Joe Rogan & Rosie O’Donnell Talk 9/11 Conspiracy Theory

Joe Rogan isn’t afraid to get down to the bottom of things on his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience. Watch as he and Rosie discuss a conspiracy theory surrounding the fall of Tower 7 on September 11, 2001.

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  • Andrew

    I’m apparently not smart enough to know who to believe regarding whether the Twin Towers were brought down by the planes or not (yeah, I’ve heard the arguments from both sides), but I don’t believe Building 7 was for a minute.  I think it was pulled.

    Either way, I’m much more interested in the grand conspiracy that’s been going on SINCE 9/11/01.

    • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      No need to take anyones pespective at face value.  Examining the evidence for oneself is all that is required.  A cursory awareness of the laws of physics unmasks the official conspiracy theory as nothing but a whitewash.  Thanks for commenting.  Let me know what you think having researched the good work of the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.  Best wishes.

      • Br0wnb3rry

        Why does ae911truth not take legal action against NIST? Look at the real evidence and not just someone saying what it looks like. Search Dr Judy Wood and see how far down the rabbit hole you can get.

        • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

          NIST is protected by the government, so seeking legal action is no easy charge.  Also Judy Wood is a shill who presents theories with zero evidence supporting them.  Fitting the behavior of a disinformationist.  Don’t take my word for it.  http://www.ae911truth.org/news-section/41-articles/505-ae911truth-faq-6-whats-your-assessment-of-the-directed-energy-weapon-dew-hypothesis.html

    • Jin The Ninja

      exactly.

    • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      I’m curious though.  Being that you are more interested in the “grand conspiracy that’s been going on since 9/11/01″, are you not then concerned with exposing arguably the inception event?  The way I see it, the sooner we expose the lies of 9/11 the sooner we can get the average American to understand the insidious plans that have unfolded ever since in the proper context, and the sooner we will be able to cleanse and move forward from all of the manipulation of a once clear vision.  To enable life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all people. 
      I see them as indistinguishable. (9/11 and the Grand Conspiracy in play since) Cause and Effect.  9/11 is a microcosm of all of the tactics of sophistry, manipulation and occulting that we have been subjected to since the dawn of history. It also gives rise to the greatest attributes of the human spirit in the face of tyranny.The persistent memory afforded by technology questions the integrity of an entire species to seek justice.  Perhaps an entrance/exit exam of our lives and age,  depending on how you look at it.  Many here seem to avoid the ramifications of this knowledge and prefer to make snide retorts, & seek comfort from the sharp reflections of their own cognitive dissonance in the light of this spiritual challenge.  Many have already embraced this spiritual mandate and are active in spreading this knowledge far and wide with resolute courage.  To those individuals who have offered support to the movement and are actively involved still I say Thank You and Much Respect.I’ve said it before and I will say it again.  The towers are the Talisman of our times (especially building 7) , they can serve either as a force of redemption or desecration.  The choice is in the consciousness and actions of everyone who is brought to this reckoning.All intellectual masturbation aside, the battle lines have been drawn.I hope everyone can agree, regardless of the myopic focus on whatever belief system gives us ‘comfort’, that 9/11 was an attack against all of mankind and of our ultimate cosmic destiny.  It’s overarching design continues to play out and distort and open simultaneously all of our reality tunnels.Yes we are not perfect, yes we have horrendous karma to account for, and yes we can choose to look past this opportunity as we doubt any hope for a real awakening, slowly boiling away one degree at a time.  We also can choose to make the most of this opportunity, understand death is inevitable and it is better to fight as a man/woman than to die as a slave.  The choice is ours.  Here come the seething trolls (shills)  triggered like sentinels in the matrix wishing to stamp out any challenges to status q and to relieve the itching splinters lodged in their minds.No I’m not saying anyone who has honest doubts fits this description, but yes, there are shills who seek to avoid this conversation at all costs and delight in disruption for unimaginably petty reasons.  They know who they are, and anyone paying attention does as well.  Stepping of the soap box now.  Thanks for posting.

      • Bunnyofthekungfu

        Well done, man. Thank you for writing that. 

        • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

          Thank you Brother.

      • Andrew

        I don’t consider myself an actual part of the 9/11 Truth movement (unless you include people who don’t swallow the government’s explanation whole but admit they don’t know what happened), but I generally support what you guys are trying to do.  Finding out what actually happened on that day is important, but I don’t agree that it is the fulcrum upon which all else turns.  I mentioned the conspiracy since 9/11, but really I believe the conspiracy began long, long before that day.

        You mention the matrix…  The conspiracy I’m most interested in is the one we’re all involved in, even you and me, right now.  Some of us were born into deeper darkness than others, and must struggle to find light for ourselves rather than bring light to others.  And some must try to shine light upon the rest of the landscape in which 9/11 is merely one landmark.

        Keep fighting for light.

        • Jin The Ninja

          “The conspiracy I’m most interested in is the one we’re all involved in,
          even you and me, right now.  Some of us were born into deeper darkness
          than others, and must struggle to find light for ourselves rather than
          bring light to others.  And some must try to shine light upon the rest
          of the landscape in which 9/11 is merely one landmark.”

          copy and pasted because dude, that was so good:)!

          x2. (if you don’t mind).

          • Cat out of Bag

            I agree. I have always felt that the greatest conspiracy, for a lack of a better word, is spiritual. This world is a trap. I can not be alone in thinking this. The world is here to blind you to what you really are. I know it sounds crazy, but if it’s true………Holy Fuck…..

          • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Sounds gnostic to me.  Have you guys heard of the “Master Game” by Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock?  It gives a fascinating account of the history and beliefs of the “heretical” gnostics and their connection to Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism and the French and American Revolutions.  Definitely fascinating material.  

            They believed our bodies were prisons for our souls and that only through gnosis could the path to liberation begin.  

            I think of 9/11 as a wake up call for many to not sleep through this experience and to question the various means used to lull us to sleep/slavery.

            The symbolic connections to the destruction of the temple is another aspect of 9/11 that is fascinating.  A mega ritual with designs to reinstill a dark reign, perhaps backfiring and enabling it’s opposite, mass liberation.  

          • Andrew

            Thanks!  I don’t usually let my literary side out in comments sections or message boards, but this time it seemed the best way to address Mr. Wiltshire’s thoughts.

        • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

          Thank you Andrew.  You as well.  

      • Calypso_1

        The Tower is not the only card in the Deck.  Perhaps if you were to choose less invective declarations of spiritual and political mandate, forcing others into your personal vision of  an ‘entrance/exit exam of our lives and age’ you might find erstwhile adversaries are indeed allies; those whose own Talismans are not bound to the ruins of Babylon and whose reality tunnels open upon vistas that have escaped your present calculus. 

        • Jin The Ninja

          the mage: the transformer, i have always felt is far more interesting than the tower, whose destruction is not mutable, wherein the mage alchemizes reality to his own will. or even the fool whose fate is ruled by luck , is far safer on his mountain toll road than than a king ruling from his fortress. or perhaps even the devil whose presence denotes materiality which by it`s very nature can be altered. the tower card is a bound reality, closed in by immanent doom. a sigil of permeneance through end. i think it is a very apt metaphor you used, both metaphysically and literarily.

        • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

          Again, I’ve never assumed it was the only “card in the deck”.  You have a habit of framing my words and intentions to suit your personal expectations and biases.   Also if by “invective” you mean my persisting in sharing information with people, rousing them as the good old gadfly of Athens would have, then I will just say, “by any memes necessary”.  Also do you have a particular post that so incenses you? Or is this another in a long line of complaints that I receive because I dare express an opinion that doesn’t reflect your own?  Sorry, I am mostly cordial, I only respond in kind to those who presume to be above the fray whilst criticizing those immersed in the battle with “clever” little quips about how everything/everyone “should” be or act from their perspective.  People can do whatever they want about 9/11.  I only share information and my heartfelt desire that they take responsibility to change things.  If that bothers you, well let’s just say, it say’s more about you than you might realize.  Until we have justice, until we have critical mass, I won’t be content to snipe from the sidelines with pious presumption.

          Tell me does your vista view derive from an actual ivory tower, or simply an imagined one?

  • Mamagriff50

    We know 911 was an inside job…But whats sad here is with all the proof that exists we still have non-believers.

  • nom nom

    Can’t see this video in my country. Maybe I can find it on Megaupload?

    • JaceD

      Youtube it bro (unless you’ve already watched it) I had the same problem.

      • Dansendvuurpaard

        i cannot watch it either here in holland..youtube is not my friend and the new policy of google will not make it better..joe rogan is one of my heroes ,can someone put this video on vimeo?  i was in newyork about three weeks after 9/11..smoke was still coming out the ground..no explanation anywhere on tv about that

  • Yer Dad

    Another school of thought thinks the grand conspiracy began with 11/22/63 and runs through
    Watergate, Irancontra and on up to 9/11.

    so many of the same players through all of it.

    • MoralDrift

      i think this is the more correct view…although heh it may go back farther than that

      • Jin The Ninja

        i think it is far more vast, more insidious, far-ranging and much older, so yes i agree!

        • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

          I am in agreement.  I think 9/11 provides us with a rare opportunity to expose those behind the scenes once and for all.  If we seize the moment that is.  It is by no means the centering of my entire philosophical search in this life, though this is presumed for some reason by those hear most likely tired of hearing about this call to arms…

          I guess if there house was on fire they wouldn’t want to be bothered too much with the call to awaken, but regardless, glad we can agree it’s part of a much larger conspiracy that has culminated in an opportunity for revelation, whether it be revealing the truth about the running of our affairs, or apocalypse , is up to everyone alive on mothership Earth right about now.

          Especially those with internet access, free time, and the willingness to engage and educate those on the fence.  Shaping the dialog online to enable emboldened exchange offline is happening, I see it every time I sample the awareness of strangers.  It’s most definitely in the air.

          Let’s not be “know it all” arm chair revolutionaries.
          The writing is on the wall.

          NDAAACTA
          SOPA

          We are on the same team, getting overly concerned with semantical quibbles contrasting our favored thought systems is a wasteful indulgence.  Imagine what is possible if we work together.  

          We agree on much more than we disagree it appears. 
          How about a truce and a pact to not only seek answers but enact them?Am I the only dreamer here?

          We need volunteers for many causes, it’s not so difficult to make a real impact in your respective neck of the woods.

          • Jin The Ninja

            I’ll accept a ceasefire, on the terms that it will not inhibit erudite  analysis of any number of topics. I do agree that ideological back and forth is ill-served and a waste of time and space on the boards, and makes both of us appear far more reactionary and inflammatory than i think you are, and i know i am. We do seem to share some common ground, and i do appreciate that- just as i had mentioned on the buddhist article you posted.

            pax et veritas

            jin.

          • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Sounds good to me. 
            Pax et Veritas indeed.

          • Andrew

            Good going, both of you!

          • Jin The Ninja

             camron- re read what you wrote, let’s just avoid exchanges and be civil if we interact. i am fine with that, as i said below.

  • Rooti

    Rosie had bigger balls that Rogan!

    • Jin The Ninja

      one of the mainstream queer figures i actually like, because she doesn’t pull any punches.

      and yes, her “balls” are big and brass, as they say.

  • Br0wnb3rry

    Dr Judy Wood

    • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      Woods is a Shill. She has already been shot down in court for presenting claims that are not based in reality.  If you are interested in 9/11 Truth I would stick with the real experts at Ae911truth.org and avoid the shills like Woods and Fetzer.  

  • Thoughts

    Wow. This is quite the meeting of the minds. Its great to see that two of the greatest public intellectuals of our generation are confronting these complicated issues with so much sophistication and erudition. Of course, this certainly doesn’t look like two confused overgrown ten-year-olds. 

  • college student

    Put that much jet fuel on fire, and you’re going to melt the steel. How much steel was above the hot and soften steel? Thousands of tons. It makes sense. I don’t get how the way it collapse is a conspiracy theory.

    • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

      “college student”  what is the burning point of steel?  What is the maximum burning point of kerosene?   Implosion is more accurate terminology, if you really want to know make the time to study the presentations put together by the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.  Also there are many examples of the impossibility of steel framed skyscrapers imploding through the path of greatest resistance due to kerosene fed fires.  Watch and report back please.

      • http://wearechangeatlanta.com/ Camron Wiltshire

        I should say “melting point” instead of “burning point”.  

    • Calypso_1

      Does your college offer courses in metallurgy?

  • http://nakeddissidence.wordpress.com/ pointax

    The funny thing is that in america, the 9/11 stuff is more mainstream than people think. People are not that stupid. Even the 9/11 commission said it was made to fail. There are WAY too may anomalies in the 9/11 report. People won’t talk about it because the lable “truther” is a way to discredit, and believe you me it works. Rosie was laughed out of Hollywood for a long time because of her beliefs. The problem is that NO ONE IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL ALLOW AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9/11. There are alot of people that if the truth were to come out, they would be lynched. Unfortunately, these people are VERY rich and powerful, and there will be no way of the truth coming to light