Atheist Girl In Rhode Island Faces Stream Of Death Threats

By on January 31, 2012 in News 299

Jessica Ahlquist is a 16-year-old self-described nerd who has garnered nationwide attention after successfully suing to have a giant banner emblazoned with an official school prayer removed from the auditorium of her public high school in Cranston, Rhode Island. The response has demonstrated the limits of Christian love — she has basically become the villain of her entire city, with her state representative, Peter Palumbo, called Jessica an “evil little thing” on the radio, and a sample of the online outpouring of hatred from other Cranston residents can be seen on JesusFetusFajitaFishsticks:

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  • Ceausescu

    RIGHT FUCKING ON !

    SHE’S SO FUCKING LUCKY. I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD TRY TO HARASS ME IN REAL LIFE FOR BEING AN ATHEIST/AGNOSTIC W/E

    YES, I KNOW I’M THE MACHO ( #4 I think )

    FIRST POST TROLOLOLO

  • Anarchy Pony

    Your religion was invented by patriarchal desert goat & sheep herders(hence all the crap about shepherds and flocks and lambs and whatnot), get over yourselves and your make believe authoritarian sky father, and his do nothing abuse enabler son. 

    • John Brown

      I agree with you Anarchy Pony… but actually Jesus would probably be down with some black bloc action molotoving shit. Remember the tax collectors in the temple and all that whip action? Hells yeah. Abuse enabler I think not. It’s called liberation theology. It’s called the Zapatistas…. Or you know, motherfuckin’ John Brown who was religiously motivated to kill racist bastards, free their slaves and start a revolt

      • http://www.facebook.com/cees.timmerman Cees Timmerman

        Wait, wasn’t he loyal to some commandment against murder? I guess he must’ve saved lives in the end.

  • Heath

    ahhh yes, takes me back to high school. Admitting I hated football and baseball wasn’t possibly the smartest thing I ever did. However on that reflection she can stand tall knowing that she is a national outcast and will more likely be better off not standing with the mindless followers.

  • Redacted

    For people who claim to preach love they sure do hate. It’s almost as if Christianity were some sort of revenge fantasy, but that would be ridiculous right?

    • Gallente

      Holy… Wow. I don’t know what to say… At first I’m just trolololoing along on stumble, start reading the comments on some random post, and who do I see?

      Motherfucking Tibus Heth! Go suck the State off you fascist pig!

      Long live the Federation!

  • Mr Willow

    Remember this the next time somebody says Christians are being persecuted. 

    • Calypso_1

      They were, their sign got taken down – that’s why His banner over them is no longer Love.

      • Mr Willow

        Oh, that’s right. 

        I forgot the refusal to treat Christianity as the state religion was equivalent to persecution. 

        • Calypso_1

          I wonder what these sort of christians would feel like if they had to go to a school where Adhan was called by a muezzin everyday – before football games too.

        • Calypso_1

          Fortunately treating it like it is allows equitable prosecution.

    • Chesne17

      It is pointless to attempt to reason with religious zealots of any religion, including atheists.

      • http://twitter.com/FlyingFree333 Flying Free

         Consider buying a dictionary before speaking in public. Atheism is the LACK of belief in gods therefore CANNOT be a religion.

        • RequiemDogma

          A religion does not necessitate the existence of a god, just a fundamental set of beliefs or dogma.

          • Eric_D_Read

            To argue that position, you’d half to concede that ANY belief system (capitalism, socialism, nihilism, etc) is a religion; which severely waters down the meaning of the word.

          • http://www.facebook.com/cees.timmerman Cees Timmerman

            Religion is a fanclub of masochists.

          • Server

             Waters down, perhaps.  It is often how it is approached in academic study, however.  Civic religion, for instance, describes the various rituals, symbols, etc that a nation engages in (think Fourth of July fireworks, legends of the Founding Fathers, Thanksgiving, Superbowl Sunday).  Fact of the matter is, religion is not the problem; it is more like an inescapable fact of human, or at least social, activity.  What IS the problem is tendency away from doubt toward faith.  I don’t mind people who THINK God exists…it’s those that KNOW he does, and what more, what he WANTS that are a bit more troublesome.  The body of Scientific “knowledge” is based almost entirely on theories, and likewise, I’m quite okay with people theorizing about divinity (I personally find conventional physical sciences to often be more productive, but hey, not everyone is going to go be a biologist).

          • HernanM

            Um.. nope.. definitely needs a god matey, sorry.
            You got no GOD?  make one up, or read a traditional Fairy tale and convince everyone it is true. There you go, now that woudl be a religion.
            Meanwhile.. no god?.. no religion, apologies for being a party pooper.

        • John Brown

          Modern atheism inherited a great deal from French existentialism which was HEAVILY indebted to the Christian existentialist Soren Kierkegaard. Many have commented that Jean-Paul Sartre’s existentialism simply replaced God with notions of Being and Nothingness. Critics note that he didn’t completely nullify the traces and many gaps in his theory point to this.

          • Micah Dylan

            i am a “modern atheist” & i didn’t inherit anything from French existentialism or Soren Kierkegaard … i give a damn about Jean-Paul Sartre’s existentialism or what ‘many’ have commented on it … I also don’t give a hoot about notions of being & nothingness … “modern atheism” as you call it is such a goofy word, you seem to have this idea that we are a cohesive group, with meetings & brochures

            atheism is simply people with enough common sense to speak plainly about plain things rather than pretend that nonsense mythological concepts are real

            another word for atheist is freethinker …  & to be one you must have the intellectual integrity to recognize that things COMPLETELY MADE UP by humans are completely made up

            synonyms for “completely made up”
            imaginary
            fantasy
            make-believe
            not real
            tooth-fairy

          • HernanM

            ..and Santy

          • Server

             Wait, you didn’t get your copy of the Brochure?  Ugh, the secretary in the office at the Bureau of Atheist Affairs must have been off having pan-sexual orgies while indulging in Class A drugs and slaughtering children again…  We’ll make sure to get that mailed out to you when she gets back in.

          • Lmnop_nis

            I’m an atheist, and I approve this message.

          • Server

             Doesn’t the Bible itself start out, “In the beginning there was NOTHING”…?  Sure, it continues on to say something along the lines of “and then God said…”, but never quite explains how it went from Nothing existing to God existing.  Interestingly, if we look at Hebrew Qabalah, the 3 negative veils that the Tree of Life (representing all existence) is drawn in are called (in order from most inner to the outermost), Ain Soph Aur (Limitless Light), Ain Soph (Limitlessness), and Ain (Nothing).  So, is it really quite that crazy to equate God with Nothingness, and recognize that perhaps, just maybe, primitive humans (and indeed, many modern humans) would come up with stories of a personified God simply out of not really being able to grasp the ontological significance of Nothingness and Existence?  Seems to be written right into Hebrew mysticism and the scriptures themselves to those who have eyes to see.

        • http://twitter.com/Omniverse9 JahSun

          Actually, Atheism is the BELIEF that there is NO G*d.  This differs from the lack of belief you speak of.  What you describe is known as agnosticism or even apatheism.  Atheism is a belief that can not be proven any more than theism can (outside of personal revelation or whatever).

          • iman

            Atheist opinions are based only on facts. If it’s real and proven then an atheist accepts it, if it’s not real or proven then they don’t accept it.  An atheist would quickly become a theist if a diety presented itself and could be proven real beyond a shadow of a doubt.  Since atheists believe only in facts then the argument of “atheism is a belief that cannot be proven any more than theist can” is invalid because the existence of god(s) have not been proven.

          • madison34

            Why do they care though if they think it is not real anyway? Do they request Santa and the Easter bunny to be taken out of stores during the holidays?

          • Iman

            The reason an atheist cares is because it’s not right to teach our children to devote their lives to a book/bible(of any religion) that has little relevance to modern society. Santa, Easter Bunny, Toothfairy…etc are part of our culture, as is God. The idea is harmless, fun, and pretty cool to a growing child. A child eventually figures out these characters and shares the experience when they have children. So keep them in stores to spark the imagination. The problem with religion is it’s taught as the “truth” when, in fact, no one really knows and will ever know. Teaching “God” as the truth is very questionable whereas teaching about Santa, Easter Bunny, is just to make occasion more enjoyable for the impressionable young minds. Believe it or not……. you were taught to believe, it’s up to you to ask if what you were taught is real or not. You have to get over that giant hurdle of the 1st Commandment(Holy Bible) to even begin discovering how awesome life really is, and how amazing our universe is!

          • Iman

            ……assuming you believe in God or fairy tales.

          • Always Question

            I never lied to my children about God, Santa, the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy. I explained to them that none of these have been proven. I allowed them to make their own decisions. We played the games, sure. (Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Santa). But they knew they were games. And they went to Sunday school when they chose to. I never forced them, but surely never stopped them. I encouraged their exploration. I taught them to question.They did their own research, and decided for themselves what to believe.

          • UnionJackJamesBond

            “Thou shalt not kill.” Sounds pretty relevant to me. Another thing as well that could be relevant to today (and is something that isn’t said by too many groups aside from religious ones and family groups) is that you are not supposed to have affairs. That is relevant because it can break up families and cause children a great deal of hardship in their most critical point of growing. Also, the reason God is taught as “the truth” is because most of us Christians (or at least myself and a few others) have had personal experiences that prove God. However, that proof is still only viable evidence to the individual that experiences it. So you are half right, we cannot prove God to everyone, but we can prove him to ourselves (or rather he can prove himself to us). Also, believing in God does not mean you can’t enjoy the universe. I love the universe, and I believe in God, and I have an insatiable hunger for knowledge and learning! God isn’t some blindfold that keeps me from seeing or knowing anything, but rather a microscope that helps me to discern and research things, and that, in my opinion, is beautiful. For a person to love their God(s) and to use him (or her, or them) as a filtering technique for knowledge, so to speak, makes things more interesting and can even be helpful in understanding the impossible (depending on its findings, the Hadron collidor  is a prime example).  

          • Micah Dylan

             so what of the belief that there is no tooth-fairy? it cannot be proven that there is no tooth-fairy any more than it can be proven that there is a tooth-fairy (outside of personal revelation or whatever)

            you know what you call someone who believes in the tooth-fairy?
            a child

            you know what you call someone who doesn’t?
            an adult

            perhaps the same definition could be applied to those who believe or disbelieve in the existence of “god”

          • madison34

            I am an adult and I believe in the tooth fairy.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobbie-Jean-Pentecost/100000391760333 Bobbie Jean Pentecost

            Atheism is not necessarily a believe that there is no god, it is a lack of belief in god. There is a subtle difference there. The first on is a positive assertion that there is no god. The second is a lack of belief.

          • Eric_D_Read

            Nice try, but no.

            Theism: the belief in a god or gods.

            Atheism: the lack of belief in a god or gods.

            Agnosticism: the belief that it is impossible to know whether or not a god or gods exist.

            Theoretically, one could simultaneously be an Atheist and an Agnostic. I suppose one could even be a Theist and an Agnostic as well, but I doubt such a person would be very popular at meetings.

          • G.R. Ramirez

            I’m an Agnostic theist. And yeah, we are a very rare kind. But I’m mostly not popular with some hardcore Christians for saying basic things such as “marriage should be about love, not about whether the couple can conceive” or “Abraham lacked any real morality; stop praising him for being willing to kill his child”.

          • http://twitter.com/Omniverse9 JahSun

            No trying involved.  
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism  You obviously use the “implicit” definition of Atheism.  There are many others (including the more widespread explicit and narrow definitions).

            At any rate, the Atheists who tend to shout about their belief are not shouting about their lack of a belief.  They are convinced there is no such thing as a deity.  People tend to not get riled up over things they lack any belief in.  Disbelief is a belief.  Period.

      • Micah Dylan

         yea atheism is such a fucking religion man i hear you on that .. like today i went to atheist church, we sang a bunch of songs about not believing in imaginary fairy tales & how great it feels to be an atheist, then a preacher got up & brainwashed us with a bunch of atheist dogma … later i am going to see my atheist guru he’s gonna teach me all about how Santa Claus & God are basically the same thing except nobody has ever killed anybody over Santa Claus … i’m not sure why that is i will have to ask my guru & get back to you … we are so fucking zealous man

      • Wyldkardd

        calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color

  • D3

    they’re just jealous that she isn’t destine to live a hell on earth like they are.

  • Celladyce

    Gods don’t kill people, people with gods kill people. 

    • Anomaly_of_Anomie

      People without gods kill people too.  

      • http://twitter.com/FlyingFree333 Flying Free

         Atheists don’t kill in the name of religion, don’t stone women to death, don’t burn witches, don’t commit genocides, don’t fly planes into buildings, don’t strap bombs to their chests, don’t bomb clinics, don’t execute doctors and scientists, don’t have rape victims whipped to death for adultery and DON’T THREATEN TEENAGE GIRLS WITH RAPE FOR STANDING UP FOR THE LAW!

        • John Brown

          Don’t commit genocides? Ever heard of Pol Pot, Mao Zedong or Josef Stalin? Don’t let this devolve into an atheist vs. theist. The bigger issue is fundamentalists and extremism here. I think if the J man (Jesus) existed today he would probably be an atheist vegan transgender POC. That being said, most people are idiots and hypocrites so it follows that most people who follow religion are idiots and hypocrites.

          PS You outline all of the negative aspects of religion but without the inspiration of religion most art, architecture, music and cultural advancements WOULD NOT EXIST. Remember the abolitionist movement? Heavily tied into religious views of equality as well. For every negative position on religion there is a countering one.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496741493 Troy Byrne

            perhaps but without the Dark Ages imagine where we could be?

          • Hi

            we could have a base on the moon by now

          • Effzee

            Those atheists didn’t kill in the name of atheism.

          • BrianApocalypse

             Most religions have an immense list of negative aspects, but they have of course inspired positive things, as you say.

            However, it seems to me that that time has passed. The era when religions were any kind of force for good has long gone and pretty much the only outcome of organized religion these days is hatred and violence.

            Perhaps, the kind of people who have it within them to create great things today have moved on, and the only type of people left for religion are the flotsam.

          • Devon Gronka

            What about, for instance, the Buddhist monks who have stood up against the military authoritative rule in Burma?  or the To Write Love on Her Arms movement?  or the hundreds of relief efforts, aid programs, etc that are lead by churches?

          • BrianApocalypse

             Is buddism really a religion though? I would say, certainly not in the same sense that Christianity or Islam is.

            Yes, there are relief efforts organized by churches, but they also waste huge sums of money that could be better used by doing things like flying bibles in to disaster zones.

            I have known a few people involved with christian aid organizations, and I can not deny they helped people. However, there was always a hidden agenda to what they were doing, namely the prospect of converting the downtrodden.

            Having said that, I am sure there are some genuine christians who really are good people. I just wish there were more of them.

          • Devon Gronka

            Buddhism is a religion, especially dealing with more traditional Buddhism; there is a mythology and a belief system and a messiah figure and all sorts of codes and dogma and rituals to follow.  A lot of modern people take the concepts behind it without the dogma and mythology, so I guess in that sense it often isn’t really a religion and more a way of looking at the world.

            I went to a heavily christian affiliated college; yes, a lot of people are more interested in converting people, but there are also a lot who just want to help with no ulterior motive.  I think people tend to notice the ones always trying to change people because they get more attention, as opposed to the person who just does what they can to help and leaves it at that.

            I wish there were more good people period.  =P

          • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

            Religions are the penultimate worldviews of people, just because it does not end with the abrahammic view of god, does not make it not a religion (this is the same argument I’d use to call atheism a religion). So yes its not a religion in the same way, but that does not mean it is not a religion.

          • Val Lindsay

            So you’re saying that because an athiest can commit genocide excuses someone of an organized religion to do the same. Because from what I can see in history, they perfected it…

          • Andrew

             Anything Satan can do, God can do better!

          • Val Lindsay

             Except play Slayer. If god listens to Slayer, I’m there. Though I might go into the pit…

          • God Him Self

            ”
            inspiration of religion most art, architecture, music and cultural advancements WOULD NOT EXIST” That’s about the most ignorant statement I have ever herd.

          • guest

            Hmmm….all the NON christian, NON judeo-islamic-jewish faiths DID advance civilization, explore and expand the arts, created wondrous cities, etc……until the “religious” invaded and destroyed it all in the name of their god.  Oh….wait…they were all pagans so they are devil worshipers so don’t count and deserved the horrid deaths most of them received.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kristi-Stargazer-Lily-De-Seve/1300653066 Kristi Stargazer-Lily De Seve

             and don’t forget that at one time if you DIDN’T believe in g-d you were hung, or burned at the stake as a heretic.  “cake or death?  eh, cake please.”  ~eddie izzard

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U5Q5BLUWI5WSELWS3FU7P4WC3M Joseph

             woah woah woah, you are far fetched saying: “the inspiration of religion most art, architecture, music and cultural advancements WOULD NOT EXIST.” without religion. i mean, jeeze just read a book or something i could explain for hours how youre wrong on so many levels. for example, much of our “cultural advancements” came from ancient philosophers who were for the most part frowned upon for having deviating beliefs from the religion of the state.and i would go on to point out some people who were either atheist or for the most part not in favor of religion: aristotle, thomas jefferson, sigmund freud, albert einstein, mark twain (speaking of culture), john adams, and many more. but you have me on architecture though, temples cathedrals and whatnot: you win there.

          • Jin The Ninja

            well, if you’re interested in the western academic view, while art is certainly not dependent on the religious instititutions of the western world, for a large part of european history, it certainly was bolstered and supported by the Church. visual art and architecture (as you mentioned) most assuredly. the movable type printing press- although the history of which was demonstrably linked to subversive (heretical, protestant, scientific) movements, was very much linked to the spread of christian dogma throughout europe and the world, as the bible was translated into local languages from latin and greek. almost all notable french, dutch, italian and german painters of the renaissance utilised biblical iconography or painted mythological biblical scenes. i’m not christian, but you can’t discuss european history, and particularly western art history without mentioning the church, and you certainly cannot read that history from a modern atheist context.

          • Server

            “but you have me on architecture though, temples cathedrals and whatnot: you win there.”

            Not necessarily.  In many cases, the people who built the cathedrals, while being forced to maintain an outward appearance of maintaining Christendom, often threw in clues as to their real thought systems.  A good book that may help expand on this is “Le Mystere des Cathedrales” (yes, it has that title, even for the English translation) by Fulcanelli, which goes into the alchemical keys that can be spotted in careful study of the cathedrals in France. 

            Not solid proof that they were thus made by atheists by any means (very likely, actually, is that they were deists, much like the majority of the founding father Freemasons of this country).  Just saying it may not be prudent to jump to the conclusion that they actually must have been the product of Christians.  Of course, it IS true that without Christianity we wouldn’t have those SPECIFIC buildings, because, obviously, they were originally funded and demanded by the Catholic Church.

            Minutiae, perhaps.

        • Anomaly_of_Anomie

          Religion is an attempt by man to understand the Divine. Those acts are horrible crimes committed in the name of god only. Atheists are just angry little bitches sucking off the cock of almighty Science, the shameless destroyer of Nature and Spirit. Get a life motherfucker.

          • Effzee

            You haven’t proved or even defined what divine is so what I read in your first sentence is “Religion is an attempt by man to understand nothing.”

          • http://hormeticminds.blogspot.com/ Chaorder Gradient

            “if i don’t understand how to conceptualize something, it must be nothing”

            defining/proving it requires a different language(one of mindset, not of words) that you do not speak.

          • Butter Knife

             You haven’t proved or defined what “proved” or “defined” mean, so from there your whole post falls apart.

            If you want to argue against something, then do it. Don’t make up bullshit rules and standards that nobody else has followed, were never articulated and aren’t even remotely close to being an expected facet of discourse.

            Maybe if the word “divine” were some sort of jargon or obscure concept, you’d have something approaching a point, but it’s a word that has been in common use for, literally, about a thousand years. It’s hardly his fault if you don’t know what it means.

          • Birdforgreatness

            the Divine was a 17 century name for the sun coming up.  ”sucking of the cock of science” im sure the god you love , really loved you saying that, you should go to church. “the destroyer of nature” this you could be true to, and i also some what agree. but science has also proved god is not needed as we explain more that a church can. 

          • Absinthenymph

            yes, because it’s the scientists who say that it doesn’t matter what we do with this planet since it was made for us and we’re all going to be raptured soon anyway…

          • Devon Gronka

            Awwww.  He’s so angry.  Isn’t that cute.

          • BrianApocalypse

             I suggest you stop sucking on the cock of science and stop using computers.

          • Micah Dylan

            i second that emotion

          • Val Lindsay

            Hmm, your argument is quite full of shit, you know that? Religion isn’t an attempt to understand, it’s a set of rules set forth by a particular god. If it was an attempt to understand, all religions would embrace each other, trying to understand one another. Science? We’ve got rules too. Like gravity, inertia, heat. We can tell you where these things come from. So go back to that place where religion says that god illuminates the moon, not the sun…

          • Micah Dylan

              man there’s nothing better than a big fat cock of science mmm yummy

            Do you prefer the cock of god? satan? … maybe jesus? … i’ve heard jesus’ second cumming is quite the thing …

            but yea it’s the ole cock of science for me nothing better … i like how science gives us things, like computers, & knowledge & shit ya know?

          • Micah Dylan

             also i noticed by the energy of your post how remarkably in tune you are with “The Divine” … you little Nature Spirit you … to hell with all those angry little bitch atheist who be hatin’ on you cuz they ain’t in touch with the Divine Nature Fairy like you are they should go suck on that cock of science & feel shame for not being a Divine Nature Fairy & for not abstaining from that ole evil Science like you do

          • Hellfire7885

             Unplug your computer, take your home off the grid, stop using motor vehicles, cease going to see a doctor for any reason, if you use glasses smash them into the ground, demolish your house, go live in a cave, cease eating….

            All that you enjoy, including the ability to come and post that ,were brought on by science.

            So in your own words, stop sucking the cock of almighty science and go live in a cave.

          • Bvvvvvvvv

             Science doesn’t have a cock.
            Get a life motherfucker.

        • Devon Gronka

          Ummmmm… Wasn’t Joseph Stalin an atheist?  How about Mao?  They all committed genocide, had educated people executed, killed millions, etc.

          I’m just saying, there are awful people on both sides.  Get some correct information, buddy.

          • fsm12321

            It’s more important to note that, in those cases, genocide wasn’t committed in the name of atheism, it just happened to be committed by atheists. Hitler and Stalin both had moustaches, does that mean that they committed genocide in the name of moustaches? Didn’t think so.

          • http://twitter.com/Omniverse9 JahSun

            Well, the Cultural Revolution and the suppression of religion in Communist countries could be considered a state enforcement of atheism… thus, some of the genocides that ensued could be considered to be committed in its name.

            China is still persecuting certain religious groups like Falun Gong and the Tibetan Buddhists.

            This is a more nuanced argument than the classic religious vs. atheists being terrible people diatribe.  Many humans of many worldviews behave in abhorrent and misanthropic ways.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobbie-Jean-Pentecost/100000391760333 Bobbie Jean Pentecost

            They weren’t repressing religion in favor of atheism, they were repressing religion (especially Stalin) because they saw it as competition to their own whacked out political ideologies.

          • Riley Rifle

             ^THIS

          • HernanM

            Just a clarification there – Communism/Socialism has nothing to do with Atheism, it’s not written in Marx’s Communist Manifesto at least, that was a bonus added by American politcal actors during the cold war to get the god fearing zombies to beat the Satan drum against Communism with an emphasis, but being a Communist does not automatically qualify you as an Atheist.
            As if Russians and all the Soviet region countries weren’t/ aren’t a deeply religious people. Hell, they are just as backwards as Catholics in the western world.
            The difference is that little Stalin and friends believed it was like the Opiate that makes people retarded. I too share that view, but not because Stalin said it… I would not shake the dead man’s hand even if he reached out from the grave asking for a light, but I get his point, not being a commy myself.

          • http://twitter.com/Omniverse9 JahSun

            Stalin & Mao weren’t Marxists… but they were Atheists.  Semantic wrangling doesn’t change the fact that they imposed Atheism on their people at the barrel of a gun.

            Why people who appreciate Socialism and/or Atheism would see fit to defend Stalinism or Maoism beats the hell out of me.  

          • Lmnop_nis

            I would like to commit genocide in the name of moustaches. Moustaches and Dr.Pepper.

        • Tuna Ghost

          actually, atheists do all of those things as well.  Religion is not the common factor there, ace

          • Bvvvvvvvv

             Yes, people with no religion kill in the name of their religion

          • btchplz

             True. But we didn’t build them into the policies of an institution like the church. Atheists don’t do these kinds of things systematically, like Christians did and probably would do again if given the chance.

        • madison34

          Are they still stoning women?

        • Nielsontm

          Have you ever read the Word of God? Christians do not kill in the name of religion. We do not stone women to death, nor do we burn witches. Their are people who taint our name with terrible words, but we are taught not to do such things.

          • Riley Rifle

             Umm, Christians do and/or did… Because that’s what the bible says to do. I think YOU haven’t read the word of “God”. (And don’t even try to pull that the old testament doesn’t count shit.)

        • UnionJackJamesBond

          Funny, because none of the Christians, Muslims, Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses, or pagan’s I’ve met have done those things either. And for the record, some atheists HAVE done those things, but instead they did it for money, power, “the revolution”, “the protection of the White Race”, and pure insane pleasure. So yeah, maybe no atheists have killed in the name of religion, but when I think about people like Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, or Clifford Richard Olsen, I tend to overlook the “religious nuts”. Also, like I said, I’m a Christian myself and I’ve never even said “I’m raping!” while playing Call of Duty or something, never mind threatening an atheist with that. Most of my friends are actually atheist or agnostic, so I don’t really care that they don’t believe the same thing as me.

          PS. If your going to try and prove that religious people are bigots, you need to stop being a bigot.

          PPS. The Communists have killed approximately 114 million people since Lenin first came to power and up until USSR fell I believe. How many have religious people killed in the last century?

          • Hi

            Thousands, millions?

    • RequiemDogma

      God doesn’t separate people, religion separates people.

      • Redacted

        God comes to each person as each person can understand.

        • Sean

          Good way of saying nothing. 

        • Snowflake Meow

           WRONG!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/cees.timmerman Cees Timmerman

        Which religion made Noah get on that boat?

        • madison34

          Noah was before Christ so that would be the religion of God.

          • marvin nubwaxer

             let me guess:  judaeism?

        • Mutt

          Worship of the Lonely Island

        • UnionJackJamesBond

          One might say Judaeism, but there were no organized religions or faiths at that time, so you’d pretty much just say he had faith in God and did what God told him to do. There was no Bible or Holy Book (as far as we know), so Noah technically didn’t follow a religion.

      • Alex a

        I think people forget what this whole site is about. It’s about showing disinfo that is spread across the media. Inorder to know what the disinfo is advocating one must first know the truth, only then one can ignore the information being presented to them by the media. This example shows disinfo of persecuting the christian faith, showing people who are obviously not Christian and writing about Christians as if those specific individuals represent them. The disinfo that they’re spreading here is to discredit the christian faith. While supporting the athiest faith. The truth behind this disinfo is the Christian faith.

        • Val Lindsay

          The problem for you is athiesm hasn’t attempted to put doctrine in schools. Maybe they’re just showing the disinfo that people try to spread that A) This is a christian country, under its own brand of sharia law or B) that christians are on the whole good. I’ve never met an athiest that wanted any more than to be left alone while I’ve met several xians ready to kill in their god’s name. Name a war that was started in the name of athiesm and I will name 10 in the name of god. The list goes on and on. Go back to your Santorum and tel him we said “NO!”…

          • Monsteman1960

             The truth is, all the wars begun in the name God pale next to the destruction of those begun by the godless; yes, the atheist drones, who, while professing superiority of mind and purpose, are responsible for a 100 times the death and suffering versus anything religious. You’re part and parcel of your own deception.

          • ManWhoLovesIrony

             And, of course, you don’t have any facts or evidence to back this up. Great job on your mindless rhetoric!

          • Riley Rifle

             Yes. Really? If atheists are responsible for one hundred times the death and suffering of religion then surely you can provide some examples. (And please no state-mandated “atheist” countries, as they really aren’t atheists just cults of personality-type cults.)

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alexander-Cardosa/100000081228385 Alexander Cardosa

            Site your bull so that we may pull it apart because of lack of proof. 

        • Micah Dylan

          “the atheist faith” yea i belong to a faith because i don’t participate in certain imaginary fantasies that’s so right man you are so clever

        • marvin nubwaxer

          like the crusades, the inquisition, burning at the stake of witches and others.  christianity has left a trail of carnage for over two thousand years.

          • UnionJackJamesBond

            Oh really? Tell me, where has Christianity, TRUE Christianity, not this Baptist and Evangelical trash, killed anyone? The basis of Christianity is to love God and love everyone else, if you can’t abide by these rules then you are not Christian or you face a very hateful enemy (ex. Hitler. Hard to not hate him). Oh, and some of the worst crimes were committed by self-expressed atheists (Like Stalin, who killed more then 30 million people, and Hitler, who killed at least 6 million). Keep in mind, that wasn’t atheism, just some people that called themselves athiests. Would you say atheism killed those people (it was the main “religion” in many murderous Communist nations) because a few people called themselves atheist and killed people? I sure wouldn’t, so why would you say that because a few people called themselves Christian and killed people, Christianity as a whole has killed people? That’s pretty hypocritical.

          • Jin The Ninja

             holy roman empire, the crusades, witch trials, european colonisation of africa, south and east asia. colonisation of the americas, residential schools. just to name a few. the old testament is highly ethnocentric.

        • DonnieJ

           Are you serious? Claiming that these children aren’t “true” Christians is absolutely ridiculous. They are just as christian as Jesus! They are reacting exactly as religion teaches them: through hate and violence.

          • UnionJackJamesBond

            Intruiging. Show me the passage where Jesus talks about praying that Satan will rape a girl in hell. Go ahead, show it to us.

        • http://twitter.com/BozoDeathGod BozoDeathGod

          It’s funny, none of asshole threats ^ as printed above, like the moron who wants to chop her reincarnated tree down and print the Bible on her- or the idiots that are full of glee just imagining this girl being raped by Satan, well, none of them sound very Christian to me.

          What happened to the Christians who pity anyone condemned to Hell?
          Instead- every ”Christian” I encounter these days seems quite happy that there is a Hell waiting for the people they disagree with.

          What repulsive hypocrites- who are incapable of even following the short and simple philosophy of the Christ part of Christianity. 

    • Seeker

      I absolutely LOVE this!!!

  • DeepCough

    To think, Christians wonder why they haven’t been Raptured yet.

  • justagirl

    ha!  athiest girl = winning!!

    • madison34

      What does she do with other religious emblems though? Does she avoid the mall and restaurants and Halloween and holidays in general? She is going to be exhausted if she spends her whole life avoiding religion, it’s everywhere.

      • justagirl

        she has served a higher purpose of exposing the hypocrites.  i don’t really care if she avoids the mall.  but, dammit if she don’t dress up for halloween ima be pissed.  yes.. avoiding external controls is exhausting.  einstein must have been the saddest most uninformed mf on the planet.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobbie-Jean-Pentecost/100000391760333 Bobbie Jean Pentecost

        There’s a difference between religious displays on privately owned property and religious displays in public schools; the latter is a clear violation of the first amendment.

      • Bvvvvvvvv

         Halloween is pagan, and many holidays are not religiously exclusive.
        You don’t need to avoid it all the time, you just have to close your mouth when someone tries to cram it down your throat

  • David

    As an agnostic, I think this girl is a bitch. The banner has been there forever. Who cares if it stays. Put your own banner up if you must.

    • Calypso_1

      Would you care to clarify how your agnosticism generates your derogatory feelings towards this girl? 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N7ALIJGK2R55DAGQ2DIOHB4ZCU Richard

      Sure, they are going to let her put whatever poster she wants up on the auditorium’s wall.  Idiot.

    • rtb61

      As a believer, I don’t believe you’re an agnostic, just an un-Christian who has never read the bible or even come close to understanding it.
      The law is the law, once the error by the school was pointed out the banner should have been removed, it should never have required a civil court case.
      The school ever tried to claim it wasn’t a prayer, when it was labelled a prayer.
      There is more than one religion no one legally has the right to attempt to force it upon others in a secular country.

    • NeoBlue

      She was standing up for her first amendment rights, she found something illegal and pointed it out.

    • Davidsamoron

      Wow, you are shockingly stupid and I’m 99% sure you are unaware of the meaning of agnostic. Its about seperation of church and state and the girl has a legal right to point it out. Dumbass.

  • m1kesa1m0ns

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a concentration of religious insecurity all in one place. Is there any question for many Christianity is effectively a cult?

    • DeepCough

      It’s an ecclesiastical cult.

  • Twilightsiren

    Apparently Jesus does NOT teach compassion or tolerance, in rhode island. Those comments are disgusting. “raped by satan”? . . .really? . . is that what Jesus would do?!

    • Evilone

      Satan rapes her while Papa Smurf films the gang bang!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N7ALIJGK2R55DAGQ2DIOHB4ZCU Richard

    If this is the kind of monster that Christianity makes of people, then I will not have any of it.  To all you bigoted Christians: F— you and your POS god, too.

    • Door4

      I assure you we are not all like that, just the loud, obnoxious ones,who unfortunately are the ones most noticed. I’ll not be lumped into a category with people who hate just for the sake of hating. No sane, grounded Christian would have said anything so heartlessly evil about a girl who was just trying to stand up for what she believed in. Your cynical, purly emotional response is understandable, if disappointing. You are judging an entire group of people based on their worst members. You are the bigot, however unintentional.

      • DesultoryPhilippic

        Thank you Door4.  You are the type of Christian I wish were more vocal.  As the saying goes, one bad apple spoils the barrel.  Unfortunately, its seems in this day and age, the spoiled apples have the biggest mouths.

        I have a lot of respect for True Christians – those who hold to the ideals espoused by Jesus.  You’re a good apple.  

        And this compliment comes from a Wiccan.

  • Allgoneandout

    Separation of church and state.  I think we have already decided on that one.  So why is everyone so shocked when someone upholds that distinction?

    Show the love Christians!  Is this how you do it, cause if it is, I am not interested in your thoughts.

    • chinagreenelvis

      People are rarely properly educated, but rather brainwashed by tradition. What people often think is “right” is explicitly illegal.

  • Balipps22488

    Lol, all I see on here is a bunch of stupid fucking christian hypocrites.  Doesn’t your precious bible say not to judge people?  And what the fuck are all of you doing?  JUDGING!  You’re all going to burn in your so called hell.  I for one am for the girl speaking her mind.  There is supposed to be a seperation of church and state.  Guess what that means?  Get your false, fake god out of schools.

    • I_abide

      you realize this isn’t the twitter feed that’s posting that garbage right?

    • Door4

      You’re right, Christians are not supposed to judge. I agree that many who call themselves Christians ignore the actual teachings of Christ when it comes to humility and tolerance. But it saddens me that your reaction to Christians is no better than their inappropriate behavior to atheists. If you really believe you’re better than them, as it would seem you do, shouldn’t you act that way? To prove them wrong, be the better person. Otherwise it’s all just more of the same; a meaningless power struggle between overly emotional warring factions.

  • Balipps22488

    She should sue her representative for slander as well.  Being atheist can’t mean your evil seeing as that means you don’t believe in heaven or hell.

  • Nunzio X

    Christians, ask yourselves: Who would Jesus threaten, hurt, intimidate, persecute, and/or kill?

    • Anarchy Pony

      Read Left Behind then ask yourself that again.

      • Devon Gronka

        Translated means:

        Read a book written by men who grew up in the American Mid-West writing almost 2,000 years after Jesus’s life and based on a book recorded 100 years after Jesus’s death and written by a person who most likely did not actually know Jesus and ask that again.

        This seems like a great place to begin examining the psychology of a man who lived in the ancient Middle East under authoritative Roman rule with a legal system, culture, and society very different from modern day America and ask what he would or wouldn’t do.

        • John Brown

          THIS

        • http://www.facebook.com/cees.timmerman Cees Timmerman

          The collection of books known as “The Holy Bible” was transcribed, translated, selected, and bundled by numerous people. Also, Jesus may not have existed and was probably black if he did.

          • Tuna Ghost

            the word “black” has almost no meaning in that part of the world at that time.  You may as well say “dark-skinned, as if he and all his ancestors had spent a lot of time outdoors”

  • Andrew

    Good thing God has Satan to rape atheist girls for Him and make sure there is some justice in the universe.

    • Flyswatter

      Uh……….WHAT?  What kind of person says this about a sixteen year old child.  All of us are fundamentally products of our upbringing and environment.  This CHILD  was possibly raised by parents who are atheists.  Your own fundamental belief system was instilled by your parents also. Physiologically, a “belief” is a thought that has been thought so many times that your mind no longer questions it. 

      I don’t know what “God” you know, but the God with whom I believe that I have a personal relationship doesn’t “have Satan to rape atheist girls for Him”. 

      If my God were to create Satan to rape children, I’d prefer to be an atheist.

      Hope your parents are proud of you. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=558208148 Josh Klessig

        You do realize Andrew was sarcastically referencing what some of those mean-spirted Christians had said in the above article right?  That he was bringing light to how ridiculous it is that a supposedly love-thy-neighbor Christian had said, “We can make so many jokes about this dumb bitch , but who cares #thatbitchisgoingtohell and Satan is gonna rape her.”

        I’ll let someone else point out how ridiculous your misplaced righteous indignation looked.

  • Snxm

    It seems like the standard is to ignore the Constitution, forcing those who’d like to exercise their minority rights to wage their own little American Revolutions. “Chilling effect” does not begin to describe how this alters law and society.

  • Sloshmagoo

    The christian response to this is far less than christian. Who would jesus kill…? And would he do it over some banner. God shits on you fake christians.. you will burn In hell right next to that girl except you fake chrisians will have a confused look on your face.

  • Dane Collins

    Nice to see the Dane fuckin Cook bit about chopping down the atheist tree is being used so lovingly.  Why is that guy even popular?  I guess it’s the Christians who love him?

  • Dave

    I’m not a Christian but I think this is ridiculous.  I’m not sure which is worse, militant Christians or whiny overly sensitive “atheists”….two sides of the same fundamentalist coin.  

    • FuxWithForx

      She didn’t do it specifically because she was an atheist, she did it because she believes in the U.S. Constitution.

  • Chesne17

    Dear God,

    Please protect me from your followers.

    Amen

  • TravBradley

    Stand strong kiddo.

  • RequiemDogma

    I can’t help but think that a REAL atheist wouldn’t have cared, at all, what was on what banner where. The moment an athiest’s athiesm becomes a system of beliefs, they are simply a hypocrite.
    That said, the attacks against her are uncalled for and certainly anti-Christian, but she was kind of a dick.

    • Reaper

      It’s not that she was being hypocritical. She was just being a secularist. Religion has no place in schools or the government.

    • Devon Gronka

      turn the tables around.  If there was a giant banner at your school that said something along the lines of “We must do our best because there is no god to help us”, or “we pray to Gamesh for a successful day” what would your reaction be?

      You would probably feel that either it is out of place or you are out of place.  Her argument is that it made her feel unwelcome, which I can understand.

      Why do you think that an Atheist wouldn’t care about that?  Everyone ultimately has some system of beliefs; they enable us to function in the world.  The whole argument about atheists not really being atheists if they have an ethical code or whatever is just ridiculous semantics.

      • RequiemDogma

        Firstly, not condoning the reaction.
        Second, I can see those points. What’s really starting to bug me about Atheists in the news though is that they’re almost making a religion out of being anti-theist, and I wonder “who are you trying to convince?”Was the banner really hurting anyone?
        Being offended by a wish-well prayer/school motto, as an Atheist, is as ridiculous as being offended by a poster of Santa Claus. I don’t believe in him either, doesn’t mean I’m going to force my beliefs on the established community culture.
        So when I hear about something like this, I envision something like this:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sGN5wlfhs

        • Devon Gronka

          I’m not sure she ever said it “offended” her.  There is a difference between being offended by something and thinking that it’s not right.

          If it made her feel unwelcome in the school, then it was hurting her, and anyone else who felt unwelcome as a result of it.  It’s not quite the same as a poster of Santa Claus; its a banner that says a certain amount about the ideology and values of the school.  Those values should not have to do with religion or be limited to religious students.

          • RequiemDogma

            Having read the “prayer” and how it made her feel, my interpretation is on events still leads me to believe this started ridiculous and is now blown out of proportion.

            She says seeing it made her feel like it was a sign “You don’t belong here,” however there is no ill will, segregation, or prejudice present in it’s words. I don’t believe in God either, doesn’t mean I should take offense to being “blessed” by others in the manner of their own faith.

            As for the Santa Claus thing, you’d be suprised how much the same it is when your community has gone into a radical reform over “political correctness” where “Merry Christmas” now needs to be “Happy Holidays”. Changes made over the same hollow arguments “someone wishing me well in a faith not my own is offensive and makes me feel unwelcome.” I’ll admit, I don’t understand it, because I don’t take stock in the passive aggressive posturing of any faithful.

            Like you said before, turn the tables, now you’re someone who took comfort in being in the school along with most of it’s population and someone’s beliefs have now taken it away. Pretend your even moderately faithful and take an offense to it. Who is in the right?
            We know who’s legally correct, but what does that mean?

            Addendum: I find it hilarious that as soon as the prayer preaching all these good morals that can be accepted as “right” by anyone, faith or not, is covered up, the student community it was supposed to guide falls off it’s teachings, and falls hard.

          • fsm12321

            Separation. Of Church. And State. What about this are people not getting? If Christians don’t like it, they’re welcome to do their best to amend the Constitution. Until then, tough shit.

    • http://twitter.com/FlyingFree333 Flying Free

       She pointing out, quick correctly, what the LAW said. The dick here is you for bashing a brave girl who stood up to a state full of bullies for what is right.

      • RequiemDogma

        Hey pot! It’s Kettel, what’s up? 
        Oh no, I totally agree, law is law, sure thing but lets be clear that it is highly unlikely the bullish behavior existed before the community felt it’s beliefs were trampled on, if everyone had kept their opinions to themselves they’d still all just be in some kind of harmony don’t you think?
        I mean, it’s been up for 49 years and was never called out before.

        I’m not arguing against Jess or her beliefs and bravery, just the need to start changing a community in “balance” over, religion or lack there of.

        • DesultoryPhilippic

          You are missing the point.  The school ( a government body) had a religious banner posted.  Are you arguing for ignoring the law?

        • Johnnyutah

          Separation of church and state means separation of church and state. Why is this even being debated? I don’t tell anyone they cant believe or post anti theist slogans so I simply ask for the same treatment back. Freedom of religion actually includes freedom from religion as well.

  • http://twitter.com/skylcort Tony G.

    Knuckledraggers for Jesus. Is there no longer a code of conduct, Team Jesus?

  • http://twitter.com/cinnamonlips Erica

    https://twitter.com/#!/JohnDePetroWPRO

    Even old man media fuckers are attacking her. She’s 16. FFS.

  • Okkvlt

    I hope her family has a firearm in the home, I wouldn’t put it past those animals to get violent over this.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3GB7WI6UH7TWVISEMHNJX2A3RI Tralphaz

    I don’t see any comments from real Christians, real Christians would not make these kind of comments.
    As far as the “separation of church and state”, there is no such clause, the school was well within it’s right to have the banner, the actual clause reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ….”  As can be easily seen, congress had nothing whatsoever to do with the sign.

    • Mr Willow

      Yes, the real Christians that began the Crusades, the real Christians that imposed the Inquisitions in Europe and Spain, the real Christians that followed Cotton Mather in Salem, or the real Christians that condemn everyone from gays to abortion doctors as servants of the Devil and call for their deaths. 

      I have immense respect for the figure of Jesus, and his message of love and compassion, to be meek and humble, and all the rest, but the very people who claim to be his followers are the very reason the religion is so maligned. 

      If they are, in fact, behaving in contrast to ‘real’ Christians, somebody needs to tell them. 

      Control your flock. 

      • DeepCough

        Alas, for the Shepherd is dead. and the sheep have been pissed ever since.

      • Door4

        Yes indeed. Christians are the only people who ever start wars and commit atrocities. Oh wait, no they’re not. Christians and non-Christians alike have behaved in equally vile manners all throughout history. Stop looking for a scapegoat. We are all guilty.

        • Mr Willow

          Indeed, we are all guilty. 

          There have been wars and genocides and brutal, useless death all without the influence of Christianity. 

          However, the abominable episodes I cited were committed as a direct result of dogmatic Christian imperialism (in the case of the Crusades), domination (in the case of the Inquisitions), paranoia (Salem), and scapegoating (contemporary ‘God is punishing the US for allowing gays in the military’ crowd). 

          And the purpose of my reply was an appeal for the ‘real Christians’ of love and compassion to stifle all the horrible things committed in the name of their religion by whom they continue to condemn as false.

    • chinagreenelvis

      I understand your argument, and in a sense you should be right in that Jesus’ teachings, from what I’ve read, are a far cry from how those who call themselves Christian have actually behaved throughout history. However, that being said, this is walking the line of the No True Scotsman fallacy:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman 

  • Hypocrisy in man

    All religions and religious people speak of love and human ideals. But in the end they commit atrocities that are more brutal than what what any animal could conceivably commit. In fact I will go as far as to say that mankind as we are today are WORSE than animals. The animal species are a higher life form in relation to the human. The animals don’t kill in the name of religion, in the name of gods, in the name of ideology, they function simply and naturally in alignment with nature. The animals only engage in activity that will allow them to survive, not take pleasure in the misery of others, in misery itself!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Rosa/100000782452690 Eric Rosa
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Rosa/100000782452690 Eric Rosa

    yeah and im not the eric rosa in that post btw… proud realist here

  • Alicia83_2006

    Everyone is entiltled to their own religion or lack thereof. Nobody has the right to judge her because nobody can prove that their religion is legit. Religion is a set of morals and rules to live by and everyone should keep their mouths shut about whether or not their religion is correct. The only way we will be able to tell who is right and who is wrong is by dieing and only then will we know the truth. Problem is after were dead there is no way to come back and let everyone else know the truth. Keep your opinions to yourself and quit picking on others due to their own beliefs!

  • http://photios.co.cc/ Photios

    She must have done something right to have garnered so much hate. =p

    • madison34

      I guess that applies to Christians too, they are one of the most hated religions there is.

  • Devon Gronka

    I wonder how many of those Christians even realize that their idea of hell is actually rooted in ancient Greek and Pagan ideas of the afterlife and doesn’t really exist, according to their religion.

    • http://photios.co.cc/ Photios

      Just goes to show how unbecoming indoctrination really is. Belief systems built upon a foundation of sand are going to crash really hard one of these days(might be already).

    • DesultoryPhilippic

      They got the idea from Milton.

  • http://twitter.com/globalvaro Alvaro

    Now i understand how the “holly” inquisition was possible.
    We are surrounded by religious extremists here and now in 2012.

  • neurolux

    The Romans had a state religion, and they only tolerated the Jews. Jesus didn’t follow either religion. Look what happened to him. So now the religious right want a state religion…..

  • madman

    bloody americans

  • Mysophobe

    Modern Christianity is all about fear. They wreak of it. All that “god’s love” jibberish is just a poorly written cover story meant for children.

    • Tuna Ghost

      you mean “reek”, and the stink of fear can be found on people who have no religion whatsoever.  

  • Will

    Hitler and the Nazi party filled out their ranks by recruiting from the catholic and protestant churches, because they are filled with frothing rabid fanatics that are easily convinced that killing people of other cultures is a just cause.

  • Door4

    Really people? Is this what Jesus would do? This is not an appropriate way to protest the actions of another human being, let alone one so young. You all need to go home and re-read your new testament. Shame on you.

  • Cjaggers10

    Atheist and proud. christians are not in the real world. jesus never existed .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Villi-Asgeirsson/759893212 Villi Asgeirsson

    How utterly stupid some people can be. And I don’t mean the girl. Those freaks would haven stood in a circle screaming BURN THE WITCH a few centuries ago. We haven’t advanced one slight bit. In the name of the lord, kill!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Slupski/1093698968 Jason Slupski

    DO UNTO these smelly little turds FIRST.  Nothing but more non-contributing ZEROES spewing filth that would make Hitler and their master, Satan very-very proud.

  • DMDoom

    And this is why I’m no longer religious, that and the logical fallacies that litter religious texts like the Bible that much of the lip service Christians tout as infallible, the reaction is truly disgusting.

  • Bazookafund

    Wow, the love these good christians show is unbelievable.

  • wickedwise

    I find it telling that hers was the only tweet that was spelt correctly.

    Religion is, unfortunately, a magnet for ignorant faithtards. Now, before everyone gets all uppity, that’s not the same as equating religion or religious people with ignorance, but I think we can agree that these people are clearly the lowest common denominator. It’s no wonder they’re anti-evolution because they wouldn’t stand a chance.   

  • DesultoryPhilippic

    I’ve read a lot of comments on religious news articles,
    recently, including this one.  I’ve run across the line of
    reasoning that states to be truly ethical one must be Christian, and that
    morality comes from the Bible.  I have to
    scratch my head.  These commentators seem
    to believe, based on their words, that there are no moral Hindus, no good
    Buddhists, and that anyone and everyone who is not Christian is the spawn of
    the Devil.  There are many Jews, Muslims,
    Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, agnostics, and atheists who take issue with this
    attitude.

    Let’s just pretend for a moment that God is not watching and
    keeping score over your indiscretions. 
    Better yet, just for a moment, let’s pretend that there is no God, no
    Divinity that cares one whit what we do. 
    Just for the sake of argument. 

    Now, since God is out of the equation, let me pose this
    question:  Would you kill someone just
    because you can?  Take a moment and give
    this question due consideration.  There
    is no God watching over your shoulder, therefore, nothing to hold you back from
    humanity’s worst impulses.  Would you
    still give in?

    Let’s flip this argument on its head:  If God commanded you to kill your children
    for backtalk, would you honor that commandment? 
    If the Ten Commandments said “Thou shalt” rather than “Thou Shalt Not”,
    would you become a sinner in the eyes of the Lord?

    Assuming the reader isn’t a sociopath, my bet is on a
    resounding “No!”  Normal people don’t
    kill, because killing is wrong.  Normal
    people don’t steal, because stealing is wrong. 
    Do you only honor your Father and Mother because God commands you
    to?  Is the only reason to remain
    faithful to your spouse because God said so? 
    Are you good only because God threatened you into being so?

    As Jon Stewart so eloquently pointed out to Bill
    Bennett:  “…you people stood in the way
    of civil rights for blacks, then it passed, world went on.  You were against women voting, they got it,
    the world went on.  Now you’re wrong
    about gay marriage, so just get out of the way.”  Mr. Stewart ended the discussion with this
    notable statement:  “I think it’s a
    debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or
    just a random fetish.”  In a larger context, I would add that
    our morality is based on whether or not we think of each other simply as
    another human being, and is measured by how we treat each other.

    When we mistreat others, it is because somewhere in our
    heart of hearts we do not think of the object of our ire as human.  No Devil makes us evil, we do it of our own
    accord, just as we perform acts of kindness because we want to.

    Goodness, altruism, honor, morals, ethics.  All these grand words come down to the Golden
    Rule:  Do unto others as you would have
    done to you.  

    We are not good because of
    a book.  We are good in spite of it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/cees.timmerman Cees Timmerman

      Normal people punish and repossess, though, and evil can turn people bad.

  • wickedwise

    This reminds me in part of that episode of ‘Sportsnight,’ when a number of college football players, black and white, refuse to play until their college takes down the Confederate flag outside the stadium.  

  • BIRDFORGREATNESS

    i like how most of the posts have curse words and shit. those atheist haters are really who god will hate (if he’s true). at least we have stood by our truth. church goers say one thing then go out and curse, have unmarried sex and drink. so ask your self, IF SOMEONE GAVE YOU FAITH ONE DAY A WEEK, BUT DIDNT PRACTICE IT 6 DAYS A WEEK IS THAT WORSE THAN SOMEONE JUST NOT GIVING YOU FAITH AT ALL? AT LEAST YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN BE JUSTIFIED ON OUR STANDS. i know, i know, your right cause you go to church and all that B.S.          its just weird that every time science has proven god worthless (sorry, ment not needed) the churches just come up with another dumb reason of why, or if they cant think of a reason, they just say, THATS WHAT GOD WILLED TO HAPPEN.   

  • http://twitter.com/pauljongsu paul

    when will christians and atheists stop attention whoring?

    • Andrew

      When homo sapiens is extinct.

  • samthor

    School taxes are already ridiculous. I’m already pissed that tax money is unevenly distributed to the athletic department over actual textbooks and learning material. Why should my tax money pay for religious propaganda as well? It’s a PUBLIC school, it’s meant to teach ALL the kids regardless of their nationality, culture, or religious preference. A banner such as this is a waste of taxpayer money. And completely inappropriate for a public institution. 

    Giving preferential treatment to one particular religious view would seem to give members of that religion that they are somehow entitled… somehow above the law… somehow better than others who do not share the same view, and therefore perfectly entitled to threaten harm in such a juvenile fashion.

  • Pb

    This has less to do with religion and christianity than it does with asshole kids mobbing up on the unpopular girl and bullying her.

  • Yournass

    ALL this shows me is the hypocrisy of those who have religion

  • Beside Myself

    I had NO idea people were this ignorant and hateful.  Apparently the Muslims might actually be right and that “Christians” have a lot of hate.  Surprising how many YOUNG kids are this hateful.  This is a classic example of bullying and should NOT be tolerated – I know as I was bullied until I hit college.

    • Tuna Ghost

      You…don’t spend much time around children, do you

      • Mysophobe

        Oops. I’d say that the group that frequently wishes eternal damnation on the other has the fear market cornered, not to mention that it belies their own motives. If the fear of what bad things may happen in the afterlife is what motivates one to follow and promote some man-made dogma, they’re a textbook coward. What, pray tell, are atheists afraid of? Religion? “The Truth”? Give me a break.

  • HellOnEarth

       Hail Satan, lord of darkness! May he rise and crush the righteous scum! Their messiah will bleed from his crown of thorns. The Anti-Christ will rise and dominate the world. He will stand before their re-crucified savior, crack the whip upon his flesh, push the thorns deeper in his head, hammer down the nails, make him scream in agony before driving the baphomet spear into his side. On worldwide television He will piss on the corpse of their pathetic man god, wave the sign of the horns in the air and crown himself king of the world.   May the glory of the anit-Christ and Lucifer be proclamined throughout the world as a flaming pentegram burns in the sky. Their kingdom will fall. Their churches will burn. Their crosses inverted. THEIR GOD IS DEAD!       The earth will tremble as eveil spirits and summoned by the rituals of darkness. The gates of hell will be opened, and the forces of unholy wrath will unleashed the Satanic rapture. The angles will have their wings shredded. They will be nailed to inverted crosses, the demons Azazel, Ababdon, and Azaroth will drink their blood as it falls to the ground in rivers. They will dance through the fields of angles dying in agony, begging for mercy from their dead god, weeping in pain and dispair. Heaven will be destroyed, the pearly gates will be melted by hellfire and poured down Yaweh’s throat. The world will be inherited by those who take the mark of the beast and give praise to the majesty of Satan. The world will bow before Satan’s glory and the age of the feeble Christ will be a distant memory.

  • owhandhandhand

    Making Jesus proud!

  • Stewie

    And to think that Peter Griffin had me convinced that Rhode Islanders were much more open minded.

  • Jim Reynolds

    I attended a Catholic school for a year.  In each classroom  a statue of a corpse was displayed prominently, so the children could learn  about the glory of human sacrifice.

  • Micah Dylan

    The Pentagon loves hateful, ignorant Christians such as these … once they graduate high school they will make perfect soldiers for the crusades … channel that hate & let’s go kill some brown-skinned Allah-worshipers for Jesus & America fuck yea!!

    Afterwards they will come home as hardened killers & be given various law-enforcement positions so they can bully, rape, steal, murder & get away with it …

    Go team America!

  • J Sueth

    I love seeing thesr idiots toss out death threats and hate speech against people who don’t think exactly as they do. It lets me know how much smarter I am than the general population. I refusr to waste my life hoping for something that we all know deep inside is a overpopularized work of fiction.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michele-Nunyabiz/100000158671139 Michele Nunyabiz

    This reminds me of the pro-life advocates that threaten to kill the Doctors that perform abortions.

  • Anomaly_of_Anomie

    Atheists… you merely refuse to see, because science alone cannot prove existence of god by using it’s own limited methods of measurement.

    But it is the religious organizations to blame for your anti-god existence… Christians, Muslims, and Jews alike, fundamentalists responsible for countless wars and unspeakable atrocities, centuries of abuse. The atheist is about resentment, not logic. Why else would a tiny human being go out of his way just to proclaim an external concept inconceivable! 

    There is no purpose in discussing reason vs. god, for Spirit is behind all reason. You cannot prove this statement wrong. Though fools will try…

    • Frank

      If you can’t detect it, can’t argue for or against it, and can’t demonstrate it logically, what reason is there to suppose it’s there in the first place? It’s an unjustified assumption based on nothing more than gut feeling. And when this unjustified assumption is bound up with doctrines calling for the condemnation of nonbelievers and centuries of atrocities committed in its name, is it any wonder that nonbelievers feel the need to defend themselves against it?

    • Micah Dylan

      I was an atheist who refused to see, until i read this post, & lo & behold “Spirit” moved through your words & stirred the waters of my soul & i realized for the first time that my “anti-god” existence was a result of resentment toward the religious organizations rather than logic & i had gone so far out of my way just to proclaim external concepts inconceivable …

      i will now cease my discussions of reason vs god & become one with the Divine Tooth-Fairy who is behind all true reason … it would be foolish of me to try to prove this wrong …

  • Tuna Ghost

    We’re all such awful, awful people, every one of us

  • Gregory Wyrdmaven

    If a religious person feels that their religion is threatened, then they don’t have faith…and you can pretty much dismiss the idea that they are religous and that their religion is valid.  While the girl is not evil, just not smart, since she’s an atheist, she has exposed the hypocrisy that probably led her to her current ideology.  However, she is probably amongst the herd of atheists who are reacting to religion rather than really thinking through the implications of what atheism means…basically that we are just things that only think we are thinking and therefore there’s no reason to get out of bed in the morning.

    One of the cures for atheism is for all religions to disappear, for there to only be atheists…who would then immediately recognize the need for a new religion, since…luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.

    fiat lux

    • Frank

      I don’t know about you, but for me “we’re all just talking slabs of meat” is still a BIG step up from “we’re all corrupted vermin who deserve to burn in hell forever, created only to flatter the vanity of God.”

    • Micah Dylan

       ”basically that we are just things that only think we are thinking and
      therefore there’s no reason to get out of bed in the morning.”

      that’s what atheism means? thank you for enlightening me oh luminous being with this knowledge … i had no reason to get out of bed because of my lack of belief in imaginary fairy tales … i thought i was doomed to be just a ‘thing’ that only thinks i am thinking …

      one of the cures for atheism? There’s a CURE! Hallelujah i thought i was trapped in the hypocritical ideology of this herd of atheists until my meaningless life ended oh thank you luminous brother for shining the light of truth on me

      “If a religious person feels that their religion is threatened, then they
      don’t have faith…and you can pretty much dismiss the idea that they
      are religious and that their religion is valid.”

      no true Scotsman? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

      keep up the good work buddy

  • Nicksteele90

    As far as I’m concerned, this girl is a hero. More people have been killed in the name of religion–especially Christianity (see the Inquisition)–than by anything else on earth. Yes, you Christians are free to worship your psychopathic god, but don’t force us to listen to your prayers in school. 

  • madison34

    I agree she has a right to express her concerns but if she doesn’t believe, then why does she care? Is she complaining about Christmas and the Easter Bunny too? I don’t believe in Santa Claus but I certainty don’t care if he dominates the best time of year. Does she really not get any gifts during Christmas or Hanukkah????

  • http://www.facebook.com/This.is.Username David Hudson

    This is just another finger-pointing campaign.

    I’m Christian.  My believe is simple.  God is there for me.  If you don’t think he’s there for you, that’s you.  I’ll do my duty to my faith and what I feel is my duty to my friend.  I will love and care for my friend, and do what I feel is right by not judging them, so I can continue to love them without mucking it all up with holy wars.  All are human, equal, fallible, gifted, moronic, lazy, brilliant, wrathful, beautiful beings.  No judgement is needed.
    My questions-
    Why does it matter?  
    The Bible says that God will hear prayers of the heart, so why do we have to pray with our mouths in school?Why do you Christians have to threaten this girl?Why did she have to have the banner?Why can’t we pray in school?Seriously, there’s no reason that this should have started.  Theists pray, atheists don’t.  Why battle over it?  There’s so much more we can accomplish by blending ideas, instead of destroying them.

    • Frank

      It’s your book that condemns unbelievers as scum worthy of death in the first place. The kindest thing the Bible has to say about unbelievers is that you shouldn’t have them as friends… which is a step up from stoning, I guess, but still. Is it any wonder unbelievers react negatively? Your entire system is built on condemning us while dressing it up in sweet words.

  • satans fiend

     anyone who belives in religion is an idiot. how fucking hard is it to accept that when you die your dead and that you decompose and fertilize the soil. it  proven fact that is what happens when things die.  has anyone every seen a soul? no because life forms dont have souls. the closest thing anyone could ever say that would even remotley resemble a soul would be  the energy left behind by the body. again this is not a soul. i just dont understand how so many people around the world can be so hellbent on heaven and hell. i think we should just kill everysingle human being who believe in any kind of religion, then desicrate every know artifact, monument or any other thing(s) that may be used to inform people of the future of garbage that is used to brainwash the masses, and achive political gains.
     im sorry to all those who need a religion to believe in because otherwise you would be doomed, stop using religion as a crutch to try and cope with how fucked up you life is (mom)  you  yourselves have the ability to change your life and things in it. no invisible  forces is going to make thing happen for you.
    its a fucked up world we live in. i tip my hat to the group of people who decided to fabricate suck an indepth story to captivate and control the masses. truley the genious of the time.
    fuck everyone and goodnight afganistan. oh thank you religion for bringing me to this dessert, oh cant forget the radical exstremest that believe in religion either, or the greedy people on top of the food chain m aking money off of this.

    • FREEDOM

      do you support Ron Paul? If not you should look into his views. I believe what you are Talking about is Liberty!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/MichaelJRodriguez Michael J. Rodriguez

    As a good friend of mine once said, “I can’t wait for aliens to show up and sort this whole mess out”

  • Emi Justine

    Having an issue with the prayer is a problem. Having a problem with her having an issue with the prayer is a problem. No one is right. But sending her death threats over something so minor? Get with it people.  I myself am agnostic, but I believe religion serves its purpose.  If it gives you peace, it gives you peace.  To each their own.

  • guest

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you religion. Nice, decent Christians can only be so by ignoring or discarding huge chunks of the Bible. So while these people are assholes, they’re a lot closer to what I read in the Bible than, for example, Martin Luther King.

  • Frank

    Not surprising. Tolerance of different religious opinions is not and never has been a Christian value. Quite the opposite, if you go by the Bible. Kill the Philistines and burn their cities, etc.

    • Frank

      The best thing the Bible has to say about unbelievers is that you shouldn’t have them as friends, which I guess is a step up from stoning, but still. Sure, there are kind and decent believers, but they can only be so by ignoring or throwing out huge chunks of the Bible. They talk about “angry atheists,” but it’s THEIR book that condemns us (quite venomously) in the first place, not the other way around.

  • Krieg1981

    Ah, christer love.  What a bunch of hypocritical asswipes.  News flash: No one want’s your Dark Age mentality imposed at school, or anywhere else for that matter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Love/100001295587771 Dave Love

    religion kills brains dead

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SDRGDAV7HOVMVSRJPJC6TYJMGE Kancho

    Why is it that every christian I know is a jerkwad? We have UFC bloody fight matches, might as well take it to the next step? We have too many Christians and we have so many needy Lions and Tigers in need of a good snack! And yes this is in direct response to the vile crap I see from thumpers about this girl’s position. FUCK YOU!

  • Guest

    Just one question: what fucking century is it in that part of the world? The 16th?

  • Wrexpaul67

    Don’t these idiots stop to think for a moment? If there really is a God I doubt that he will be pleased about the hatred they are subjecting this young girl to.

    Don’t fancy your chances of getting into heaven with that attitude, guys!

    • madison34

      Hopefully they are not true Christians. I would guess they are posers.

  • chris massey-lynch

    Westboro Baptist Church /Peter Palumbo /Christian Fascists

  • alexandre mcfly

    This is horrible.

  • Rich

    flush the shit bible down the toilet

  • madison34

    She can be an Atheist if she wants and I  can be a Christian if I want. I don’t request that other religious signs get taken down. I don’t ask that other religion’s holiday’s change their name. I don’t ask the Chinese restaurants to take their Buddha statues down before I eat there. But I would not wish her to hell etc. (Keep in mind that Jesus died because Christians cannot be sinless so basically their behavior is not surprising – However, I don’t believe the people above are true Christians).

  • RevCat

    Ignorance, thy name is religion. More evil deeds are done by fanatics in the name of God, than were ever committed by atheists. There is no God, no heaven or hell either. Time to grow up and stop believing in the perpetual Mommy and Daddy who live in the sky. Religion is simply a system of control by which the few are able to manipulate the many. The sooner you wake up and realize this, the better off we all will be as a species.

  • marvin nubwaxer

    too bad they are not out there paying away the gay.  and how many death threats come from athiests?

  • Boxfullostuff

    Boy ya’ll are some evil Christians.

  • Jon2993005

    I’m trying to understand..but in order to do that i’d like to ask a question. If a war started in our country, a war that affected every region, every state, every city, every town, every house, and every person, wouldn’t we ALL stand up, come together as one, and fight? Fight for our families, fight for our homes, fight for our lives, fight for our country and everything it stands for, and fight under the American Flag, as one. Then why is it that we decide to bicker and fight amongst ourselves in the meantime? Tear each other down because of a few subtle differences that, unless asked about or shown, would never be noticed? She was simply fighting for what is her freedom, the freedom of speech, the freedom of her own oppinion, and the freedom to fight for what should be fought for. Her intent was not to insult Christians. Every single person, Christian or Atheist, that either replied to the story itself or commented on on here, and in some way blamed or insulted another person just because of their veiws, should be ashamed. We are Americans, United we stand, Divided we fall. Im only 17, but no matter how “immature” I may be, atleast I can realize how blown out of proportion, how childish, and how eye-opening this whole mess has been. We Bless America.

    • squirtinbetty69

      Very nice comment, man.

  • squirtinbetty69

    This kind of thing always pisses me off. Both sides are wrong here. On the one side you’ve got yet another atheistic teenager (which are a dime a dozen) who can’t stand it when people are “so stupid” as to believe in a god. Really? It bothers you so much to see people pray to something you don’t believe in that you would make a legal case out of it. Then you’ve got extreme Christians that take it way to far with death threats. They have a right to be mad, just like a lot of people would be, but to share the girl’s address, potentially endangering her life is disturbing. You’d like to think we live in a country where people can tolerate other beliefs, but I don’t think that will ever be possible…. One final complaint to finish my fun little rant here: I’m 17 and in my school, if you go on the internet and call a girl a bitch and spread that much hatred, you get disciplined. I’m assuming these kids got a verbal warning at the most because secretly those Christian adults that work at the school want it to keep happening. This is why I don’t waste time with religion or a lack of it. Why give yourself a title and then spend your life being told your wrong by somebody. Telling someone you don’t know what they believe is more effective for getting out of a religious conversation than responding with an actual belief. I don’t understand the meaning of life and neither does anyone else so just shut up and find something else to kill each other over….

    • RevCat

      Moron, this isn;t about believing in fairies. It’s 100% about taxpayer’s money used to promote Christian prayer in a public school. The girl is 100% right and the so called “Faithful” are 100% wrong, not to mention creepy and childish.

      • Fairqueenmab

        Why call her a moron? Is that necessary? Does she not have a right to her own opinion? I, for one, back her opinion but do not need to call you a moron.

        • RevCat

          You’re a moron too if you agree with that tripe. Opinions are not facts. Having an opinion doesn’t entitle anyone to automatic respect, especially when the opinion is foolish.

          • JohhnyGlados

             And you are a moron for being a moron.  Way to fall for the bait moron.

          • RevCat

            rofl Oh my, you are precious. Take a chill pill Sunshine, before you blow a gasket.

  • Hellfire7885

    So, why are all of these people over-riding the authority of their supposedly all mighty god?

  • Monsterman1960

    And now we have all the “clever” little atheist-inspired comments about the ignobility of God and Christians. Yes, all atheists just want to be left alone – what a bald-face lie! I’ve never met an atheist who wasn’t of the opinion that all things religious should be wiped from the planet. The “truth” as you see it is absolutely just the opposite!

  • http://twitter.com/DreAmeoba Gordon Klock

    Way too many phony christians in the last century,their numbers (numb embers) rising alarmingly(Dominionists,Hagee,Phelps,etc.)Now they seem to be the overwhelming majority.They worship a phony,pretend war-Jesus(white-boy Jesus) This religion has seen a lot of corruption thru the centuries at the hands of power-tripping, control- freaks,but to revert to medieval style satanic christianity in this day & age is particularly obnoxious.An interesting thing to note:ask them about the “Golden Rule” & see how many of them even can recite it.Mention an uncomfortable truth in their presence & watch their eyes light-up in anger.Mention “the Sermon on the Mount”& watch/listen to their response.These tragically deluded people are paranoid of anyone ‘different’& proud(the deadliest of the 7 sins)of their ignorance.
    If this religion has truth to it,they may be in for a bad surprise as to who winds up in the cosmic disposal oven.

  • Thunderf4

    Whawha boohoo everyone needs to get the hell over it.

    • Andrew

       You need to get over other people not getting over it.

  • Nielsontm

    The people who posted these threats are hypocrites. Do not judge the Christian faith because of the terrible things these people said. I’m a church-goer, and although I don’t believe what this girl went through was necessary, I do believe that any true Christian would refrain from any kind of vulgar remark such as the ones posted here. I’m disgusted to see anybody stoop to such low levels, but I would like to point out that these were the extremists. People will be people; just as there are atheists willing to go to such extremes to remove God from the public school system, there are people who call themselves Christian who are willing to make death threats over such a thing. Please do not judge Christians on their behalf, for their words were not in line with the teaching of God’s Word

  • jt Luvr71

    Christians are not supposed to judge…wtf? The girl has every right to believe what she wants…LEAVE HER THE F***K ALONE!!!! Do you not have anything better to do than f**k with a little girl, her family and her beliefs

  • Peggy Pearl

    Ah, yes.  Those “loving, forgiving, accepting religious crazies” are showing their true colors.  Death threats.  Name calling.  Jessica you are a strong woman beyond belief.  Stand up for your beliefs.  There are more people in this world who believe as you do than there are those who believe in fairy tales and use the bible to make excuses for their misguided hatred and injustice that they spew through out the world.  Atheism is sanity at it’s best. 

  • Queen Mab

    The sad thing is that the banner was actually very positive. All this girl did was create a problem where there wasn´t one really, and it ended up backlashing on her. Trying to do our best, to grow, to be kind and helpful are things both theists and atheists should strive for. So actually, it´s only the “heavenly father” part that could be deemed offensive (?). 
    This is obviously a case of the ballbreaker (girl) against the zealots (christians). 

  • SPLITWIG63

    JUST ALAYS REMEMBER OPIIONS ARE LIKE ASS HOLES WE ALL HAVE ONE AND THEY ALMOST ALWAYS STINK

  • UnionJackJamesBond

    Gonna make a bold statement here; Christians have 2 commandments that they MUST follow. “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind”, and “Love thy neighbor as you would love yourself”. If you cannot follow these commandments, you are not a Christian, or not a very good one. Those people aren’t Christians, just trolls with the delusion that they are Christian. That atheist girl likely has a higher chance of going to heaven than they do, and keep in mind that I myself am actually a Christian, so what I say does have a bit more credibilty to it.

    Those people are an embarrasment to Christians, and to humans as a whole. Send them to prison, or better yet, send them to the “next life” and they’ll finally get the chance to find out who they pleased more, God or Satan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Savio/100001826954767 Daniel Savio

    You’re quite right, it is exhausting sometimes.

  • SecurityCult

    The school doesn’t belong to the state. It belongs to the community. The inhabitants of that community have cultural rights and right to free speech. This is banning such speech.

    The problem is that I bet that school gets federal funds so now you can look at it two ways:
    Federal funding means you can’t have religious speech, therefore the federal govt is infringing.
    Federal funding means religious speech comes in a place receiving federal funds therefore the federal govt is promoting religious speech.

    So is the religious speech promoted by the federal govt or the community. That depends on the tendencies of the federal govt and the source of funding.

    For years the federal govt has promoted religion as it is not allowed to do and for years is it has also opposed it as it is also not allowed to do. In this case there is religious speech and it all hinges on federal funding. There is the noticeable lack of a federal mandate attached to the religious speech, but there is the fact that govt has at times promoted religion and at times opposed it. Which comes back to two issues, whose money was used for the banner and where did it come from. Does money from the federal govt belong to the community or the govt or does it belong to the people who paid the taxes? Was the banner created with federal or community funds.

    And one other issue still stands: Does the banner promote religion or is it merely an expression of an idea in a source that happens to be religious?

    What underscores the whole discussion is this: The behavior on Facebook is expected in situations where people feel marginalized. It’s Facebook. It’s a sewer not a court of law. Left wing right wing rants and crude comments are fairly abundant. Death threats cross the line. And there it all falls apart because you have a community that professes religion but doesn’t uphold it and which cries out about free speech but is not willing to fund such speech with local funding.

  • Jwrujoh1

    This is American ji-had

  • FreneticxSkeptic

    Atheism is a religion liked being bald is a hair color. Stop saying atheism is a religion. You’re ignorant. 

    • HernanM

      Ha.. what’s this about Atheism being a religion? Just stumbled upon this and it sounds hilarious.
      My premise in life is simply, BE NICE… amen – if everyone would abide my single law, this race would be doing great! Doesn’t take much teaching to your kids either, beats going to a Church or a Mosque or something to talk to statues and stuff.
      Where is the religious part? Someone explain? I just realised that I have a religion! haha

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Duke-Onkled/100003387404390 Duke Onkled

    Her stubbornness offends me, I should sue her to have her eliminated. But considering that’s impossible, I’ll have her deported to my fair nation to execute a publice beheading of this fuckin’ wich bitch.

    • Andrew

       So you live in Iran?

  • Purplegnome

    OMG!  i cannot believe these dumb fucks have  actually learned how to switch on a magic spirit box and type on the keyboard!  listen, if you cant play nicely, we wont allow you to keep a god.

  • Ryskin1337

    Leave it to “good christians” to show “love”. 

  • http://twitter.com/maleger BB

    Do these people not see the irony in using hate and intimidation in the name of  religion?

  • Whathehell

    That is fucking crazy. Those kind of things would never happen in Europe. :O

  • musiciangirl591

    i don’t really like atheists, sorry for all the atheists out there, (i’m Catholic), but this crosses the line way too far, i would never even think about doing something like that

    • Joey Tranchina

      “i don’t really like atheists, sorry for all the atheists out there, (i’m Catholic), but this crosses the line way too far, i would never even think about doing something like that…”

      Try this.  How does this sound: I don’t really like Catholics, sorry for all the Catholics out there, (i’m s Jew and you ignorant bigots have been murdering my people in the loving name of your ‘Prince of Peace” for 2000 years), but this crosses the line way too far, i would never even think about doing something like that…

      Really, your religion tells you to dislike entire classes of people and you still buy that in 2012.  That is pathetic.  That’s almost as creepy as the cowards who posted the above comments because they fear the separation of Church & State… so the state can’t continue to tell them that the fantasies they proclaim are the only accepted nonsense American society allows.  This all sounds neither very Christian nor American to me.

    • UnionJackJamesBond

      Wow, sorry but you sound like a word I won’t use (I don’t like to swear, and God doesn’t like it either. How come no one else gets that?). I have absoulutely no problem with atheists, I have a problem with people that try and force their religion on me and make stupid, WAY overly generalized statements about my faith, me, and other believers in my faith. You don’t like what I believe, that’s fine, but don’t force what you believe in on me (keep in mind that I too am Christian). I believe that religion should be taught as a class in school. In fact, I believe that ALL religions should be taught as a class. All humans have the right to freedom of belief and religion, but if you never get the chance to LEARN about a religion, how can you actually take advantage of that right? You know, God gave us free will for a reason; so we could make our own choices and so that we could have a REAL relationship with him if we decided we wanted to. Therefore, I support teaching all religions so that people can decide whether they want to be Christian, Muslim, Catholic, Jewish, Agnostic, Atheist, and anything else in between (so long as it doesn’t conflict with the values of our society. Sorry polygamists, that means you, but homosexuals and bisexuals are fine to get married.)

  • Ravenous7835

    religion was made to make people feel better about an inevitable death, to give themselves purpose and importance. sad little self delusions that sane minded people are forced to stomach. God, allah, Horus, krshna, and Sheeva. are all about as real as the chuppacabra, or big foot. Some people think they are real but no one can find a living breathing specimen or even a damn video. you have a better chance of finding aliens or disproving e=mc2 then finding proof of an omnipotent being that “loves you” because thats what a book said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alexander-Cardosa/100000081228385 Alexander Cardosa

    Religion just another mental decease we need to medicate for. Up there with borderline personality disorder. One is sad and you feel for the people who have it, the other is to be crushed at every turn because it can turn into some nasty sociopathic behavior. Can you tell which one is which. 

    I solute this girl and her family.

  • http://illusionofpower.com/ Illusion of Power

    Religion = Mental Slavery

  • Cattyhottail

    I suppose their invisable friend is telling them to be cruel and harrass this youg lady who has rights too. But I do not agree with her sueing the school, she should be tolerent of other people’s beleifs also, as should those vicious people.

  • UnionJackJamesBond

    Okay, well two think I should talk about that are really erking me. I would make this post a reply to someone, unfortunately there are more than one person it would be a reply too. I notice something here among the “religious” people and the”atheist” people. You all like to make bold statements about religion (ex. many atheists have called religious people crazy, and their god’s make-believe) and also the religious people have said many of the same things in reply (like atheists are crazy or evil|). I myself am a Christian, like I said before, but it truly is a shame no one else pointed out what I am going to point out. Just about everyone here has tried to “prove a point”, but you have done it with inductive reasoning. You took a few examples and made some sort of “rule” or “truth” about religion or atheism. Sorry, but that doesn’t work. If you can’t make a statement from DEDUCTIVE REASONING (ie. ACTUAL FACTS) then you shouldn’t bother posting on here because what you said was just a waste of space and a “freeminded” persons time (by the way, being atheist doesn’t mean your freeminded. Being freeminded means your freeminded, please come to terms with that and stop using your inductive reasoning to try and prove that. It simply won’t work.)

    Anyways, the second thing was this; Many atheists have claimed that the majority (or many, depending on which atheist you ask) of wars were started over religion. I can only see the crusades, everywhere else has been land greed, resources greed, racism, politics, etc., etc. Even the wars in the Middle East are over politics, resources, and power. Stop using this pathetic argument as an argument (and especially proof!) if it is unsound and, for the most part, baseless. Here are just a few examples of non-religious wars; WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, The Opium War (not a full on war, but certainly had battles) American Civil War, War of 1812 (Between USA and Canada). Could you name me some wars that were ONLY because of religion?(Crusades don’t count because they have been beaten around so much.)

  • dmaurer

    I’m curious about something .. is it really so Christ like of those who want this girl dead or harmed? Seriously? I’m finding this so disturbing its not funny. I’m also curious when it became alright to judge others? last time I checked the bible it states, in the Ten Commandments no less, Judge not lest ye be judged by the same measure with which you judge. Furthermore, the Constitution allows EVERYONE the right to worship freely as their conscience dictates. That does not mean ONLY Christians. It means everyone

  • Paul Panza

    God is a myth spread by ignorant believers who are also sinners by their own definition. How many sinners can you believe?

    • UnionJackJamesBond

      And here we go again. Like I posted not to long ago, use deductive reasoning in your statements. Give us the complete, factual, 100% undeniable evidence that God does not exist, then you may say that without looking like an ignorant bigot with little to no understanding of the concept of the religion v.s. no religion argument.

      PS. In Christianity, one of our main goals is to be as “Christ-like” as possible, meaning without sin. The disciples were the people that came closest to this, and there are a couple hundred thousand people who have met the true successors of the disciples. Notice, I don’t say descendents because the disciples never married or had kids after the joined with Jesus, or they were not supposed to at least. These successors exist because the disciples spread the word of God, and therefore more disciples came to be.

  • Wishfultova

    This is America folks….separation of church and state…Been that way forever…If you went to school you’d know that

    • UnionJackJamesBond

      Also, don’t forget the seperation of Whites and Blacks. The Constitution was SUPPOSED to make it that way forever (or at least make them property). I believe in keeping Church VALUES and the state together, provided those values do not harm other people’s rights, for example I don’t care if your gay or straight, whatever a king does in his castle is his business, but just make sure it stays IN the castle. But a lot of values that religious groups hold can actually be quite positive for the society as a whole, and if we based our social values more off of relgious ones, perhaps our society would be better too. I give an example; pretty much every political ideology to date has revolved around (or at least influenced by) one EXTREMELY negative value; Serve yourself, or to the layman, look out for number 1. A much better value, which many religions are SUPPOSED to follow, is to serve each other. Now, to show that most political groups have the “serve yourself” mentality, consider this; During the Russian revolution, who revolted? All the peasants that had suffered under the Tzar and interim government. Why did they revolt? Because each INDIVIDUAL was ticked off at the government. If it had anything to do with looking out for other people, why haven’t we heard of any nobles fighting joining the fight? Also, Fascism and democracy should easily speak for themselves. So I think we have a huge moral crisis that we need to fix and we need to fix soon.

  • Lmnop_nis

    What I despise most as an atheist is when other atheists or people of pagan faiths celebrate Christmas. Christmas is a Christian holiday. If you’re pagan, then celebrate winter solstice. If you’re atheist, make up your own freaking holiday. I simply don’t celebrate that time of year. I just get annoyed when I can’t go to the grocery store on December 25th.

  • Samurai Foot

     Eric Rosa Stole that line from Dane Cooke. As if being Cristian was bad enough.

  • Purplegnome

    and what of Gnostics?  the stands being taken here are “either you faithfully follow an organised religion, or you are an athiest that folllows facts and logic”; but the truth is many enlightened people are able to walk a spiritual  path without the need for the politics of dogma.  All i can say is “if the free speech of a harmless girl so threatens your belief system that you cannot tolerate her existence, then you can’t have much faith”.