Ron Paul And The North American Union

North AmericaTalkingpointsmemo dredges up Congressman Paul’s statements regarding the NAFTA Superhighway to paint him as a rabid conspiracy theorist:

Ron Paul denies he has anything to do with the fringe extremism published under his name in a series of newsletters and there’s little in his public rhetoric to link him to many of the most offensive passages. But the conspiracy theories he does talk up personally are plenty eye-opening on their own.

The most notable of recent years has been an elaborate international plot to build a highway connecting the United States, Canada, and Mexico as a prerequisite for creating a combined state, the North American Union, with its own currency.

The above theory — which is entirely fictitious — isn’t some issue at the margins of Paul’s campaign, either, it was a central part of his 2008 platform. He included a section about it on his official candidate website:

“NAFTA’s superhighway is just one part of a plan to erase the borders between the U.S. and Mexico, called the North American Union. This spawn of powerful special interests, would create a single nation out of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, with a new unelected bureaucracy and money system. Forget about controlling immigration under this scheme.”

The NAFTA superhighway has long been a popular icon in conspiracy theory circles, much to the chagrin of various elected officials working on actual unrelated highway issues. Rick Perry caught a lot of heat over his attempt to build a Trans-Texas Corridor from critics who believed it was part of the grand plot, among them Ron Paul, who took to extremist Lew Rockwell’s site to denounce the effort. It got so bad that Perry had to deny the plot in an interview with right-wing news site Human Events in 2006.

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  • SmudgeServices

    looking at Ron Paul’s history, both short term and long term, and his ability to very accurately predict major events and changes, I think the author shouldn’t be so sure of all these ‘no evidence’ claims and negativity putting down Ron Paul so absolutely. Not that one shouldn’t be skeptical of drastic news like this, but I don’t think it should be blown off the table of possibilities with the absoluteness the author uses. I mean, it doesn’t take much looking to find Ron Paul’s accurate predictions of both foreign and economic policy. Economic policy is his specialty, I would think that his history awards him with some credit and cause for deeper investigation. At the very least, an open mind to the possibility in the future.

  • SmudgeServices

    looking at Ron Paul’s history, both short term and long term, and his ability to very accurately predict major events and changes, I think the author shouldn’t be so sure of all these ‘no evidence’ claims and negativity putting down Ron Paul so absolutely. Not that one shouldn’t be skeptical of drastic news like this, but I don’t think it should be blown off the table of possibilities with the absoluteness the author uses. I mean, it doesn’t take much looking to find Ron Paul’s accurate predictions of both foreign and economic policy. Economic policy is his specialty, I would think that his history awards him with some credit and cause for deeper investigation. At the very least, an open mind to the possibility in the future.

    • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      I completely agree.  Also the term “conspiracy” is utilized here as a form of smear regardless of the reality of the insane and immense conspiracies that proliferate through all sectors of society.  Politics an Conspiracy are inextricably linked.  Dr. Paul is a rare voice of reason and forewarning in these dark times.  

    • Jinotegano

      If you click on “denounce” above and read the ‘entire’ piece the last
      two paragraphs clearly state that Ron Paul is AGAINST this “North
      American Union” ans well as the “Highway” this is an attempt to bait and switch by an asshole trying to smear Ron Paul.

  • Anonymous

    I live in Indiana where farms and homes have been divided and taken thru eminent domain to build this non-existent highway. It is I69 in My state but it comes into Indiana from Kentucky and continues north thru Michigan to Canada.

  • ivykid

    I live in Indiana where farms and homes have been divided and taken thru eminent domain to build this non-existent highway. It is I69 in My state but it comes into Indiana from Kentucky and continues north thru Michigan to Canada.

  • Anonymous

    quite fictional http://www.nascocorridor.com/
    and for anybody who thinks the EU sprung up magically overnight there would be the European Economic Community and the European Free Trade Association. 
    Even if talk of North American Union is only a metaphor it effectively demonstrates the level of integration that is occuring logisticaly and extrajudicaly, irregardless if it should ever occur within parlimentary procedure or symbolically.  Many Americans know this and its just pissing in our ears to claim that the macinations of power don’t occur at this level.

  • Calypso_1

    quite fictional http://www.nascocorridor.com/
    and for anybody who thinks the EU sprung up magically overnight there would be the European Economic Community and the European Free Trade Association. 
    Even if talk of North American Union is only a metaphor it effectively demonstrates the level of integration that is occuring logisticaly and extrajudically, irregardless if it should ever occur within parlimentary procedure or symbolically.  Many Americans know this and its just pissing in our ears to claim that the macinations of power don’t occur at this level.

  • Anonymous

    Right on Ron!

    I first started to get suspicious when Canadians started speaking American.  Suck ups.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Right on Ron!

    I first started to get suspicious when Canadians started speaking American.  Suck ups.

    • Sven Schmidt

      …what?

  • Anonymous

    Because it was something was intended but happened to fail, doesn’t mean that Dr. Paul was incorrect in voicing outrage against it.  It’s speaking out like he did that helps to chase off ideas like the NAFTA superhighway.  Hell, there’s been dozens and dozens of articles written about it; Dr. Paul didn’t invent the idea.

  • BigRest

    Because it was something was intended but happened to fail, doesn’t mean that Dr. Paul was incorrect in voicing outrage against it.  It’s speaking out like he did that helps to chase off ideas like the NAFTA superhighway.  Hell, there’s been dozens and dozens of articles written about it; Dr. Paul didn’t invent the idea.

  • No NWO

    The NAU is a very valid concern:

    The NAU was known as the SPP (security & prosperity partnership) but opposition was great so they dropped the name and continued to make agreements behind closed doors …. a few months back they announced they had finalized numerous “agreements” “harmonization” including the ability to use each others police forces in the event local police side with the 99% & the tracking of all individuals

    Harper and Obama ink deal to ease travel, bolster border security
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-and-obama-ink-deal-to-ease-travel-bolster-border-security/article2263468/

    Harper-Obama border plan draws criticism ahead of announcement
    http://canadians.org/blog/?p=12355

  • no NWO thx

    The NAU is a very valid concern:

    The NAU was known as the SPP (security & prosperity partnership) but opposition was great so they dropped the name and continued to make agreements behind closed doors …. a few months back they announced they had finalized numerous “agreements” “harmonization” including the ability to use each others police forces in the event local police side with the 99% & the tracking of all individuals

    Harper and Obama ink deal to ease travel, bolster border security
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-and-obama-ink-deal-to-ease-travel-bolster-border-security/article2263468/

    Harper-Obama border plan draws criticism ahead of announcement
    http://canadians.org/blog/?p=12355

  • Suddenly Spam!

    Looking at Ron Paul’s history, tl;dr, some boring shit nobody cares about, and his ability to mobilize legions of obese aspies on the internet, I think the author should probably go jump off a bridge. Not that one shouldn’t be skeptical of bullshit that nobody cares about, but Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul, Ku Klux Klan, Ron Paul. I mean it doesn’t take much looking to find tl;dr predictions about why am I even wasting my time mocking this neckbeard.

  • Redacted

    Looking at Ron Paul’s history, tl;dr, some boring shit nobody cares about, and his ability to mobilize legions of obese aspies on the internet, I think the author should probably go jump off a bridge. Not that one shouldn’t be skeptical of bullshit that nobody cares about, but Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul, Ku Klux Klan, Ron Paul. I mean it doesn’t take much looking to find tl;dr predictions about why am I even wasting my time mocking this neckbeard.

    • Cheerspricks

      can you ever leave a real, intelligent comment?

      • Redacted

        Can you ever fuck a mammal besides a Dog?

  • Uninsured

    I have to say that I agree with Suddenly Spam’s comment below.  I feel like I would be wasting time even writing a criticism of Ron Paul, except that it might save me time in the future from seeing all this ron paul crap on the otherwise phenomenal disinfo site.  I don’t know why disinfo trusts this politician so much, especially when a few months ago they were posting this: http://disinfo.com/2011/09/ron-pauls-campaign-mastermind-died-of-pneumonia-penniless-and-uninsured/

  • Uninsured

    I have to say that I agree with Suddenly Spam’s comment below.  I feel like I would be wasting time even writing a criticism of Ron Paul, except that it might save me time in the future from seeing all this ron paul crap on the otherwise phenomenal disinfo site.  I don’t know why disinfo trusts this politician so much, especially when a few months ago they were posting this: http://www.disinfo.com/2011/09/ron-pauls-campaign-mastermind-died-of-pneumonia-penniless-and-uninsured/

    • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      Oh right you mean that hit piece.

  • Cheerspricks

    can you ever leave a real, intelligent comment?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tgorethurst Sven Schmidt

    …what?

  • Tio Holtzman

    It’s not about the facts anyway.  It’s about what gets the most airplay. 

  • Tio Holtzman

    It’s not about the facts anyway.  It’s about what gets the most airplay. 

  • Adaugeo

    No matter what anyone speculates about Paul’s views, he has a consistent voting history of ending war, increasing individual liberty and freedom, and federal fiscal conservancy. An honest politician, imagine that. I voted for Obama “hoping for change”. While the option was that or the insane McCain, I’ve never been so disappointed.

    Regardless, look at the honesty of the 2000 election. It gives little hope for anyone not serving the corporate and financial elite of being elected. We NEED Ron Paul to be universally promoted from the people because FOX news and all affiliates will make up whatever they can to continue the expansion of the top <1% wealth.

  • Adaugeo

    No matter what anyone speculates about Paul’s views, he has a consistent voting history of ending war, increasing individual liberty and freedom, and federal fiscal conservancy. An honest politician, imagine that. I voted for Obama “hoping for change”. While the option was that or the insane McCain, I’ve never been so disappointed.

    Regardless, look at the honesty of the 2000 election. It gives little hope for anyone not serving the corporate and financial elite of being elected. We NEED Ron Paul to be universally promoted from the people because FOX news and all affiliates will make up whatever they can to continue the expansion of the top <1% wealth.

  • Camron Wiltshire

    I completely agree.  Also the term “conspiracy” is utilized here as a form of smear regardless of the reality of the insane and immense conspiracies that proliferate through all sectors of society.  Politics an Conspiracy are inextricably linked.  Dr. Paul is a rare voice of reason and forewarning in these dark times.  

  • Camron Wiltshire

    Oh right you mean that hit piece.

  • twotonetwo

    Blahblahblah Ron Paul will lead us out of the darkness. If you’re not convinced that Ron Paul is a nutjob and is probably racist than you’re trying really hard to put the blinders on. Paul isn’t against wars, he’s against non-interference – there is actually a huge difference. He’s against the war on drugs except oops, unless it’s a state decision. Same with abortion and racism.

    Keep on chanting Liberty guys. All this shit Ron Paul predicts is what any extremist and even white nationals have all “predicted”. Some of it even comes true because our country is headed toward fascism and it’s not hard to predict how that can come about. If you think an extremist like Ron Paul is looking out for the people than go right ahead and trade one asshole for another, see how far that’s going to get us. 

  • Anonymous

    Blahblahblah Ron Paul will lead us out of the darkness. If you’re not convinced that Ron Paul is a nutjob and is probably racist than you’re trying really hard to put the blinders on. Paul isn’t against wars, he’s against non-interference – there is actually a huge difference. He’s against the war on drugs except oops, unless it’s a state decision. Same with abortion and racism.

    Keep on chanting Liberty guys. All this shit Ron Paul predicts is what any extremist and even white nationals have all “predicted”. Some of it even comes true because our country is headed toward fascism and it’s not hard to predict how that can come about. If you think an extremist like Ron Paul is looking out for the people than go right ahead and trade one asshole for another, see how far that’s going to get us. 

  • Anonymous

    Blahblahblah Ron Paul will lead us out of the darkness. If you’re not convinced that Ron Paul is a nutjob and is probably racist than you’re trying really hard to put the blinders on. Paul isn’t against wars, he’s against non-interference – there is actually a huge difference. He’s against the war on drugs except oops, unless it’s a state decision. Same with abortion and racism.

    Keep on chanting Liberty guys. All this shit Ron Paul predicts is what any extremist and even white nationals have all “predicted”. Some of it even comes true because our country is headed toward fascism and it’s not hard to predict how that can come about. If you think an extremist like Ron Paul is looking out for the people than go right ahead and trade one asshole for another, see how far that’s going to get us. 

  • Anonymous

    Blahblahblah Ron Paul will lead us out of the darkness. If you’re not convinced that Ron Paul is a nutjob and is probably racist than you’re trying really hard to put the blinders on. Paul isn’t against wars, he’s against non-interference – there is actually a huge difference. He’s against the war on drugs except oops, unless it’s a state decision. Same with abortion and racism.

    Keep on chanting Liberty guys. All this shit Ron Paul predicts is what any extremist and even white nationals have all “predicted”. Some of it even comes true because our country is headed toward fascism and it’s not hard to predict how that can come about. If you think an extremist like Ron Paul is looking out for the people than go right ahead and trade one asshole for another, see how far that’s going to get us. 

  • Anonymous

    Blahblahblah Ron Paul will lead us out of the darkness. If you’re not convinced that Ron Paul is a nutjob and is probably racist than you’re trying really hard to put the blinders on. Paul isn’t against wars, he’s against non-interference – there is actually a huge difference. He’s against the war on drugs except oops, unless it’s a state decision. Same with abortion and racism.

    Keep on chanting Liberty guys. All this shit Ron Paul predicts is what any extremist and even white nationals have all “predicted”. Some of it even comes true because our country is headed toward fascism and it’s not hard to predict how that can come about. If you think an extremist like Ron Paul is looking out for the people than go right ahead and trade one asshole for another, see how far that’s going to get us. 

  • Didly Squat

    What’s so crazy about that? They are doing it in the EU.

  • Didly Squat

    What’s so crazy about that? They are doing it in the EU.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, we’ve all had a lot of fun at Mr. Paul’s expense.  He’s generous like that.

    But seriously, why do we call it a “conspiracy” today when it was merely national policy back during the U.S.’s founding?  Remember Benjamin Franklin’s mission to Quebec?

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/20086535

    Yes, we ALL have more than enough problems making our individual political settlements work.  But the most urgent crisis in that regard is the need to destroy the unchecked, malignant influence of amoral multinational corporations, not cross-border cooperation among popularly elected governments.  The issue is that governments are acting in the private interests of Big Capital, not constituent voters.

  • Liam_McGonagle

    Okay, we’ve all had a lot of fun at Mr. Paul’s expense.  He’s generous like that.

    But seriously, why do we call it a “conspiracy” today when it was merely national policy back during the U.S.’s founding?  Remember Benjamin Franklin’s mission to Quebec?

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/20086535

    Yes, we ALL have more than enough problems making our individual political settlements work.  But the most urgent crisis in that regard is the need to destroy the unchecked, malignant influence of amoral multinational corporations, not cross-border cooperation among popularly elected governments.  The issue is that governments are acting in the private interests of Big Capital, not constituent voters.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, we’ve all had a lot of fun at Mr. Paul’s expense.  He’s generous like that.

    But seriously, why do we call it a “conspiracy” today when it was merely national policy back during the U.S.’s founding?  Remember Benjamin Franklin’s mission to Quebec?

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/20086535

    Yes, we ALL have more than enough problems making our individual political settlements work.  But the most urgent crisis in that regard is the need to destroy the unchecked, malignant influence of amoral multinational corporations, not cross-border cooperation among popularly elected governments.  The issue is that governments are acting in the private interests of Big Capital, not constituent voters.

  • Jinotegano

    If you click on “denounce” above and read the ‘entire’ piece the last
    two paragraphs clearly state that Ron Paul is AGAINST this “North
    American Union” ans well as the “Highway” this is an attempt to bait and switch by an asshole trying to smear Ron Paul.

  • Suddenly Spam!

    Can you ever fuck a mammal besides a Dog?

  • Jeff Perkins

    Funny how HR ? during G. Bush 8 year presidency, told him to stop talking about joining the 3 country’s together and specifically stated by name “North American Union”.  Seems like this site needs to stop believe their own propaganda.
     http://www.tldm.org/News10/ResolutionOpposesNorthAmericanUnion.htm is more recent House Concurrent Resolution
    Here is link to HR 387
    http://www.thomas.gov/home/gpoxmlc109/hc487_ih.xml
    Seems Thomas has the goods.  This is no theory.  Remember a “conspiracy” is something that’s illegal.  THIS IS TREASON for those in office we elect.
    Expressing the sense of Congress
    that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North
    American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a
    North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    September 28, 2006

  • Jeff Perkins

    Funny how HR ? during G. Bush 8 year presidency, told him to stop talking about joining the 3 country’s together and specifically stated by name “North American Union”.  Seems like this site needs to stop believe their own propaganda.
     http://www.tldm.org/News10/ResolutionOpposesNorthAmericanUnion.htm is more recent House Concurrent Resolution
    Here is link to HR 387
    http://www.thomas.gov/home/gpoxmlc109/hc487_ih.xml
    Seems Thomas has the goods.  This is no theory.  Remember a “conspiracy” is something that’s illegal.  THIS IS TREASON for those in office we elect.
    Expressing the sense of Congress
    that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North
    American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a
    North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    September 28, 2006

  • Alex

    Nice disinformation info you’ve got going here. Clear wording too, “the north American treaty” is fictitious, or just the prerequisite highway, couldn’t tell. Seems like you’re trying to say that the north American treaty is fictitious, which it most certainly is not. Also I like your use of the word conspiracy theory, it’s a very neutral word.