U.S. & Israel To Hold Their ‘Largest and Most Significant’ War Games (Video)

Via Press TV:

U.S. Assistant Secretary for Political-Military Affairs Andrew Shapiro says the U.S. and the Israeli regime are set to hold their ‘largest and most significant’ joint military maneuvers without offering details about the time and location of the war games.

More than 5,000 U.S. and Israeli forces will take part in the war drills, said Shapiro, in a Saturday speech at the Israeli-sponsored think tank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP). He reportedly did not mention a specific time and location for what observers have described as part of the new U.S.-led publicity campaign aimed at raising the threat level against Iran.

The joint military maneuver will simulate Israel’s ballistic missile system and will allow Washington to ‘learn from’ Tel Aviv’s experience in warfare, the senior American official added.

More: Press TV

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  • http://buzzcoastin.posterous.com BuzzCoastin

    Bill Hicks:
    “…We’re like the bullies of the world, y’know.
    We’re like Jack Palance in the movie Shane,
    throwing the pistol at the sheepherder’s feet.

    “Pick it up.”

    “I don’t wanna pick it up, Mister, you’ll shoot me.”

    “Pick up the gun.”

    “Mister, I don’t want no trouble.
    I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids,
    some gingham for my wife. I don’t even know what gingham is,
    but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff.
    I ain’t looking for no trouble, Mister.”

    “Pick up the gun.”

    (He picks it up. Three shots ring out.)

    “You all saw him – he had a gun.”

  • BuzzCoastin

    Bill Hicks:
    “…We’re like the bullies of the world, y’know.
    We’re like Jack Palance in the movie Shane,
    throwing the pistol at the sheepherder’s feet.

    “Pick it up.”

    “I don’t wanna pick it up, Mister, you’ll shoot me.”

    “Pick up the gun.”

    “Mister, I don’t want no trouble.
    I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids,
    some gingham for my wife. I don’t even know what gingham is,
    but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff.
    I ain’t looking for no trouble, Mister.”

    “Pick up the gun.”

    (He picks it up. Three shots ring out.)

    “You all saw him – he had a gun.”

    • Big T

      Iran’s supreme leader is about as wacky as they come.  Next time you get a chance to talk to an Iranian who has immigrated to your country, strike up a conversation and ask them about him.  The Grand Ayatollah has been behind the curtain of untold deaths of Muslims, Jews and Westerners.  He is bent on issuing in the Mahdi, establishing the council of 10 assistant Caliphs and taking the fight to the West, Saudi Arabia and Israel.  All of this is Islamic eschatology.  It doesn’t matter if the Quran or Hadith is true or not, it matters that these people think it is true.

      If the contemporary Persian government does this, and has any measure of success, Americans will be demanding military action to stop them.  I wish we could all live in peace, but the real world punishes inaction as we saw with Hitler and the Empirical Japanese of WWII.  Make no mistake, the Gov’t of Iran is just as radical.

      • MoralDrift

        shut up

        • Big T

          Normal response from someone with nothing to say.

      • duh

        First you have to understand that there are some serious factions in the Islamic world. Iran is Shia…..a minority group compared to the predominant Sunni theology. If you think Iran can get away with enforcing any kind of “sharia” law that they have, which is based on Shia interpretation you have another thing coming. Every Sunni will revolt against that. Iran can make any plans they want, ultimately they will be foiled by other Muslims around the world, and their own people, not by the US or by Israel….

        • Big T

          I would recommend Robert Baer’s book “The Devil we Know.”  I can assure you that there is plenty of cooperation between Iranian ideology and Sunni factions, for example:  Taliban is widely known to be one of the most hard line Sunni factions in the world, but they work with closely with Al Quds force and Revolutionary Guard from Iran as we speak!  Hamas and Hezbollah have carried each others flags on a few occasions in Lebanon.  They all unite under a common enemy, this is demonstrated time and time again in recent history and in current events. 

          I see you have some understanding of basic Islam, but it is worth investing the time to understand the complexities of the 1.5 billion strong religious melting pot.  Start off not with the sectarian analysis (Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Arab, Persian, Turk ect.) but with the common goals they all share.  One example of this ideology is the Hizb ut-Tahrir and Muslim Brotherhood.  Note the governments that have tried to persecute these groups and then look at the countries that are having civil unrest right now in the Middle East.  The key into understanding how these two factions relate to Iran is through the figure Navab Safavi.  Don’t be so quick to generalize Islam with such a broad brush.  Hope you take the time to look into these things and I look forward to hearing back from you.

      • duh

        Another great point I have for you. Haven’t you learned anything from
        the Iraq war? Nope. I guess not…from the beginning to end, they said
        “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction! get them!!!!” that’s a preemptive
        war by the way. In the end, they overthrew Hussein, which i don’t
        personally mind, but they destroyed the country as a whole, and look
        where its at. Destroyed to rubble, and the discovery was made that they
        do NOT have weapons of mass destruction.

        Iran, may or may not have nuclear weapons, my guess is that they
        don’t….plus  they have a right to have them just as much as the US
        does, and just as much as Israel, India and N. KOREA–remember cold
        war????–anyway, yeah Iran is part of a world that has nuclear
        capabilities. They should be able to participate, that means there will
        be less likely hood of them being attacked by a opposing force because
        they do have weapons and can retaliate. Do you think that they have
        these weapons? Because if they truly did, then the US and Israel will
        not be making any threats of war whatsoever!  There is a reason we are
        not at war with N. Korea, or with China….bc they have an equal chance
        of “winning”….

        The US wants to attack a country, that probably doesn’t have nuclear
        weapons, to ensure that they don’t get them….SHADY SHADY SHADY! Only
        in America

        • Big T

          How many Kurds from Northern Iraq have you talked to?  Your statement about the condition of the average Iraqi was perhaps true in 2004-2007, but it is a whole different story there now.  The average Shia  Muslim in Iraq is glad that Saddam is gone and considers things better now.  BTW, much of the violence that was occurring throughout the Iraq war was due to IRANIAN influence!

          “…they have a right to have them just as much as the US does..”
          So let’s take your opinion to its logical conclusion.  All nations should have nuclear weapons?  So much for the non proliferation, the most valuable lesson coming out of the cold war.  It’s simple, the more nations with nuclear weapons, the higher the risk that someone will eventually use them…which only needs to happen once.  Your assessment of the control of nuclear weapons, the threat of proliferation and effects of both globally is drastically over simplified.  Do you really think that the danger of nuclear exchange and what should be done about it can be summed up on three sentences?

      • rtb61

        So what was the last great attack upon America. Hmm, 911, funded by Saudi Arabia and Israel had a crew on site to document it and to top if off a bunch of major financial players bet on it happening shorting airline stock.
        US government solution, attack Iraq, billions of dollars disappear into corporate pockets and private for profit intelligence contractors (Israeli companies involved here as well).
        The only thing learnt by the US military industrial complex, hey guys we made big bucks there, where can we attack next and guess who is right in their up to their necks sucking up the US treasury via corrupt lobbyists Israel.
        Those criminals in Israel really have to be laughing at the US government by now, where the next war we can get the idiot goyens to fight for us whilst we strip mine their treasury. There ain’t no government as radical as Israel and no people gullible enough to pay for it but Americans via the lobbyist corrupted government.
         

        • Big T

          I agree on the corruption of lobbyist influence on American gov’t.  I would point the finger more at Saudi Arabia on US strategic influence.  They were way more worried about Saddam then Israel was.  The Bush family was in bed with the royal family as we all know, both Bush presidents attack Saddam’s regime…hmmm.  I am not trying to place a halo over any governments head, I am not so ignorant as to presume that there MUST be a good guy.  This is not a movie, it just might be the case that everyone is a varying degree of bad.  I will settle with doing what we need to in order to ensure our survival against any threats.  I also believe that the United States is trying to work its way out of Saudi influence with green energy and drilling domestically.  Once we are self reliant on these things, Saudi Arabia is in trouble and they know it. 

          Bottom line is, our gov’t is bad, Saudi’s is bad, Israel’s and Iran’s and Russia’s so on.  But since I am an American I vote for my bad guy, and we can work internally to try and make our bad guy better.  In the mean time if Israel wants to bomb Iran and Iran wants to bomb Saudi Arabia and Israel and Saudi Arabia wants to see both Iran and Israel destroyed I say, let them work it out and may the strongest one win.  Lets just be ready if it turns out to be Iran and then they turn to face us with Soviet and Chinese support.

      • howiebledsoe

         Well, jee whiz, Jethro, sounds like a good enough justification to me and go in there and blow the civilian population to smithereens, spark off a possible world war and spend more money that we dont have to send our few remaining war hardened veterans back over to the middle east for the 13th time.

  • Big T

    Iran’s supreme leader is about as wacky as they come.  Next time you get a chance to talk to an Iranian who has immigrated to your country, strike up a conversation and ask them about him.  The Grand Ayatollah has been behind the curtain of untold deaths of Muslims, Jews and Westerners.  He is bent on issuing in the Mahdi, establishing the council of 10 assistant Caliphs and taking the fight to the West, Saudi Arabia and Israel.  All of this is Islamic eschatology.  It doesn’t matter if the Quran or Hadith is true or not, it matters that these people think it is true.

    If the contemporary Persian government does this, and has any measure of success, Americans will be demanding military action to stop them.  I wish we could all live in peace, but the real world punishes inaction as we saw with Hitler and the Empirical Japanese of WWII.  Make no mistake, the Gov’t of Iran is just as radical.

  • Anonymous

    shut up

  • Anonymous

    shut up

  • Dunzain

    Well, with the economy booming in the States, you can afford to start a couple of new wars..

  • Dunzain

    Well, with the economy booming in the States, you can afford to start a couple of new wars..

  • Dunzain

    Well, with the economy booming in the States, you can afford to start a couple of new wars..

  • Dunzain

    Well, with the economy booming in the States, you can afford to start a couple of new wars..

  • Dunzain

    Well, with the economy booming in the States, you can afford to start a couple of new wars..

  • Dunzain

    Well, with the economy booming in the States, you can afford to start a couple of new wars..

    • duh

      The economy actually is booming in the US….America has the best economy, standard of living, and is the most well off then any other country in the world…..It makes you wonder about why people are protesting?

      I know why its just a funny thing the Americans have economic protests, yet have the most money!

      • Todd134

         The U.S. is pretty backwards when it comes to most things that benefit the masses. The health care of the U.S. is ranked at 37th, infant mortality is the highest in the industrialized world, there’s 44 other countries that have more wealth equality than the U.S. (including Iran), the U.S. spends far less for social programs than any other industrialized country, has one of the lowest corporate tax rates for any industrialized country, and wages for the workers have stayed the same since the 1970s and risen dramatically for CEOs. The average CEO makes around 280 times what his workers make. That’s why people are protesting and they have every right too. If you truly care about your country you should want to make it better in every way not let it stagnate and get overtaken by other countries or pretend that we’re still number one regardless of what the facts say.

  • duh

    First you have to understand that there are some serious factions in the Islamic world. Iran is Shia…..a minority group compared to the predominant Sunni theology. If you think Iran can get away with enforcing any kind of “sharia” law that they have, which is based on Shia interpretation you have another thing coming. Every Sunni will revolt against that. Iran can make any plans they want, ultimately they will be foiled by other Muslims around the world, and their own people, not by the US or by Israel….

  • duh

    First you have to understand that there are some serious factions in the Islamic world. Iran is Shia…..a minority group compared to the predominant Sunni theology. If you think Iran can get away with enforcing any kind of “sharia” law that they have, which is based on Shia interpretation you have another thing coming. Every Sunni will revolt against that. Iran can make any plans they want, ultimately they will be foiled by other Muslims around the world, and their own people, not by the US or by Israel….

  • duh

    Another great point I have for you. Haven’t you learned anything from
    the Iraq war? Nope. I guess not…from the beginning to end, they said
    “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction! get them!!!!” that’s a preemptive
    war by the way. In the end, they overthrew Hussein, which i don’t
    personally mind, but they destroyed the country as a whole, and look
    where its at. Destroyed to rubble, and the discovery was made that they
    do NOT have weapons of mass destruction.

    Iran, may or may not have nuclear weapons, my guess is that they
    don’t….plus  they have a right to have them just as much as the US
    does, and just as much as Israel, India and N. KOREA–remember cold
    war????–anyway, yeah Iran is part of a world that has nuclear
    capabilities. They should be able to participate, that means there will
    be less likely hood of them being attacked by a opposing force because
    they do have weapons and can retaliate. Do you think that they have
    these weapons? Because if they truly did, then the US and Israel will
    not be making any threats of war whatsoever!  There is a reason we are
    not at war with N. Korea, or with China….bc they have an equal chance
    of “winning”….

    The US wants to attack a country, that probably doesn’t have nuclear
    weapons, to ensure that they don’t get them….SHADY SHADY SHADY! Only
    in America

  • duh

    Another great point I have for you. Haven’t you learned anything from
    the Iraq war? Nope. I guess not…from the beginning to end, they said
    “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction! get them!!!!” that’s a preemptive
    war by the way. In the end, they overthrew Hussein, which i don’t
    personally mind, but they destroyed the country as a whole, and look
    where its at. Destroyed to rubble, and the discovery was made that they
    do NOT have weapons of mass destruction.

    Iran, may or may not have nuclear weapons, my guess is that they
    don’t….plus  they have a right to have them just as much as the US
    does, and just as much as Israel, India and N. KOREA–remember cold
    war????–anyway, yeah Iran is part of a world that has nuclear
    capabilities. They should be able to participate, that means there will
    be less likely hood of them being attacked by a opposing force because
    they do have weapons and can retaliate. Do you think that they have
    these weapons? Because if they truly did, then the US and Israel will
    not be making any threats of war whatsoever!  There is a reason we are
    not at war with N. Korea, or with China….bc they have an equal chance
    of “winning”….

    The US wants to attack a country, that probably doesn’t have nuclear
    weapons, to ensure that they don’t get them….SHADY SHADY SHADY! Only
    in America

  • duh

    The economy actually is booming in the US….America has the best economy, standard of living, and is the most well off then any other country in the world…..It makes you wonder about why people are protesting?

    I know why its just a funny thing the Americans have economic protests, yet have the most money!

  • duh

    The economy actually is booming in the US….America has the best economy, standard of living, and is the most well off then any other country in the world…..It makes you wonder about why people are protesting?

    I know why its just a funny thing the Americans have economic protests, yet have the most money!

  • Rex Vestri

    It’s DISGUSTING that the US is even giving Israel one stinking DIME. We have our own problems here at home. Screw Israel.

  • Rex Vestri

    It’s DISGUSTING that the US is even giving Israel one stinking DIME. We have our own problems here at home. Screw Israel.

    • Cobradave49

      Rex you’re an idiot, if it were not for Israeli inventions, the US wouldn’t have half the technology that it uses. 

      • Rex Vestri

        …Such as ?

  • Anonymous

    So what was the last great attack upon America. Hmm, 911, funded by Saudi Arabia and Israel had a crew on site to document it and to top if off a bunch of major financial players bet on it happening shorting airline stock.
    US government solution, attack Iraq, billions of dollars disappear into corporate pockets and private for profit intelligence contractors (Israeli companies involved here as well).
    The only thing learnt by the US military industrial complex, hey guys we made big bucks there, where can we attack next and guess who is right in their up to their necks sucking up the US treasury via corrupt lobbyists Israel.
    Those criminals in Israel really have to be laughing at the US government by now, where the next war we can get the idiot goyens to fight for us whilst we strip mine their treasury. There ain’t no government as radical as Israel and no people gullible enough to pay for it but Americans via the lobbyist corrupted government.
     

  • Big T

    How many Kurds from Northern Iraq have you talked to?  Your statement about the condition of the average Iraqi was perhaps true in 2004-2007, but it is a whole different story there now.  The average Shia  Muslim in Iraq is glad that Saddam is gone and considers things better now.  BTW, much of the violence that was occurring throughout the Iraq war was due to IRANIAN influence!

    “…they have a right to have them just as much as the US does..”
    So let’s take your opinion to its logical conclusion.  All nations should have nuclear weapons?  So much for the non proliferation, the most valuable lesson coming out of the cold war.  It’s simple, the more nations with nuclear weapons, the higher the risk that someone will eventually use them…which only needs to happen once.  Your assessment of the control of nuclear weapons, the threat of proliferation and effects of both globally is drastically over simplified.  Do you really think that the danger of nuclear exchange and what should be done about it can be summed up on three sentences?

  • Big T

    How many Kurds from Northern Iraq have you talked to?  Your statement about the condition of the average Iraqi was perhaps true in 2004-2007, but it is a whole different story there now.  The average Shia  Muslim in Iraq is glad that Saddam is gone and considers things better now.  BTW, much of the violence that was occurring throughout the Iraq war was due to IRANIAN influence!

    “…they have a right to have them just as much as the US does..”
    So let’s take your opinion to its logical conclusion.  All nations should have nuclear weapons?  So much for the non proliferation, the most valuable lesson coming out of the cold war.  It’s simple, the more nations with nuclear weapons, the higher the risk that someone will eventually use them…which only needs to happen once.  Your assessment of the control of nuclear weapons, the threat of proliferation and effects of both globally is drastically over simplified.  Do you really think that the danger of nuclear exchange and what should be done about it can be summed up on three sentences?

  • Big T

    I would recommend Robert Baer’s book “The Devil we Know.”  I can assure you that there is plenty of cooperation between Iranian ideology and Sunni factions, for example:  Taliban is widely known to be one of the most hard line Sunni factions in the world, but they work with closely with Al Quds force and Revolutionary Guard from Iran as we speak!  Hamas and Hezbollah have carried each others flags on a few occasions in Lebanon.  They all unite under a common enemy, this is demonstrated time and time again in recent history and in current events. 

    I see you have some understanding of basic Islam, but it is worth investing the time to understand the complexities of the 1.5 billion strong religious melting pot.  Start off not with the sectarian analysis (Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Arab, Persian, Turk ect.) but with the common goals they all share.  One example of this ideology is the Hizb ut-Tahrir and Muslim Brotherhood.  Note the governments that have tried to persecute these groups and then look at the countries that are having civil unrest right now in the Middle East.  The key into understanding how these two factions relate to Iran is through the figure Navab Safavi.  Don’t be so quick to generalize Islam with such a broad brush.  Hope you take the time to look into these things and I look forward to hearing back from you.

  • Big T

    I agree on the corruption of lobbyist influence on American gov’t.  I would point the finger more at Saudi Arabia on US strategic influence.  They were way more worried about Saddam then Israel was.  The Bush family was in bed with the royal family as we all know, both Bush presidents attack Saddam’s regime…hmmm.  I am not trying to place a halo over any governments head, I am not so ignorant as to presume that there MUST be a good guy.  This is not a movie, it just might be the case that everyone is a varying degree of bad.  I will settle with doing what we need to in order to ensure our survival against any threats.  I also believe that the United States is trying to work its way out of Saudi influence with green energy and drilling domestically.  Once we are self reliant on these things, Saudi Arabia is in trouble and they know it. 

    Bottom line is, our gov’t is bad, Saudi’s is bad, Israel’s and Iran’s and Russia’s so on.  But since I am an American I vote for my bad guy, and we can work internally to try and make our bad guy better.  In the mean time if Israel wants to bomb Iran and Iran wants to bomb Saudi Arabia and Israel and Saudi Arabia wants to see both Iran and Israel destroyed I say, let them work it out and may the strongest one win.  Lets just be ready if it turns out to be Iran and then they turn to face us with Soviet and Chinese support.

  • Big T

    Normal response from someone with nothing to say.

  • Cobradave49

    Rex you’re an idiot, if it were not for Israeli inventions, the US wouldn’t have half the technology that it uses. 

  • Cobradave49

    Rex you’re an idiot, if it were not for Israeli inventions, the US wouldn’t have half the technology that it uses. 

  • Todd134

     The U.S. is pretty backwards when it comes to most things that benefit the masses. The health care of the U.S. is ranked at 37th, infant mortality is the highest in the industrialized world, there’s 44 other countries that have more wealth equality than the U.S. (including Iran), the U.S. spends far less for social programs than any other industrialized country, has one of the lowest corporate tax rates for any industrialized country, and wages for the workers have stayed the same since the 1970s and risen dramatically for CEOs. The average CEO makes around 280 times what his workers make. That’s why people are protesting and they have every right too. If you truly care about your country you should want to make it better in every way not let it stagnate and get overtaken by other countries or pretend that we’re still number one regardless of what the facts say.

  • Todd134

     The U.S. is pretty backwards when it comes to most things that benefit the masses. The health care of the U.S. is ranked at 37th, infant mortality is the highest in the industrialized world, there’s 44 other countries that have more wealth equality than the U.S. (including Iran), the U.S. spends far less for social programs than any other industrialized country, has one of the lowest corporate tax rates for any industrialized country, and wages for the workers have stayed the same since the 1970s and risen dramatically for CEOs. The average CEO makes around 280 times what his workers make. That’s why people are protesting and they have every right too. If you truly care about your country you should want to make it better in every way not let it stagnate and get overtaken by other countries or pretend that we’re still number one regardless of what the facts say.

  • Todd134

     The U.S. is pretty backwards when it comes to most things that benefit the masses. The health care of the U.S. is ranked at 37th, infant mortality is the highest in the industrialized world, there’s 44 other countries that have more wealth equality than the U.S. (including Iran), the U.S. spends far less for social programs than any other industrialized country, has one of the lowest corporate tax rates for any industrialized country, and wages for the workers have stayed the same since the 1970s and risen dramatically for CEOs. The average CEO makes around 280 times what his workers make. That’s why people are protesting and they have every right too. If you truly care about your country you should want to make it better in every way not let it stagnate and get overtaken by other countries or pretend that we’re still number one regardless of what the facts say.

  • Rex Vestri

    …Such as ?

  • Anonymous

     Well, jee whiz, Jethro, sounds like a good enough justification to me and go in there and blow the civilian population to smithereens, spark off a possible world war and spend more money that we dont have to send our few remaining war hardened veterans back over to the middle east for the 13th time.

  • newtiffen

    10 likes in 5 months should tell you that you are a screwball.