’d be out on the street beating up the OWS protesters and protecting his wealth

  • apedubuya

    follow up to this post, just found a great rant by Ambrose Bierce regarding Oscar Wilde:

    “There never was an impostor so hateful, a blockhead so stupid, a crank
    so variously and offensively daft. Therefore is the fool enamored of
    the feel of his tongue in her ear to tickle her understanding.

    The limpid and spiritless vacuity of this intellectual jellyfish is in
    ludicrous contrast with the rude but robust mental activities that he
    came to quicken and inspire. Not only has he no thoughts, but no
    thinker. His lecture is mere verbal ditch-water — meaningless, trite and
    without coherence. It lacks even the nastiness that exalts and refines
    his verse. Moreover, it is obviously his own; he had not even the energy
    and independence to steal it.”

    Frank Miller eat your heart out.

  • BuzzCoastin

    I am proud to say
    I don’t know who this guy is and
    that I never saw any of the Batman movies and
    rarely read the comic book.

    It is not surprising that someone who benefited
    from the Fantasy American Dream of the Consumer
    would be against those who might disassemble it.

    • anonymouse

      Concurred.

  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    I am proud to say
    I don’t know who this guy is and
    that I never saw any of the Batman movies and
    rarely read the comic book.

    It is not surprising that someone who benefited
    from the Fantasy American Dream of the Consumer
    would be against those who might disassemble it.

  • Girlindaytona

    Ha! What a loser! I am a business owner, homeowner and former law enforcement officer, not some anarchist. I stand for better government and l level playing field. I support the capitalist system which, by the way, would include a boycot of your work and the work of publishers who would support you. You have a right to disagree with us but when you call us such names, we have a right to boycott you and your employers.

  • Girlindaytona

    Ha! What a loser! I am a business owner, homeowner and former law enforcement officer, not some anarchist. I stand for better government and l level playing field. I support the capitalist system which, by the way, would include a boycot of your work and the work of publishers who would support you. You have a right to disagree with us but when you call us such names, we have a right to boycott you and your employers.

  • Ehaleen

    Some one is going to get pied at comic con.

    • Jin The Ninja

      i’ll post it to disinfo if i see it happen.

  • Ehaleen

    Some one is going to get pied at comic con.

  • Frogboy

    The person who owns the castle is always the last one to figure out why the peasants are storming it.

  • Frogboy

    The person who owns the castle is always the last one to figure out why the peasants are storming it.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    not in defense of miller at ALL, but have you seen the rates Marvel/DC pay per page for illustrator/inkers/writers? the money is shit unless you own the title.

  • RoboKy

    Did he suffer a head injury and forgot he was the man who wrote Batman: Year One?  Or did he just turn into an old white guy who’s mad that the protesters wont get off his lawn and stop playing that rocks and rolls music? 

  • Anonymous

    Did he suffer a head injury and forgot he was the man who wrote Batman: Year One?  Or did he just turn into an old white guy who’s mad that the protesters wont get off his lawn and stop playing that rocks and rolls music? 

  • Danny Adams

    He should dress up in a loincloth and go beat them up with a big sword.

  • Danny Adams

    He should dress up in a loincloth and go beat them up with a big sword.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iam-Skycake/100001620503494 Iam Skycake

    I always thought comic were for sissy boys.  Drawn by sissies too. 

    • Jin The Ninja

      using emasculating language against non traditional male behaviours does not empower you, nor increase your masculinity.

      • Andrew

        But it does take one’s focus off one’s own insecurities.

      • Misterfurious

        Jin, you’re probably my favorite commenter on this board. Your responses “jive” pretty well with my own outlook and philosophies, but… you don’t have to take any negative comments about comic books and their readers so seriously. Let people think what they think. If it happens to be an ignorant view (like the anti-comics comments) that view will come back to bite that person in the ass some way or another.

        Since Andrew brought up the issue of “insecurities,” if you know who you are and are proud of who you are and are SECURE in who you are. Ignorant-but-ultimately-harmless views like Skycake’s shouldn’t really bother you.

        • Jin The Ninja

          Mr. Furious, thanks for the compliment! really appreciate it. i never really think anyone reads my posts. lol. Yes, you are right, i took the comment personally-and there was no need for me to do so. i have a tendency towards that, and sometimes it probably comes across as overly aggressive/sensitive.

          and no it doesn’t bother me at the end of the day, but i am a bonadfide smart ass, and have difficulty passing up those opportunities…

          peace

          Jin

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iam-Skycake/100001620503494 Iam Skycake

    I always thought comic were for sissy boys.  Drawn by sissies too. 

  • John L.

    “America is at war against a ruthless enemy.”

    Can someone tell me who/what that would be? I’d poised to find out. Names, numbers, photo’s and addresses please. 

    • anonymouse

      More like America is at war with a ruthlessly oppressed enemy.

      i.e., fucking everybody and everthing

  • John L.

    “America is at war against a ruthless enemy.”

    Can someone tell me who/what that would be? I’d poised to find out. Names, numbers, photo’s and addresses please. 

  • Anarchy Pony

    Braying Jackass says HEE HAW!
    I tell you what frank, when some fedayiin are running raids out of the hills and mountains of my home state, I’ll start giving a shit, Hell I’ll be out there with an assault rifle and buck knife, but until then, it isn’t high on my list of priorities. Stopping the corporate fascist machine is.

  • Anarchy Pony

    Braying Jackass says HEE HAW!
    I tell you what frank, when some fedayiin are running raids out of the hills and mountains of my home state, I’ll start giving a shit, Hell I’ll be out there with an assault rifle and buck knife, but until then, it isn’t high on my list of priorities. Stopping the corporate fascist machine is.

  • Anarchy Pony

    But, but he’s a “wealth creator”! Without his company, there wouldn’t be any jerbs for the citizens of gotham. And without employment, people are totally screwed within the income/employment paradigm. For they are deprived of access to the means of production and the resources necessary for life thanks to the concept of private property and capital, meaning they have to sell themselves to owners of capital(or if they do own property, allow it to be exploited and therefore destroyed) or face starvation, or if they’re lucky have to live off of charity. So we must do everything we can to grovel for the owners of capital and allow them to rape the land and exploit our labor so we can just go on living.
    Whoa, kind of went off on a tangeant there…

  • John Smith

    It’s just like the white supremacists who act like they’re the ones being oppressed.

  • John Smith

    It’s just like the white supremacists who act like they’re the ones being oppressed.

  • Anarchy Pony

    Growth really isn’t in anyone’s best interest. Except maybe in a spiritual or philosophical sense. Otherwise it just means a dead/totally enslaved planet.

  • Elmyr23

    take out the white boy and keep eveything else and you can not be a racist. Like your idea but hate the hate on my kind.

  • Elmyr23

    I’m pissed two ways to sunday as us white folk say it, about this statement.

  • Elmyr23

    might i remind you chaorder flowers grow on bullshit and that is beautiful

  • Redacted

    Frank, Frank, Frank. As if you know what it means to be a working man.

  • Anonymous

    Frank, Frank, Frank. We will fucking purge you and your entire family.

    By purge I mean “children and spouse ground up into human burger and force fed to you”

    When you scream for death, well. I guess thats when we leave the lights on and Cradle of Filth blaring. Hope the cops find you before you starve Frank, it only takes a month. Oh, it doesn’t take much to hook a man up to an IV drip to keep him hydrated as he starves to death.

  • Bill_Swensen

    Wow I always had a feeling comic books were for douche bags. I’m kind of glad I’ve never given a fuck about them ever in my life. Even as a kid I thought they were boring.

    • Jin The Ninja

      you realise that your “broad strokes” approach has insulted me, and probably half the posters on this board.

      i think frank miller is a certifiable “DB,” but comic books, as a medium, has nothing to do with that.

    • Harlknaptonity

      I’m surprised that there seem to be so few comic fans here considering what a powerful and artful book  ’V for Vendetta”  was… Not to mention its not-so-subtle revolutionary tones

      • Jin The Ninja

        Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta, and anarchist undertones permeate all his work.

      • Sincityplus

        And a damn good book it is

      • quartz99

        Nah, I think most of us comic fans have pretty much stopped paying attention to what Miller’s doing anymore is all so people condemning his hateful little screed is no big deal, particularly considering how many of us are more liberal and are more likely to have seen the screed and be the ones condemning it… And V has nothing to do with Miller anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/inman.james James Inman

    Wow I always had a feeling comic books were for douche bags. I’m kind of glad I’ve never given a fuck about them ever in my life. Even as a kid I thought they were boring.

  • Anonymous

    Bruce Wayne would have only kept his stuff employed till his Batman gadgets out sourced those working for him, then he wouldn’t think twice about firing them. Even his butler is more robot than human! haha 

  • Taisto

    It is strange and sad if people have not understood before that all those DCmarvel-type komix have always been just a CIA-backed form of indoctrination.

    • Jin The Ninja

      some are propaganda of the highest order, but it really depends on the title and author. DC is by far more pro-gov, pro-military,  less multi racial (by a lot), and less progressive.

      whereas several dozen marvel titles (and marvel’s adult imprints) are pretty subversive. i can’t not mention dc’s vertigo imprint, which published the now infamous “v for vendetta” “sandman” and “books of magic” which are not particularly sympathetic to a right wing point of view.

  • Taisto

    It is strange and sad if people have not understood before that all those DCmarvel-type komix have always been just a CIA-backed form of indoctrination.

  • RatMan

    Take your millions and shut the fuck up Frank. Money isn’t going to save you, it isn’t going to save anyone. Worship your idols and die as dead as they are.

  • RatMan

    Take your millions and shut the fuck up Frank. Money isn’t going to save you, it isn’t going to save anyone. Worship your idols and die as dead as they are.

  • 5by5

    So Frank Miller’s a dick. 

    Something which, if you’ve ever read anything he’s written, you should already have been able to figure out.

  • 5by5

    So Frank Miller’s a dick. 

    Something which, if you’ve ever read anything he’s written, you should already have been able to figure out.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    you realise that your “broad strokes” approach has insulted me, and probably half the posters on this board.

    i think frank miller is a certifiable “DB,” but comic books, as a medium, has nothing to do with that.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    some are propaganda of the highest order, but it really depends on the title and author. DC is by far more pro-gov, pro-military,  less multi racial (by a lot), and less progressive.

    whereas several dozen marvel titles (and marvel’s adult imprints) are pretty subversive. i can’t not mention dc’s vertigo imprint, which published the now infamous “v for vendetta” “sandman” and “books of magic” which are not particularly sympathetic to a right wing point of view.

  • davakins

    has this clown even fired a bb gun in defense of this country….hey Frank, why don’t you join the army?

  • davakins

    has this clown even fired a bb gun in defense of this country….hey Frank, why don’t you join the army?

  • Harlknaptonity

    I’m surprised that there seem to be so few comic fans here considering what a powerful and artful book  ’V for Vendetta”  was… Not to mention its not-so-subtle revolutionary tones

  • Rev Russell

    Oh, fuck you Frank Miller, you overrated hack.  The only halfway decent thing you ever did was write a few comics for someone else’s franchise (batman).  All of your “original” work is just a pile of gratuitous violence peppered with cliched chauvinistic characters and subpar story lines.  Alan Moore wipes his ass with weak writers like you.  HA, a writer, yeah right. I have a master’s degree in literature and creative writing, and you sir, are NO writer.  Boycott this asshole, and flood his site with your disgust.  Let’s occupy his ignorance, let’s show this motherfucker, and all the other piglets on the corporate teat, that we mean business.  

    • Rus Archer

      i don’t need a degree to know he only appeals to the 13-year old male brain

    • rusthand

      Wow.  A master’s degree in literature and all you could do was spout curse words like a 14 year old.  I am so impressed with today’s higher educational system. 

      • anonymouse

         Yea, fuck that shit man.

  • Rev Russell

    Oh, fuck you Frank Miller, you overrated hack.  The only halfway decent thing you ever did was write a few comics for someone else’s franchise (batman).  All of your “original” work is just a pile of gratuitous violence peppered with cliched chauvinistic characters and subpar story lines.  Alan Moore wipes his ass with weak writers like you.  HA, a writer, yeah right. I have a master’s degree in literature and creative writing, and you sir, are NO writer.  Boycott this asshole, and flood his site with your disgust.  Let’s occupy his ignorance, let’s show this motherfucker, and all the other piglets on the corporate teat, that we mean business.  

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    Alan Moore wrote V for Vendetta, and anarchist undertones permeate all his work.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    i’ll post it to disinfo if i see it happen.

  • Mamagriff50

    WE hear from a wealthy elite as*! Sounds just like John McCain, He thought everyone in America makes 100,000 a year. Why not open your front door and walk down the street. They’re are no jobs worth having. As*hole.

  • Mamagriff50

    WE hear from a wealthy elite as*! Sounds just like John McCain, He thought everyone in America makes 100,000 a year. Why not open your front door and walk down the street. They’re are no jobs worth having. As*hole.

  • Vita

    So says the proud author of the adolescent pro-military fantasy, 300.  Thanks for your input, Frank.

  • Vita

    So says the proud author of the adolescent pro-military fantasy, 300.  Thanks for your input, Frank.

  • Tinytemper

    Didnt you hear?  It’s work if you get paid.  That’s how it came to be that CEOs work so hard.

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    that is precisely what i meant by growth. I’m sure whatever flowers would be in that metaphor would be beautiful too

  • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

    I don’t mean growth in the big animal eating the smaller animal to get bigger sense. i mean in the trees growing out of barren land sense

  • Honu

    Some people’s filaments are thinner than you’d expect.  Dennis Miller blew his bulb after 9-11 also.

  • Honu

    Some people’s filaments are thinner than you’d expect.  Dennis Miller blew his bulb after 9-11 also.

  • Br0wnb3rry

    i’m white and i would agree with him Melissa

  • Br0wnb3rry

    i’m white and i would agree with him Melissa

  • Br0wnb3rry

    i mean i would agree with Melissa, there is white Privilege that most people don’t want to think is there….

  • Br0wnb3rry

    i mean i would agree with Melissa, there is white Privilege that most people don’t want to think is there….

  • http://www.facebook.com/chinagreenelvis Eric Vinyard

    “The Dark Knight Returns” is a piece of shit anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chinagreenelvis Eric Vinyard

    “The Dark Knight Returns” is a piece of shit anyway.

  • Andrew

    CEOs don’t work very hard.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    “White Male Privilege” is a legitimate feminist/post-colonialist/ethnic studies critique, and is not considered.

  • Sincityplus

    I agree with most comments here.  But the truth of all this is Frank Miller needs attention  And remember what better way to reignite a fading career than to post comments that cause a stir.  People seem to remember villains in society not people who do good.  This Occupy movement is a pivotal moment in history. It will most likely be well documented.  A well known voice in it good or bad will be remembered over the years.  ” Good news never leaves the gate, bad news travels a thousand miles.”

    P.S Frank:  Next Time, you might not want to go on a  blogging fest while you are under the influence of Heavy drinking and drugs .

  • Sincityplus

    I agree with most comments here.  But the truth of all this is Frank Miller needs attention  And remember what better way to reignite a fading career than to post comments that cause a stir.  People seem to remember villains in society not people who do good.  This Occupy movement is a pivotal moment in history. It will most likely be well documented.  A well known voice in it good or bad will be remembered over the years.  ” Good news never leaves the gate, bad news travels a thousand miles.”

    P.S Frank:  Next Time, you might not want to go on a  blogging fest while you are under the influence of Heavy drinking and drugs .

  • Sincityplus

    And a damn good book it is

  • Adam

    Very true and good point.  Both seem like intelligent, talented Millers who completely bought-in to the neo-con worldview after the 9/11 terror attacks because they were scared and didn’t know how to really process 3000 people getting murdered by religious fanatics; hell, I don’t think I’ve completely processed it myself, and it’s been ten years and I didn’t even know anyone who was killed.

    To be honest, the Frank Miller thing bugs me more because I’m actually a fan of his stuff (except for “300″), whereas I’ve never actually cared about Dennis Miller’s comedy one way or the other.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    using emasculating language against non traditional male behaviours does not empower you, nor increase your masculinity.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    using emasculating language against non traditional male behaviours does not empower you, nor increase your masculinity.

  • Andrew

    But it does take one’s focus off one’s own insecurities.

  • Threefourdumb

    Dear Frank,
    You haven’t done anything worthwhile since Dare Devil. Stop relying on sexually assaulted and powerless women to flush out your plot ideas. Or maybe just go away.

  • Threefourdumb

    Dear Frank,
    You haven’t done anything worthwhile since Dare Devil. Stop relying on sexually assaulted and powerless women to flush out your plot ideas. Or maybe just go away.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZM2Z2A6N3U6EZSGPO6QPRAM2Q Alan

    Frank, Wesley Willis wrote this for you~ “I Whupped Batman’s Ass”.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogid9D0rcEI

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DZM2Z2A6N3U6EZSGPO6QPRAM2Q Alan

    Frank, Wesley Willis wrote this for you~ “I Whupped Batman’s Ass”.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogid9D0rcEI

  • SARAH

    we need govement out of our lives even more than ever!!!  Asking the govement to put more controls over someone earning, making or becoming richer is turning this country away from why America is America.  But since we are supposed to have free speech, which I begin to wonder about.  However I wish these people who want these controls,  to realize, once you give this control, others will be taken away without your approval.  you need to realize how many of your rights were already taken away{ Since 9/11}

  • SARAH

    we need govement out of our lives even more than ever!!!  Asking the govement to put more controls over someone earning, making or becoming richer is turning this country away from why America is America.  But since we are supposed to have free speech, which I begin to wonder about.  However I wish these people who want these controls,  to realize, once you give this control, others will be taken away without your approval.  you need to realize how many of your rights were already taken away{ Since 9/11}

  • Anonymous

    As an artist and designer I have to take issue with that. Just because you sit at a desk doesn’t mean the mental work isn’t every bit as exhausting. I’ve worked factory work and now I’m a desk jockey — most days the desk job leaves me more wrung out. It’s less physically demanding but overall more stressful. When I was working factory I was bone tired at the end of a day but I still had creative power left for art. For some people it’ll be the other way around, sure, but the point is that drawing cartoons is actually pretty hard work for next to no money. Just because it only takes you a few seconds to look at doesn’t mean it only took a few seconds to create.

    Not that I agree with a word he’s saying, just I think you’re way way way off base.

  • Anonymous

    Nah, I think most of us comic fans have pretty much stopped paying attention to what Miller’s doing anymore is all so people condemning his hateful little screed is no big deal, particularly considering how many of us are more liberal and are more likely to have seen the screed and be the ones condemning it… And V has nothing to do with Miller anyway.

  • Anonymous

    “White Boy Syndrome” sounds about right!

  • Anonymous

    Let me guess… Your a CEO??? STFU Puss

  • http://www.facebook.com/elpolloloco52 Josh Adkisson

    Learn to spell before you venture so far as cussing. It makes you look less like a fifteen year old.

  • Anonymous

    wooo nice comeback JOSH, wat a gay name by the way! I take it no one has referred to you as a “Puss” before… im glad i could be the first! Google “Puss,” before you tell me i need to learn how to spell -> its for pussies that don’t deserve the “Y.” Don’t steal my sh*t by the way!

  • Jin Onikoroshi

      who calls people “gay” “puss” “pussies”!? it’s 2011, time to grow up and get a clue.

  • Andrew

    Ha, wrong again!  He and I are not the same person!

    And you don’t even know what word you spelled wrong in your first reply!

  • Mikhos

    Are you daft? Do you not realize what being a white male inherently grants us just by being born like this? And he’s a RICH white male. Think about it before you use the race card.

  • Frank W

    I just concluded that he has been a raving looney all along. And that the various circles of Hell he described throughout his body of work were a sadist’s wank fantasies. That I misinterpreted them as cautionary tales.
    Which means, I have a bunch of torrent downloads to delete.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=773433966 Rus Archer

    i don’t need a degree to know he only appeals to the 13-year old male brain

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=773433966 Rus Archer

    how would anyone hear of al-qaeda before the u.s. government fabricated them as an opponent?

  • Anonymous

    lol… this is a c section not a comp & lit class duff. I also didn’t spell any word wrong, i just used “your” incorrectly. I hope you’re a teacher, because if you are not… YOU GETS NO VAGINA!!!

  • Anonymous

    Grow some balls…. i totally forgot about this anti-bullying BS that is sweeping the nation. HAHAHAHAHAHAH <- I really had to! Anyway, if you can't take a joke then you deserve to kill yourself… #AllHonesty All my life I've been a fat fuck, especially elementary through middle school. I got teased everyday until i learned to stand up for myself. It didn't hurt that i had a basketball hoop in my backyard and a fresh pair of Air Jordans either. I joked back, fought back, and most importantly i learned to ignore bullshit. If kids now-a-days can't even take a Facebook comment without crying to their moms, then we are going to have an even softer generation than we do now.

    P.S. This is to the person(s) that flagged my comment.It wasn't even that bad and that is exactly what I am talking about… filtering everything so you wont hurt FEELINGS ( Yes… FEELINGS!!!). The sad part is "you guys" are the 1st to cry about transparency.

  • Anonymous

    Get em Dalton Conley! lol!

  • Anonymous

    Dood…

    Who BUYS comic books!?

    The 1% of rich elite???

    -or-

    Spoiled kids and adults from the “Middle/Upper Middle Class” the 1% top are trying to destroy?

  • greengestalt

    Dood…

    Who BUYS comic books!?

    The 1% of rich elite???

    -or-

    Spoiled kids and adults from the “Middle/Upper Middle Class” the 1% top are trying to destroy?

    • Jin The Ninja

      uh neither…. it’s a pretty universal medium, and has greater appeal amongst working and middle class people. considered ‘low brow.’ although the last decade has seen an explosion in academic work on comics.

      in my undergrad days i took 2 entire courses on it. pretty good for the conservative high brow school i attended.

      as a grad, comics /graphic fiction is  the focus of my minor.

      still pretty far from elitist.

      i remember when you couldn’t buy manga/manhwa in canada, and i would bring suitcases of it back from singapore. NO one considered it cool then.

      the film remakes/franchises have increased their mainstream visibility, and also deeply contributed to the vast range of shitty titles and spin offs of mainstream characters…

      still comics have an undeniable alternative appeal, and many titles have deeply subversives undertones.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    uh neither…. it’s a pretty universal medium, and has greater appeal amongst working and middle class people. considered ‘low brow.’ although the last decade has seen an explosion in academic work on comics.

    in my undergrad days i took 2 entire courses on it. pretty good for the conservative high brow school i attended.

    as a grad, comics /graphic fiction is  the focus of my minor.

    still pretty far from elitist.

    i remember when you couldn’t buy manga/manhwa in canada, and i would bring suitcases of it back from singapore. NO one considered it cool then.

    the film remakes/franchises have increased their mainstream visibility, and also deeply contributed to the vast range of shitty titles and spin offs of mainstream characters…

    still comics have an undeniable alternative appeal, and many titles have deeply subversives undertones.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000200175944 Brian Reinbolt

    Yes Frank it’s annoying because they’re mostly hipsters without any real sense of what constitutes anarchy and it will probably be in vain. However amongst the crowd are scattered groups of intelligent people leading awareness of the cause.

    Unlike you at least these people know it’s almost impossible to find employment. Thankfully your retirement wasn’t negotiated and sold under your nose allowing various wall street executives to load their pockets. Capitalism has failed but that doesn’t mean it will go away anytime soon. Unfortunately it still fuels the
    country and when people purchase your comics they help the machine. How
    can they do this without jobs?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000200175944 Brian Reinbolt

    Yes Frank it’s annoying because they’re mostly hipsters without any real sense of what constitutes anarchy and it will probably be in vain. However amongst the crowd are scattered groups of intelligent people leading awareness of the cause.

    Unlike you at least these people know it’s almost impossible to find employment. Thankfully your retirement wasn’t negotiated and sold under your nose allowing various wall street executives to load their pockets. Capitalism has failed but that doesn’t mean it will go away anytime soon. Unfortunately it still fuels the
    country and when people purchase your comics they help the machine. How
    can they do this without jobs?

  • Andrew

    Learning to ignore bullshit…  Yeah, when you’re right, you’re right.  I shouldn’t have responded to your comments in the first place.

  • Anons

    Someone’s just pissed Marvel never hired him.
    And go figure some rich, ignorant, scum-fuck like him doesn’t even take into consideration the serious job deficit going on.

    Have fun taking that government stamped dick in your ass, peon.

  • Anons

    Someone’s just pissed Marvel never hired him.
    And go figure some rich, ignorant, scum-fuck like him doesn’t even take into consideration the serious job deficit going on.

    Have fun taking that government stamped dick in your ass, peon.

  • Misterfurious

    Jin, you’re probably my favorite commenter on this board. Your responses “jive” pretty well with my own outlook and philosophies, but… you don’t have to take any negative comments about comic books and their readers so seriously. Let people think what they think. If it happens to be an ignorant view (like the anti-comics comments) that view will come back to bite that person in the ass some way or another.

    Since Andrew brought up the issue of “insecurities,” if you know who you are and are proud of who you are and are SECURE in who you are. Ignorant-but-ultimately-harmless views like Skycake’s shouldn’t really bother you.

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    Mr. Furious, thanks for the compliment! really appreciate it. i never really think anyone reads my posts. lol. Yes, you are right, i took the comment personally-and there was no need for me to do so. i have a tendency towards that, and sometimes it probably comes across as overly aggressive/sensitive.

    and no it doesn’t bother me at the end of the day, but i am a bonadfide smart ass, and have difficulty passing up those opportunities…

    peace

    Jin

  • Poeticaction13

    Rus, I was well aware of Al-Queda as was anyone who reads international news, 9-11 was not their 1st move so IF they were US backed/ instigated the planners wasted a lot of time before they got your attention. The things it takes to get peoples attention these days! Sorry for what might sound disrespectful to the dead, I don’t mean it in that sense, but not following the news is not a good reason to assume something. If there is a lie here it is buried a layer or two deeper than you have yet peered into….

  • Adam

    Oh for fuck’s sake, I know this was going to crop up soon or later, as this is disinfo…

    Look, if you want to think that the US govt planned, enacted and controlled the 9-11 terror attacks entirely on its own (or certain elements of the govt did, or in collusion with Israel or the Mossad, or the Illuminati, or the Draconians, or fucking Frank Miller) then that’s your business; I disagree, sorry.  It’s not that I don’t think that the US govt (MY govt) was not and is not logistically or morally capable of such an act, just that they did not do so in this instance. 

    Did the Bush administration, with the complete and cowardly cooperation of the Democratic Party, exploit the living shit out this tragedy to further their own greedy, warmongering agenda? Hell yes.  Did they (and the Clinton administration) ignore warnings that such an attack would occur in the months and years before 9-11 (a la the Phoenix memo)? Almost certainly. Did the United States have a great deal of culpability in creating the situation and conditions necessary for a group like al-Qaeda to come about, and is this still reflected in our immoral, hypocritical, profit-driven foreign policy?  Of course – Bin Laden and others like him were called “freedom fighters” in the 80s by Reagan himself when those fanatic assholes were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan; all of this was done with our money, our weapons, our intelligence, and our training. I literally got into fistfights with people when I tried to tell them this ten years ago.

    However…while I think there are a great deal of questions that remain about 9-11 (such as: did our Air Force shoot down Flight 93?), I personally think that yes, pissed-off Muslim extremists committed these attacks, and that Bush did not “knock down the towers” (with apologies to Immortal Technique).  I understand and (mostly) respect the opinion of people who think otherwise, but I personally believe that al-Qaeda terrorists, with funding and inspiration from Osama Bin Laden, carried out the 9-11 attacks. I think this for a variety of reasons, but one in particular stands out to me:

    They hit the fucking Pentagon. 

  • Anonymous

    Where should i send my invoice to???

  • Jin Onikoroshi

    it was never about ‘bullying’, having ‘balls, or ‘taking a joke’ or even being overly sensitive. it’s actually about treating people with respect enough that discussion is possible. you don’t have to be emily post or politically correct or the perfect little poster, but you should not engage in emasculating/homophobic name calling- it’s juvenile and regressive.

    “you guys” whom does that mean exactly?

  • rusthand

    I think Mr Miller is entitled to his opinion.  I don’t watch Fox news or MSNBC.  However, I find these OWS people to be nothing more than beggars.  They want something for nothing.  I am not rich and have always worked for everything I own. I do not begrudge others from doing the same.  However, I do not want a habd out from anyone.  I don’t want something I didn’t earn.  Redistribution of wealth is taking without earning.

  • rusthand

    Wow.  A master’s degree in literature and all you could do was spout curse words like a 14 year old.  I am so impressed with today’s higher educational system. 

  • Andrew

    Most of them aren’t beggars and they don’t want handouts of something for nothing.  They want the government to do the will of the voters, not the campaign contributors.

  • rusthand

    It’s funny.  I’ve read through the majority of the posts.  It seems that the only one who isn’t entitled to his opinion is Frank Miller.  It seems as though only supporters of the OWS movement are allowed to be heard.  If your opinion differs from the OWS supporters you better be prepared for a verbal beatdown. 

    It’s also funny that the OWS and its supporters want to (wrongfully) use the First Amendment (right to “peaceably assemble”) to hide behind but deride people when they (rightfully)  use the First Amendment (freedom of speech) as Mr. Miller did.

    I applaud Mr. Miller.  I don’t agree with the way he said it, but I agree with his intent.

    • DerfelaCadarn

      We’re not deriding his use of the First Amendment, moron. We’re deriding the content of what he says, and rightfully so. You’d think that someone who is often hailed as one of the two guys who reinvented comics would have something more creative to say that “get a job, pond scum.” (When there are 7 unemployed people for every 1 job… calling it ‘easier said than done’ is an understatement.)

      Funny how he has the right to hurl insults at us, but clearly any response that doesn’t agree is anti-First Amendment? Freedom of speech means we get to call you on your bullshit, not just listen to you spew it.

    • Jin The Ninja

      your screen name should be “righthand” or “rushhand” that way it’s clear whom you are jerking off in your ridiculous right wing posturing.

  • rusthand

    It’s funny.  I’ve read through the majority of the posts.  It seems that the only one who isn’t entitled to his opinion is Frank Miller.  It seems as though only supporters of the OWS movement are allowed to be heard.  If your opinion differs from the OWS supporters you better be prepared for a verbal beatdown. 

    It’s also funny that the OWS and its supporters want to (wrongfully) use the First Amendment (right to “peaceably assemble”) to hide behind but deride people when they (rightfully)  use the First Amendment (freedom of speech) as Mr. Miller did.

    I applaud Mr. Miller.  I don’t agree with the way he said it, but I agree with his intent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=773433966 Rus Archer

    arguing with things i did not say
    all i said was the u.s. government fabricated al-qaeda
    not supported, not created, not funded, not trained
    FABRICATED
    yes, terrorist groups existbut this global al-qaeda conspiracy = fabricationa handful of dudes here or there?they only started using the name AFTER the u.s. propaganda machine came up with it”oh, shit, they’re scared of whoever this al guy is, let’s use THAT name, THEN they’ll fear us”

  • Adam

    You are contradicting yourself – to fabricate means to create.  And what do you mean exactly by “fabricate” anyway?  Certain Islamic fundamentalists (Bin Laden/al-Zawahiri/Taliban associates) only used the name AFTER 9/11? Please explain further.

    And yes, like Poeticaction13 I had heard of al-Qaeda before 9/11.

  • Jummomarx

    We could close the stock exchanges, discover the true value of the plastic things like Frank Miller books and Blueberries, and figure out if existence can even be achieved honestly

  • Jummomarx

    We could close the stock exchanges, discover the true value of the plastic things like Frank Miller books and Blueberries, and figure out if existence can even be achieved honestly

  • Plarp-you-plap

    Anarchy Pony.. You are very well-informed and I like your style. I think I’d like to be your friend …or at least facebook friend (an impersonal and alienated mode of friendship). Get Back to me.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/bingotheelectricdingo Stephen Levi Guptill

    He’s a comic book writer… Not “Fascism’ preeminent’ spokesman”… Fucking retard… 

  • Will Boone

    Thanks for your input Frank…but to be Frank…in the same flash and fashion that his art farts…oops did i let go of something?:)…thanks Frank.. for the provaceteur inticement…and thanks for the Frank Fart…Frankly…its a bit less than what you might expect considering his “rank”..maybe he’s just rolling downhill…

  • Will Boone

    Thanks for your input Frank…but to be Frank…in the same flash and fashion that his art farts…oops did i let go of something?:)…thanks Frank.. for the provaceteur inticement…and thanks for the Frank Fart…Frankly…its a bit less than what you might expect considering his “rank”..maybe he’s just rolling downhill…

  • will Boone

    ..Or down wind?

  • will Boone

    ..Or down wind?

  • Sonofmanonmoon

    Nice

  • Sonofmanonmoon

    oh Stephen will you not just learn that sometimes being retarded means not fitting into your pre-concieved logic…sit on that for a bit…maybe longer (you may need it)

  • Genre Bender

    We’re not deriding his use of the First Amendment, moron. We’re deriding the content of what he says, and rightfully so. You’d think that someone who is often hailed as one of the two guys who reinvented comics would have something more creative to say that “get a job, pond scum.” (When there are 7 unemployed people for every 1 job… calling it ‘easier said than done’ is an understatement.)

    Funny how he has the right to hurl insults at us, but clearly any response that doesn’t agree is anti-First Amendment? Freedom of speech means we get to call you on your bullshit, not just listen to you spew it.

  • Anonymous

    RTFL, syphilis-ridden fuckstain

  • anonymouse

     You’re pretty sensitive for a cracker.

  • anonymouse

    Which is exactly what the fucking government does.

    DUH

  • anonymouse

     ”The city, I cannot deny her. Even when she is full of cowardly pond scum who hate my beloved country. My city screams, “Get a job, hippies!” She is my lover. She is my mother, and I am her Spirit. I will kill them all kind of dead for blocking her streets and camping in her parks. And… for Muffins!”

  • anonymouse

     Yea, fuck that shit man.

  • anonymouse

    Concurred.

  • anonymouse

    More like America is at war with a ruthlessly oppressed enemy.

    i.e., fucking everybody and everthing

  • Jin (仁)

    your screen name should be “righthand” or “rushhand” that way it’s clear whom you are jerking off in your ridiculous right wing posturing.

  • Challenging Duelism

    The main thing to know, quartz99 is that Frank Miller is neither an artist, a writer or a working man,  and as far as I can tell from the ranted posted above, he’s not a thinker either.

    ““Occupy” is nothing but a pack of louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly
    mob, fed by Woodstock-era nostalgia and putrid false righteousness.
    These clowns can do nothing but harm America.”

    Louts – like what, Frank Miller?
    Thieves – like what, the government, banks, military, corporations and churches?
    Rapists -  oops, I said the C-word in the post-priest era.  Maybe I should have said Blackwater Security or I don’t know,  the entire lot of them,  Gaia’s ass is bleeding and all
    Unruly mob -  sounds more like the Balmy Army or a day in any parliament you can find – I mean seriously, what the fuck?
    Woodstock-era nostalgia – oh yes, let’s all eat magic mushrooms and go back home when we run out of pot.  Give me a fuckin break…..if the hippies did their job properly we wouldn’t be in this mess now,  nostalgia?  more like disdain
    Putrid false righteousness – we’ve never seen that before, have we *rolls eyes*

    And then the last statement – laughable.  Harm america?  What about the rest of the world you jackass, WE’RE ALL PROTESTING. 

    P.S.  Frank Miller is the jackass, not you

  • Dr. Foo

    Where i can understand the criticism of OWS, at least they are doing something. Some OW-ers really get it. the fed. 9/11. the military industrial complex. Meaningless wars, Lobbyist. Laundry list of things to be upset about. Others, like in any movement, are just there to be apart of something; Get on TV, Or maybe have felt something is wrong but don’t know what to do about it. They are, at times, misdirected. But at the very least, its their right to protest. Plenty of companies get something for nothing. Hence the bailouts  = corporate welfare. Frank is old and crotchety. A Bruce Wayne who is in need of a diaper change since Alfred died some 20 years ago in a freak bat jet explosion leaving the ole thousandaire to clean himself. Something I’m sure Frank’s probably not done since the 60′s….

  • Dr. Foo

    Where i can understand the criticism of OWS, at least they are doing something. Some OW-ers really get it. the fed. 9/11. the military industrial complex. Meaningless wars, Lobbyist. Laundry list of things to be upset about. Others, like in any movement, are just there to be apart of something; Get on TV, Or maybe have felt something is wrong but don’t know what to do about it. They are, at times, misdirected. But at the very least, its their right to protest. Plenty of companies get something for nothing. Hence the bailouts  = corporate welfare. Frank is old and crotchety. A Bruce Wayne who is in need of a diaper change since Alfred died some 20 years ago in a freak bat jet explosion leaving the ole thousandaire to clean himself. Something I’m sure Frank’s probably not done since the 60′s….

  • Jin (仁)

    Your ‘mom’.

  • Atlas322

    I agree with Franky. Occupy hasn’t done anything, never really DID anything, and stopped even trying months ago. It was a lame, half-assed attempt at a “movement” that I would be ashamed to call myself a part of, and I’m an anarchistic anti-corporatist! Seriously, “leaderless” is another way of saying “directionless”. No leaders, no movement, no change. Simple as that. 

  • Atlas322

    Go shoot some “damn liberals” you fucking conspiracy nut. Or better yet, go and stop the  New World Order that would totally ruin our lives somehow. Even though managing a global empire is literally impossible because the scale of such an effort would be ludicrously inefficient and the amount of variables such an effort would entail not to mention the unification of everyone else! There is honestly NO scenario where a One World Government could work! 

  • Spike1138

    “Comic Book Legend and Fascist”, I think is his full job title at this point.

    He’s always been a reactionary prick and a lazy one at that, still basically living off his Sin City and Dark Knight Returns money.

    His new “Grim n’ gritty” take on Batman stuck a chord in 1986 because it came out amidst the backdrop of Iran Contra, surges Libyan and Palestinian terrorism, the crack epidemic (see Iran Contra), renewed nuclear brinkmanship with the Soviets (who nuke a small Latin American nation in DKR(and Superman) seemingly just because they’re wreckless bastards who felt like it), AIDS, the Culture War with the Christian Right (amongst whom Frank Miller counts himself, as an angry Irish Catholic ), the PMRC, Darryl Gates, Crips and Bloods, cheap Afghan heroin on the streets of America and the last few Dirty Harry movies.

    Batman has always been a detective and an invesgtigator first, moving with stealth like a dark shadow against the sky and in partnersip with  his best friend, the local Sheriff. Hard takedowns and excessive use were frowned upon and suspects would be tied up and subdue and left out in front of precinct headquarters.

    Before Frank Miller came along, Batman had no need of either and invisible helicopter or Batmobile built like a 30 foot wide armourered tank, bristling with automatic weaponry.

    He also never felt the need to beat muggers into a bloody pulp with an iron bar or slam a pimp’s face through a brick wall.

  • Spike1138

    The Batman of tradition is a morally troubled philanthopist who tries to discreetly use his vast personal resources to protect the poor, the wretched and the downtrodden of his city from the predations of organised crime syndicates, corrupt police and public officials and the awful human toll taken in innocent life by the horror of urban blight.

    The Frank Miller Batman is a billlionaire capitalist and arms dealer, liked by no-one, who spends his free time  every evening by travelling down to the poorest districts in town by breaking legs, taking names and committing viscious, physical assualts upon street-level hustlers and dime-bag dealers who usually have about five kids to feed and no jobs in the neighbourhood apart from hooker, pimp, dealer or cop.

    All the while bellowing at them incredibly loudly (inside or outside his head) that they are “Scum!!” or “Filth!!” or “Wretched human waste!!!

    Or something.

    If you think *thatt’*s bad, you should hear what he has to say about Islam….

    He actually really DOES want to bomb all their mosques, occupy their countries and concert them all to Christianity… I mean, Ann Coulter SAYS it, but would balk if ever presented with the the bill or an estimate of how much taxes would have to go up in order to even attempt that….Frank Miller actually thinks it’s WORTH spending the money to get it over and done with….

  • Eric_D_Read

    Maybe not racist, but definitely psychobabble bullshit.
    It’s also one of the most effective tools to get working class white males to consistently vote republican.

  • DarkHeartNews

    Mr Miller IS indeed entitled to his opinoin. just as others are entitled to call him a mouth-foaming asshole for it, which is what can happen when you express your opinion in a public forum.

  • Reflectoplasm

    This has been posted here before. Why does it need to be posted again?

    • Reflectoplasm

      Oh. Nevermind. Anyway, yeah, the real enemy isn’t corporate America, it’s Islam. Yeah, that makes perfect fucking sense. 

  • Jin The Ninja

    who calls people misogynist and emasculating names anymore!? it’s 2011, time to grow up and get a clue.

    if you disagree with Josh, formulate an argument and use that as the basis for your posts.

  • Andrew

    Ha, wrong again!  He and I are not the same person!

    And you don’t even know what word you spelled wrong in your first reply!

  • Jaymalls

    Grow some balls…. i totally forgot about this anti-bullying BS that is sweeping the nation. HAHAHAHAHAHAH <- I really had to! Anyway, if you can't take a joke then you deserve to kill yourself… #AllHonesty All my life I've been a fat fuck, especially elementary through middle school. I got teased everyday until i learned to stand up for myself. It didn't hurt that i had a basketball hoop in my backyard and a fresh pair of Air Jordans either. I joked back, fought back, and most importantly i learned to ignore bullshit. If kids now-a-days can't even take a Facebook comment without crying to their moms, then we are going to have an even softer generation than we do now.

    P.S. This is to the person(s) that flagged my comment.It wasn't even that bad and that is exactly what I am talking about… filtering everything so you wont hurt FEELINGS ( Yes… FEELINGS!!!). The sad part is "you guys" are the 1st to cry about transparency.

  • Andrew

    Learning to ignore bullshit…  Yeah, when you’re right, you’re right.  I shouldn’t have responded to your comments in the first place.

  • Jin The Ninja

    it was never about ‘bullying’, having ‘balls, or ‘taking a joke’ or even being overly sensitive. it’s actually about treating people with respect enough that discussion is possible. you don’t have to be emily post or politically correct or the perfect little poster, but you should not engage in emasculating/homophobic name calling- it’s juvenile and regressive.

    “you guys” whom does that mean exactly?

  • Jaymalls

    Where should i send my invoice to???

  • Jin The Ninja

    Your ‘mom’.